Re: Java, OOo, ... (Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-11 Thread Rony G Flatscher
Thank you as well, also for the link which I was not aware of!  —-rony Rony G. Flatscher (mobil/e) > Am 10.12.2020 um 12:49 schrieb Matthias Seidel : > > Hi all, > >> Am 10.12.20 um 01:59 schrieb Peter Kovacs: >> Thank you Rony for the Java deep dive. > > +1 > > And BTW: > >

Re: Java, OOo, ... (Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-10 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi all, Am 10.12.20 um 01:59 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Thank you Rony for the Java deep dive. +1 And BTW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4DeOilMOQA Regards,    Matthias > > On 08.12.20 19:11, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: >> Hmm, just some thoughts and pointers that may be helpful in

Re: Java, OOo, ... (Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
Thank you Rony for the Java deep dive. On 08.12.20 19:11, Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: Hmm, just some thoughts and pointers that may be helpful in the context of the current Java and possibly HSQL discussions. Ad Java and OpenOffice IMHO Java has been fulfilling Sun's original

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Mechtilde, > -Original Message- > From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 2:08 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > Hello Jörg, > > Am 08.12.20 um

Java, OOo, ... (Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Hmm, just some thoughts and pointers that may be helpful in the context of the current Java and possibly HSQL discussions. Ad Java and OpenOffice IMHO Java has been fulfilling Sun's original promise "write once, run everywhere" in a very impressive way for decades by  now! When Sun

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Damjan, Am 08.12.20 um 03:06 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base >> Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB >> (BSD). There are

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Dec 8, 2020, at 2:47 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > > On 08.12.20 03:06, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base >>> Database. Our current strategy is a

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
; >>> From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 10:34 AM > >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > >>>> As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the l

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Matthias Seidel
gt;>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO >>>> As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the long run, a >>> problem because of the licensing policy of Oracle(*) and we >>> have to find ways to fre

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Carl Marcum
ss one has compelling features not offered. On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 7:38 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO Hi all

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Mechtilde
Kind regards > Best regards, > Carl > >> >>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >>>> Sent: Mo

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Jörg, Am 08.12.20 um 11:29 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 10:34 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedd

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Carl Marcum
e-commerce clients in production without issues. Best regards, Carl On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 7:38 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [discussion] futur

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Keith, as i know from former time (before comming to apache) we evaluate that we can't update HSQL Db to version 2.x. that is the reason, why also Debian shipped both version of HSQLDB. Kind regards Mechtilde Am 08.12.20 um 03:48 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > On 12/7/2020 1:38 PM, Peter

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 11:15 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > Hi Peter, > > If we switch to some other

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 08.12.20 03:06, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 10:34 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the long run,

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Matthias Seidel
t; Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 3:49 AM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO >>> My first question has to be : Why are we still using such an >>> old version >>> of HSQLDB? As memory serves it

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Mechtilde
Hello onle one statement inside Am 08.12.20 um 10:23 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 9:46 AM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [d

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 9:46 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > > On 08.12.20 09:14, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 08.12.20 09:27, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 3:49 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO My first question has to be : Why are we still

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 08.12.20 09:14, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 11:03 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO Maybe one more thing: Is the problem database even

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 9:14 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > > [...] Now I have to focus again: Is the concr

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 3:49 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > My first question has to be : Why are we still using such

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 11:03 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > Maybe one more thing: Is the problem database even importa

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 12/7/2020 1:38 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base > Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB > (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 > (EPL1 or MPL2) and

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:38 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base > Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB > (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 > (EPL1 or

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 07.12.20 23:03, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 7, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: On 07.12.20 20:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base Database. Our current

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > > On 07.12.20 20:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base >>> Database. Our current strategy is a

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 07.12.20 22:35, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 10:11 PM To: dev Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO I agree that eating our own dogfood and using Derby would be the "better&

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 10:11 PM > To: dev > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > I agree that eating our own dogfood and using Derby would be > the &qu

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 07.12.20 20:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > With both databases, however, Java bothers me - or have we given up the > intention of making AOO less dependent on Java? > (yes, of course this is a very long-term question) But still a good one... personally, SQlite seems like a better,

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
e- >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] >> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 7:38 PM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO >> >> Hi all, >> >> I would like to know how you guys feel we sh

[discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Peter, Am 07.12.20 um 19:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base > Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB > (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 > (EPL1

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 8:11 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > Hello Peter, > > Am 07.12.20 um 19:38 schri

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base > Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB > (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 (EPL1

RE: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2020 7:38 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO > > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we

Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Peter, Am 07.12.20 um 19:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > Hi all, > > I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base > Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB > (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 > (EPL1

[discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi all, I would like to know how you guys feel we should move on with our base Database. Our current strategy is a small sized embedded DB using HSQLDB (BSD). There are 2 other options in the same weight class, that is H2 (EPL1 or MPL2) and Apache Derby (AL2). Something like SQLLite