Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-04 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Christoph Gaffga wrote: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems like few people is using it. but what about the maximum support JDK? I tried to compile with 1.5beta, but it

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Reinhard Pötz dijo: Did you solve your problems with running ant using JDK? I proposed to run Ant with a JRE 1.5 and use the 1.5 compiler explicitly in the javac task of Ant. Did you try this? It would be fine to already include it in the build system. Soon or later we will need to make the

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-04 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Reinhard Pötz dijo: Did you solve your problems with running ant using JDK? I proposed to run Ant with a JRE 1.5 and use the 1.5 compiler explicitly in the javac task of Ant. Did you try this? It would be fine to already include it in the build system. Soon or

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-03 Thread Martin Holz
Hello Pier, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NIO is nice (indeed) for a bunch of things, and as Alan pointed out, using RegEx in the 2.2 sitemap would be a killer, but IMVHO for this release we have MUCH BIGGER fishes to fry: blocks and continuations. does Sun regex offer any

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Martin Holz wrote: does Sun regex offer any significant advantages over ORO or jakarta regexp ? Just curious. Probably just the fact that we'd ship one less JAR file. Ugo

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-03 Thread Alan
* Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:15]: Martin Holz wrote: does Sun regex offer any significant advantages over ORO or jakarta regexp ? Just curious. Probably just the fact that we'd ship one less JAR file. That was my point. (Though a change would break sitemaps depending on

Regexps (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2)

2004-03-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Alan wrote: * Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:15]: Probably just the fact that we'd ship one less JAR file. That was my point. (Though a change would break sitemaps depending on ORO specific patterns, if there is such a thing.) At the cost of breaking some sitemaps, and since

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-03 Thread Christoph Gaffga
The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems like few people is using it. but what about the maximum support JDK? I tried to compile with 1.5beta, but it didn't work. So I compiled

Re: Regexps (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2)

2004-03-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Ugo Cei wrote: Alan wrote: * Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:15]: Probably just the fact that we'd ship one less JAR file. That was my point. (Though a change would break sitemaps depending on ORO specific patterns, if there is such a thing.) At the cost of breaking some

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christoph Gaffga wrote: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems like few people is using it. but what about the maximum support JDK? I tried to compile with 1.5beta, but it didn't

Re: Regexps (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2)

2004-03-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: IIRC, ORO is not used by sitemap. Rather, CForms has direct dependecies on ORO. Might be worthwile checking if 1.4 regexps are good enough for the task. PS I heard that 1.4.0 regexp was not good: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-regexp-userm=106588023307749w=2 Oh,

Stream vs Mapped IO (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2)

2004-03-02 Thread Jorg Heymans
Has anyone else read Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java ? quote (chapter 12) Although the performance of old stream I/O has been improved by implementing it with nio, mapped file access tends to be dramatically faster. /quote So by switching to 1.4 and *not* using NIO you're likely to get a speed

RE: Stream vs Mapped IO (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2)

2004-03-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
, 2004 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stream vs Mapped IO (was Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2) Has anyone else read Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java ? quote (chapter 12) Although the performance of old stream I/O has been improved by implementing it with nio, mapped

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-02 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Geoff Howard wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-02 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-02 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Vadim Gritsenko dijo: Agreed. But, please, somebody, [POLL] our userbase first. There is already a pool. See the [POLL] in the user list. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-02 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 1 Mar 2004, at 08:33, Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Pier Fumagalli wrote: using RegEx in the 2.2 sitemap would be a killer I thought we already had regexp in the sitemap. -- Stefano, puzzled smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many environments where people are forced

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread David Crossley
Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:57]: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1 Does this mean we can use 1.4 regex in the sitemap? -- Alan / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Unico Hommes
David Crossley wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM regarding our persistent

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ugo Cei wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM regarding

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: Ugo Cei wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations.

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 04:41, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: Many was talked about this topic. I think it not need a large explanation: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 19:37, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Leo Sutic
From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But if someone provides a really useful 1.4 thing like the mentioned NIO-based implementation of the persistent store I'm for 1.4 of course. I'm more of a user than a developer of Cocoon, but I'd say that if someone can provide a reasonable

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Since we don't have a NIO-based implementation of the persistent store, yet, why upgrade now? When we have it, I'll be more than willing to vote +1. Ugo, this is chicken-egg problem: nobody is going to implement something on 1.4-only API if they

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Geoff Howard
Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many environments

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Alan dijo: * Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:57]: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1 Does this mean we can use 1.4 regex in the sitemap? Hi Alan: Yes. This is the

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ugo Cei wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Since we don't have a NIO-based implementation of the persistent store, yet, why upgrade now? When we have it, I'll be more than willing to vote +1. Ugo, this is chicken-egg problem: nobody is going to implement something on 1.4-only

[VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-02-29 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: Many was talked about this topic. I think it not need a large explanation: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems like few people is using it. Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-02-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: Many was talked about this topic. I think it not need a large explanation: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems like few people is using it. Do you