Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Greg Ames wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: The comment about mod_asis was probably unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. We did use mod_asis on daedalus not too long ago, but don't seem to at present. I have no way of knowing how

RE: mod_usertrack bugfix patch

2003-03-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Manni Wood wrote: 1. I looked into the cookie RFC, which refers to the HTTP RFC on what the definition of a quoted value is. Interestingly, a quoted value is not allowed to contain quotes, not even escaped quotes. Can someone correct me on my assumption if I am wrong?

Re: [patch] mod_auth_ldap doesn't effectively use the cache withrequire user User1 User2 .. directives

2003-03-11 Thread Yavor Trapkov
require group works and can replace require user User1 User2 ... if one knows about the problem, but there are at least three things here: - require user User1 User2 ... is a supported option and it has to work properly with the cache - the directive is very convinient and makes the web site

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Astrid [ISO-8859-1] Keßler wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be default. I think of mod_userdir as an additional feature. Based on IRC and mailing

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Joshua Slive wrote: 1. This might be a good opportunity to go through the whole list and see what should be in and out of a default build. For example, mod_expires might be a good addition. Of course, I don't have time to do this myself at the moment, so feel free to

place for suggestions

2003-03-11 Thread Günter Knauf
Hi, I was just asked where a user should send his suggestion for new features he's missing in Apache? Should it go into BugZilla? Guenter.

Re: place for suggestions

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
From: Günter Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was just asked where a user should send his suggestion for new features he's missing in Apache? Should it go into BugZilla? An issue filed in bugzilla and marked as enhancement should be fine IMHO. cheers, Erik Guenter.

Re: out-of-tree apr/apr-util httpd-2.0 (the real 2.0) builds

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I know not everyone monitors CVS logs. I have backported the patch for not-in-srclib/ apr and apr-util trees. Even the in-tree builds however are vulnerable. If those working in the APACHE_2_0_BRANCH would try cvs up and experiment with your preference if

mod_asis (was Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list)

2003-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Greg Ames wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: The comment about mod_asis was probably unwarranted. I think that there are probably people that use mod_asis. I myself have used it more than once, and I don't get all that tricky with my code. It allows some

Re: out-of-tree apr/apr-util httpd-2.0 (the real 2.0) builds

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I know not everyone monitors CVS logs. I have backported the patch for not-in-srclib/ apr and apr-util trees. Even the in-tree builds however are vulnerable. If those working in the APACHE_2_0_BRANCH would try cvs up and experiment with your preference if

how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Günter Knauf
Hi, just wanted to compile 2.0.45 (need it because of 3rd-party module lower MMN) but I dont know how to get it: - http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/ has only 2.1-dev, but its named 2.0 - http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ also only shows 2.1-dev, but named httpd-2.0 - cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
Not sure about +if (!string || !*string) { +return 1.0f; +} + Why return 1 if passed a NULL?? -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
From: Günter Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, just wanted to compile 2.0.45 (need it because of 3rd-party module lower MMN) but I dont know how to get it: - http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/ has only 2.1-dev, but its named 2.0 - http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ also only shows 2.1-dev, but

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Greg Ames
Astrid Keßler wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status Most users don't know what to do with mod_asis or how to read mod_status. The only active installation of mod_status I've ever seen, has been at beginners first servers.

Re: [PATCH] IPLookups (revisited)

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Chris Monson wrote: I still want to know whether it makes sense to change the entries in proxy_util.c, what does change the entries in proxy_util.c mean? and that requires a little discussion as to whether a request_rec pointer should be required in the ap_get_iplookup_flags function or not.

Re: [PATCH] IPLookups (revisited)

2003-03-11 Thread Bill Stoddard
Bill Stoddard wrote: This function is definitely useful but I'm not too keen on the directive name (but maybe its okay). Maybe something like: EnableIP all|ipv4|ipv6 I'm also wondering if there are any needs/opportunities to control other ipv4 vs ipv6 behaviour of the server? Bill Jeff and I

Re: mod_usertrack bugfix patch

2003-03-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Manni Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] 1. I looked into the cookie RFC, which refers to the HTTP RFC on what the definition of a quoted value is. Interestingly, a quoted value is not allowed to contain quotes, not even escaped quotes. Can someone correct me on my assumption if I am

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 08:31 AM 3/11/2003, Günter Knauf wrote: Hi, just wanted to compile 2.0.45 (need it because of 3rd-party module lower MMN) but I dont know how to get it: - http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/ has only 2.1-dev, but its named 2.0 - http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ also only shows 2.1-dev, but

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Glenn
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:58:58AM -0500, Greg Ames wrote: Astrid Ke?ler wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status Most users don't know what to do with mod_asis or how to read mod_status. The only active installation of mod_status I've

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be default. I think of mod_userdir as an additional feature. Based on IRC and mailing list

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Günter Knauf
Hi, forgot to ask: I assume that apr and apr-util are the same for both trees?? G.

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Thom May
* G?nter Knauf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Hi, forgot to ask: I assume that apr and apr-util are the same for both trees?? yes.

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Günter Knauf wrote: Hi, forgot to ask: I assume that apr and apr-util are the same for both trees?? currently and if you wait a few more minutes until the recent merge of out-of-tree-apr actually works, you can use the same copy of apr with both trees (until 2.1-dev steps up to apr 1.0)

Re: [PATCH] IPLookups (revisited)

2003-03-11 Thread Bill Stoddard
Jeff Trawick wrote: Chris Monson wrote: I still want to know whether it makes sense to change the entries in proxy_util.c, what does change the entries in proxy_util.c mean? and that requires a little discussion as to whether a request_rec pointer should be required in the

Re: out-of-tree apr/apr-util httpd-2.0 (the real 2.0) builds

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Make sure you have my recent (this a.m.) commits to build/.cvsignore configure.in modules/aaa/config.m4 modules/mappers/config9.m4 server/Makefile.in before trying to test this. With those recent commits, it works as well as I have time to test :) Now it is somebody else's turn.

Re: how to get 2.0.45-dev ?

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Gnter Knauf wrote: forgot to ask: I assume that apr and apr-util are the same for both trees?? For now they are, yes.

Re: out-of-tree apr/apr-util httpd-2.0 (the real 2.0) builds

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Jeff Trawick wrote: from the old STATUS entry -* Allow builds to work with out of tree apr and apr-util - buildconf: r1.30 - configure.in: r1.239, r1.240 - +1: thommay, striker, ianh - wrowe (but we must add server/mpm/config.m4 r1.47 to that list) -

2.0.45 Release - When?

2003-03-11 Thread Jess M. Holle
Any ETA on a 2.0.45 release? I asked about a month ago and was told real soon (e.g. in a week). I have to synch to actual released versions and there are a lot of things in 2.0.45 that are of interest (especially surrounding mod_auth_ldap). -- Jess Holle

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I suggest to remove from default: mod_userdir, mod_asis, mod_imap and mod_status I'm not sure about mod_userdir. It's used, yes, but it need not be default. I think of mod_userdir as an

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/server Makefile.in

2003-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Can I ask a stupid question about the fragment below? I was under the impression that libapr.so and libaprutil.so were exported from themselves, not from libhttpd.so. Is that assumption correct? If so, why regen exports.c of libhttpd.so upon changes to libapr/aprutil headers? Bill At 09:41 AM

Re: [PATCH] IPLookups (revisited)

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Monson
what does change the entries in proxy_util.c mean? There are some calls to apr_sockaddr_info_get in proxy_util.c, and I wasn't really sure whether they should be looking at this flag or not. In some cases (where we already have an IP address, etc) it is clearly something that they should

Apache UTF-8

2003-03-11 Thread Juan Rivera
I'm starting to look into what would it takes to support UTF-8 in configuration files. This means modules must have to handle parameters in UTF-8 format. Anybody has any pointers that can help me? I think making Apache UTF-8 compliant will be very helpful. Do you guys agree?

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread André Malo
* Jim Jagielski wrote: Not sure about +if (!string || !*string) { +return 1.0f; +} + Why return 1 if passed a NULL?? Because no supplied qvalue is the same as qvalue = 1. If I'm wrong with that assumption, please correct me. (NULL should never occur anyway, but let's

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
At 7:16 PM +0100 3/11/03, André Malo wrote: * Jim Jagielski wrote: Not sure about +if (!string || !*string) { +return 1.0f; +} + Why return 1 if passed a NULL?? Because no supplied qvalue is the same as qvalue = 1. If I'm wrong with that assumption, please correct me.

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread André Malo
* Jim Jagielski wrote: At 7:16 PM +0100 3/11/03, André Malo wrote: * Jim Jagielski wrote: Not sure about +if (!string || !*string) { +return 1.0f; +} + Why return 1 if passed a NULL?? Because no supplied qvalue is the same as qvalue = 1. If I'm wrong with that

Re: Apache UTF-8

2003-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Win32 and some UTF-8 unicies effectively are, as their file names are all in utf-8. About the only non-ASCII stuff in your .conf file are usually comments and file names and paths, and uri's. There is no translation (and will probably never be) so your httpd.conf should just follow your site

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/build make_nw_export.awk

2003-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Uhmmm... that's exactly what we are trying to avoid. E.g. always provide the symbols to link. Lets say you've build mod_foo, and built it against a debugging build of httpd. Now you go to put it into production (you forget to recompile.) Should you be kicked in the rear for trying? Or should

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/filters mod_deflate.c

2003-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:04 PM 3/11/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ianh2003/03/11 10:04:37 Modified:.Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH CHANGES STATUS docs/manual/mod Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH mod_deflate.xml modules/filters Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH mod_deflate.c Log: Backport

Re: place for suggestions

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Günter Knauf wrote: Hi, I was just asked where a user should send his suggestion for new features he's missing in Apache? Should it go into BugZilla? That is a good place, as it allows other users to vote for the suggestion/defect.

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/filters mod_deflate.c

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Holsman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 12:04 PM 3/11/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ianh2003/03/11 10:04:37 Modified:.Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH CHANGES STATUS docs/manual/mod Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH mod_deflate.xml modules/filters Tag: APACHE_2_0_BRANCH

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/filters mod_deflate.c

2003-03-11 Thread André Malo
* Ian Holsman wrote: [2.0.45] + *) mod_deflate: Extend the DeflateFilterNote directive to + allow accurate logging of the filter's in- and outstream. + [André Malo] ah, although it wasn't voted ... I'd give my late +1 on it. But please keep the changes consistent ;-) nd --

branching -- was (Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/filters mod_deflate.c)

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Holsman
ok.. can someone remind me what we are supposed to do in this situation? Although I dislike putting in 'unvoted' changes into the stable release, I hate having 2 seperate sets of code, with bits pieces of each other in them worse. André Malo wrote: * Ian Holsman wrote: [2.0.45] + *)

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Because no supplied qvalue is the same as qvalue = 1. If I'm wrong with that assumption, please correct me. Is -that- in the standard ? You sure even if it is mixed with entries which have a q? Dw

Re: place for suggestions

2003-03-11 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
Yep, just ask him to search the bugdatabse first and then file a bugreport with severity set to Enhancement. - Original Message - From: Jeff Trawick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: place for suggestions Günter Knauf wrote:

Re: Proposal: Remove mod_imap from default list

2003-03-11 Thread Astrid Keßler
First, I'm talking about changes in 2.1 only. I'm opposed against changing the module status in 1.3 or 2.0, too. :) In this discussion about default modules, I hear three different things: 1) compile a module by default (or what category, e.g most or all) 2) enable a module in the

Re: mod_negotiation: get a rid of atof(3)

2003-03-11 Thread André Malo
* Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Because no supplied qvalue is the same as qvalue = 1. If I'm wrong with that assumption, please correct me. Is -that- in the standard ? You sure even if it is mixed with entries which have a q? RFC 2616, 14.1 (Accept:)states: Each media-range MAY be

AuthLDAPCertDBPath ???

2003-03-11 Thread Trevor Hurst
Well, after successfully compiling auth_ldap with the OpenLDAP libs I found that it doesn't jive well with our Netscape LDAP server.. So... I finally rebuilt with the Netscape4-LDAP-SDK libs.. Since then I received the following error: [Tue Mar 11 00:42:19 2003] [warn] [client

Re: AuthLDAPCertDBPath ???

2003-03-11 Thread Brad Nicholes
Yes. In order to support SSL on multiple platforms, a more generic directive was required. To specify a cert7.db file you will need to use the directives: LDAPTrustedCA path to cert7.db LDAPTRustedCAType CERT7_DB_PATH The most recent documentation page for mod_ldap contains the description of

Re: AuthLDAPCertDBPath ???

2003-03-11 Thread Trevor Hurst
Okay, I think I've found the spot in ssl.conf but when I point the commands at /usr/local/apache2/conf/ssl.crt/cert7.db and try starting up the server it complains with: [error] Unable to configure verify locations for client authentication and will not start. Here's the entry in ssl.conf that

any way for a module to call (mod_access) int check_dir_access(request_rec*rec)?

2003-03-11 Thread Chris Knight
I am writing a module that would very much like to find out if a particular user has access to a particular URI (not the URI that got to my module). Is there any way through an inter-module framework or the like to call this function from within my module? I'd rather not formulate another HTTP

Re: any way for a module to call (mod_access) int check_dir_access(request_rec*rec)?

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Chris Knight wrote: I am writing a module that would very much like to find out if a particular user has access to a particular URI (not the URI that got to my module). Is there any way through an inter-module framework or the like to call this function from within my

Re: any way for a module to call (mod_access) int check_dir_access(request_rec* rec)?

2003-03-11 Thread André Malo
* Chris Knight wrote: I am writing a module that would very much like to find out if a particular user has access to a particular URI (not the URI that got to my module). Is there any way through an inter-module framework or the like to call this function from within my module? I'd rather not

Re: AuthLDAPCertDBPath ???

2003-03-11 Thread Trevor Hurst
Unfortunately that doesn't work either: LDAPTrustedCA /usr/local/apache2/conf/ssl.crt/cert7.db LDAPTRustedCAType cert7.db startup error: Syntax error on line 1073 of /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf: Invalid command 'LDAPTrustedCA', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module

any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
any experiences good or bad to share? ISTR that the default thread library changed with Solaris 9... did that expose any glitches wth worker?

RE: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Brian Pane
Not with Solaris 9 itself, but we tried worker with the new thread library (which has a 1:1 mapping of user-level to kernel-level threads) under Solaris 8. Functionally, it worked as well as the old M:N thread library. I think the 1:1 library was slightly slower, but it I can't remember for sure.

Re: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 12/3/03 1:02, Jeff Trawick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any experiences good or bad to share? ISTR that the default thread library changed with Solaris 9... did that expose any glitches wth worker? None whatsoever so far... Not live yet, but the development environment runs already on 9,

Re: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Ian Holsman
we did some testing ~1 year ago with the different thread library on solaris 8 and didn't notice any real significant difference, libmtmalloc.so on the other hand was a pretty big win. Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 12/3/03 1:02, Jeff Trawick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any experiences good or bad

Re: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Ian Holsman wrote: we did some testing ~1 year ago with the different thread library on solaris 8 and didn't notice any real significant difference, libmtmalloc.so on the other hand was a pretty big win. Were the mtmalloc tests before or after the big bucket allocator

RE: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Brian Pane
Cliff Woolley wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Ian Holsman wrote: we did some testing ~1 year ago with the different thread library on solaris 8 and didn't notice any real significant difference, libmtmalloc.so on the other hand was a pretty big win. Were the mtmalloc tests before or after

RE: any Solaris 9 users out there with worker MPM?

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Brian Pane wrote: setting a breakpoint on malloc), the httpd almost never had to call malloc once the first few requests filled up the freelist with reusable buckets. That was the intention at least. mtmalloc will help, though, if you're calling any third party

[PATCH] get 'shmht' to not dump core

2003-03-11 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Hi, I was trying to debug the shmht caching, and got the following SEGV. Thr problem was also pointed out in http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17864.. I've attached a patch, to fix the problem. (With this patch, we'll be in sync with the ssl_util_table.c from mod_ssl for

Re: [PATCH] get 'shmht' to not dump core

2003-03-11 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: I've attached a patch, to fix the problem. (With this patch, we'll be in sync with the ssl_util_table.c from mod_ssl for 1.3.x.) ++1... by all means commit to 2.1-dev asap. :)