ander
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From: Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Application Structure
> This discussion is all very useful.
>
> Any thoughts on the re
back $US399 not $NZ2k as previously written.
Regards,
Mike
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list delphi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: Application
This discussion is all very useful.
Any thoughts on the relative merits of the Astra solution. It certainly looks
to be very simple.
It would be typical in my app for data entry to occurr over a 2 hour period
every morning.
Reporting would be sporadic during the month with moderate use Mondays a
> > Citrix creates a virtual machine session on the server, and
> > echoes the IO across the network. It "merges" the local
> machine to the
> > remote session, so you can do things like print to the
> local server (but
> > the process is running
> > on the remote server).
>
> Mmmh - I hit the p
> Citrix creates a virtual machine session on the server, and
> echoes the IO across the network. It "merges" the local machine to the
> remote session, so you can do things like print to the local server (but
> the process is running
> on the remote server).
Mmmh - I hit the print button on
> Assuming they take 8 hours to key 60 transactions ie 8
> minutes per tran!
You are going to have to have the connection up for the full day (more like
12 hours at most places between the earlier starters & the late leavers) if
you are running a dumb terminal style application for everything.
T
> -Original Message-
> > I am not sure I like the suggestions of using Terminal
> Server or Citrix -
> > isn't it just the conceptual equivalent of giving your
> clients PC-Anywhere
> &
> > tell them to dial into your server?
>
> In Simplistic Terms yes but with multiple connections
Exc
> I am not sure I like the suggestions of using Terminal Server or Citrix -
> isn't it just the conceptual equivalent of giving your clients PC-Anywhere
&
> tell them to dial into your server?
In Simplistic Terms yes but with multiple connections
> The biggest problem is suggesting running a di
>Robert
>Just to be sure I understand your suggestion.
>Run the app at all sites but capture any transactions at the remote sites
in a
>form that they can be sent to the HO site for inclusion in their database?
>I guess with Paradox I would need to include code throughout the app to
capture
>all t
I am not sure I like the suggestions of using Terminal Server or Citrix -
isn't it just the conceptual equivalent of giving your clients PC-Anywhere &
tell them to dial into your server?
The biggest problem is suggesting running a dial-up line - Telecom charge 4
cents a minute during the day so i
Mark
> Can someone please advise good sources of information about
> Citrix and WinFrame? (Pumpkin Planet and Benchmark maybe?)
One of the local distributors (Express Data - Bill Hitchcock) will be able
to give you a demo
(You can probably download the client and connect via the internet)
> Al
> Can someone please advise good sources of information about
> Citrix and WinFrame? (Pumpkin Planet and Benchmark maybe?)
You might want to try http://www.citrix.com/ as a starting point
> Also - how far can I go down this road with Delphi Pro before I
> have to upgrade to C/S? What is t
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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 2:28 PM
Subject: [DUG]: Application Structure
> Hi (not sure if this should be Off Topic)
> Some advice please. I want to understand:
> FIRST what is the simplest, least expensive solution that is
> *possible*
> SECONDLY what
Hi
I appreciate all the good options that have been suggested.
The web solution form Xander, I'll leave for the moment - I need
to learn to walk before I run - and I'm still at the crawling
stage!
Can someone please advise good sources of information about
Citrix and WinFrame? (Pumpkin Planet and
t; > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Mark Howard
> > Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2000 14:28
> > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
> > Subject: [DUG]: Application Structure
> >
> >
> > Hi (not sure if this should be O
Robert
Just to be sure I understand your suggestion.
Run the app at all sites but capture any transactions at the remote sites in a
form that they can be sent to the HO site for inclusion in their database?
I guess with Paradox I would need to include code throughout the app to capture
all transac
OK. Thanks for your input.
Some further questions:
The application is currently talking to a Paradox database.
The Remote sites are not in cities and may not have access to ADSL
Do these alter your suggested solution?
Seems funny to me that Terminal Server (with the application residing on the
s
9/ At this point it taken six months to iron out, you are calling out the
software support weekly
and you are online dialup for 4 hours a day synching evergrowing databases.
-
But if you planned and designed properly before hand than the above would
not happen.
Nahum
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Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2000 16:17
Subject: Fw: [DUG]: Application Structure
> Not sure if my original response went out, but.
>
> >Why not batch up the transactions, zip them and email them to your
> >headoffice machine. The head office machine simply downloads t
Not sure if my original response went out, but.
>Why not batch up the transactions, zip them and email them to your
>headoffice machine. The head office machine simply downloads the emails,
>unzips and processes.
>You can use the Net masters NMSMTP (to send) and the NMPOP3 (to recieve)
> I agree with Neven (what a change!!! :) ), tho I'd also look
> at Windows 2000
> Server, as it has this functionallity built in.
Isn't there a limitation of 10 users for Win2K? If you need more than 10
users, you will need to go to meta frame.
> Citrix/Win2KServer would most likely be a bett
> Your 'simpliest' solution probably is citrix winframe
> and all the databases centralised on one machine
I have to agree here that this IS the lowest development AND the lowest
hardware requirement.
Local client at headoffice.
1. Database Server:
(IMHO all DB implementations should be CS ;
ut sybase, including
http://www.sybase.com/products/anywhere/remote2.html
Wes Edwards
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Mark Howard
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2000 14:28
> To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
> Subject: [DUG]: A
Howard
Win 2000 Server now has terminal server built in and they have solved so of
the Term Server bugbears
(notably remote printing) so they tell us..so you prob wouldn't even need
citrix
Funny thing is of course that if your client is already running NT4 server
all you have to do is upgrade
th
switched on, and
despite what Telecom may say, you CAN get a fixed IP address VERY VERY
easily.
N
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(see www.php.net) and
MySQL (all for free) but the above MS-based solution would be more simple.
Xander
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From: Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2000 14:28
Subject: [DUG]: Application Structure
> Hi (not sure if this should be Off Topic)
> Some advice please. I want to understand:
&g
Hi (not sure if this should be Off Topic)
Some advice please. I want to understand:
FIRST what is the simplest, least expensive solution that is
*possible*
SECONDLY what are the practical downsides of taking this simple
option compared to the "Ideal"
Situation
Client has 3 sites around NZ - bo
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