On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 02:36 +, Rob Taylor wrote:
Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
Op dinsdag 12-02-2008 om 13:30 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Shaun
McCance:
I've used it for grabbing tarballs from ftp.gnome.org. Unfortunately,
it's not as useful as it could be, since the gnome-vfs
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 01:30 +0100, Mattias Bengtsson wrote:
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 01:26 +0100, Matteo Settenvini wrote:
Moreover, a regression is a regression, and should be prioritized. Btw,
how much useful is having WebDAV and ObexFTP in before normal FTP
support?
No idea what is used
Op woensdag 13-02-2008 om 11:06 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Alexander
Larsson:
Well, gvfs already does this for the uris it supports. Its one of the
main features of it. Any app can open and save to files on gvfs
shares.
A dumb question maybe, but why is it needed to re-implement
Kjartan Maraas wrote:
ti., 12.02.2008 kl. 16.32 +0100, skrev Andre Klapper:
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 17:11 +0200 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
So I suggest - delay the release. Delay Ubuntu LTS. Delay also other
distro releases. Why? Because not release date matters. What matters
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 12:28 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
Op woensdag 13-02-2008 om 11:06 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Alexander
Larsson:
Well, gvfs already does this for the uris it supports. Its one of the
main features of it. Any app can open and save to files on gvfs
shares.
ti., 12.02.2008 kl. 16.32 +0100, skrev Andre Klapper:
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 17:11 +0200 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
So I suggest - delay the release. Delay Ubuntu LTS. Delay also other
distro releases. Why? Because not release date matters. What matters
here is a _product_. It should
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 19:58 +0200 schrieb Kalle Vahlman:
I suggest people either convert to doing the ports camp (yes I'm
looking at the list[1] for something within my power to port), to
testing the ports camp or at least stop acting like gio already
didn't make it.
just to avoid
I use ftp:// on Nautilus daily to connect to six-to-seven different FTP
servers on a GNOME 2.20 workstation at work. It's a little bit shaky,
but usable.
Now on GNOME 2.21.x at home, I use lftp on a terminal, 'cause I don't
fear typing :-).
However there are quite a lot of people out there
On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 01:26 +0100, Matteo Settenvini wrote:
Moreover, a regression is a regression, and should be prioritized. Btw,
how much useful is having WebDAV and ObexFTP in before normal FTP
support?
No idea what is used the most or anything. But i use ObexFTP daily at
work transfering
Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
Op dinsdag 12-02-2008 om 13:30 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Shaun
McCance:
I've used it for grabbing tarballs from ftp.gnome.org. Unfortunately,
it's not as useful as it could be, since the gnome-vfs ftp backend
doesn't follow symlinks. So if you try to use
Op dinsdag 12-02-2008 om 13:30 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Shaun
McCance:
I've used it for grabbing tarballs from ftp.gnome.org. Unfortunately,
it's not as useful as it could be, since the gnome-vfs ftp backend
doesn't follow symlinks. So if you try to use Nautilus to grab all
the
2008/2/12, Andre Klapper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 19:58 +0200 schrieb Kalle Vahlman:
I suggest people either convert to doing the ports camp (yes I'm
looking at the list[1] for something within my power to port), to
testing the ports camp or at least stop acting like
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 19:20 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
ti., 12.02.2008 kl. 16.32 +0100, skrev Andre Klapper:
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 17:11 +0200 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
So I suggest - delay the release. Delay Ubuntu LTS. Delay also other
distro releases. Why? Because not release
On Feb 12, 2008 12:58 PM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's people determined to make this work and working hard to do
that, let's rather support them than make them feel rejected.
That was absolutely not my intent; if the problem is as bad as was
originally implied (that the .0
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 9:24 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the
gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying the .0 release if
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 11:37 -0300, Jonh Wendell wrote:
Em Ter, 2008-02-12 às 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha escreveu:
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will
On Feb 12, 2008 11:15 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 10:01 AM, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I can't say I'm happy about something like that though, since I spent
the last 1.5 years or so
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 17:11 +0200 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
So I suggest - delay the release. Delay Ubuntu LTS. Delay also other
distro releases. Why? Because not release date matters. What matters
here is a _product_. It should be usable, it should be documented,
it is *definitely*
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
But agreed that the right thing to do is to delay the release rather
than release a .0 with substantial regressions (as I ranted on a bit
at my blog and on gnome-bugsquad.)
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 15:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote:
I'm not sold on the fact that there are many important regressions.
The
main regressions, in my mind, are the ftp backend, the network
backend
and the connect dialog. There might be some other regressions, but
I've
not noticed
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:28:21AM -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 9:24 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the
gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying
Em Ter, 2008-02-12 às 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha escreveu:
Hi,
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the
gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying the .0 release if needed. Obviously,
releasing Nautilus with too many or some big regressions is not a good
plan.
More for
Le mardi 12 février 2008, à 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha a écrit :
Hi,
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without
Hi,
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions.
Why aren't we talking about punting it until GNOME 2.23/24?
On Feb 12, 2008 8:53 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 08:42 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 08:42 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions.
Why aren't we talking about punting it until GNOME
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 11:20 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 11:15 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008 10:01 AM, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I can't say I'm happy about something like
Am Dienstag, den 12.02.2008, 09:28 -0500 schrieb Luis Villa:
On Feb 12, 2008 9:24 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the
gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying
Yeah, i also don't see the regressions as major. I mean, its not like
gnome-vfs is bugfree. The reason we're going from it is because its
problematic.
I have to disgraee. I think they are. The end user is more likely to see
these regression than any bug or design issue that gnome-vfs has.
Hi Vincent and Alex,
2008/2/12, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Le mardi 12 février 2008, à 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha a écrit :
Hi,
2008/2/12, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions.
Why aren't we talking about punting it until GNOME 2.23/24? We've never
allowed this kind of thing before -
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 15:22 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
At this point, it's not just about nautilus. Other modules were ported
to gio... Reverting, while doable, would be painful.
I'm not sold on the fact that there are many important regressions. The
main regressions, in my mind, are the
On Feb 12, 2008 9:24 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote:
I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the
gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying the .0 release if needed. Obviously,
releasing Nautilus with too
Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be
ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions.
Why aren't we talking about punting it until GNOME 2.23/24? We've never
allowed this kind of thing before - punting would be entirely normal.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.murrayc.com
Le jeudi 24 janvier 2008, à 10:25 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 17:48 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
I do not like having to write the address in
the location bar to have it accessible on the Desktop
Try this:
* open smb://network/resource
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 14:27 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
However, as cosimo noticed, this somewhat overlaps with what bookmarks
can be used for too. If you put a bookmark to a network location you can
use that to easily mount the network mount too... Of course, then when
its mounted it
Seems like Mozilla is considering to switch to GIO. See
http://ventnorsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/gio-gee-i-dunno.html .
-- André
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2008-01-24 klockan 21:13 skrev Pat Suwalski:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
Anyway, I don't want to sound negative; if somebody reimplements
fonts:// for gvfs
that would be great. I just don't think it has a high priority.
My fear is that it will then get all politicized. Well, such and such a
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 17:48 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
I do not like having to write the address in
the location bar to have it accessible on the Desktop
Try this:
* open smb://network/resource
Cosimo was right when he said he doesn't like to write an address in the
2008/1/24, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 17:48 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
Cosimo was right when he said he doesn't like to write an address in the
location bar. By default, Nautilus doesn't even show one, and until now,
GNOME users didn't have to
Il giorno mer, 23/01/2008 alle 17.48 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen ha
scritto:
Hi Luca,
Op woensdag 23-01-2008 om 14:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Luca
Ferretti:
I've one: click on some link pointing to non-managed target, download
the target, auto-open $HOME/Downloads folder --
Op woensdag 23-01-2008 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Matthias
Clasen:
It would be even easier if dropping font files on the directly on the
font tab worked, without the need for a detour through nautilus.
Yes, but how would a user preview or uninstall fonts then?
What would be the
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 18:41 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
It might not be the right location for this button, but it's more useful
there than nowhere.
I would say that it probably isn't. I've been using GNOME for about 3
years now and never knew that that button (or fonts:/// for that matter)
On Jan 24, 2008 12:15 PM, Reinout van Schouwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Op woensdag 23-01-2008 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Matthias
Clasen:
It would be even easier if dropping font files on the directly on the
font tab worked, without the need for a detour through nautilus.
Matthias Clasen wrote:
For preview, open the font selector, select font, type text...
The advantage of fonts:// is that is has previews, which is a very nice
feature.
It never occurred to me that anyone would want to uninstall fonts.
At the very least, uninstallation of the fonts the user
As most people probably know by now I'm working on landing gio/gvfs in
Gnome 2.22 replacing gnome-vfs as the virtual filesystem.
At the moment I'm mostly working on fixing all the feature regressions
from the last release. We're in a pretty good shape with this, but there
are still a few
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the panel menus. I don't know the status
of these atm. Could
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 13:34 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2008, à 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe)
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:44 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe)
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 13:16 +0100, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
Il giorno mer, 23/01/2008 alle 12.17 +0100, Alexander Larsson ha
scritto:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i
2008/1/23, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2008, à 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2008, à 14:31 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
The main problem I had when doing the patch is that there's no
equivalent for gnome_vfs_make_uri_canonical(). Is this the right way to
do this:
file = g_file_new_from_uri (uri);
canonicalized = g_file_get_uri
Il giorno mer, 23/01/2008 alle 13.16 +0100, Cosimo Cecchi ha scritto:
Il giorno mer, 23/01/2008 alle 12.17 +0100, Alexander Larsson ha
scritto:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being
any interested volunteers may also take a look at the crashers list of
nautilus 2.21 and provide patches to help out:
Hi Luca,
Op woensdag 23-01-2008 om 14:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Luca
Ferretti:
I've one: click on some link pointing to non-managed target, download
the target, auto-open $HOME/Downloads folder -- Result: nautilus shows
an error alert saying is unable to find
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2008, à 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the panel menus. I don't know the status
of these atm.
On Jan 23, 2008 6:17 AM, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the panel menus. I don't know the status
of these atm.
Vincent Untz wrote:
FWIW, Andre created this page to track the status of the migration to
gio:
http://live.gnome.org/GioPort
I updated on a very conservative reading of a big grep on my jhbuild
checkout, marking some modules as not needing migration.
The diff is there[1] and the modules I
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the panel menus. I don't know the status
of these atm. Could
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 18:45 +, Ross Burton wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote:
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there are
also other uses of gnome-vfs in the desktop. Like the trash applet
(being worked on i believe) and the
2008-01-23 klockan 17:48 skrev Reinout van Schouwen:
If network mounts can be re-implemented as bookmarks, I'm fine with
that, but they should still be visually discernable from regular folders
as is currently the case in the Location menu.
The 'remote folder' icon might be a good choice. For
2008-01-23 klockan 18:51 skrev Matthias Clasen:
I've put a patch to port the trashapplet in bugzilla, and another
patch to get rid of the Go to Fonts folder button in the appearance
capplet. That was the only use of fonts:// in the desktop, and I don't
think it is very useful... bringing up a
On Jan 23, 2008 3:32 PM, Wouter Bolsterlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008-01-23 klockan 18:51 skrev Matthias Clasen:
I've put a patch to port the trashapplet in bugzilla, and another
patch to get rid of the Go to Fonts folder button in the appearance
capplet. That was the only use of
2008-01-23 klockan 22:53 skrev Matthias Clasen:
Well, currently the Go to fonts folder button runs nautilus fonts://.
What I meant was to replace that with specimen. But I think nuking
the button is better.
Perhaps the button could only be shown if the gnome-specimen executable is
in the
Sebastian Pölsterl wrote:
Are there any plans for providing python bindings?
In progress;
http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/pygobject/trunk/gio/
Unlikely to hit GNOME 2.22 though.
Johan
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Well, currently the Go to fonts folder button runs nautilus fonts://.
What I meant was to replace that with specimen. But I think nuking
the button is better.
Isn't that button the only UI connection from a user's point of view to
where to dump font
On Jan 23, 2008 6:41 PM, Pat Suwalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Well, currently the Go to fonts folder button runs nautilus fonts://.
What I meant was to replace that with specimen. But I think nuking
the button is better.
Isn't that button the
FYI.
There is an bugzilla item about gio plugin for gstreamer
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510417
2008/1/24, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2008, à 12:17 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit :
These are the major regressions in the nautilus stack, but there
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