Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Way off topic

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Post.Office is dead and gone. I shut off my last PO server about six months ago. It was a great product, orphaned by its new owner who did not choose to upgrade any of its capabilities to reflect the modern world. Sad. -d - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Way off topic

2004-06-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Sorry to be a bother but I need to find someone who has successfully harvested the passwords from Post.office so we can migrate to a newer MTA. If you have a small number of users (250? 500?), and assuming unencrypted POP3, parsing a lengthy network trace could do the job.

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
Let me start by saying I am a Declude newbie. Here's my situation. I am running Imail v8.11. I whitelisted my wife's email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, when she sends me an email it is not whitelisted by Imail/Declude. It continues to be processed and is not being whitelisted! What can I do?

[Declude.JunkMail] The message I just sent was flagged as SPAM...

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
what the heck is going on? Received: from declude.com [68.162.218.198] by mailhost.Advernetsolutions.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.11) id A5111EF027A; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:11:45 -0400 Received: from mailhost.Advernetsolutions.net [204.96.18.131] by mail.declude.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Let me start by saying I am a Declude newbie. Here's my situation. I am running Imail v8.11. I whitelisted my wife's email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, when she sends me an email it is not whitelisted by Imail/Declude. It continues to be processed and is not being whitelisted! What can I do?

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] The message I just sent was flagged as SPAM...

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
what the heck is going on? You'll have to tell me. :) The only thing I see here that seems to indicate that the E-mail may have been marked as spam is: X-IMail-Rule: H~X-RBL-Warning:NULL Data- X-RBL-WARNING: SPAMCHK: MESSAG It sounds like you have an IMail rule to delete any E-mail with an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
Hello again Scott. Actually, if a rule fails, I have the X-RBL-Warning inserted in the header. In my rules.ima file, if X-RBL-Warning is found, an email is moved into a folder called NULL. Maybe you can help me here. Basically I am using the default Declude config files. Is there a site/resource

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
No I added to Imail...I guess that is it. So, what it is the pecking order here? Does Imail's anti-spam ever come into play with Declude? Are the Kill list's looked at first? The phrase list used? Rules.ima? Where exactly does Declude take over? Thanks Scott. -- Original Message

[Declude.JunkMail] Help with Header info

2004-06-04 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Below are the headers from a message that was blocked. However, I having a problem figuring out just what blocked it. I don't block NOABUSE or NOPOSTMASTER so I am not sure why it was blocked. And that is why those both show as X-RBL_WARNING? So what blocked it? Hoping someone can help

[Declude.JunkMail] Quick SPAMDOMAINS Questuion

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Doherty
If I want to allow mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to pass SPAMDOMAINS, knwoing that at least some msn.com mail is actually transmitted by hotmail.com servers, how should I set up SPAMDOMAINS to allow both domains? msn.com msn.comhotmail.com ??? -Dave --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Maybe you can help me here. Basically I am using the default Declude config files. Is there a site/resource where a can download a mature version of the $default$.junkmail and the GLOBAL.CFG files? By default, any E-mail that is marked as spam will just have a warning added to its headers (spam

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
So, what it is the pecking order here? Does Imail's anti-spam ever come into play with Declude? Are the Kill list's looked at first? The phrase list used? Rules.ima? Where exactly does Declude take over? The order is as follows: 1. IMail's Control Access file (to block IPs) 2. IMail's Kill List

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
A few more questions... #3. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests). Is this the anti-spam seeder file and the url.blacklist file? Which are these actually? Also, how/what do you do to turn off Imail's V8 anti-spam completely? Just remove the kill,rules and phrase-text files? Thanks Che' --- [This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
A few more questions... #3. IMail v8 anti-spam (most tests). Is this the anti-spam seeder file and the url.blacklist file? Which are these actually? You'll need to contact Ipswitch to find out. For some unknown reason, they decided to have the IMail v8 anti-spam run at two different points in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Quick SPAMDOMAINS Questuion

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
If I want to allow mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to pass SPAMDOMAINS, knwoing that at least some msn.com mail is actually transmitted by hotmail.com servers, how should I set up SPAMDOMAINS to allow both domains? msn.com msn.comhotmail.com If you just use the second line, you'll be fine (do not

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Header info

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Below are the headers from a message that was blocked. How was it blocked? The HOLD action? What does the log file say about the E-mail? However, I having a problem figuring out just what blocked it. I don't block NOABUSE or NOPOSTMASTER so I am not sure why it was blocked. Those are the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Header info

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I know it was blocked because I have a spam mailbox that all Declude spam is routed to or ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is also where IMail is told to send its spam. Maybe I will just make two separate mailboxes - 1 for Declude Spam and 1 for IMail spam. That would probably be the easiest way.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help with Header info

2004-06-04 Thread Bridges, Samantha
I know it was blocked because I have a spam mailbox that all Declude spam is routed to or ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is also where IMail is told to send its spam. Maybe I will just make two separate mailboxes - 1 for Declude Spam and 1 for IMail spam. That would probably be the easiest way.

[Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread Jose Gosende
Why did this fail the REVDNS test? If I do a reverse DNS lookup for precisionx.net I get a valid PTR record back. TIA Received: from precisionx.net [216.119.112.51] by fpmamail.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A02C4790076; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:07:24 -0400 Received: from DedA50 [216.119.112.51]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Why did this fail the REVDNS test? If I do a reverse DNS lookup for precisionx.net I get a valid PTR record back. Reverse DNS is different than forward DNS. Reverse DNS takes an IP and returns the host name (using a PTR record); forward DNS usually takes a host name and returns an IP (using an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Imail's Whitelist...

2004-06-04 Thread Darin Cox
You have to turn it off in several places for each non-virtual domain, that is each domain with its own IP address. So, from IMail Administrator, under localhost | Antispam disable all DNS blacklists. Then under each domain with an IP go to Antispam and disable everything on all four tabs.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Quick SPAMDOMAINS Questuion

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks, Scott. -d - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Quick SPAMDOMAINS Questuion If I want to allow mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to pass SPAMDOMAINS, knwoing that at

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread Jose Gosende
OK, thanks. Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question I guess I'm confused as to why it's coming from this IP

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread Jose Gosende
I guess I'm confused as to why it's coming from this IP 216.119.112.51 when I've specified the MX record for precisionx.net to point to 65.110.77.72 Thanks, Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I guess I'm confused as to why it's coming from this IP 216.119.112.51 when I've specified the MX record for precisionx.net to point to 65.110.77.72 That I can't explain -- you would need to check with the documents for the inFusion email Server that sent the mail to see how to get it to use a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way off topic

2004-06-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
That's a great idea, Sandy. And I'll contribute a tiny hint and suggest that if anyone were to do so, using a sniffer like Ethereal with a capture filter would minimize the size of the actual data file collected, which would then make post-processing much simpler. Andrew 8) -Original

[Declude.JunkMail] Mutant son of MyDoom plans three-pronged attack (PLEXUS-A)

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Marchette
Mutant son of MyDoom plans three-pronged attack Virus writers have used code from the infamous Mydoom worm to create a potentially dangerous new Internet worm which uses multiple methods to spread. Plexus-A spreads using three different methods: infected email attachments,

[Declude.JunkMail] %TO% variable

2004-06-04 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
After searching the list archives, documentation and doing a test or two looking for undocumented variables with no luck I am hoping someone on this list will have a solution. We have a bounce message that needs to say who the message was sent to not the final recipient. This where someone has

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files?

2004-06-04 Thread Che Vilnonis
I second that. As a Declude newbie, I could use the expertise of others! Thanks, Che -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Ulrich Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files?

[Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files?

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Ulrich
We've seen more and more junk getting through on our servers. No doubt our config files are not up to date. I've downloaded the latest patch with the included config files. My question: does everyone run them stock or are there particular configs / settings / etc., that people are

[Declude.JunkMail] Text filters - What is counted?

2004-06-04 Thread jeff
I'm playing with a subject filter to stop the latest round of spam we seem to be getting. The messages have subjects like: Stop Spm Now! I'm adding points for multiple occurrences of letters, particularly vowels, with a filter like: SUBJECT 1 CONTAINSooo SUBJECT 1

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread Jose Gosende
I've solved this problem, thanks; it was related to a mail server config problem. Now, the IPNOTINMX test is failing for precisionx.net and I'm not sure why since the MX record is pointing to 65.110.77.72 (http://dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=precisionx.nettype=MX) Received: from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files?

2004-06-04 Thread jeff
My question: does everyone run them stock or are there particular configs / settings / etc., that people are implementing to make Declude even more effective than it is out of the box? Run them stock until you know what to change, then change only one thing at a time. That way you can tell

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Text filters - What is counted?

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm playing with a subject filter to stop the latest round of spam we seem to be getting. The messages have subjects like: Stop Spm Now! I'm adding points for multiple occurrences of letters, particularly vowels, with a filter like: SUBJECT 1 CONTAINSooo SUBJECT 1

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files?

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
A spot for filter downloads is an excellent idea. Kami has also posted his filters or an address to them in the mailing list. The bulk of my filters are based from the MailPure filters or Kami's. The Mailpure beta filters (don't use the old ones unless you have to) are very good filters to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS Failure question

2004-06-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I've solved this problem, thanks; it was related to a mail server config problem. Now, the IPNOTINMX test is failing for precisionx.net and I'm not sure why since the MX record is pointing to 65.110.77.72 (http://dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=precisionx.nettype=MX) X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good .edu

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
My company gets lots of e-mail from universities. Here's a filter that has been working good to credit good edu (mailfrom and revdns both .edu) I set the negative weight to credit enough points to counteract a one hit from a strong test like sbl/sniffer/spamcop. I've seen virus bounces get

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good state government agencies .us

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
My company gets lots of e-mail from state agencies. Here's a filter that has been working good to credit good gov (mailfrom and revdns both .us) I set the negative weight to credit enough points to counteract a one hit from a strong test like sbl/sniffer/spamcop. I've seen virus bounces get

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good .gov

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
My company gets lots of e-mail from US government agencies. Here's a filter that has been working good to credit good gov (mailfrom and revdns both .gov) I set the negative weight to credit enough points to counteract a one hit from a strong test like sbl/sniffer/spamcop. I've seen virus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Text filters - What is counted?

2004-06-04 Thread jeff
Each line in the filter file will only trigger a maximum of one time So if I have a filter like: ANYWHERE1 CONTAINSBob And a message that says: Bob can be called Bob, Bobby or Robert but not Bobalooza It gets assigned a weight of 1, correct? I was kinda hoping to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good state government agencies .us

2004-06-04 Thread Matt
Scott, This goes along the lines of something that I have been wondering about recently, trying to find a pseudo-whitelisting method that isn't likely to be exploited. The issue that I primarily find is that some open relays are that way because they will accept any local Mail From and relay

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files? - Here's some ideas

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
I'll post some filters and here are my favorite tests and why: For reference: I subject tag at 100, hold at 200 and delete at 300. 1. SPAMCOP. Use IP number. It had a very impressive May with me. Caught 150,000 out of 170,000 spams, with only about 25 false hits. I weight at 90% of my tag

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files? - Here's some ideas

2004-06-04 Thread Matt
Scott, It turns out that the DYNA trick wasn't the best method. Declude will skip any IP4R test with DUL/DYNA/DUHL in the name whenever it comes across an E-mail that has a local Mail From domain, which zombie spammers will often forge. That was a good idea before Declude 1.76 introduced the

[Declude.JunkMail] single user problem

2004-06-04 Thread Larry Craddock
I move mail beyond a certain weight to a suspect mailbox. Is there a way to NOT do that for just one account? thanks, Larry Craddock

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good state governmentagencies .us

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
I've noticed that my Relay counts have definitely been on the downturn. It doesn't seem to be the spammer's weapon of choice anymore. Maybe you shouldn't be worried about relays as much? The goal of my three tests is mostly to counteract one false positive possibly from Message Sniffer. In

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good Configuration Files? - Here's some ideas

2004-06-04 Thread Scott Fisher
I remember the discussion. I did some testing on the LAST for a week or so and I really didn't see much difference. That said, I'm not adverse to trying it again. Maybe I look into it again. Looking at your config, I do notice that the Dial Up tests are done in a last hop. That's a good idea

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] single user problem

2004-06-04 Thread Matt
If you have Declude JunkMail Pro, the answer is yes. You would set up a different .junkmail file, either with a REDIRECT statement or using the instructions for Per-User Configuration in the manual. http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116 Matt Larry Craddock wrote: I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter to help whitelist good state governmentagencies .us

2004-06-04 Thread Matt
Scott Fisher wrote: One counteract could be to end the tests on a relay test hit, a DYNA hit probably not an ALL hit. I was thinking along the same lines. For instance, I defeat the GIBBERISH and GIBBERISHSUB tests on my own system if they hit SNIFFER-GRAY since that's not what it was

[Declude.JunkMail] Loop ?

2004-06-04 Thread serge
Can someone take a look at the folowing header and let me know why it seems looping thru my server ? TIA Received: from mail.cefib.com [208.154.200.6] by mail.cefib.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A8DEF3E0054; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:01:34 +Received: from mail.cefib.com [208.154.200.6]

[Declude.JunkMail] Disable nobody ?

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi, all- Does anybody know how to disable the nobody alias universally on all domains on an IMail 8 server? We have about 500 domains on this box and roughly 200 of them have this alias. If I delete them, there's nothing to prevent a user from setting it up again. We've had a lot of dctionary

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable nobody ?

2004-06-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
If I delete them, there's nothing to prevent a user from setting it up again. I'd think it pretty unlikely that, if you used JavaScript validation to silently prevent the normal addition of the alias, people would craft form posts to hack around that. --Sandy

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable nobody ?

2004-06-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi, Sandy- You're right, of course. I had not thought of that. Thanks! -d - Original Message - From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Disable nobody ? If I delete them,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TO% variable

2004-06-04 Thread Darin Cox
Does %ALLRECIPS% do what you want? Darin. - Original Message - From: Roderick A. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] %TO% variable After searching the list archives, documentation and doing a test or two