Re: [WG] Workgroups update

2024-03-29 Thread Gary Gregory
Thank you for following up. How would I signal my interest in or join a working group? Maybe I missed that part. Gary On Fri, Mar 29, 2024, 10:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > A month or so ago I started pitching workgroups as a way to organize and > make progress on the many pain points around the

Re: "Maintainer" as an alias of PMC Member?

2024-03-24 Thread Gary Gregory
> There is nothing to solve here. I couldn't agree more. Gary On Sun, Mar 24, 2024, 8:26 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > As much as folks love to debate names ... this isn't a real problem. Some l > People call PMC members simply "PMC" and while this might grate on some > people, it's not a real

Re: "Maintainer" as an alias of PMC Member?

2024-03-23 Thread Gary Gregory
more explicit "PMC Member" either... but these > are suggestions that might work if somebody were to really champion > one of them to help reduce confusion for non-native English speakers, > or anybody who tends to prefer nominative uses of language over > descriptive uses and ne

Re: "Maintainer" as an alias of PMC Member?

2024-03-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Delegate from what to what? "member" is fine IMO. Gary On Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 4:14 PM Christopher wrote: > Delegate? > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 3:42 PM Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > > I don't like "maintainer" here, a PMC member has a LOT more

Re: "Maintainer" as an alias of PMC Member?

2024-03-23 Thread Gary Gregory
I don't like "maintainer" here, a PMC member has a LOT more responsibility than the name implies IMO. "Maintainer" and "Contributor" feel almost interchangeable where a contributor might be a one-off and a maintainer more active. But we're splitting hair here IMO. Gary On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at

Re: [WG: Badging] Tooling, reclaiming thread

2024-03-20 Thread Gary Gregory
I don't think we should allow IDs to be "reserved": Imagine you've been granted committer privileges but you can't pick the ID you want because it has been "reserved" by a non-committer, it seems backward. Gary On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:37 AM Paulo Motta wrote: > > This is right Claude.

Re: [WG: Badging] Tooling

2024-03-09 Thread Gary Gregory
e before being emitted. > > > > > Personally, I do not see the point of them. > > > > You are probably not the target audience for badges if you are a seasoned > > contributor. > > > > > I wonder if there are there any privacy issue we should be able to >

Re: [WG: Badging] Tooling

2024-03-09 Thread Gary Gregory
> > > > > Some people may not want badges; they should not be forced to have > them > > > if they happen to meet the criteria. > > > > > > Badges need to be accepted by the awardee before being emitted. > > > > > > > Personally, I do not s

Re: [WG: Badging] Tooling

2024-03-08 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi Rich, I don't have specific realistic concerns, I am trying to look ahead and avoid a "how didn't yiu guys think of THIS!" moment  Gary On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, 12:19 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Gary D. Gregory > wrote: > > > > Sure, badging can be fun and it sure

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name

2024-02-18 Thread Gary Gregory
rstand it, ;-) Gary [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+advisory On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:08 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > On Feb 18, 2024, at 10:02 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > > I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a > &g

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Propose: milder name

2024-02-18 Thread Gary Gregory
I've never heard of someone being called a "sharpener"; I've used a knife sharpener and a pencil sharpener ;-) ... it feels like a stretch here. In general, I prefer names that simply describe intent instead of cuteness/cleverness, especially in an international context where I find it beneficial

Re: reporter.a.o 502 Proy error

2023-12-31 Thread Gary Gregory
For me it says "Loading base data" and that's it. Gary On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 5:24 AM Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > Hi, > > https://reporter.apache.org says "Notification [object Response]" after a > timeout. > > It seems to be a call to https://reporter.apache.org/api/overview > returning > a 502

Re: Problems with board reporter wizard?

2023-10-30 Thread Gary Gregory
I ran into this issue as well. Gary On Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 4:34 PM Daniel Sahlberg wrote: > Hi > > I have problems with the Board Reporter Wizard ( > https://reporter.apache.org/wizard/). > > I get an authentication prompt (basic auth, I think it is called..), > authenticate with my apache

Re: Centralise DOAPs?

2023-09-08 Thread Gary Gregory
Please don't embed in HTML, this is Metadata that should be easily consumable by external tools IMO. Gary On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 6:28 AM Christopher wrote: > I think many projects already have their doap files on their website, do > that's not really improving anything. It doesn't make much

Re: projects.a.o "maintainer" field

2023-09-07 Thread Gary Gregory
Listing the PMC seems reasonable when I think about external tools consuming this information. We shouldn't assume knowledge of our default process IMO. Gary On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 1:13 PM wrote: > With some attention on projects.a.o at the moment, I'd like to raise > the subject of the

Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

2023-09-07 Thread Gary Gregory
ree.www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 8:31 AM Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > >

Re: Valid languages for projects.apache.org

2023-09-07 Thread Gary Gregory
ODBC and JDBC are APIs, not languages, I hope we can all agree on that. The "L" in XML and SQL stand for Language, so... ;-) Gary On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 7:24 AM sebb wrote: > There are currently a few project DOAPs which use languages not in the > current valid list. > > These are: > >

Re: RFC: many PMCs have not provided DOAPs

2023-09-05 Thread Gary Gregory
I'm not I know what that entails. Gary On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 10:26 AM wrote: > On Tue, 2023-09-05 at 09:55 -0400, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > https://boxofclue.com/doap_projects.txt by sending each project a > > > > Eat own dog food ;-) https://paste.apache.org/ > >

Re: RFC: many PMCs have not provided DOAPs

2023-09-05 Thread Gary Gregory
> https://boxofclue.com/doap_projects.txt by sending each project a Eat own dog food ;-) https://paste.apache.org/ Gary On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:03 AM wrote: > > Hey, ComDev folks, > > Sebb sent the below to board@ earlier today, and I took it upon myself > to ping some of these projects, in

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Gary Gregory
I can't tell the difference between https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:dfr=2023-1-9|dto=2023-1-15 and https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:dfr=2023-6-12|dto=2023-6-18 They both use "[PR]". What am I missing? Gary On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 8:17 AM

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-27 Thread Gary Gregory
e did when we actually used the dev list for discussion > [Commons-Foo] > > is just [Foo]. There is also no value in the [GitHub] prefix in the > > messages from there. All PRs come from there. Probably should talk > about > > this on Commons-dev (maybe with s

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-03 Thread Gary Gregory
Thanks for sharing these links; what a great start :-) I'm pretty sure the Commons community will welcome these kinds of changes where a complaint has been the "flood" of emails from GitHub, so hopefully this will help. For my money though, I'd prefer much shorter subject prefixes, even to the

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Gary Gregory
I read a lot emails on my phone, so shorts subjects are good. If each subject becomes [PROJECT][DISCUSSION][PR 123] then it's worse than now IMO. Gary On Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 04:20 Christopher wrote: > I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] > topics, though. I

Re: home.apache.org code migration

2023-06-28 Thread Gary Gregory
I do love me some GitHub mirror from GitBox but I wonder how we want to keep some institutional Subversion knowledge within Apache by keeping some repositories there. Maybe that's just a problem for svn to deal with of course. Gary On Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 11:13 Gavin McDonald wrote: > Hi All, >

Re: Community-run MVP programs at the ASF

2023-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
A badge needs a place to put it and we aren't github where your profile page displays badges. I don't think we want to invent profile pages for Apache just to display badges. And your ~userid page is not the right place for that I think since users could put up any kind of image. Badges are fun,

Re: Proposal: Consolidate the various pages about voting/deciding

2023-05-30 Thread Gary Gregory
Yes, one page please, with old links redirected to the one page. 2c, Gary On Tue, May 30, 2023, 15:45 wrote: > We have four pages that discuss decision making, voting, consensus, and > so on. > > https://community.apache.org/committers/consensusBuilding.html > >

Re: Would this be a best practice? How-to contribute.json

2023-05-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Would it be nice to have this in POM files for Maven projects? Gary On Tue, May 9, 2023, 13:23 Shane Curcuru wrote: > Mozilla has an interesting practice of having a contribute.json schema > for their projects, which includes a brief description, the key > technologies used in the project, and

Re: Standardise on 'main' as the default branch?

2023-04-02 Thread Gary Gregory
I like release and develop. FWIW, a lot of Apache Commons components use release already. Gary On Sun, Apr 2, 2023, 11:06 Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi, > > There are many projects, where “main” contains the latest released version > and „develop“ is for development. > Others use “main” for

Re: [DISCUSS] ASF Mastodon instance?

2022-11-07 Thread Gary Gregory
Then why not just keep using Slack? Gary On Mon, Nov 7, 2022, 14:17 Niels Basjes wrote: > Yes, normally it is a lot of work for moderating. Hence my proposal to > limit it to (initially) only projects (pmc). > > By doing that I thought to eliminate the need for additional moderation. > > Niels

Re: Setting up a (temporary) slack channel for helping ukraine refugees?

2022-03-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Maybe this is a case of "Perfect is an enemy of good" -- Voltaire Gary On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 11:04 Adeel wrote: > Strange why all this help for only ukraine? > > Why not also set up a help-yemen, help-afghanistan, help-libya, help-iraq, > help-syria, help-palestine channels? Why the obvious

Re: SPDX identifiers in Apache projects

2022-03-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Or after? Gary On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 09:10 Willem Jiang wrote: > According to the example of SPDX ID[1], if we want to adopt the SPDX > ID, we may need to add a comment line in the file header just like > below > > // SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0 > > I think we can add it before the

Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

2022-02-27 Thread Gary Gregory
We just went through this with Log4j and decided that the Tidelift model was not compatible with Apache. Hopefully someone on our PMC can provide a recap. Gary On Sun, Feb 27, 2022, 17:06 Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Hi! > > over the past couple of years there has been a number > of efforts

Re: Thoughts on alternative communication channels for our communities

2022-02-16 Thread Gary Gregory
list". In the rare cases where no one says it- the original author > reflects back to the list- as is the case with this email and the comdev > list. > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:08 AM Gary Gregory > wrote: > > > Slack chat and video helped us tremendously on the

Re: Thoughts on alternative communication channels for our communities

2022-02-16 Thread Gary Gregory
Slack chat and video helped us tremendously on the Log4j team especially since Log4Shell. Gary On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 07:50 Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Hi! > > while the classical ASF communication culture is pretty squarely > centered around mailing lists it has become apparent in recent > years

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Gary Gregory
I agree that people should handle their affairs as they see fit RE Tidelift but how should this be allowed to trickle in on Apache WRT mentions in web sites and files like readme. IOW, should structs assets remove mentions of Tidelift? Gary On Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 08:52 Jim Jagielski wrote: >

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Commons Exec 1.2 Released

2014-01-08 Thread Gary Gregory
: Site: http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-exec/ Download: http://commons.apache.org/exec/download_codec.cgi Enjoy, Gary Gregory on behalf of the Apache Commons Exec team -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Editionhttp