All I have to say is things have a way of coming around...
That was a comment to you, and nobody here knows the B.S. Comments you've
sent me off list because I don't send personal emails to lists. I am leaving
the list after this email. I only came back on because I saw your email in
the
Apologies to the list for the noise, my bad!
Bill
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From: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All I have to say is things have a way of coming around
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From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 PM
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Jason,
The mechanism is perhaps there since user-specific ip4r lookups are in
place, but this may be a one-way identifier. The implication is they do
not, imho, based on their site's overview text.
The only way to tell is to individually evaluate email messages, or ask
them directly :(
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Newland
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:05 AM
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has anyone been able to auto-send them your held spam? I have tried
using
the ROUTETO command, but I get an error when I use
Hey Matt, thanks for the Trustic update and config info, this is very
helpful!
Bill
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:32 AM
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I do a ROUTETO
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:32 AM
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2. To send Trustic your (confirmed!) spam (typically only that
which has received very heavy weighting
style RBL..
You know what Bill? Fuck you.
I'm off the list. I have no interest in dealing with assholes like you.
It's
a waste of my time.
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From: Bill Landry
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Date: Mon
I just registered and turned it on, and it seems to have a lot of spam IPs listed.
I'll keep an eye out for false positives.
Bill
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Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:43:24 -0400
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From: Bill B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:50 AM
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I just registered and turned it on, and it seems to have a lot of spam IPs
listed. I'll keep an eye out for false
general stat.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill B.
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:50 PM
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I just registered and turned it on, and it seems to have a lot of spam IPs
Joshua,
Sunday, July 27, 2003 you wrote:
JL Yes, but it depends on what large is.
It seems to me the statement applies to all businesses.
JL It was created by the guy that made Yahoo's groups before Yahoo
JL owned them.
Well, that isn't exactly a confidence builder for me for various
Hmm... I wonder how effectively that data could be used to generate lists of IPs to
block at the firewall level. That'll be interesting to look at.
Bill
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From: Omar K.
Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:32:53 +0200
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Yes
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Yes, same here, I noticed that it is tagging IP's that have not been
caught
by easynet or osirusoft.
Another
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:40 AM
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The problem I have is that I have no way of knowing the cost of
this service
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From: Bill B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:29 AM
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Hmm... I wonder how effectively that data could be used to generate lists
of IPs to block at the firewall level
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From: Joshua Levitsky
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From: Bill B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:29 AM
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I've just started forwarding spam to them, but only the stuff that comes
in from Imail's content filtering, which is basically just sweeping up
after Declude (and it STILL bags about 10% of the survivors!).
One thing I was REALLY not happy about was their method of adding
default positives
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:35 PM
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One thing I was REALLY not happy about was their method of adding
default positives (i.e. the originally
: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:54 AM
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:44 PM
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I just verified a piece of spam that originated from a dialup IP. Now
its in my list and I see Trustic has
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:32 PM
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:08 PM
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Could that have been the idea in the first place? Who knows anything
about these guys?
While I can only speak
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:08 PM
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I'd leave this service alone for awhile so they can get their act
together. They may call this a beta
: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Could that have been the idea in the first place? Who knows anything
about
Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:56 PM
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I can understand how you'd be defensive since you recommended them to
the list, but this has nothing to do with sentiment and everything to do
with empirical observation of specific results. I'm sorry you feel the
way you do, but don't bandy about words like 'slander' when clearly they
don't
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From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:14 PM
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63.149.203.45
5 automated positive recommendations and a trusted server.
But here they're listed
Sunday, July 27, 2003 you wrote:
JL I'm not trying to make this an argument.
That's funny.
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From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 PM
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Sunday, July 27, 2003 you wrote:
JL I'm not trying to make this an argument.
That's
get 50 F.P or 150 F.P
Lets wait and see :)
Regards
Rifat Levis
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From: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:58 AM
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Why don't you guys give it a rest.
On 07/27/03 8:53pm you wrote...
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From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Sunday, July 27
http://www.trustic.com/ip?ip=63.149.203.45+
You were one of the positives and you didn't bother to submit spam to
make
it not trusted.
Wrong repeatedly. I sent spam to them as I've already said. All of it
at one point.
As you later note this is becoming a pi$$ing match and that doesn't
belong
All tiffs aside :),
Can I get some clarity on the operation here? If I personally submit an
e-mail that says 10.10.10.10 is a spammer IP, and that same address has
10 positives and 1 negative (Me). I understand that the IP will
probably be trusted, but is there something in the background that
This is kind of cool... I'm using it now as an RBL...
http://www.trustic.com/
Trustic is a new solution to the problem of unsolicited email. By
aggregating recommendations from its large community of members, Trustic
maintains a list of email servers that can't be trusted to prevent spam.
This
: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
This is kind of cool... I'm using it now as an RBL...
http://www.trustic.com/
Trustic is a new solution to the problem of unsolicited email. By
aggregating recommendations from its large community of members, Trustic
maintains a list of email servers that can't
Sounds interesting, for how long have you been using it ? Do you have any
stats?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:11 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL
: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Josh,
What is the entry you have put in your config file? (If you don't mind
sharing)
Thanks
Jason
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9
that
up too... which would be bad.
-Josh
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From: Omar K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Sounds interesting, for how long have you been using it ? Do you have any
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