Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
An interesting point: in addition to bundling the newest version of VisualVM as part of GraalVM, OracleLabs also provides a branded version of NetBeans called IGV, which is customized for the needs of GraalVM language developers and power users. IGV is as part of the GraalVM EE download. Take a

Re: Profiler crash for NB10

2018-11-14 Thread Emilian Bold
PS: @Peter: if you could also make a recompiled .DLL available together with the branch it would be great. --emi On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:59 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > I assume you mean the dependency from profiler/lib.profiler/external? > It's ok to download that. The license is also OK

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread S. M. Ataur Rahman
I am just gonna put my opinion here in two line. I support the idea of two major and two optional release a year. I want to focus on updating my code, not IDE.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 22:20 Jiří Kovalský I am glad to see that except two respondents the vast majority likes the > proposal for only two mandatory major (with NetCAT programs) and two > optional minor releases per year. > You could equally say that a vast majority of committers on dev@ wanted

debugging netbeans

2018-11-14 Thread joe schmo
Hello, Can someone tell me how to "turn on" and configure logging for the netbeans-incubator code? Thanks BC

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Jiří Kovalský
I am glad to see that except two respondents the vast majority likes the proposal for only two mandatory major (with NetCAT programs) and two optional minor releases per year. The main argument against this release scheme, if I followed the discussion correctly, is that frequent (quarterly or

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It's a tough situation -- and ideally Apache NetBeans would be bundled with one or more of the OpenJDK distributions, though maybe that's not something for us to decide, but it should be a need that one or more OpenJDK distributions should feel -- the need to provide free and open source tools

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Christian Bourque
Thanks! On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 15:08 Kodewerk London Java Community > > > > > On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Christian Bourque < > christian.bour...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > LJC? > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:19 PM Kodewerk wrote: > > > >> The LJC is distributing using different formats. >

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi, the major points from my perspective - only Java 8 + it contains JavaFX Sven Am Mi., 14. Nov. 2018, 21:35 hat Kodewerk geschrieben: > Hi, > > Since NetBeans is a community based project I would argue that if you’re > going to center around any build of OpenJDK that it be the London Java >

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Kodewerk
Hi, Since NetBeans is a community based project I would argue that if you’re going to center around any build of OpenJDK that it be the London Java Communities build, AdoptOpenJDK. It is the only truly community supported build. Amazon’s support is superficial at best. It is driven by Amazon’s

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Kodewerk
London Java Community > On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Christian Bourque > wrote: > > LJC? > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:19 PM Kodewerk wrote: > >> The LJC is distributing using different formats. >> >> — Kirk >> >> >>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lars Bruun-Hansen >> wrote: >>> >>>

Re: NetBeans DEV version is on Snapstore

2018-11-14 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Please take a look, and propose changes, if you think that is required. https://snapcraft.io/netbeans On 11/14/18 9:58 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Dear all, I made some efforts to put together the pieces to be able to publish convenience binary builds in a form of  Snap package available

Re: NetBeans DEV version is on Snapstore

2018-11-14 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
The user and cache dirs are under $HOME/snap/netbeans/common//dev so it will be kept between upgrades. On 11/14/18 10:02 AM, Eduardo Guadalupe Quintanilla wrote: ¿What happens with the User directory and Cache directory in that update? Will that be a problem? Best regards, Eduardo

RE: NetBeans DEV version is on Snapstore

2018-11-14 Thread Eduardo Guadalupe Quintanilla
¿What happens with the User directory and Cache directory in that update? Will that be a problem? Best regards, Eduardo Quintanilla Software Developer Block Networks  -Original Message- From: Laszlo Kishalmi Sent: miércoles, 14 de noviembre de 2018 11:59 a. m. To: dev Subject:

NetBeans DEV version is on Snapstore

2018-11-14 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Dear all, I made some efforts to put together the pieces to be able to publish convenience binary builds in a form of  Snap package available from the Snap store. Right now the development version is there on the edge channel (so it is available, but not publicly listed yet). The binaries

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Christian Bourque
LJC? On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:19 PM Kodewerk wrote: > The LJC is distributing using different formats. > > — Kirk > > > > On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lars Bruun-Hansen > wrote: > > > > Not too impressed by Amazon Correto. So far they only provide .msi, .rpm, > > etc, with no .zip/.tgz in

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Kodewerk
The LJC is distributing using different formats. — Kirk > On Nov 14, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > > Not too impressed by Amazon Correto. So far they only provide .msi, .rpm, > etc, with no .zip/.tgz in sight. If you look at their .msi it doesn't > actually seem to be doing

RE: Profiler crash for NB10

2018-11-14 Thread Eduardo Guadalupe Quintanilla
You can enable the memory dumps(mdmp) with: 1. Open Properties of the project 2. Switch to Run section 3. In VM Options add -Xcheck:jni -XX:+CreateMinidumpOnCrash With -XX:+CreateMinidumpOnCrash you enable the memory dump and with -Xchek:jni you enable some logs of the

Re: Profiler crash for NB10

2018-11-14 Thread Emilian Bold
I assume you mean the dependency from profiler/lib.profiler/external? It's ok to download that. The license is also OK (although I assume this will get donated too?) Please push your changes to some branch. Ideally we should isolate what exactly broke profiling on Windows. --emi On Wed, Nov 14,

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
Not too impressed by Amazon Correto. So far they only provide .msi, .rpm, etc, with no .zip/.tgz in sight. If you look at their .msi it doesn't actually seem to be doing anything else than unpacking. Doesn't even set PATH. Then why distribute as an .msi ? I'm waiting for someone to provide JDK as

RE: using tools repository for holding jenkins build script

2018-11-14 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi Neil, This is possible but we need someone to do it on the netbeans-vm. Do you have the knowledge? Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Eric Barboni Envoyé : mardi 13 novembre 2018 23:09 À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Objet : RE: using tools repository for holding jenkins

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Josh Juneau
Indeed, you are correct Geertjan. I think we are on the same page. Thanks for the proposal...looks great. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:47 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The proposal is exactly as we are all arguing for — including Neil and > Chris — a quarterly release cycle, though with two

Re: Profiler crash for NB10

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Awesome work, Peter. You have made yourself the Profiler expert of Apache NetBeans. :-) Gj On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Peter Hull wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:24 AM Peter Hull wrote: > > The crash happens in native code, due to some calls made by > > OK I have made some progress

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 12:55, ehsavoie wrote: > > Well an openjdk distribution can include NetBeans as ASL 2.0 doesn't forbid > this. > The other way around is not possible though. I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion? In both cases, at minimum the terms of both licenses apply?! Best

RE: VC3 - JDK11 - gradle plugin

2018-11-14 Thread Mike Billman
Thanks for the input, Peter. It does seem that if I remove all dependencies, possibly the problem goes away. The problem would be more how would I identify the problem. All of our code base is JDK8, so all of our dependencies would be java8 as well. So I think module-info is off the table.

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread ehsavoie
Well an openjdk distribution can include NetBeans as ASL 2.0 doesn't forbid this. The other way around is not possible though. -- Emmanuel Hugonnet http://www.ehsavoie.com http://twitter.com/ehsavoie On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:53 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 11:10,

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Josh Juneau
I like the idea of two major releases each year...those being releases incorporating new functionality. However, I think it would be a good idea to have patch releases in-between...making for a total of four releases each year. Josh On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:19 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:17, Christian Lenz wrote: > Maybe reducing the NetCat process or changing it? OK, so in the interests of [DISCUSS] :-) I think Chris is right here. I wasn't able to take part in NetCAT for NB10, but did for NB9, and that process probably does need to adapt. We had a

Re: Profiler crash for NB10

2018-11-14 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:24 AM Peter Hull wrote: > The crash happens in native code, due to some calls made by OK I have made some progress (on my own!). There some updates on the JIRA issue too for those interested. All I did was recompile the native dll for the windows-amd64 platform using

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 11:10, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > To make this possible, I think Oracle legal (as the holder of the > copyright of openjdk) and Apache legal need to agree on what is an "ok" > combination of GPLv2-CPE (GPL with Classpath Exception) and the ALv2. > > Most people agree, that a

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Zoran, Am Mittwoch, den 14.11.2018, 11:59 +0100 schrieb Zoran Sevarac: > Would it be possible to provide Net Beans binary distribution together as > Corretto, as it was before with Oracle JDK? > With Gosling there , he is probably using NetBeans and he may be willing to > support that. at

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Zoran Sevarac
Would it be possible to provide Net Beans binary distribution together as Corretto, as it was before with Oracle JDK? With Gosling there , he is probably using NetBeans and he may be willing to support that. Best On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:55 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018,

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 10:48 Geertjan Wielenga That’s fair enough and true too. > That wasn't meant as a downer on this actual announcement by the way! It's exciting to see all the various distributions of OpenJDK getting underway. Interesting times! :-) Best wishes, Neil >

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
That’s fair enough and true too. Gj On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 09:46 Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > I believe we should consider orientating ourselves around Amazon > Corretto. > > > > What would that actually mean? Why would we orient to any

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 09:46 Geertjan Wielenga > I believe we should consider orientating ourselves around Amazon Corretto. > What would that actually mean? Why would we orient to any particular OpenJDK? Personally far more interested in AdoptOpenJDK, offering all this and not being led by any

Re: Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/amazon-corretto-no-cost-distribution-openjdk-long-term-support/ Gj On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:45 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just announced at Devoxx in Belgium: > >

Amazon Corretto

2018-11-14 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Just announced at Devoxx in Belgium: https://twitter.com/search?q=amazon+corretto - Downstream distribution of the Open JDK. - No-cost long-term support. - At least quarterly releases. - Drop-in replacement. - Multiplatform - Linux, Windows, Mac, Docker And it appears to be driven by

Re: VC3 - JDK11 - gradle plugin

2018-11-14 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
I don't use gradle, and I don't want to install it, so I can only ask: Is there, by any chance, an existing or generated "module-info.java" file? The stack trace seems to originate from a recursive call: 1. From Modules.completeModule to Modules.retrieveRequiresTransitive: (NOTE: During