Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2018, 12:41 -0700 schrieb Chuck Davis: > > Quite right and eloquently put, Scott. > > > > If people don't want the feature-set of JDK9 continue using NB8.2. For > > those of us who want the feature-set (in

Re: Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

2018-08-21 Thread Tim Boudreau
Describe more how git fits into the picture please. If you're just looking for a UI to show sets of files that were edited, and maybe group diff, that doesn't seem like it would need git. Or you want to somehow make local history contiguous with git history? (My intuition says this would be a

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Scott Palmer
> On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > I could be wrong but I think there's a lot of confusion about what JDK > support means in relation to Apache NetBeans. Got it. Using NetBeans 9+ to develop applications that require JDK 10 works now, and support for building

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Chuck Davis
With enough work NB could be written in assembly and produce anything but the burden to do it would not be worth the cost probably. There is such a huge architectural difference between JDK8 and JDK11 that to expect developers to accommodate both is unrealistic -- at least is seems many

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I could be wrong but I think there's a lot of confusion about what JDK support means in relation to Apache NetBeans. Here's the tentative release cycle: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap In the upcoming release of Apache NetBeans, scheduled for

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Bläsing < mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote: > Matthias, being happy, that his employer finally got Java 8 into > production... > Seriously, welcome to my world. And we're still not 100%, we still have stuff running on Glassfish 3, for example. With a

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Chuck Davis wrote: > Quite right and eloquently put, Scott. > > If people don't want the feature-set of JDK9 continue using NB8.2. For > those of us who want the feature-set (in particular HTTPClient) of JDK11 we > need NB11 sooner rather than later. We need it

Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-21 Thread Josh Juneau
Great idea! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Hi all, > > In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on > uploading the recording

Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-21 Thread Carl Mosca
Cool. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > In this context, I mentioned the 'managing for happiness' concept today in > the virtual meetup -- especially the idea of everyone having 100 points to > distribute to those who've been very helpful/productive in a particular >

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2018, 12:41 -0700 schrieb Chuck Davis: > Quite right and eloquently put, Scott. > > If people don't want the feature-set of JDK9 continue using NB8.2. For > those of us who want the feature-set (in particular HTTPClient) of JDK11 we > need NB11 sooner rather than

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Chuck Davis
Quite right and eloquently put, Scott. If people don't want the feature-set of JDK9 continue using NB8.2. For those of us who want the feature-set (in particular HTTPClient) of JDK11 we need NB11 sooner rather than later. We need it to work with the OpenJFX11 modules in Maven central (which NB9

Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
In this context, I mentioned the 'managing for happiness' concept today in the virtual meetup -- especially the idea of everyone having 100 points to distribute to those who've been very helpful/productive in a particular month (and the one with most points end of the month being the 'Apache

Re: Apache website PR 76 - Download section

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks, merged! You should see it not too long from now and if you'd like to make further changes, please just provide more PRs! Gj On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:38 PM, Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS wrote: > Hi all, > > I have opened a pull request >

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Scott Palmer
> On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Will Hartung wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Scott Palmer wrote: > >> This is not quite right. Anyone using the NB platform is not forced to >> upgrade the platform they base their application on. The only thing that >> happens is that the

Apache website PR 76 - Download section

2018-08-21 Thread Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS
Hi all, I have opened a pull request https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/76 that adds a download section as discussed in todays meeting. Thanks *Alexius Diakogiannis, CSM* *Archer / Linux Lover / Java Geek* *About me*: https://about.me/diakogiannis/ *Linked In*:

Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

2018-08-21 Thread mark stephens
Hi everyone, I have NetBeans running from IDE and exploring how I can improve the local history. At the moment, I am trying to hack in some of the git code so I can see if I can get a local history with multiple files (my top if only NetBeans did this feature). I cannot persuade my

Re: nb-javac source / signing

2018-08-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 10:24, Dusan Balek wrote: > the current nb-javac sources can be found in the > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/nb-java-x repository. To build nb-javac, use > the NetBeans J2SE project located in make/langtools/netbeans/nb-javac > subdirectory. > As for the particular the

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 15:22, Will Hartung wrote: > But there's a difference between being able to be built on the latest JDK, > and requiring the latest JDK to build/run. +1 > Regarding the LTS, while there may not be a (free) release from Oracle, > it's still a symbolic line in the sand of

Re: Heads up: #536: Per-cluster repository layout

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It was inevitable, another Wiki! This one is for signing up to the per-cluster repository reorganization process: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Per-cluster+repository+layout Gj On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > > I doubt it is related. I don't

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Scott Palmer wrote: > This is not quite right. Anyone using the NB platform is not forced to > upgrade the platform they base their application on. The only thing that > happens is that the platform code base can hold them back as well from > building with new

Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...Notes... Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate, without having to listen to long recordings. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Good idea, thanks. Notes: 1. Introductions. 2. Status -- we discussed and looked at the following: - https://netbeans.apache.org/ - https://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review -

Re: Heads up: #536: Per-cluster repository layout

2018-08-21 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
> I doubt it is related. I don't see the problem in Apache NetBeans 9.0. > Neither in today's build. Sorry, probably, something was broken in my environment... I deleted users directory and cache directory, then ran IDE. Now, there is no problem. > And, sorry, I was wrong Need not to say sorry.

Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:45 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...we discussed current status of Apache NetBeans, followed by some new ideas > and discussions:.. Are you planning to share written notes as well? It would be good to have an overview here of what was discussed as well as any

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Scott Palmer
The JDK required to run NB should be entirely independent of what JDK you can build apps for when using NB. “...when NB starts to require a specific Java Version, implicitly the NB PLATFORM will have the same requirements, and that "all of a sudden" has impact on projects outside of NB proper.”

Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's the recording (audio only) of the 2nd virtual meetup, held today -- we discussed current status of Apache NetBeans, followed by some new ideas and discussions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ72aZqwGec Gj On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <

Re: Heads up: #536: Per-cluster repository layout

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I doubt it is related. I don't see the problem in Apache NetBeans 9.0. Neither in today's build. And, sorry, I was wrong -- you don't need the latest build to create NetBeans to use it to build NetBeans. Simply the officially released Apache NetBeans 9 is fine, the code to recognize the new

"Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for those who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 18:39, Svata Dedic wrote: > we / you should also consider, before dropping JDK8 as a runtime > platform, that applications that build ON TOP of NetBeans platform may > have a way conservative requirements than developers who strive to use > the bleeding technology edge.

Re: NB 9 Platform Maven arifacts

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The problem here is that netbeans.org has not yet been donated to Apache by Oracle hence org.netbeans does not belong to Apache hence org.netbeans cannot be used for Maven archetypes. So, we need to wait for the brand/domain donation to be completed before going further with this -- and there's

Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Reminder: this will take place an hour from now. :-) Gj On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Two weeks ago we had our first virtual Apache NetBeans meeting, open to > anyone and everyone involved or interested in being

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's another perspective: the OracleLabs organization works on GraalVM ( http://graalvm.org