only an blessed dep, but
> conduit branched for 2.24.
>
> John
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>> conduit branched for 2.24.
>>
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Not sure if it needs announcing as we're only an blessed dep, but
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From Li Yuan regarding a11y:
>
> "Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the left
> tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has to drag
> som
On 30 Jul 2008, at 12:50, John Stowers wrote:
What is the similar family of apps to conduit. What are people
expecting? Given a new type of tool, with which they are unfamiliar,
is
it not OK to ask that the user spend a few minutes learning about it?
Yes, but these days, users expect the
ke
>> System → Preferences → Synchronization or something. I can't see how
>> it's different from libgda's DB access properties or from PolicyKit's
>> authorization editor.
> I would say the UI is a necessary evil, during the transition, until
> more app
en a future, improved UI appears, it will probably live in
> > accessories, so why confuse existing conduit users with two moves, once
> > -> system, and once back to accessories.
> > * The system/prefs menus are already very cluttered, often with items
> > that are neither sys
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Stowers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know If I agree with the icon being in system/preferences
> however, for two reasons.
>
> * If/when a future, improved UI appears, it will probably live in
> accessories, so why confuse e
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:03 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> 2008/7/31 Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 31.07.2008, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Vincent Untz wrote:
> >> > Short desc
2008/7/31 Mathias Hasselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am Donnerstag, den 31.07.2008, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Vincent Untz wrote:
>> > Short description:
>> > ==
>> > Conduit is a synchronization architectur
Am Donnerstag, den 31.07.2008, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
> Hi,
>
> Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Short description:
> > ======
> > Conduit is a synchronization architecture for the GNOME desktop. It
> > provides an intuitive GUI for synchronizing th
Hi,
Vincent Untz wrote:
> Short description:
> ======
> Conduit is a synchronization architecture for the GNOME desktop. It
> provides an intuitive GUI for synchronizing things and a DBus interface
> for external applications to do the same.
Stepping back for a seco
Hi!
Nice work with theme colors :) Also I would like to say I like that
gedit style tips when creating sync in advanced GUI, it would really
help a new user a lot. However, However, I still insist that Conduit
would rock if it would have quick sync wizard. I know lot of geeks
loath wizards, but
>
> * Also it would help if some artist would take care about the canvas and
> apply sane padding and line widths. It'd also help to apply theme colors
> instead of randomly chosen colors. My desktop theme uses decent
> gradients for UI elements. There are no gradients a
Hi,
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> Want to jump in and acknowledge John's great attitude on defending his
> application. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to have, if not
> already a good community around Conduit. Attitude counts.
I just want to echo this sentiment. Wo
Hi John,
Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 23:50 +1200 schrieb John Stowers:
> * Aside: I think the module discussions should be *much* earlier. To
> actually give application authors time to address concerns raised.
You've received feedback when proposing the module for the first time
(31 Mar), I ask
Want to jump in and acknowledge John's great attitude on defending his
application. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to have, if not
already a good community around Conduit. Attitude counts.
Not to make this completely about John. I knew initially that I had a
lot of proble
part of the GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility work.
Thanks again for your consideration for accessibility!
Will
John Stowers wrote:
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:37 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
From Li Yuan regarding a11y:
"Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the
left tree
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:37 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> From Li Yuan regarding a11y:
>
> "Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the
> left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has
> to drag some items to the right &qu
der to flickr. I did manage to drag rectangles for
> > > flickr and a folder to the canvas.
> >
> > Did you read the help documentation?
>
> With that question you described best, why Conduit is not ready for
> GNOME inclusion yet: No GNOME application, really n
From Li Yuan regarding a11y:
"Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the
left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has
to drag some items to the right "sync area", there is no way to do this
by keyboard. And the "sync a
the canvas.
>
> Did you read the help documentation?
With that question you described best, why Conduit is not ready for
GNOME inclusion yet: No GNOME application, really no single one should
require studying a manual for doing absolutely basic operations.
Despite that Conduit looks rea
c functionality
>
> I just tried Conduit (version 0.3.6 in Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't think
> it's at all easy.
0.3.6 is about 7 months old, its nearly impossible to get updates into
Ubuntu. Updated versions are available in our PPA
https://launchpad.net/~conduit/+archive
>
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:49 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
> > So with what sites can I easily sync my data (from what desktop
> > applications)?
>
> The following is a partial list of non-pim sync functionality
I just tried Conduit (version 0.3.6 in Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't
>
> I guess at the end of the day I'm not sure if/why conduit is replacing
> gnome-pilot.
Conduit has not been proposed to replace gnome-pilot. Eventually we will
support palm sync, and we can discuss the future of gnome-pilot at that
time.
I believe Conduit provides sufficient b
Le mardi 29 juillet 2008 à 14:47 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:27 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > > My phone is a W910i.
> >
> > It works with Palm Pilots.
>
> barely. I had to put my palm out of its misery (and inside a box) since
> gnome-pilot worked once in t
Hi,
Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:19 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
>> I don't have Conduit installed, the screenies are from the GNOME Pilot
>> assistant.
>>
>> My phone is a W910i.
>
> It works with Palm Pilots. I hope you were trying to ma
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:27 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > My phone is a W910i.
>
> It works with Palm Pilots.
barely. I had to put my palm out of its misery (and inside a box) since
gnome-pilot worked once in two years, and never with Evolution.
ciao,
Emmanuele.
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; >
> >
> > I can't tell :-) What kind of device do you have? Conduit can sync
> > Evolution, but it doesn't integrate into Evolution yet. (So your
> > screenshots are nothing to do with us :-) I can assure you that when we
> > assimilate gnome-pilot you won
I can't tell :-) What kind of device do you have? Conduit can sync
> > Evolution, but it doesn't integrate into Evolution yet. (So your
> > screenshots are nothing to do with us :-) I can assure you that when we
> > assimilate gnome-pilot you won't have to set all tho
Hi John,
John Carr wrote:
> Am I doing something wrong, running an unsupported phone (is there a
> list), or does this stuff just not work as well as I'd have hoped?
>
>
> I can't tell :-) What kind of device do you have? Conduit can sync
> Evolution, b
on+bluetooth vs. physical insertion+auto detection, i
> actually
> prefer a button. I really don't think it's horrible to have a sync button,
> especially when cool wireless hardware saves me from the annnoying cable.
>
> With bluetooth, the 'always on case' consumes p
3756836/in/photostream/
>
> I have no HotSync button, my phone is plugged in, but undetected, and
> there is no way to complete the registration of the sync source.
>
> Am I doing something wrong, running an unsupported phone (is there a
> list), or does this stuff just not work as well
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:20 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> >
> >> Also, shouldn't this be integrated into particular applications?
> >> Shouldn't Evolution have a sync menu item, replacing it's current awful
Hi,
Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
>
>> Also, shouldn't this be integrated into particular applications?
>> Shouldn't Evolution have a sync menu item, replacing it's current awful
>> gnome-pilot synchronization feature.
>
> It might be awful but
ervices.
I like the architecture, and the functionality, but the UI isn't ready
for general consumption yet. I'd be happy to tell people to start
integrating Conduit in their applications for the next cycle though,
when it makes sense.
And not being in the "blessed" GNOME release d
> >
> > I appreciate the difficulty of doing all this, and I like that it's
> > being done properly via a proper framework, but it doesn't seem like it
> > has enough device support to be genuinely useful to many people yet.
>
> I know everyone likes to think of themselves as a representative us
own. GPM integration will likely/hopefully be done this
cycle.
I don't want GNOME to wait forever (again..) for the perfect sync
solution, because in my experience perfect is equivalent to supporting
>= some arbitrary moving threshold combination of devices and
webservices.
The diverse a
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 22:21 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > How easy is it to do this for any particular specific cases, such as
> > syncing a Palm with a desktop PC (With Evolution, hopefully), or syncing
> > the contacts on my mobile phone
hen cool wireless hardware saves me from the annnoying cable.
With bluetooth, the 'always on case' consumes power on two portable devices
(laptop+phone)?
Ofcourse my point of view is based on my (possible) use of conduit ;). That's
calendar and contacts.
>
> __
/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> > > Proposal on d-d-l:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
> > > License: ??? (GPLv2 or later?)
> > >
> > > Short description:
> > > ==
> > > Condu
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> > Proposal on d-d-l:
> > http://mail.gnome.org/
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:24 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> Also, shouldn't this be integrated into particular applications?
> Shouldn't Evolution have a sync menu item, replacing it's current awful
> gnome-pilot synchronization feature.
It might be awful but it's working.
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On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> Proposal on d-d-l:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
> License: ??? (GPLv2 or lat
>
>
> In future there may be additional reasons to have conduit running all
> the time, such as 'always up to date' sync (only our gconf sync uses
> this ATM, IIRC).
>
The Tomboy and Folder plugins support Always Up To Date, and in a couple of
days the windows mobi
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:47 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
>
> > If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically
> > start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the
> > accessori
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:47 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
>
> > If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically
> > start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the
> > accessori
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:33 +1200, John Stowers wrote:
> If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically
> start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the
> accessories menu, the Gui will be launched atop the already running
> service.
Ok; can y
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:33 PM, John Stowers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If another app calls into conduit using dbus, it will automatically
> start, without the gui. If the user then starts Conduit from the
> accessories menu, the Gui will be launched atop the already ru
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:16 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> > Proposal on d-d-l:
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archi
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:16 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> > Proposal on d-d-l:
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archi
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> Proposal on d-d-l:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
> License: ??? (GPLv2 or lat
which is
> visible when the synchronisation is used, is just too complicated for
> day-to-day use.
>
As user who tried to use Conduit, I don't think that GUI is a problem
itself - I like the way it displays how it will handle sync. However,
it is very hard to configure anything within i
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 02:16 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not this time, IMO. Let's wait for a better UI.
>
> Please keep in mind that the synchronization is also available as a
> service so you shouldn't be forced to
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 01:05 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> > Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> > svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> > Proposal on d-d-l:
> > http://mail.gnome
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not this time, IMO. Let's wait for a better UI.
Please keep in mind that the synchronization is also available as a
service so you shouldn't be forced to use the UI in order to sync your
phone's address book or to post yo
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> Proposal on d-d-l:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
> License: ??? (GPLv2 or lat
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, à 00:32 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
> svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
> Proposal on d-d-l:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
> License: ???
Homepage: http://www.conduit-project.org
svn/git/bzr/...: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/conduit/
Proposal on d-d-l:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-March/msg00320.html
License: ??? (GPLv2 or later?)
Short description:
==
Conduit is a synchronization
Hi,
Le lundi 31 mars 2008, à 23:35 +1300, John Stowers a écrit :
> Hey Guys,
>
> On behalf of the Conduit [1] development team, I would like to propose
> Conduit for inclusion in GNOME 2.24 desktop suite.
Please update http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentythree/Desktop
(as descr
cept of persistent accounts probably needs to be
> > introduced at some point to allow saying sync these 5 google calendars
> > from the same acount with these matching evo ones without 5 separate
> > conduit groups.
> >
> > Note: There's a proposed SoC project
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 15:16 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote:
> I rather like the idea of conduit. I just set up some google calendar
> <-> evolution calendar syncs and it worked great.
>
> Since it's taking passwords and storing them, is it using a secure
> method like gnom
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 12:03 -0700, Eitan Isaacson wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Conduit in it's current state is not accessible. Is there a way to
> create and modify groups and items without using the mouse? This of
> course is a very basic access issue.
>
> Not less important, t
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 13:31 +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote:
> These are wonderful news! I'd like to thank you for Conduit, I use it
> often and it's really useful.
>
> The only thing I miss is PocketPC integration (which unfortunately I've
> to use for work) wit
elopment releases.
>
> But I agree that some application like Conduit would greatly benefit
> GNOME.
>
> Ciao,
> Mathias
>
> [1] http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/libegg/trunk/libegg/toolpalette/
> [2]
> http://tascheno
;d like to see the UI reviewed before giving it a +1, as I've had very
> hard times understanding how to actually make it work. Something a bit
> more like iSync (at least for the "core" PIM data) would be nice.
I agree. Such an interface could be easily implemented atop the C
I rather like the idea of conduit. I just set up some google calendar
<-> evolution calendar syncs and it worked great.
Since it's taking passwords and storing them, is it using a secure
method like gnome-keyring? Also, to sync a second calendar on the
same account it required me
Hi.
Conduit in it's current state is not accessible. Is there a way to
create and modify groups and items without using the mouse? This of
course is a very basic access issue.
Not less important, the canvas in which all the groups and items are
reviewed and edited is inaccessible to assi
Like other people commented there are still a few issues, but would be
a great improvement get this in gnome as it's very useful when having
access to more than one computer. Thanks a lot for your great work :-)
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On 3/31/08, Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'd like to see the UI reviewed before giving it a +1, as I've had very
> hard times understanding how to actually make it work. Something a bit
> more like iSync (at least for the "core" PIM data) would be nice.
>
And I'm still figuri
" PIM data) would be nice.
+1. I tried to use Conduit (the version in F8, whatever that is) and
couldn't figure out how to make it do *anything*, much less what I
wanted it for (to sync my class readings folder to my Nokia.)
Luis
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[2]
Also the preferences dialog could use quite some UI love.
But I agree that some application like Conduit would greatly benefit
GNOME.
Ciao,
Mathias
[1] http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/libegg/trunk/libegg/toolpalette/
[2]
http://taschenorakel.de/pictures/screenshots/2008/03/31/testtoolpalette.png
These are wonderful news! I'd like to thank you for Conduit, I use it
often and it's really useful.
The only thing I miss is PocketPC integration (which unfortunately I've
to use for work) with SyncCE.
Thanks for your wonderful job! I'd like to have Conduit in GNOME.
Matteo
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 23:35 +1300, John Stowers wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> On behalf of the Conduit [1] development team, I would like to propose
> Conduit for inclusion in GNOME 2.24 desktop suite.
> gnomevfs,
> * Our file/folder sync uses gnomevfs
That's not very GN
Hey Guys,
On behalf of the Conduit [1] development team, I would like to propose
Conduit for inclusion in GNOME 2.24 desktop suite.
* Purpose: Conduit is a synchronization architecture for the GNOME
desktop. It provides an intuitive GUI for synchronizing things and a
DBus interface for external
On 7/25/07, Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 07:59 -0700, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I dont see Conduit, no matter how singing and dancing, getting as much
> > > community buy in as e-d-s sync due to its heritage.
>
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 07:59 -0700, Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
>
> > I dont see Conduit, no matter how singing and dancing, getting as much
> > community buy in as e-d-s sync due to its heritage.
>
> Hrm?
It's used by Nokia on the N800, and obviously has more manpo
> I dont see Conduit, no matter how singing and dancing, getting as much
> community buy in as e-d-s sync due to its heritage.
Hrm?
- Jeff
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