[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Not fixed at all (well partially in fact), still exists in *20060529... Is it due to upstream translation ? We must forward this kind of mistakes to the upstream team so that we don't have to do the job twice (or more). I've justed fixed this again, after Dapper release... (too bad :-/) - nautilus English: Removing device Located in: ../src/file-manager/fm-directory-view.c:6301 New translation : Déconnexion du périphérique - gnome-applets-2.0 * English: Please do not remove the device while this operation is in progress. Located in: ../drivemount/drive-button.c:802 New translation : Veuillez ne pas enlever le périphérique pendant la durée de cette opération. * English: Removing device Located in: ../drivemount/drive-button.c:782 New translation : Déconnexion du périphérique -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
I don't understand how a good translation becomes bad. This is the second times since the freeze users reported me this kind of mistakes (trouble with gThumb/Plain écran and shared-mime-info/chiffier). All these are supposed to be fixed for a month. P.S. : well in French Benoït is a joke (Ben-oït), I'd prefer Benoît :-D -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
I blame the french keyboard layout to have ¨^ on the same key ;) Are you sure those errors have been fixed previous? Maybe that was some other similar issues. Rosetta doesn't make it easy at the moment to know who changes what and there is some translators doing mistakes obviously. There is some work going on to make that better from rosetta and with a bettrer organisation of the team -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
If you search for Removing device in all the language-pack-* you will find only two strings : - one in nautilus.po - one in gnome-applets-2.0.po These are the ones I've just fixed and that had been fixed in the past (at least for périférique - périphérique). In fact I thought that retirement would have been fixed too after my remark but I'm not sure since I'm not the one who has made the fix. For Plain écran , I've done the two fixes, so I don't understand. It may be another user, you may be right (or an upload / changes in the po ?). -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Fixed in language-pack-gnome-fr-base-6.06+20060427. ** Changed in: language-pack-gnome-fr-base (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
No, déconnexion IS the right term. Même l'office de la langue française le dit. http://w3.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index800_1.asp Additional proof: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=frq=define%3Ad%C3%A9connection http://www.google.fr/search?hl=frq=define%3Ad%C3%A9connexion -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Just for you :) I went digging in some of the old dicos lying in my aunt's house and took a shot. Don't have the reference, the cover was torn off. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1497/connexion8zk.jpg -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: [Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
déconection is a neologism (even though accepted). deconnexion is the right word . -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: [Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Well I think that's one problem solved ;) -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: [Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- S. Murer -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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On 13/04 07:45, Sentenza wrote : I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... I agree too, but then it would be Déconnexion, not Déconnection :-) But retrait is fine too. jms You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Quoting Sentenza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... Arrgh, the mistake... At worst it is Déconnexion but this word does not exist in French. I personnaly vote for Retrait. You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- N'imprimez pas ce courriel. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Maybe this kind of problems should be discussed on ubuntu-fr-l10n mailing list. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
one task is enough for that and that's not an issue on that package ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: ubuntu-meta = None Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
And I agree with Lionel, the right place for such discussions is not the bug trackers but the locale translators list -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Sentenza wrote: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Err, yep, Déconnexion du périphérique sounds better, doesn't it ? So let's vote, friends ! :-) I choose this one. -- S. Murer -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Hi +1 for Retrait du périphérique :) Connecter verb is probably linked with a *network* situation in beginners mind, while Brancher, Retirer, Débrancher, Retrait is associated with the physical movement of *(un)plugging* the device. Just my 2 cents. Paul Hacketiwack wrote: Quoting Sentenza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... Arrgh, the mistake... At worst it is Déconnexion but this word does not exist in French. I personnaly vote for Retrait. You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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On windows, it's written Retirer le périphérique en toute sécurité. Except the Windows joke about security, i think we have to choose something in adequation with Windows terms, i vote for Retrait du péripéhrique. Paul RIVIER a écrit : Hi +1 for Retrait du périphérique :) Connecter verb is probably linked with a *network* situation in beginners mind, while Brancher, Retirer, Débrancher, Retrait is associated with the physical movement of *(un)plugging* the device. Just my 2 cents. Paul Hacketiwack wrote: Quoting Sentenza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... Arrgh, the mistake... At worst it is Déconnexion but this word does not exist in French. I personnaly vote for Retrait. You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Hi, I agree with Paul, I think Retrait du périphérique is more adapted than Déconnexion... in this case. And it sounds better :) On 4/13/06, Paul RIVIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi +1 for Retrait du périphérique :) Connecter verb is probably linked with a *network* situation in beginners mind, while Brancher, Retirer, Débrancher, Retrait is associated with the physical movement of *(un)plugging* the device. Just my 2 cents. Paul Hacketiwack wrote: Quoting Sentenza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... Arrgh, the mistake... At worst it is Déconnexion but this word does not exist in French. I personnaly vote for Retrait. You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Cordialement, Ludo. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Hi, On Windows, this is translated by Retirer le périphérique which is a very good translation I think. However, the translation depends on the context. Does it mean Do you want to remove the device ? or Ubuntu is removing the device ? For the first one, the translation should be Retirer le périphérique. For the second one, déconnection du périphérique. Seb. 2006/4/13, Paul RIVIER [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi +1 for Retrait du périphérique :) Connecter verb is probably linked with a *network* situation in beginners mind, while Brancher, Retirer, Débrancher, Retrait is associated with the physical movement of *(un)plugging* the device. Just my 2 cents. Paul Hacketiwack wrote: Quoting Sentenza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Déconnection du périphérique or Débranchement du périphérique is more appropriate... Arrgh, the mistake... At worst it is Déconnexion but this word does not exist in French. I personnaly vote for Retrait. You don't retire a device, or do you??? :-) Sébastien MURER wrote: Benoît Turpin wrote: Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. I totally agree with that. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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Hi dear french contributors, :) (and sorry for feeding this thread, I know it is not the best place) kritchek wrote: Does it mean Do you want to remove the device ? or Ubuntu is removing the device ? For the first one, the translation should be Retirer le périphérique. For the second one, déconnection du périphérique. Retirer le périphérique for the first one, and Retrait du périphérique for the second one, that seems more consistant to me. Fench language has some very nice words, why use ugly words like déconnection ? :) Best regards from marseille Paul -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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kritchek wrote: Hi, On Windows, this is translated by Retirer le périphérique which is a very good translation I think. However, the translation depends on the context. Does it mean Do you want to remove the device ? or Ubuntu is removing the device ? For the first one, the translation should be Retirer le périphérique. For the second one, déconnection du périphérique. Seb. Hi, There is a very frequent mistake : you should write déconnexion in French, not déconnection. This is probably due to the the English origin of the word : disconnect. :-) See you, -- S. Murer -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Please stop discussing this here, this is not the right place. I just started a discussion about this issue on ubuntu-fr-l10 mailing list. You can subscribe to this there : http://lists.ubuntu.com Thanks. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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+1 Paul So I vote for : Retirer le périphérique for the first one, and Retrait du périphérique for the second one. Seb. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
For some reason Ubuntu Bugs and Ubuntu Desktop Bugs are subscribed to this bug. Someone should fix this. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH I really didn't want to launch a flame war... That's definitely the problem with french (language not people)... We can spend so much energy on a simple word :-) Best regards from Luxembourg... Olivier Paul RIVIER wrote: Hi dear french contributors, :) (and sorry for feeding this thread, I know it is not the best place) kritchek wrote: Does it mean Do you want to remove the device ? or Ubuntu is removing the device ? For the first one, the translation should be Retirer le périphérique. For the second one, déconnection du périphérique. Retirer le périphérique for the first one, and Retrait du périphérique for the second one, that seems more consistant to me. Fench language has some very nice words, why use ugly words like déconnection ? :) Best regards from marseille Paul -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 38967] Re: Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta
Removing device is also traduce by Retirement du périphérique Retirement is an old word and doesn't suit to this situation, it would be better to use Retrait. -- Translation mistake we can't find in Rosetta https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/38967 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
