Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-06-05 Thread Josh Fischer
What is it? I/someone else can give some help if needed. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 7:20 PM Ning Wang wrote: > That is the one I am blocked on. Will need to do another full tests before > starting the vote. > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:22 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > > > I just opened a PR that fixes

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-06-05 Thread Ning Wang
That is the one I am blocked on. Will need to do another full tests before starting the vote. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:22 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > I just opened a PR that fixes javadoc generation for the website build. Do > we have anything else outstanding before we can start a vote on the

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-06-05 Thread Josh Fischer
I just opened a PR that fixes javadoc generation for the website build. Do we have anything else outstanding before we can start a vote on the next release candidate? On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:31 AM Ning Wang wrote: > Yeah. We have chosen Debian 10 for the binary release and clean up the >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-27 Thread Ning Wang
Yeah. We have chosen Debian 10 for the binary release and clean up the license requirements for the first binary release. In the source level, we would also like to include a few platforms/versions in the main source code to be "supported" and the others will be moved to like a "extra" folder and

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-27 Thread Dave Fisher
I thought that the purpose of this discussion was to find the one or two platforms for Heron to support in order to keep down the complexity of making the first binary release for the community. Other platforms could be on a roadmap for future releases. Regards, Dave > On May 26, 2020, at

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-26 Thread Ning Wang
My concern about "latest" is that I feel most people hold it for some time before migrating to the latest version (if it ever happens). If there are numbers, it could make sense to use the most popular version (plus the other criterias). On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:14 PM Oliver Bristow wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-26 Thread Oliver Bristow
Sorry if I missed the rationale for Ubuntu 18.04 instead of 20.04, but would the latest LTS be a better choice? 18.04 was released before Debian 10, so that may be an argument for 20.04 re. compatibility if Debian 10 is the standard. There's already a 20.04 Dockerfile + I It looks like the

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-26 Thread Josh Fischer
Thanks for further clarifying. Yes, that is correct. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:16 PM Ning Wang wrote: > +1. > > So my understanding is: > binary (in future release): Debian 10. > source: Debian 9/10 + ubuntu 18.04 + centos 7. version numbers will be > updated in the future after more

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-26 Thread Ning Wang
+1. So my understanding is: binary (in future release): Debian 10. source: Debian 9/10 + ubuntu 18.04 + centos 7. version numbers will be updated in the future after more discussions/votes. others will be moved to a "extra" folder only for reference. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:13 AM Josh

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-26 Thread Josh Fischer
Hi All, Based on what I've read on this thread a combination of CentOS/Debian would be the better options for us to support multiple versions for the community. We will also support one version of Ubuntu. So. I will start a vote in 72 hours that calls on the vote on this. I'm going to write

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-20 Thread Ning Wang
+1 On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:26 PM Nicholas Nezis wrote: > I like those options. > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > > > Let's wait 3 more days for anyone to give input. Then we can start a > vote > > to make a final decision on which containers for us to support. Keep

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-20 Thread Nicholas Nezis
I like those options. On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > Let's wait 3 more days for anyone to give input. Then we can start a vote > to make a final decision on which containers for us to support. Keep in > mind that even though we do need to plan for Python3 support

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-20 Thread Josh Fischer
Let's wait 3 more days for anyone to give input. Then we can start a vote to make a final decision on which containers for us to support. Keep in mind that even though we do need to plan for Python3 support (There is work in progress now) we do not need it as of yet. - Josh On Wed, May 20,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-20 Thread thinker0
My experience is mainly for CentOS 7, so I think it would be nice if it was included. 2020년 5월 21일 (목) 오전 9:56, Josh Fischer 님이 작성: > Well thought out Windham. I like how you narrowed the criteria down to > Debian10/CentOS7(depending on PY3 support) thinking about overall support > and what

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Ning Wang
Good reasoning! Thanks! On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM Windham Wong wrote: > My experience is that, people tends to pick their container image OS based > on few criterias only: > 1) image size, alpine always win, then debian/centos and 3rd is > ubuntu/centos. alpine is always the smallest but

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Windham Wong
My experience is that, people tends to pick their container image OS based on few criterias only: 1) image size, alpine always win, then debian/centos and 3rd is ubuntu/centos. alpine is always the smallest but not much library provided and require to compile manually. debian is always good

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Josh Fischer
Hi All, I think using CentOS and either Debian or Ubuntu is a good idea. I would pick Debian over Ubuntu for the reason that Nick pointed out in a previous email of DNS issues in Kubernetes. I"ve copy and pasted a section of Nick's previous email. ### Start I've run into issues with Ubuntu

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Ning Wang
Yeah. For binary release, the license is a huge factor. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:32 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > Hi All, > > When it comes to choosing the official Apache Docker image for Heron we > have to think of the licensing issues first. Everything that is installed > into the container at

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Ning Wang
Good to know! Thx. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:12 PM H W wrote: > We use Centos 7 as well. > > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM Nicholas Nezis > wrote: > > > Some thoughts I'd like to add to the discussion: > > > > Debian and Ubuntu are somewhat similar. Would it make sense to pick one > of > >

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-18 Thread Ning Wang
A checklist of things to check could be great. We should create two, one for source release and one for binary release. It is agood point that Debian and Ubuntu are similar, so CentOS might give us more coverage. Between Debian and Ubuntu, my personal vote might be slightly towards Ubuntu because

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-17 Thread Josh Fischer
Hi All, When it comes to choosing the official Apache Docker image for Heron we have to think of the licensing issues first. Everything that is installed into the container at build time with the exception of the "FROM" statement in the Dockerfile must be ALv2 compatible. OpenJDK is under GPLv2

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-17 Thread H W
We use Centos 7 as well. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM Nicholas Nezis wrote: > Some thoughts I'd like to add to the discussion: > > Debian and Ubuntu are somewhat similar. Would it make sense to pick one of > those and pair with Centos? > > I've run into issues with Ubuntu images having DNS

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-17 Thread Nicholas Nezis
Some thoughts I'd like to add to the discussion: Debian and Ubuntu are somewhat similar. Would it make sense to pick one of those and pair with Centos? I've run into issues with Ubuntu images having DNS issues in Kubernetes. https://github.com/kubernetes/kubeadm/issues/787 Ubuntu 14.04 should

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-17 Thread Ning Wang
That is a good point. We need to adjust the OS version accordingly too. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:28 AM Windham Wong wrote: > > debian 10 has no python 2.7 support. Ubuntu 16.04 has no python 3.7+ dev > library support. hope this helps > -- > Sent from myMail for Android Sunday, 17 May 2020,

Re: [DISCUSSION] Docker OS support

2020-05-17 Thread Windham Wong
debian 10 has no python 2.7 support. Ubuntu 16.04 has no python 3.7+ dev library support. hope this helps -- Sent from myMail for Android Sunday, 17 May 2020, 11:34AM +08:00 from Ning Wang wangnin...@gmail.com : >Hi, > >We have talked about it a few times in different places. Let's make a