[Declude.JunkMail] Befuddled: Test not logged!

2004-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Scott:

I know you are busy 
with viruses - but I can't figure THIS one out. I have thousands of emails 
in the log file, where SORBS-DUHL is discovered, logged and treated properly. 
But at least this ONE got through and I have no explanation.

Firstlet's 
look at a mail 10 minutes later, to the SAME person, that was handled properly. 
It detected SORBS-DUHL (in addition to SORBS), added it to the log, and then 
this test name was filtered in "DYNAMIC-IP" and added 6 to the 
weight:

03/19/2004 08:33:59 Qf6be2b780148067f WEIGHTFILTER:2 DYNAMIC-IP:6 OPEN-RELAY:5 . Total 
weight = 13.03/19/2004 08:34:00 Qf6be2b780148067f Deleting spam from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
03/19/2004 08:34:00 Qf6be2b780148067f Subject: Hotel and Meal expenses for 
breakdowns far from home 03/19/2004 08:34:00 Qf6be2b780148067f From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 200.164.142.10 ID: 03/19/2004 08:34:00 Qf6be2b780148067f Tests failed 
[weight=13]: DSBLSINGLE=WARN NJABL=WARN NJABLDYNA=LOG NJABLPROXIES=DELETE SORBS=WARN SORBS-DUHL=LOG IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 
NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE WEIGHTFILTER=WARN DYNAMIC-IP=IGNORE OPEN-RELAY=IGNORE 
WEIGHT10=BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST 
The CONFIG files 
involved define:

[global.cfg]
SORBSip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net*...
SORBS-DUHLip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net127.0.0.1000
...
SPAMDOMAINS 
spamdomainsD:\IMail\Declude\SpamDomains.txtx40WEIGHTFILTERfilterD:\IMail\Declude\WeightFilter.txtx00DYNAMIC-IPfilterD:\IMail\Declude\DUHLfilter.txtx60OPEN-RELAYfilterD:\IMail\Declude\RELAYSfilter.txtx60MULTI-RELAYfilterD:\IMail\Declude\MULTIRELAYSfilter.txtx60FORMMAILfilterD:\IMail\Declude\WEBfilter.txtx80
[$default$.junkmail] 
(global)
SORBSWARNX-RBL-Warning: Suspected SPAM. 
%WARNING%...
SORBS-DUHLLOG

[DUHLfilter.txt]
SKIPIFWEIGHT20TESTSFAILED0CONTAINSNJABLDULTESTSFAILED0CONTAINSNJABLDYNATESTSFAILED0CONTAINSAHBLDYNATESTSFAILED0CONTAINSSORBS-DUHL
Now I try to 
understand THIS email, only a few minutes earlier. 
a) It came 
from an IP that returns 127.0.0.10 (for DUHL):
nslookup 
result:Query: 104.96.47.69.dnsbl.sorbs.netAddress: 
127.0.0.10
b) the header clearly shows, that Declude did 
get the proper return code from SORBS (Dynamic IP) text
Received: 
from COMPAC [69.47.96.104] by hm-software.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id 
A50B5B900020; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:26:35 -0500Received: from COMPAC 
[192.168.1.101] by maranello.cc with SMTP; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:26:32 
-0500Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: 
"Elizabeth Letterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Lower 
your m ortgage today!Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:26:32 
-0500MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/html; 
charset="ISO-8859-1"X-Priority: 3X-Mailer: yPHPReturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]XML-Context: 
aGFyYWxkQG1hcmFuZWxsby5jYw==X-RBL-Warning: Suspected SPAM. "Blocked 
- see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.47.96.104"X-RBL-Warning: Suspected SPAM. "Dynamic IP Address 
See: http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=69.47.96.104"X-Declude: 
Version 1.78i27; Df50b5b900020628c.SMD from d47-69-104-96.try.wideopenwest.com 
[69.47.96.104]X-Declude: Triggered SPAMCOP 
[4]X-Countries: UNITED 
STATES-destinationReturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-RCPT-TO: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Status: 
UX-UIDL: 378205927
c) Yet- 
Declude never logs SORBS-DUHL!?
03/19/2004 
08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c SPAMCOP:7 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 . Total weight = 
4.03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c Subject: Loweryour 
mortgage today!03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP: 69.47.96.104 
ID: 03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c Tests failed [weight=4]: 
SPAMCOP=WARN SORBS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Befuddled: Test not logged!

2004-03-19 Thread R. Scott Perry

I know you are busy with viruses - but I can't figure THIS one out.  I 
have thousands of emails in the log file, where SORBS-DUHL is discovered, 
logged and treated properly. But at least this ONE got through and I have 
no explanation.
The issue here isn't that the test wasn't logged -- Declude JunkMail 
doesn't think that the E-mail failed the test at all.

SORBS  ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net   *
SORBS-DUHL ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net   127.0.0.10 0 0
c) Yet - Declude never logs SORBS-DUHL!?

03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c SPAMCOP:7 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-3 
.  Total weight = 4.
03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c Subject: Lower your  m ortgage today!
03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c From: 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 69.47.96.104 ID:
03/19/2004 08:26:38 Qf50b5b900020628c Tests failed [weight=4]: 
SPAMCOP=WARN SORBS=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE
In this case, the E-mail failed the SORBS test, but not the SORBS-DUHL 
test.  It does indeed appear that it should have failed the SORBS-DUHL 
test, given the current information, but it is possible that it wasn't 
listed correctly yesterday (which would explain what 
happened).  dnsbl.sorbs.net definitely did return *something* -- but what 
it returned is a mystery.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Frederick Samarelli
What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.

Is there a place to report it.

Fred
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[Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets translated and I
could do so also.  It would take a lot of extra time.  I copy the url out of
headers of spam that gets through and put it into my filter file.  These are
bothersome however.

Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as spam?  I think
it would be just spammers that do this.

thanks

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Where is this set in imail?  Is it antispam of imail as we do not use it.

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W.
Kitchener, ON
N2M 1L2
519-741-1222
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- Web accessible email with anti-spam\antivirus protection
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- Experienced website developers 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:
 
 (http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox
 
 
 This seems to work very well.  
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets 
 translated and I could do so also.  It would take a lot of 
 extra time.  I copy the url out of headers of spam that gets 
 through and put it into my filter file. These are bothersome however.
 
 Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as 
 spam?  I think it would be just spammers that do this.
 
 thanks
 
 Harry Vanderzand 
 inTown Internet  Computer Services 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Jason
It is a rule.  They are located in a rules.ima (inbound rules file).
The rules.ima file gets placed in the top directory of the domain that
you want to use it on.  There is lots of data about this in the
knowledge base on Imails web site.


Regards,


Jason


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Vanderzand
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers


Where is this set in imail?  Is it antispam of imail as we do not use
it.

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W.
Kitchener, ON
N2M 1L2
519-741-1222
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:
 
 (http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox
 
 
 This seems to work very well.
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets
 translated and I could do so also.  It would take a lot of 
 extra time.  I copy the url out of headers of spam that gets 
 through and put it into my filter file. These are bothersome however.
 
 Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as
 spam?  I think it would be just spammers that do this.
 
 thanks
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
I am not sure if my request here is being understood.

I would not want to mark all messages with an IP in the url as spam. Only
those messages that use %nnn%nnn%nnn etc.  When you view source of an html
message you can see this kind of coding. As in this case:
//205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/

We always do a view source and take the url out of the source and then
blacklist that, for those messages that were no caught by anti-spam at the
time.

I do not know what that process is called and have only ever seen it in
source code of certain spam e-mail

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W.
Kitchener, ON
N2M 1L2
519-741-1222
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- Web accessible email with anti-spam\antivirus protection
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:
 
 (http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox
 
 
 This seems to work very well.  
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets 
 translated and I could do so also.  It would take a lot of 
 extra time.  I copy the url out of headers of spam that gets 
 through and put it into my filter file. These are bothersome however.
 
 Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as 
 spam?  I think it would be just spammers that do this.
 
 thanks
 
 Harry Vanderzand 
 inTown Internet  Computer Services 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Jason
Well, let us ask the entire list if there are valid reasons that people
would send an IP in a URL.  I tested this for 2 months and didn't have a
single legitimate e-mail like this.  We did have people sending IP
addresses, but not as a url.  For example:  My server IP is
156.23.140.10.  Not one case had someone say  my website is
http://[insert ip here] 



Jason


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry
Vanderzand
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers


I am not sure if my request here is being understood.

I would not want to mark all messages with an IP in the url as spam.
Only those messages that use %nnn%nnn%nnn etc.  When you view source of
an html message you can see this kind of coding. As in this case:
//205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/

We always do a view source and take the url out of the source and then
blacklist that, for those messages that were no caught by anti-spam at
the time.

I do not know what that process is called and have only ever seen it in
source code of certain spam e-mail

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet  Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W.
Kitchener, ON
N2M 1L2
519-741-1222
Did you know we offer: 
- Province wide dial-up and high speed internet access 
- Web accessible email with anti-spam\antivirus protection
- Computer hardware sales and service
- Experienced website developers 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:
 
 (http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox
 
 
 This seems to work very well.
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets
 translated and I could do so also.  It would take a lot of 
 extra time.  I copy the url out of headers of spam that gets 
 through and put it into my filter file. These are bothersome however.
 
 Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as
 spam?  I think it would be just spammers that do this.
 
 thanks
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Frederick Samarelli
This is the offending header.

Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
 by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Point.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: American Family Deals
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Gladwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories  Shipping at NO Cost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary==_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected. [2-3-1800]
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613; [2-33-10800]
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426, weight 3)
[2-57-1c800]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[69.56.11.46]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
X-Note: Sent from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
([69.56.11.46]).
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.

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- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)



 What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.
 
 Is there a place to report it.

 It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
 but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find someone
 responsible that allowed the spam through.

 If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Matt




So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF
records. Not a surprise.

You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting
any points to those that pass.

Matt



Frederick Samarelli wrote:

  This is the offending header.

Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
 by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Point.com"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: American Family Deals
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Gladwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories  Shipping at NO Cost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959"
X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected. [2-3-1800]
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
"http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613" [2-33-10800]
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426, weight 3)
[2-57-1c800]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[69.56.11.46]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
X-Note: Sent from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
([69.56.11.46]).
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.

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- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


  
  

  What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.

Is there a place to report it.
  

It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find someone
responsible that allowed the spam through.

If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message



Makes perfect 
sense to me. Everyone, including ROKSO spammers, can benefit from 
implementing SPF defensively, resulting in a valid SPFPASS. And *their* 
doing so dilutes the incentive for antispammers to reward those who implement 
SPF defensively, which in turn dilutes SPF.

As noted in the 
last 2 weeks, current wisdom is to add points to those senders that trigger a 
SPFFAIL,and that rewarding a SPFPASS or SPFUNKNOWNwill reveal no 
joy.

Andrew 
8)

  
  -Original Message-From: Matt 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)So zombie spamers forge 
  Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF records. Not a 
  surprise.You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not 
  crediting any points to those that pass.MattFrederick 
  Samarelli wrote:
  This is the offending header.

Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
 by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Point.com"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: American Family Deals
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Gladwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories  Shipping at NO Cost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959"
X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected. [2-3-1800]
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
"http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613" [2-33-10800]
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426, weight 3)
[2-57-1c800]
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[69.56.11.46]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
X-Note: Sent from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
([69.56.11.46]).
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.

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From: "R. Scott Perry" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


  

  What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.

Is there a place to report it.
  It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find someone
responsible that allowed the spam through.

If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.

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RE: inSPAM:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in he aders

2004-03-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, assuming that you have Declude JunkMail Pro and thus text filtering
features available, yes.

See:

http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/

for the IPFilter tests which would give you a very good example to get you
started.

However, I think that:

a) You don't need to, because Declude is quietly de-obfuscating the
%-escaped text, so you could simply search for dotted-quad text.

b) If you want to add weight to emails that use the technique, because it's
the technique usage you find significant, then be conservative.  I'm not
able to name names, but I know that I've received email flyers and mailing
lists that used the %-escaped text correctly when the source server for
their images did not have a fully qualified domain name.

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Harry Vanderzand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: inSPAM:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in
headers



Let me re-iterate again

I would like to treat any mail where the source code of the mail is
disguising either text or the URL.  It is the act of disguising it in code
that I think we can use to trap.  Just because a URL is in the form of an IP
is not a valid reason to mark it as spam.  

What I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS ABOUT THE CODING OF THE SOURCE CODE IN
E-MAILS

Can it be trapped?

My apologies if I cannot explain it better




 
 
 Well, let us ask the entire list if there are valid reasons 
 that people would send an IP in a URL.  I tested this for 2 
 months and didn't have a single legitimate e-mail like this.  
 We did have people sending IP addresses, but not as a url.  
 For example:  My server IP is 156.23.140.10.  Not one case 
 had someone say  my website is
 http://[insert ip here] 
 
 
 
 Jason
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
 
 
 I am not sure if my request here is being understood.
 
 I would not want to mark all messages with an IP in the url 
 as spam. Only those messages that use %nnn%nnn%nnn etc.  When 
 you view source of an html message you can see this kind of 
 coding. As in this case: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/
 
 We always do a view source and take the url out of the source 
 and then blacklist that, for those messages that were no 
 caught by anti-spam at the time.
 
 I do not know what that process is called and have only ever 
 seen it in source code of certain spam e-mail
 
 Harry Vanderzand 
 inTown Internet  Computer Services 
 11 Belmont Ave. W.
 Kitchener, ON
 N2M 1L2
 519-741-1222
 Did you know we offer: 
 - Province wide dial-up and high speed internet access 
 - Web accessible email with anti-spam\antivirus protection
 - Computer hardware sales and service
 - Experienced website developers 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
  
  
  We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:
  
  (http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox
  
  
  This seems to work very well.
  
  
  Jason
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
  Vanderzand
  Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:30 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
  
  
  IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets translated 
  and I could do so also.  It would take a lot of extra time.  I copy 
  the url out of headers of spam that gets through and put it into my 
  filter file. These are bothersome however.
  
  Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails 
 as spam?  I 
  think it would be just spammers that do this.
  
  thanks
  
  Harry Vanderzand
  inTown Internet  Computer Services
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Bill Landry
I have to agree with Matt.  I am starting to see quite a few spam messages
from the same spammer that has now implemented SPF for the following three
domains:

yfdvdsmail.com
freefamilydeals.com
americanfamilydeals.com

I primarily now use SPF for adding negative weight for SPF fails.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


 So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF
 records.  Not a surprise.

 You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting
 any points to those that pass.

 Matt



 Frederick Samarelli wrote:


 This is the offending header.



 Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])

  by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515

  for   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500

 Message-ID:


 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 als.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)

 From: Point.com

  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: American Family Deals

  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: Nancy Gladwell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories  Shipping at NO Cost

 Mime-Version: 1.0

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

  boundary==_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959

 X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn

 X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail

 detected. [2-3-1800]

 X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]

 X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]

 X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from

 mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in

 MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]

 X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:

 http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613;
 http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613  [2-33-10800]

 X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426,
 weight 3)

 [2-57-1c800]

 X-Declude-Sender:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [69.56.11.46]

 X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD

 X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23

 X-Note: Sent from:
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To:   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:46 AM

 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)







 What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.



 Is there a place to report it.



 It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,

 but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find
 someone

 responsible that allowed the spam through.



 If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.



 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I am against subtracting points from and email based on an exturnal test. We
only add weight unless we are counterweighting a known issue with valid
email.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


 I have to agree with Matt.  I am starting to see quite a few spam messages
 from the same spammer that has now implemented SPF for the following three
 domains:

 yfdvdsmail.com
 freefamilydeals.com
 americanfamilydeals.com

 I primarily now use SPF for adding negative weight for SPF fails.

 Bill
 - Original Message -
 From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)


  So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF
  records.  Not a surprise.
 
  You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting
  any points to those that pass.
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  Frederick Samarelli wrote:
 
 
  This is the offending header.
 
 
 
  Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46])
 
   by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515
 
   for   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500
 
  Message-ID:
 
 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  als.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
  Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)
 
  From: Point.com
 
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Reply-To: American Family Deals
 
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  To: Nancy Gladwell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Subject: [~23]Cell Phone, Accessories  Shipping at NO Cost
 
  Mime-Version: 1.0
 
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 
   boundary==_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
 
  X-nb: zspttavsabivfviftpfnfnnn maifvvbmwpmfifmpa pmfwstssn
 
  X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
 
  detected. [2-3-1800]
 
  X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 63. [2-6-3000]
 
  X-RBL-Warning: SPFPASS: SPF returned PASS for this E-mail. [2-17-8800]
 
  X-RBL-Warning: MAILPOLICE-BULK: This E-mail came from
 
  mxllvniqnx.americanfamilydeals.com, a potential spam source listed in
 
  MAILPOLICE-BULK. [2-26-d000]
 
  X-RBL-Warning: SBL-XBL:
 
  http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613;
  http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9613  [2-33-10800]
 
  X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 426,
  weight 3)
 
  [2-57-1c800]
 
  X-Declude-Sender:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [69.56.11.46]
 
  X-Declude-Spoolname: D09300e8a005e2c5b.SMD
 
  X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 23
 
  X-Note: Sent from:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail13.americanfamilydeals.com
 
  ([69.56.11.46]).
 
  X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by TCB [1.78i21] for virus.
 
 
 
  --=_Part_1277094_8887513.1079707950959
 
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  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
 
  This message contains an HTML formatted message but your email client
  does =
 
  not support the display of HTML. Please view this message in a different
  ma=
 
  il client or forward this email to a web-based mail system.
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test.
 
 
 
  Is there a place to report it.
 
 
 
  It should be treated the same way as regular spam that you would report,
 
  but there is a big exception here:  you can almost certainly find
  someone
 
  responsible that allowed the spam through.
 
 
 
  If you have the headers, feel free to post them here.
 
 
 
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 As  noted  in  the  last 2 weeks, current wisdom is to add points to
 those  senders  that trigger a SPFFAIL, and that rewarding a SPFPASS
 or SPFUNKNOWN will reveal no joy.

I've  never  done  anything  but penalize SPF FAIL. It's pretty common
knowledge, as you say.

--Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
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Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Pete McNeil
Watch out for this rule. There will be false positives. We've tried it long 
ago in sniffer. It turns out that there are quite a few legit messages sent 
with numbered links in them... so now we only code rules for specific 
numbered links (or stubs of them anyway).

You might try rules for partially encrypted numbered links (we've been 
adding these for a while). That is... look for a numbered link where a % is 
contained in any one of the octets. There's no good reason to encode part 
of a numbered link except to obfuscate it... our corpus shows this is 
pretty safe too.

hope this helps,
_M
At 01:40 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
We created an Imail rule to block these. Here is what we use:

(http\://\d\d\.|http\://\d\d\d\.):spambox

This seems to work very well.

Jason

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers
IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/  obviously gets translated and
I could do so also.  It would take a lot of extra time.  I copy the url
out of headers of spam that gets through and put it into my filter file.
These are bothersome however.
Is there a way that we could just mark these kind of mails as spam?  I
think it would be just spammers that do this.
thanks

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
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