Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-27 Thread Armin Le Grand
... iPanel? ...iBar? ...iSidebar? ...iTools? On 24.05.2013 08:49, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:34 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Find a better name for sidebar? SmartPanel

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-27 Thread Shari Smith
: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:34 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Find a better name for sidebar? SmartPanel ? Yes, not bad. That sounds good. Greetings, Jörg --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-27 Thread Shari Smith
We'll sidebar doesn't in anyway indicate it can't be edited. Many people use blogging systems, and sidebars are editable. On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi, Shari Smith schrieb: How about User Box or User Panel? UP Box (User Panel Box; UP the

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-27 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi 2013/5/27 Shari Smith shari.sm...@uneedstuff.com: why i, I'd say oPanel or aPanel +1 Effectively panel is interesting in our local context, so [a|I|o]Panel is a good way. More yet if in the furure the formating toolbar will be disabled. Better(IMHO) if we improve this *panel* with

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-26 Thread Anton Meixome
I would propose Panoply from pan (all) + oply (arms)=toolbars «Because a panoply is a complete set of diverse components, the word panoply has come to refer to any complete or impressive collection, especially one of weaponry or where it is displayed, thus an arsenal or armory.» It's widely

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] I believe you put far too much weight in a name of an of course good feature. [...] I think it's not so good that you wrote for me to post only the marketing you would be important to you again now that relativize. Please tell

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] I am quite aware of the difference between a generic name and a marketable brand name. I just don't think that the sidebar deserves this honor. That may be, just may be the criterion that if you want success? It proverb says: It

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-25 Thread Shari Smith
How about User Box or User Panel? UP Box (User Panel Box; UP the side) On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] I am quite aware of the difference between a generic name and a marketable brand name.

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:34 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Find a better name for sidebar? SmartPanel ? Yes, not bad. That sounds good. Greetings, Jörg

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] It isn't. You raised a point that is indeed new. Nobody so far had thought about the naming issue. But I agree that you have a point here: if it is a unique feature, it makes sense to at least think about a possible cute name

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Andre Fischer
On 24.05.2013 00:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jörg Schmidt wrote: reflect together about a better name for sidebar, maybe we can find a better name. Call it OpenBar then. Open like OpenOffice. Bar like in Toolbar. And Open Bar like get everything you want for free. Oh well. Everything You

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/24/13 9:47 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: I do see the need for good marketing ??? I do not understand this statement. i am so sorry I had mistakenly read dont instead of do I believe you put far too much weight in a name of an of course good feature. The sidebar is a concept to

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
I'm cutting previous quotes, as many of the arguments in them are not immediately relevant to the question of a suuitable name. I would argue against the use of bar in connection with the sidepanel. It is not a bar in the normal understanding of the word in computing - a bar being long and

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-24 Thread Andre Fischer
On 24.05.2013 09:34, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Andre Fischer [mailto:awf@gmail.com] Open like OpenOffice. Bar like in Toolbar. And Open Bar like get everything you want for free. Oh well. Everything You answer me, that's my suggestion is apparently uncomfortable. It isn't. You

Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as Navigator, Giesskanne or Datenpilot (all German). I think the sidebar is very welcomed by our users

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:16:55 +0200 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as Navigator,

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 10:16 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as Navigator, Giesskanne or Datenpilot (all German).

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Jürgen, *, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] well sidebar as name is now flowing around since months and now it is simply to late from my perspective. You're right, but ... We should, I think, also be careful to promote our program perfectly. What relates to the

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Please also see the difference and the potential advantage for our program - a sidebar is just a sidebar but a ...our special name for *our* sidebar... is a little bit more, is the original. +1 FC

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 11:55 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello Jürgen, *, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] well sidebar as name is now flowing around since months and now it is simply to late from my perspective. You're right, but ... We should, I think, also be careful to

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] we can start promote this feature already, we can create screencasts, can blog about it, can make clear where it comes from ... If LO copy the sidebar (and I am sure they will) it's a good signal and users will learn over time

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] Perhaps Toolpanel? Yes, maybe. What I really am looking for is a term _that can be used without translation into all languages_. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe,

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread RGB ES
2013/5/23 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de Hello, From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] Perhaps Toolpanel? Yes, maybe. What I really am looking for is a term _that can be used without translation into all languages_. That's quite difficult, I think. Just consider that

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 1:02 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] we can start promote this feature already, we can create screencasts, can blog about it, can make clear where it comes from ... If LO copy the sidebar (and I am sure they will) it's a good

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:23 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Find a better name for sidebar? 2013/5/23 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de Hello, From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month and we have many other things to do. I feel it very mistimed to start such a discussion now. You're right, a great discussion, would be at the present time,

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 2:20 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month and we have many other things to do. I feel it very mistimed to start such a discussion now. You're right, a great

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Risto Jääskeläinen
Hello! I my self like it is more panel than bar but sidebar is quite short term. And short names are somehow more easy. Anyway how about Frank panel. Our Frank is straightforward panel. Best regards Risto Jörg Schmidt [joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] kirjoitti: Hello, Would not it make

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 4:17 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? Like Awesome Panel? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/23/13 2:20 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month and we have many other things to do. I feel it

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? Like Awesome Panel? I'm not quite sure how your answer is to understand. (a) Is

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrew Rist
SmartPanel ? On 5/23/2013 11:06 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? Like Awesome Panel? I'm not quite sure how your answer is to understand. (a) Is Awesome Panel a

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jörg Schmidt wrote: reflect together about a better name for sidebar, maybe we can find a better name. Call it OpenBar then. Open like OpenOffice. Bar like in Toolbar. And Open Bar like get everything you want for free. Oh well. Everything You answer me, that's my suggestion is apparently

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that SuperPanel or SmartPanel are good proposals what can be done by this UI element: Use the panel to do you work in

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrew Rist
On 5/23/2013 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that SuperPanel or SmartPanel are good proposals and possibly SmartBar

Re: Find a better name for sidebar?

2013-05-23 Thread F C. Costero
On 5/23/2013 5:29 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/23/2013 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that SuperPanel or SmartPanel are