RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is SPAMDOMAINS As Great As I Think It Is?

2003-07-17 Thread Markus Gufler
> Is there any reason I wouldn't want to have a > lot of domains on my SpamDomains.txt list? Would that add > too much load to the system? Am I just reading too much into > the powerfullness of this test? Don't forget people that has running their own few mailboxes as one of multiple virtual

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is SPAMDOMAINS As Great As I Think ItIs?

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
When I first heard about the SPAMDOMAINS test and was starting to get a grasp of how it worked, I was thinking that its main purpose was to pay special attention to very common and well-known domains which are also commonly used as the sender during the SMTP conversation. Domain names like YAHOO.

[Declude.JunkMail] Is SPAMDOMAINS As Great As I Think It Is?

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, I was looking for some clarification. When I first heard about the SPAMDOMAINS test and was starting to get a grasp of how it worked, I was thinking that its main purpose was to pay special attention to very common and well-known domains which are also commonly used as the sender durin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS?

2003-07-17 Thread David Stavert
Yes indeed. Just changed it. All fixed. > The problem here is with your HOP/IPBYPASS settings: Thanks David Stavert --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS?

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
I had this mail fail both SPAMDOMAINS and HELOBOGUS. The message is an OK message the syslog shows the message actually arriving from a hotmail server. Should this not have been OK or do I have something wrong? The problem here is with your HOP/IPBYPASS settings: Received: from hotmail.com [65.54

[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS?

2003-07-17 Thread David Stavert
Scott I had this mail fail both SPAMDOMAINS and HELOBOGUS. The message is an OK message the syslog shows the message actually arriving from a hotmail server. Should this not have been OK or do I have something wrong? Received: from hotmail.com [65.54.169.8] by mx2.netraprise.com with ESMTP (SMTPD

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Title: Message Thanks Denny.. Removal went well and everything is back to normal.. Good to know that at least someone had gone through the same thing.. hahaha -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denny JodeitSent: Thursday, July 1

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] re: How does this fail routing

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
It origionates in china and is delivered directly to our server Received: from ns1.ssc-isp.net [12.9.25.242] by standardabrasives.com (SMTPD32-7.15) id A3EC467012A; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:11:40 -0700 Received: from public.zz.ha.cn ([218.29.0.198]) by ns1.ssc-isp.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Nicely darn, Karl. Please do post your perl script to the list. If you'd rather send it directly to interested parties, please include me in that list. I'm just starting in on perl and VB Script, because (sigh) I have indeed been using find.exe as a crutch. For example, I call this script all t

[Declude.JunkMail] re: How does this fail routing

2003-07-17 Thread Kevin Bilbee
It origionates in china and is delivered directly to our server Received: from ns1.ssc-isp.net [12.9.25.242] by standardabrasives.com (SMTPD32-7.15) id A3EC467012A; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:11:40 -0700 Received: from public.zz.ha.cn ([218.29.0.198]) by ns1.ssc-isp.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMT

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Regarding Obfuscation

2003-07-17 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I received an emial to day using the tag to Obfuscate the mesage. It looked like this Message about They will continue to come up with ways to block content filters. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tandem Group > Sent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS: No Reverse DNS or ReverseDNS Lookup Times Out

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
If I am using the SPAMDOMAINS test what happens when it does a reverse DNS lookup and it times out? Does the e-mail message pass or fail the SPAMDOMAINS test? It will automatically pass the SPAMDOMAINS test. Also, what happens when it does a reverse DNS lookup and there is no reverse DNS entry?

[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMDOMAINS: No Reverse DNS or Reverse DNS Lookup Times Out

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, If I am using the SPAMDOMAINS test what happens when it does a reverse DNS lookup and it times out? Does the e-mail message pass or fail the SPAMDOMAINS test? Also, what happens when it does a reverse DNS lookup and there is no reverse DNS entry? Is that even possible for it to not ha

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Matt Robertson
Jeff Maze wrote: >Version 6 works just fine for what we use it for and don't >need to spend the $1500 Who told you US$1500? That's the full price. Ipswitch charges US$495 for the upgrade if you buy it directly from them. I went to CDW and got mine for US$349. --

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Cris Porter
Me too! Cris Porter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of VanTech.Net Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question Karl, Please do so, I would be interested in it! Aaron Cav

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Omar K.
Still, I thought it was very unprofessional of ipswitch to leave its customers with such an ultimatum. I personally have kept the patch (security priority #1, regardless) and have learned to use the imail admin with the GUI handicap (its doable). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Jose, > Being a 2 months-old user of JunkMail I'm trying to find out "best > practices" for dealing with spam. Sorry in advanced if this topic > has been to death, but I couldn't find any helpful threads on the archives. > Anyhow, I'm using the following rules but a TON of spam still making it

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, Jose, et.al. I believe for someone to take advantage of this exploit they have to have physical access to your server. IPSwitch will never release a patch for IMail for this. So if you want to get access to your GUI back, your choice is either to uninstall Microsoft's patch Q328310 or to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blacklists

2003-07-17 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, Rob, > The manual is pretty clear about how to setup IP blacklists, but it doesn't > specifically say what IP's you are blacklisting. Is this the source IP of > the message, or the mailserver it was sent from / mailserver it hopped > through? I've always worked under the assumption that i

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread VanTech.Net
Karl, Please do so, I would be interested in it! Aaron Caviglia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices que

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread JR Tatum
Looks like a script we would like to use Karl, thanks for the offer to share. Thank You, JR Tatum, President Performance Dimensions, Inc. (336) 774-1849 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.triadnetwork.com * This message and any incl

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Denny Jodeit
Yes, the tech installed the whole boat-everything Microsoft had to offer, then I uninstalled Q328310 only and the problem was gone. I had also had the problem in Dec 2002 when Q328310 was first released, so I knew where to look. - Original Message - From: Scott MacLean

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Jose Gosende
Karl -- I would be very interested in using your PERL script. Can you send it to me? Thanks, Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declu

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Denny Jodeit
I got the same message. Everything works. Good Luck, but I'm confident you'll be fine. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Maze - Hostmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
> If you remove Critical Update # Q328310, the problem goes away. This does > work, I have experienced it. Yea, and expose my server's security to fix some GUI issue? The only security issue with Q328310 is if you already have security problems. Specifically, someone needs physical access to th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Scott MacLean
Did you install Q328310, then install SP4, then uninstall Q328310 and it fixed it? At 10:33 AM 7/17/2003, Denny Jodeit wrote: I did not uninstall SP4, just Critical Update Q328310 and it fixed the problem. - Original Message - From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
Not to bash Scott, who is the freaking GOD of SMTP traffic.. but EEWWW.. yuck. FIND will work, but I'd have to wash my hands afterwards. My computer is supposed to do my work FOR me, on a daily basis, and mail me my checks at home ! ( I wish ! )... Just write up a quick PERL/WSH/Shell script to pa

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
That's true.. Version 6 works just fine for what we use it for and don't need to spend the $1500 it'll take to upgrade to version 8 (running version 6 unlimited). I guess that's just business though.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Yea, and expose my server's security to fix some GUI issue? > Sounds like Ipswitch should provide a maintenance release for v6.0 users > to eradicate this problem. Uh, trying reading through the many posts in the archives on the Imail forum. This is the Declude JunkMail list. The pros and cons h

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Thanks for all the replies.. I went to uninstall it and it came up saying that "some or all of the following may not work after uninstall" and gave a list of five things including the network adapter. Time for a back up and hope for a quick reinstall if it crashes hard. hahaha -Original Mes

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jose Gosende
Yea, and expose my server's security to fix some GUI issue? Sounds like Ipswitch should provide a maintenance release for v6.0 users to eradicate this problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Denny Jodeit Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:27 AM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Denny Jodeit
If you remove Critical Update # Q328310, the problem goes away. This does work, I have experienced it. Ipswitch issued a patch for this problem for versions 7.x and above, but stated they will never issue one for Ver. 6. This is per Ipswitch KB article IM-20021218-DM01 HTH, Denny - Original M

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Denny Jodeit
I did not uninstall SP4, just Critical Update Q328310 and it fixed the problem. - Original Message - From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update > > > W

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Because the new person read there was an security update and ran Windows Update and downloaded and installed everything. I found the link in Ipswich's web site. It has something to do with Q328310 and version 6.06 and 7.07 of Imail. Update iMail to 7.15 and all is well. BUT since we're running v

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
How can I determine the amount of caught/received emails with JunkMail? It would take me an eternity to go through each log file. There are several ways that you can do this. For example, you can do a directory of the \IMail\spool\spam directory, where the held E-mails are. To find out how man

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Omar K.
Should have all of what you need to know: http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20021218-DM01.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze - Hostmaster Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Keith Purtell
In my view, the best thing to do is examine spam that got through. When you find a pattern in several messages, use that info to tweak Declude. I've been tweaking ours for months, to the point that each day I find less than 30 messages in our hold box. First I look through those for any legitima

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Scott MacLean
Q328310 At 10:05 AM 7/17/2003, Jeff Maze - Hostmaster wrote: Hello,   Was wondering if anyone knew what the Microsoft update it was that caused the display of the IMail manager to be shifted and un-readable.   Dang new people installed it and now I can't edit any of the entries, etc.   Thanks.. Je

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
Was wondering if anyone knew what the Microsoft update it was that caused the display of the IMail manager to be shifted and un-readable. Dang new people installed it and now I can't edit any of the entries, etc. It's probably the Windows 2000 SP4 that was installed. It includes t

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jose Gosende
wow, and I thought it was a terminal services issue. I've had this problem for quite some time and would love to hear a workaround. BTW, how do you know a Windows update caused this problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Maze - Hostmast

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail v6 and Windows Update

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Hello, Was wondering if anyone knew what the Microsoft update it was that caused the display of the IMail manager to be shifted and un-readable. Dang new people installed it and now I can't edit any of the entries, etc. Thanks.. Jeff --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruse

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Jose Gosende
How can I determine the amount of caught/received emails with JunkMail? It would take me an eternity to go through each log file. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
Being a 2 months-old user of JunkMail I'm trying to find out "best practices" for dealing with spam. Sorry in advanced if this topic has been to death, but I couldn't find any helpful threads on the archives. Anyhow, I'm using the following rules but a TON of spam still making it through: WEIGHT10

[Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-17 Thread Jose Gosende
All, Being a 2 months-old user of JunkMail I'm trying to find out "best practices" for dealing with spam. Sorry in advanced if this topic has been to death, but I couldn't find any helpful threads on the archives. Anyhow, I'm using the following rules but a TON of spam still making it through: WEI

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blacklists

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
The manual is pretty clear about how to setup IP blacklists, but it doesn't specifically say what IP's you are blacklisting. Is this the source IP of the message, or the mailserver it was sent from / mailserver it hopped through? The IP blacklists will be run on the same IP(s) that the IP-based s

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Blacklists

2003-07-17 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Add the following line to your global.cfg file: BLACKLISTIP ipfile x:\IMail\Declude\ipfile.txt x 20 (edit the x:\IMail\Declude to the location of your IMail directory location) And then put the attached file into your Declude directory.. I've built this list over the last

[Declude.JunkMail] IP Blacklists

2003-07-17 Thread Rob Salmond
The manual is pretty clear about how to setup IP blacklists, but it doesn't specifically say what IP's you are blacklisting. Is this the source IP of the message, or the mailserver it was sent from / mailserver it hopped through? Rob Salmond Ontario Die Company (519)-576-8950 ext. 132 --- [This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] XOUTHEADER shows up in the body

2003-07-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
When I use an XOUTHEADER or turn XSENDER ON, it places the text at the end of the body, not in the header. Has anyone seen this before? What is the last header that is in the E-mail headers? What is the first header in the E-mail body? Those headers should provide some clues.