[native-lang] Re: [project leads] Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead
Hello everyone, I just wanted to clarify things (again). I am going to leave the project / we, the founders of the Document Foundation, are going to leave the project at some given time and have every intention to keep things clear and clean. But I/we are not going to be thrown out by people who just feel they can get away with zero formality, and zero explanation, and by ignoring our very own guidelines. Is that clear to everyone? I'm not insane, I just want, just like the people from Oracle, a bit of respect. Thanks, Charles. Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:41:03 +0700, Javier Sola jav...@khmeros.info a écrit : Speaking as a simple language team leader and community member, the situation seems to be getting complicated. This is not a game for us. We - in Cambodia - have convinced the government to change to OOo, and we cannot run any risks of not having a good product tomorrow. We still do not know what will happen with LO, and we do not know what will happen with OOo. Our only choice is to go with both. We are happy to send our translations to both OOo a LO. We are not MOVING to LO, we are ALSO supporting a second initiative, and plan to stay as part of both communities. To me it is a bit confusing -specially now at the beginning - that the person who has asked me to join the LO project is also the lead of the OOo NLC. While a good part of the communities will be the same, it seems logical to me that the leaders should be different from each other, as they will (naturally) be putting their energy only into one of the projects. I will be happy to work with Charles in LO, because we both want it to succeed, and I will be happy working with Louis in OOo, because we both want it to succeed. All the accusation and name calling that are coming out are hurting both projects, as they tend to reflect negatively more on the perceptions that others have of the writer than of the target. The sooner it stops and the projects work independently, the easier that it will be to collaborate in the future. Cheers, Javier Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Louis, Le Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:32:28 -0400, Louis Suárez-Potts louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com a écrit : All, I have asked that Charles Schulz recuse himself from his role as lead of the NLC category because of the confusion his new role outside of OpenOffice.org would produce in the minds of contributors and users. I have not received an answer, so I must presume one, that he would act with good grace and recognize the impossibility of his dual roles. I am afraid you are presuming the wrong way. I am sorry not to have given you an answer earlier publicly, but I am not going away. Your takeover of my position is simply not right, does not match any of our guidelines and implies a lot of nebulous things: confusion with my new role? Please define why my new role would confuse the OpenOffice.org community. I think my new role is quite clear; the fact that I will eventually leave, on my own accord and terms should also be clear. Louis, I am not employed by Oracle: you cannot fire me nor anyone like you're trying to do. This is extravagant and outlines a deep misunderstanding of community management. As lead I will continue to do what I normally do as the co-lead of the NLC—the admin, policy, outreach—plus the engagement of new members interested in setting up projects in their native language. Only, I'll do this now as Lead of the category. (There is no real apparatus for formal vote here….) There might not be any, but I'd be interested to know what other think about both the legitimity of your move, let alone of its legality. And there is a fair amount that does need to be done, as OOo is gaining enormous momentum around the world and as you, the NLC projects, are elemental to that! Sorry Louis, no pun intended, but... who are you talking about? This is becoming pathetic. Charles-H. Schulz. best, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: project_leads-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: project_leads-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: project_leads-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: project_leads-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
[native-lang] Re: [project leads] Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead
Charles-H. Schulz schreef: Hello everyone, I just wanted to clarify things (again). I am going to leave the project / we, the founders of the Document Foundation, are going to leave the project at some given time and have every intention to keep things clear and clean. But I/we are not going to be thrown out by people who just feel they can get away with zero formality, and zero explanation, and by ignoring our very own guidelines. Didn't Louis already explain that that is not what's happening? Is that clear to everyone? I'm not insane, I just want, just like the people from Oracle, a bit of respect. The way I see it, you're actually getting that, while not exactly trying hard to earn it. Please try to be rational and keep following that intention to keep things clear and clean. -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer -*- nl.openoffice.org -*- http://www.opentaal.org -*- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
[native-lang] Reducing translation load (was Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead)
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 12:09 +0200, Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com An: dev@native-lang.openoffice.org Also, I would like to say that it has been very hard to find translator for ooo, because it is so huge. I would like to suggest that we merge strings with abiword that has been translated already into albanian. Well - if you can ask all the translators of AbiWord to sign the SCA (if policy did not change, then it is still required for OOo localization). I'm afraid you will also sadly find that the overlap will yield at best about 15-20% 100% translated. You would still want to review those. A better approach, which we at Translate.org.za have done in the past is to build a debug build using podebug. This marks all the strings and you can then work out which components are needed for translating Write and focus on those. I haven't done this in a while so I'm not 100% sure that those files are, but it is relatively easy to do. -- Dwayne Bailey Associate Research Director+27 12 460 1095 (w) Translate.org.za ANLoc+27 83 443 7114 (c) Recent blog posts: * Localizing Mac OS X strings files using open source PO editors http://www.translate.org.za/blogs/dwayne/en/content/localizing-mac-os-x-strings-files-using-open-source-po-editors * What's new in Virtaal 0.6.1 * Localisation: How we guess the target translation language in Virtaal Firefox web browser in Afrikaans - http://af.www.mozilla.com/af/ African Network for Localisation (ANLoc) - http://africanlocalisation.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, Original-Nachricht Von: Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com An: dev@native-lang.openoffice.org Also, I would like to say that it has been very hard to find translator for ooo, because it is so huge. I would like to suggest that we merge strings with abiword that has been translated already into albanian. Well - if you can ask all the translators of AbiWord to sign the SCA (if policy did not change, then it is still required for OOo localization). The one main translator, besnik bleta, I am sure he could be conviced to do that. thanks, mike regards, André -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 euro;/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] Re: [project leads] Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead
Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:45:30 +0200, Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl a écrit : Charles-H. Schulz schreef: Hello everyone, I just wanted to clarify things (again). I am going to leave the project / we, the founders of the Document Foundation, are going to leave the project at some given time and have every intention to keep things clear and clean. But I/we are not going to be thrown out by people who just feel they can get away with zero formality, and zero explanation, and by ignoring our very own guidelines. Didn't Louis already explain that that is not what's happening? After we complained heavily, yes. And I don't find his explanation to be satisfactory. For other people (the now former treasurers) things are quite clear and they were asked to resign. Is that clear to everyone? I'm not insane, I just want, just like the people from Oracle, a bit of respect. The way I see it, you're actually getting that, while not exactly trying hard to earn it. Please try to be rational and keep following that intention to keep things clear and clean. Please define how I'm not being rational. In the meantime, and given the fact that we're going nowhere and that the tone is going up, I would like to request that the entire Community Council, given the quite large number of people including every member of the CC who's not working for Oracle who's moving/migrating/staying here but contributing to LibO and moving away/leaving OOo, should resign and that general elections should be conducted (Hint: I won't run this time, for people who still have their doubts). It would show at least some sensitivity to the fact that the OOo project has failed in at least some regard. Best, Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] Change in Lead
Hello Louis, Le Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:50:57 -0400, Louis Suárez-Potts louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com a écrit : Hi Charles, et al., On 2010-10-18, at 05:37 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Louis, Le Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:32:28 -0400, Louis Suárez-Potts louis.suarez-po...@oracle.com a écrit : All, I have asked that Charles Schulz recuse himself from his role as lead of the NLC category because of the confusion his new role outside of OpenOffice.org would produce in the minds of contributors and users. I have not received an answer, so I must presume one, that he would act with good grace and recognize the impossibility of his dual roles. I am afraid you are presuming the wrong way. I'm sorry to read that. I am sorry not to have given you an answer earlier publicly, but I am not going away. ? I didn't ask you to. I asked you to recuse yourself from lead—that is to suspend, temporarily, the duties and title associated with your office—because of the evident conflict of interest your concurrent role as NLC lead and TDF founder presents. I did not, and have not, removed your privileges as lead. Check if you are uncertain. But I do feel, even more, that your current dual roles seriously compromises the legitimacy by which you can effect your OOo role. While I do not necessarily agree on the conflict of interest, I do also believe that my role will need to be clarified: understand by this, I will eventually leave my role as lead of the NLC. Your takeover of my position is simply not right, does Hm. not match any of our guidelines and implies a lot of nebulous things: confusion with my new role? Please define why my new role would confuse the OpenOffice.org community. I think my new role is quite clear; the fact that I will eventually leave, on my own accord and terms should also be clear. I think I've clarified the source of confusion, the effects, too, enough. Your post to the d...@nlc list asking (urging?) members to make further contributions to TDF and LO clearly violated the implicit tenets of our project, and demonstrated a clear conflict of interest. In this case, there are quite several other cases of conflicts of interests not releated to LibreOffice. It's as if a big competitor visited our project, got on our lists, and told everyone to go to MuddleSoft instead of OOo. Wouldn't think it right, would you? It wouldn't, because it would be a competitor. Right now I would not call each other that. Louis, I am not employed by Oracle: you cannot fire me nor anyone like you're trying to do. This is extravagant and outlines a deep misunderstanding of community management. I have not fired you, nor anyone, nor do I have that right, thankfully. The CC can, of course, remove people. But what I did, and did only, was to assume your duties presuming a positive answer to my question. As you've answered in the negative, and you are still lead, this does complicate things a little, and it is something of course, that would and will be, I have no doubt, brought up in the CC meeting next. I have no doubts on this. Charles, no one here in OOo is acting arbitrarily or without accountability. We are interested in demonstrating to the community that what we do is in their behalf, and that as a community, we act in a way that is neither precipitous or irrational, but which has the OOo project community's interests at heart—and that community includes those interested in using OOo in all environments. Put another way: Trust is crucial here. And trust, we have been taught by Foss, is the keystone upon which community is built. Trust is built up by predictable behaviour, by verifiable doings: by intentions manifest in actions whose is evident and not the arbitrary writing of a child who might declare himself one day to be superman just because he wants to. If trust is crucial, and indeed it is, then The Document Foundation is the visible sign the community has lost confidence in the will and ability of Oracle to help us propulse this project in the next decade. There are exceptions, of course. As lead I will continue to do what I normally do as the co-lead of the NLC—the admin, policy, outreach—plus the engagement of new members interested in setting up projects in their native language. Only, I'll do this now as Lead of the category. (There is no real apparatus for formal vote here….) There might not be any, but I'd be interested to know what other think about both the legitimity of your move, let alone of its legality. Of what move? To assume your duties during a time when you've clearly demonstrated that you are perfectly intent on misusing the privileges and authority of your office? That is not something I have demonstrated, I'm sorry. I'm not using neither my privileges nor the authority of my office to do something wrong. I can say: I'm moving
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
Hello Louis, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: I just learned of this site on the ES project and would respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove it, as it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, and to me is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org resources. http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project lists http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his side, see http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=9038 Notice that the original message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu en: last time I checked this, on Sunday. Now the message has changed to Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor de registrarte aqu en: but anyway this is not like http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using OOo resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing list, as said in his original message: facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el nuevo correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en Espanol. Besides this, I find very un-ethical that * while he unilaterally took the decision to put the message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/ * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg and his obvious invitation orignally on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you can read today) I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still tries to travel using OOo reources http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=31039 But this discussion is for another thread... Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
Hello everyone, I think this mail will prove that we can have sometimes no conflict of interest. Wearing my hat of the Document Foundation, I'd like to state the following things: - Everyone, yes, everyone is welcome to join the LibreOffice Project and the Document Foundation. - We, the Document Foundation, have not asked to Alexandro Colorado to put that message on any web page of the OOo ES project. - He and the ES community are welcome to join us, but it is by leaving contributors free to choose their own path and not by forcing them that we work. We believe in freedom, not constraint, and do not wish to see confusion taking place. Wearing my OOo NLC hat: - unilateral actions depriving contributors of the most elementary tools of communication are a very bad thing. While I'm sure some people may disagree, debates and discussions are good, not constraint, one cannot just shut up mailing lists out of the blue. I would like to ask Alexandro, if that's possible to reinstate the mailing lists and their archive. Thank you, Charles-H. Schulz. Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:57:53 -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com a écrit : Hello Louis, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: I just learned of this site on the ES project and would respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove it, as it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, and to me is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org resources. http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project lists http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his side, see http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=9038 Notice that the original message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu en: last time I checked this, on Sunday. Now the message has changed to Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor de registrarte aqu en: but anyway this is not like http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using OOo resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing list, as said in his original message: facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el nuevo correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en Espanol. Besides this, I find very un-ethical that * while he unilaterally took the decision to put the message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/ * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg and his obvious invitation orignally on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you can read today) I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still tries to travel using OOo reources http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=31039 But this discussion is for another thread... Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles-h.sch...@laposte.net wrote: Hello everyone, I think this mail will prove that we can have sometimes no conflict of interest. Wearing my hat of the Document Foundation, I'd like to state the following things: - Everyone, yes, everyone is welcome to join the LibreOffice Project and the Document Foundation. - We, the Document Foundation, have not asked to Alexandro Colorado to put that message on any web page of the OOo ES project. - He and the ES community are welcome to join us, but it is by leaving contributors free to choose their own path and not by forcing them that we work. We believe in freedom, not constraint, and do not wish to see confusion taking place. Wearing my OOo NLC hat: - unilateral actions depriving contributors of the most elementary tools of communication are a very bad thing. While I'm sure some people may disagree, debates and discussions are good, not constraint, one cannot just shut up mailing lists out of the blue. I would like to ask Alexandro, if that's possible to reinstate the mailing lists and their archive. We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. But to say that we were shutting down the lists, well the lists are still running and can still be consulted openly. Thank you, Charles-H. Schulz. Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:57:53 -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com a écrit : Hello Louis, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: I just learned of this site on the ES project and would respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove it, as it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, and to me is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org resources. http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project lists http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his side, see http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=9038 Notice that the original message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu en: last time I checked this, on Sunday. Now the message has changed to Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor de registrarte aqu en: but anyway this is not like http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using OOo resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing list, as said in his original message: facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el nuevo correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en Espanol. Besides this, I find very un-ethical that * while he unilaterally took the decision to put the message on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/ * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg and his obvious invitation orignally on http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you can read today) I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still tries to travel using OOo reources http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=31039 But this discussion is for another thread... Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
Hello * On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 13:37, Alexandro Colorado wrote: We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. misleading? Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu[í] en: the message is very clear: you are working to migrate the OpenOffice.org ES mailing list to the new Document Foundation and LibreOffice mailing lists Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello * On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 13:37, Alexandro Colorado wrote: We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. misleading? Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu[í] en: the message is very clear: you are working to migrate the OpenOffice.org ES mailing list to the new Document Foundation and LibreOffice mailing lists Yes, I agree that the message is very clear and not misleading. We should let people take their own decisions. Thanks, Ariel, for pointing this. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
Hello Jesús, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 15:06, Jesús Corrius wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello * On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 13:37, Alexandro Colorado wrote: We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. misleading? Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu[í] en: the message is very clear: you are working to migrate the OpenOffice.org ES mailing list to the new Document Foundation and LibreOffice mailing lists Yes, I agree that the message is very clear and not misleading. We should let people take their own decisions. Thanks, Ariel, for pointing this. well, I just pointed this that was very obvious for us who speak Spanish. Please notice (before I'll be flamed in the OOo ES mailing list by telling me I have something personal against Alexandro), that it wasn't me who told Louis about this problem: IMO this should have been discussed in our ES community. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [native-lang] es: Lista de Correo
2010/10/19 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello * On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 13:37, Alexandro Colorado wrote: We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. misleading? Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de registrarte aqu[í] en: the message is very clear: you are working to migrate the OpenOffice.org ES mailing list to the new Document Foundation and LibreOffice mailing lists Yes, I agree that the message is very clear and not misleading. We should let people take their own decisions. That is not the message anymore thought. Thanks, Ariel, for pointing this. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
