Re: [PATCH] some more URL test -- take 2

2002-08-30 Thread Jacek Prucia
[...] +// this schouldn't be hardcoded, but... :) C-style comments please: /* this shouldn't be hardcoded, but... :) */ Sorry. Gotta read StyleGuide again ;) [...] +apr_file_printf (local_stderr, Misformed URL -- auth data schould be outisde URL -- please see docs.\n);

authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Since no one had any feedback to the earlier posts about splitting the auth modules into authn/authz, I decided to just call it authn (old auth) and authz (what Dirk called access). http://www.apache.org/~jerenkrantz/new-aaa/aaa-authn-authz-split.tar.gz

Re: 2.0.40 (UNIX), mysterious SSL connections to self

2002-08-30 Thread Peter Van Biesen
I had the same problem, after I did this correction, no more error messages ! You have my vote to add this trick to the recommendations ! Peter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd bet that this is idle server maintenance (taking down a child process which isn't necessary). The non-SSL path

mod_deflate in 2.0.40

2002-08-30 Thread Kris Verbeeck
Hi, The 2.0.39 code: if ((r-content_type == NULL || strncmp(r-content_type, text/html, 9)) apr_table_get(r-subprocess_env, gzip-only-text/html)) { ap_remove_output_filter(f); return ap_pass_brigade(f-next, bb); } says 'if we have a response with a content-type

Re: [PROPOSAL] Move AUTH_LDAP to /experimental (was: authentication rewrite)

2002-08-30 Thread Jeff Trawick
Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that 2.0.40 has been released and we are in development of .41 and the fact that there has been a proposal for re-architecting the AUTH modules, I would like to propose that we move AUTH_LDAP out of it's own project and into experimental. This

Re: apachectl and options take 2

2002-08-30 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:39:35PM -0400, Dave Hill wrote: If I am outvoted on the env veriable (and so far it is 2 against me :-) That is, three: count me in. I dislike the magic environment changes (unless they are at least printed out, so that I see what happens), and I also prefer a

[PATCH] Re: mod_deflate in 2.0.40

2002-08-30 Thread Kris Verbeeck
Hi again, After testing I discovered that some more changes were needed to get it to work. Patch has been attached. This patch should still have the behaviour of enabling compression when gzip-only-text/html is set to something other than 1. It will also enable compression if

Re: El-Kabong -- HTML Parser

2002-08-30 Thread Ben Laurie
Jim Jagielski wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will make one exception to that statement. If it lands inside of APR-util, under the XML directory, and it is made to work with the XML parser, I can accept that landing spot. As it fits in closer with our goals (I think). Jim, I can't decide

Re: [PATCH] ab.c gnuplot starttime truncation fix

2002-08-30 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:49:27PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Thu Aug 29 12:29:31 20010306205713627580 54 54 0 It's truncating the year. Thanks, committed. Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Fujitsu Siemens Fon: +49-89-636-46021, FAX:

Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread John K. Sterling
-- Original Message -- Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:49:14 -0700 From: Aaron Bannert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: authn/authz split Do you think this new feature is well-defined enough to warrant a new revision number? I'd like to see us start

ThreadsPerChild default in mpm_winnt

2002-08-30 Thread Joshua Slive
I was just trying to correct the docs for ThreadLimit and ThreadsPerChild to have the correct defaults for mpm_winnt, and I ran into a little confusion. From a very quick reading, it appears that the mpm_default.h for mpm_winnt is stolen directly from an MPM that has min/maxsparechild

Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:48 AM 8/30/2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Since no one had any feedback to the earlier posts about splitting the auth modules into authn/authz, I decided to just call it authn (old auth) and authz (what Dirk called access).

Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread rbb
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 01:48 AM 8/30/2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Since no one had any feedback to the earlier posts about splitting the auth modules into authn/authz, I decided to just call it authn (old auth) and authz (what Dirk called access).

2.0/2.1 split was Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:54:45AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It's time for a 2.1-dev tree, if we want to be playing with new ideas, guys. If they test out clean and don't break compatibility [in any significant way] then they can be backported to 2.0. I dislike backporting things.

Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:09 AM 8/30/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: ... Now that it's GA, we should really be treating the 2.0 tree with the same respect and caution we use on the 1.3 tree. It's time for a 2.1-dev tree, if we want to be playing with new

Re: [PATCH] Re: mod_deflate in 2.0.40

2002-08-30 Thread Ian Holsman
Thanks Kris. I've applied your change.

Re: 2.0/2.1 split?

2002-08-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:43 AM 8/30/2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:54:45AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It's time for a 2.1-dev tree, if we want to be playing with new ideas, guys. If they test out clean and don't break compatibility [in any significant way] then they can

RE: ThreadsPerChild default in mpm_winnt

2002-08-30 Thread Bill Stoddard
Check out the commit I just made. Not complete but better.. Bill I was just trying to correct the docs for ThreadLimit and ThreadsPerChild to have the correct defaults for mpm_winnt, and I ran into a little confusion. From a very quick reading, it appears that the mpm_default.h for

Moving AUTH_LDAP to /experimental

2002-08-30 Thread Brad Nicholes
It appears that there is enough consensus to warrant moving AUTH_LDAP into /experimental. I am planning on making the move by the end of the day (8/30). I am planning on flattening out the directory structure and putting all of the source for both mod_auth_ldap and util_ldap into

2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Okay, now that OtherBill weighed in, I guess I'd like to start on the 2.1 branch. Now, how to achieve this? I think housing a branch under the httpd-2.0 CVS repository isn't ideal for several reasons: - As OtherBill pointed out, HEAD must remain 2.0. - Our past strategy seems to have been that

Re: Moving AUTH_LDAP to /experimental

2002-08-30 Thread Joshua Slive
Brad Nicholes wrote: Is it appropriate to place the docs for an experimental module in /docs/manual/mod Yes. They'll need to be converted to XML, but you can just drop them in for now if you don't have time to do that. and the sample .conf in /docs/conf No, I don't think we want to

RE: 2.0/2.1 split?

2002-08-30 Thread Mladen Turk
-Original Message- From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2.0/2.1 split? I don't think we have enough -user- community to continue development on any Apache 2.x. UNLESS we reconsider what

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: And, I'd like to seriously consider using Subversion rather than CVS. To me, it makes a lot of sense to switch to Subversion now rather than later. If we do start on a model where we 'branch early and often,' Subversion can

Re: 2.0/2.1 split was Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:43:33AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I dislike backporting things. I think we all need to be on the 'same version.' Heck, we have committers who refuse to use 2.0 (it's not portable). If we go to 2.1, then I want to see 2.0 closed for anything other than

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:04:06PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: The Apache project's dislike of branching seems slightly odd to me given that it seems to work quite effectively over long periods of time in the BSD projects. +1 This is not everyone here, only a vocal minority. I am totally in

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: - As OtherBill pointed out, HEAD must remain 2.0. Maybe HEAD should be the development trunk, while we branch off minor (and patch) revisions for stabalization. Like this: HEAD | HTTPD_2_0 | / |

Re: 2.0/2.1 split was Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:17:52AM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: No, that's exactly the problem we have with 1.3 right now. There *are* people who are willing to backport fixes and even features to the 1.3 tree, it's only a faction of the group here that *doesn't* want that to happen. I see no

Antw: Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Schild
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.08.2002 19:20:58 On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:04:06PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: The Apache project's dislike of branching seems slightly odd to me given that it seems to work quite effectively over long periods of time in the BSD projects. +1 This is not everyone here, only a

Re: Antw: Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Andre Schild wrote: +1 for branches And consider naming the next repository 3.x ;-) +1 :) -aaron

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Marc Slemko
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: - As OtherBill pointed out, HEAD must remain 2.0. Maybe HEAD should be the development trunk, while we branch off minor (and patch) revisions for stabalization. HEAD needs to be

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:27:18AM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: - As OtherBill pointed out, HEAD must remain 2.0. Maybe HEAD should be the development trunk, while we branch off minor (and patch) revisions for stabalization.

Re: 2.0/2.1 split was Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Brian Pane
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:17:52AM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: No, that's exactly the problem we have with 1.3 right now. There *are* people who are willing to backport fixes and even features to the 1.3 tree, it's only a faction of the group here that *doesn't* want

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: (leaving 2.0 as head, so nobody following older checkout instructions to grab the now-current version have a 'surprize' in store.) I tend to find myself agreeing with him on this. As Marc pointed out, that won't work with CVS. And, because I

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread rbb
[...] Look at all of the repositories we created that are still left around: apache-1.2 apache-1.3 apache-apr apache-nspr httpd-2.0 The apache-apr and apache-nspr repositories were fairly short-lived. I wasn't around when they were created, so perhaps the intention

Re: Moving AUTH_LDAP to /experimental

2002-08-30 Thread Brad Nicholes
Joshua, I have moved the LDAP modules back into /experimental. I also moved the files mod_auth_ldap.html and mod_ldap.html into /manual/mod. These html files were orignally pulled from the CVS attic so I would expect that they are fairly old. The content is still valid but I am sure that

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:27:18AM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: - As OtherBill pointed out, HEAD must remain 2.0. Maybe HEAD should be the development trunk, while we branch off minor (and patch) revisions for stabalization.

Re: 2.1 repository?

2002-08-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:04:06PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:47:28AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: And, I'd like to seriously consider using Subversion rather than CVS. To me, it makes a lot of sense to switch to Subversion now rather than later. If we do

what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:00:49AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: ... I honestly don't care where this ends up. It just needs to get in to our tree somewhere. The aaa code is broken. It needs to be fixed (and I believe the patches we already have start the process).

RE: 2.0/2.1 split?

2002-08-30 Thread Günter Knauf
Seems that everyone is killing his brains out, but we still have only 6500 upgrades from 1.3.x. One of them is the guy from Germany that is running 2.0.18 for more than a year. sure; and this will probably never change till the Apache2 APIs become somewhat more stabilized. What I mean is that

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/docs/manual/platform netware.html

2002-08-30 Thread Joshua Slive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bnicholes2002/08/30 13:46:55 Modified:docs/manual/platform netware.html Log: Fixing up the broken links Sorry, I probably missed fixing those when I moved platform docs into a subdirectory. But your fix is not really the best, because now these

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Ian Holsman
Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:00:49AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: ... I honestly don't care where this ends up. It just needs to get in to our tree somewhere. The aaa code is broken. It needs to be fixed (and I believe the patches we already have start

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Ian Holsman wrote: this talk of 2.1/branching etc is very premature. what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree Agreed. --Cliff

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ian Holsman wrote: what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree ++1 -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread rbb
++1. Ryan On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: Ian Holsman wrote: what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree ++1 -- ___ Ryan Bloom

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Marc Slemko
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Ian Holsman wrote: exactly, this talk of 2.1/branching etc is very premature. if you think your going to destablize the tree, then do your changes on a copy of the file.. and when your done just overwrite the old one. In preference to doing that, just create a

Re: 2.0/2.1 split was Re: authn/authz split

2002-08-30 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I don't think we have enough of a community to continue active development on two separate (but similar) trees. I don't want to start 2.1 and still see everyone adding features to 2.0. -- justin Why not do a tiny temporary branch just for

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Ian Holsman
Marc Slemko wrote: On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Ian Holsman wrote: exactly, this talk of 2.1/branching etc is very premature. if you think your going to destablize the tree, then do your changes on a copy of the file.. and when your done just overwrite the old one. In preference to doing that,

Antw: RE: 2.0/2.1 split?

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Schild
I think this is an important fact which then stops many users from updating to Apache2 because of missing their favorite modules... All platforms which mainly use binary distributions such as Win32 and Netware are affected... As we are using Apache 2.x on Win32 and Linux I'm just affected by

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:35:59PM -0700, Ian Holsman wrote: EXACTLY. branch your code, make it work, merge it back. rinse repeat. what could be simpler than this ? as long as your merge is done quickly (1-2 weeks) and is well-defined you should be good to go. Um, in this case, the code

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:22 PM 8/30/2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: Ian Holsman wrote: what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree ++1 So... for the next couple months, we grind new ideas and development to a halt (as things were when I got here in the spring of

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:28 PM 8/30/2002, Marc Slemko wrote: On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Ian Holsman wrote: exactly, this talk of 2.1/branching etc is very premature. if you think your going to destablize the tree, then do your changes on a copy of the file.. and when your done just overwrite the old one. In

Re: what's the hubbub? (was: Re: 2.0/2.1 split)

2002-08-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 04:22 PM 8/30/2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: Ian Holsman wrote: what we need most is a stable tree for a couple of months not spliting out to a 2.1 tree ++1 So... for the next couple months, we grind new ideas and development to a halt (as things

Re: 2.0/2.1 split?

2002-08-30 Thread alex
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:10:27AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I don't think we have enough -user- community to continue development on any Apache 2.x. UNLESS we reconsider what we are doing wrong. Breaking our users on every bugfix/point release would be a good start. Seeing the

perchild on Darwin, hmmm

2002-08-30 Thread Jim Jagielski
Except for the poll.h header line, perchild compiled quite nicely on Darwin (Jaguar - 10.2). Also confirmed that it serves pages. Have *NOT* yet checked to see if the perchild specific goodies actually work yet. Next on the list :) Wish there were at least 5 hours more per day... ;) --

Re: perchild on Darwin, hmmm

2002-08-30 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: Wish there were at least 5 hours more per day... ;) Dood, I'm counting on 8. ;)

Re: perchild on Darwin, hmmm

2002-08-30 Thread rbb
That is awesome! The code is REALLY crufty still, but it would be great to get more eys on it. Fair warning, it is REALLY fragile still. Happy hacking. :-) Ryan On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: Except for the poll.h header line, perchild compiled quite nicely on Darwin

[PATCH] If-None-Match requests always return 304 with FileETag Nonedirective

2002-08-30 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, You can find further details on the problem in the report I filed in Bug 12202 (http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12202). The short summary is that if FileETag is set to None, any HTTP request with an If-None-Match header will result incorrectly in a 304 Not Modified