Re: Apache@ OSCON 2015 - Booth Goodies

2015-06-05 Thread jan i
On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
wrote:

> OSCON 2015 is near upon us.
>
> I am offering to do booth duty again this year.  I had a great time and am
> happy to do it again.
>
> I have one request.
>
> Can we have bigger Apache OpenOffice buttons?  The little ones are nice,
> but I find they are difficult to put one.
>
> The design need not change, but it would be good to have bigger ones.  Is
> that easy to accomplish?

It is a good idea and we have the budget to make it happen. All we need is
someone doing it.

rgds
jan i


>
>  - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Melissa Warnkin [mailto:missywarn...@yahoo.com.INVALID
> ]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 08:29
> To: d...@community.apache.org ; ksch...@apache.org
> 
> Subject: Re: Apache@ OSCON question
>
> Hi Kay,
>
> What kind of project giveaways are you thinking of? Let me know - I'll be
> more than happy to accommodate this if I can.  Please be sure to contact
> brand management if approval is needed!!!
>
> As Ross mentioned, I'm the primary booth staffer, but there are always a
> handful of volunteers that help at the booth (staffing during breaks/lunch
> and help with the setup/teardown).  Shane will be my sidekick at the booth
> this year.  If you or others from your project will be attending OSCON and
> would like to be present at the booth at a specific time to talk to the
> attendees, just let me know.  We could always send out a broadcast via
> social media about "stop by the ASF's booth at XXX to speak with the reps
> from Project XXX".  That goes for the other projects as well!!
>
> It's always great to have someone from the community at the booth to
> answer technical questions!!
>
> Please let me know if you have any further questions.
>
> Have a great day - speak soon,
>
> ~Melissa
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Ross Gardler >
> To: d...@community.apache.org ; ksch...@apache.org
> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Apache@ OSCON question
>
>
> We have foundation giveaways but generally not specific projects (the table
> isn't big enough;-)
>
> Usually we just have Melissa staff it and answer general questions about
> the ASF. Wherever possible she connects people asking about specific
> projects to attendees at the conference.
>
> In theory we could be more organized giving specific projects a time slot
> for example. But we would someone to help Melissa manage this.
>
> If there is something you would like to do let us know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 June 2014 17:08, k...@apache.org   > wrote:
>
> > I just saw in the May Board minutes that Apache has applied for a booth
> > at OSCON.
> >
> > Can we get a small update on this? Should projects provide give-aways of
> > some sort if we have them? What's typically handled at the Apache booth
> > at OSCON.
> >
>
>
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Apache@ OSCON 2015 - Booth Goodies

2015-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
OSCON 2015 is near upon us.

I am offering to do booth duty again this year.  I had a great time and am 
happy to do it again.

I have one request.

Can we have bigger Apache OpenOffice buttons?  The little ones are nice, but I 
find they are difficult to put one.

The design need not change, but it would be good to have bigger ones.  Is that 
easy to accomplish?

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Melissa Warnkin [mailto:missywarn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 08:29
To: d...@community.apache.org; ksch...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache@ OSCON question

Hi Kay,

What kind of project giveaways are you thinking of? Let me know - I'll be more 
than happy to accommodate this if I can.  Please be sure to contact brand 
management if approval is needed!!!

As Ross mentioned, I'm the primary booth staffer, but there are always a 
handful of volunteers that help at the booth (staffing during breaks/lunch and 
help with the setup/teardown).  Shane will be my sidekick at the booth this 
year.  If you or others from your project will be attending OSCON and would 
like to be present at the booth at a specific time to talk to the attendees, 
just let me know.  We could always send out a broadcast via social media about 
"stop by the ASF's booth at XXX to speak with the reps from Project XXX".  That 
goes for the other projects as well!!

It's always great to have someone from the community at the booth to answer 
technical questions!!

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Have a great day - speak soon,

~Melissa




 From: Ross Gardler 
To: d...@community.apache.org; ksch...@apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Apache@ OSCON question
 

We have foundation giveaways but generally not specific projects (the table
isn't big enough;-)

Usually we just have Melissa staff it and answer general questions about
the ASF. Wherever possible she connects people asking about specific
projects to attendees at the conference.

In theory we could be more organized giving specific projects a time slot
for example. But we would someone to help Melissa manage this.

If there is something you would like to do let us know.










On 19 June 2014 17:08, k...@apache.org  wrote:

> I just saw in the May Board minutes that Apache has applied for a booth
> at OSCON.
>
> Can we get a small update on this? Should projects provide give-aways of
> some sort if we have them? What's typically handled at the Apache booth
> at OSCON.
>


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Re: Configure error on Mac

2015-06-05 Thread aronsoyol
Thanks Kay Schenk.
But I've certianly specified ant's home
--with-ant-home=/usr/local/Cellar/ant/1.9.4 but the error still there
Is there any miss in my configure
Or environment settings?
2015/06/06 1:00 "Kay Schenk" :

>
>
> On 06/04/2015 08:02 PM, aronsoyol wrote:
> > The Source code is cloned from github and the head is on
> >
> > commit ea4c3e19069b2746928af62788be6a65e07c03e9
> >
> > Author: Kay Schenk 
> >
> > Date:   Wed Jun 3 22:53:11 2015 +
> >
> >
> > #i126281# Remove HWP as an option to Writer open menu.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > git-svn-id:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk@1683442
> > 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
> >
> > 2015-06-05 11:56 GMT+09:00 aronsoyol :
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I want to build OpenOffice on Mac, But I encountered this error
> >>
> >> checking if /usr/local/Cellar/ant/1.9.4/libexec/bin/ant works...
> >> configure: WARNING: Ant does not work - Some Java projects will not
> build!
> >>
> >> checking whether ant is >= 1.7.0... ./configure: line 22551: test: not
> >> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM: integer expression expected
> >>
> >> configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.7.0
> >>
> >> My system is Mac 10.10.3. and I've installed ANT 1.9.4. and JDK.
> >>
> >> The complete output is shown in below.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
>
> HI. I'm fairly certain the recent commit to the Writer filters does not
> have anything to do with your configure error. In the past, I have also
> gotten the ant error you sent. This was due to an incomplete "package"
> of ant without the needed testing setup bits. I'm using 1.9.2 downloaded
> from
>
> http://ant.apache.org/bindownload.cgi
>
> You can also try running configure again and specifying your ant location
> --
> --with-ant-home=[path to your complete ant setup, not just binary]
>
>
>
> >>
> >>
> >> aron-mac-almas:main aron$ ./configure --with-dmake-url=
> >> http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
> >> --with-epm-url=
> http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
> >> --disable-build-mozilla --without-stlport --enable-verbose
> >> --enable-category-b--enable-wiki-publisher
> >> --with-ant-home=/usr/local/Cellar/ant/1.9.4
> >>
> >> configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-build-mozilla
> >>
> >> checking whether configure is up-to-date... yes
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> *   Apache OpenOffice build configuration. *
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> *   The configure process checks your platform to see whether  *
> >>
> >> *   you can build Apache OpenOffice on it. *
> >>
> >> *   This process checks all pre-requisites and generates a file*
> >>
> >> *   containing the necessary environment variables.*
> >>
> >> *   Source this file after configure has ended successfully.   *
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> *   Warnings that are generated during the configure process   *
> >>
> >> *   must be taken into account since it can be a reason for*
> >>
> >> *   an unsuccessful build of Apache OpenOffice.*
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> *   Checking the platform pre-requisites.  *
> >>
> >> *  *
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep
> >>
> >> checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E
> >>
> >> checking for gawk... no
> >>
> >> checking for mawk... no
> >>
> >> checking for nawk... no
> >>
> >> checking for awk... awk
> >>
> >> checking for awk... /usr/bin/awk
> >>
> >> checking for sed... /usr/bin/sed
> >>
> >> checking for solenv environment... default
> >>
> >> checking for custom pack.lst... no
> >>
> >> checking build system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
> >>
> >> checking host system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
> >>
> >> checking target system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
> >>
> >> head: /etc/*-release: No such file or directory
> >>
> >> Darwin aron-mac-almas.local 14.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar
> >> 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> >>
> >> configure: WARNING: Disabling gtk-quickstarter - not supported on Mac.
> Use
> >> --disable-systray
> >>
> >> checking for pkg-config... no
> >>
> >> checking whether to ena

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Re: interesting white paper from MS shared on the dev-de list

2015-06-05 Thread Chuck Davis
I read it too and was impressed that nobody needs the "advantages".

I started a new job (where they have excel of course) and got so annoyed by
the things excel was doing I installed AOO to get my work done.

CD

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Απόστολος Συρόπουλος <
asyropoulos...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Joerg Schmidt shared an interesting whitepaper from Microsoft "White
> > Paper: OpenOffice / LibreOffice Evaluation Criteria" on the dev-de list.
> >
> > I found it interesting and thought it can be of interest for others here
> > as well.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> > http://www.whymicrosoft.com/see-why/openoffice-evaluation-criteria/
> >
>
> I have read the white paper (why it is called white is another story) and I
> think that it is the usual market nonsense. Microsoft is loosing money and
> they want to find a way to get their former customers back. An interesting
> comment included in this "white" paper is the following one:
>
> Microsoft Office 2010 boosts Indian IT firm's productivity by 30 percent.
>
> I just wonder how the prodictivity of an IT company is increased by using
> a word processor or a lousy database?
>
> A.S.
> --
> Apostolos Syropoulos
> Xanthi, Greece
>
>


Re: Configure error on Mac

2015-06-05 Thread Kay Schenk


On 06/04/2015 08:02 PM, aronsoyol wrote:
> The Source code is cloned from github and the head is on
> 
> commit ea4c3e19069b2746928af62788be6a65e07c03e9
> 
> Author: Kay Schenk 
> 
> Date:   Wed Jun 3 22:53:11 2015 +
> 
> 
> #i126281# Remove HWP as an option to Writer open menu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> git-svn-id: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk@1683442
> 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
> 
> 2015-06-05 11:56 GMT+09:00 aronsoyol :
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to build OpenOffice on Mac, But I encountered this error
>>
>> checking if /usr/local/Cellar/ant/1.9.4/libexec/bin/ant works...
>> configure: WARNING: Ant does not work - Some Java projects will not build!
>>
>> checking whether ant is >= 1.7.0... ./configure: line 22551: test: not
>> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM: integer expression expected
>>
>> configure: error: no, you need at least ant >= 1.7.0
>>
>> My system is Mac 10.10.3. and I've installed ANT 1.9.4. and JDK.
>>
>> The complete output is shown in below.
>>
>> Best regards.

HI. I'm fairly certain the recent commit to the Writer filters does not
have anything to do with your configure error. In the past, I have also
gotten the ant error you sent. This was due to an incomplete "package"
of ant without the needed testing setup bits. I'm using 1.9.2 downloaded
from

http://ant.apache.org/bindownload.cgi

You can also try running configure again and specifying your ant location --
--with-ant-home=[path to your complete ant setup, not just binary]



>>
>>
>> aron-mac-almas:main aron$ ./configure --with-dmake-url=
>> http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
>> --with-epm-url=http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
>> --disable-build-mozilla --without-stlport --enable-verbose
>> --enable-category-b--enable-wiki-publisher
>> --with-ant-home=/usr/local/Cellar/ant/1.9.4
>>
>> configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-build-mozilla
>>
>> checking whether configure is up-to-date... yes
>>
>> 
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> *   Apache OpenOffice build configuration. *
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> *   The configure process checks your platform to see whether  *
>>
>> *   you can build Apache OpenOffice on it. *
>>
>> *   This process checks all pre-requisites and generates a file*
>>
>> *   containing the necessary environment variables.*
>>
>> *   Source this file after configure has ended successfully.   *
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> *   Warnings that are generated during the configure process   *
>>
>> *   must be taken into account since it can be a reason for*
>>
>> *   an unsuccessful build of Apache OpenOffice.*
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> *   Checking the platform pre-requisites.  *
>>
>> *  *
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep
>>
>> checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E
>>
>> checking for gawk... no
>>
>> checking for mawk... no
>>
>> checking for nawk... no
>>
>> checking for awk... awk
>>
>> checking for awk... /usr/bin/awk
>>
>> checking for sed... /usr/bin/sed
>>
>> checking for solenv environment... default
>>
>> checking for custom pack.lst... no
>>
>> checking build system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
>>
>> checking host system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
>>
>> checking target system type... x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0
>>
>> head: /etc/*-release: No such file or directory
>>
>> Darwin aron-mac-almas.local 14.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 14.3.0: Mon Mar
>> 23 11:59:05 PDT 2015; root:xnu-2782.20.48~5/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
>>
>> configure: WARNING: Disabling gtk-quickstarter - not supported on Mac. Use
>> --disable-systray
>>
>> checking for pkg-config... no
>>
>> checking whether to enable crashdump feature... no
>>
>> checking whether to turn warnings to errors... no
>>
>> checking whether to do a debug build... no
>>
>> checking whether to build with additional debug utilities... no, full
>> product build
>>
>> checking whether to include symbols into final build... no
>>
>> checking whether to strip the solver or not yes
>>
>> checking whether to enable category B components... yes: allow modules
>> nss, hunspell, hyphen, saxon, rhino, beanshell, graphite, coinmp to be built

Re: Looking for help for clipboard in Math

2015-06-05 Thread Michael Stahl
On 05.06.2015 01:44, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I struggle with the clipboard. My goal is to import MathML in module 
> Math from clipboard, similar as it is imported from file. But I'm stuck. 
> Therefore some questions:
> 
> (1)
> Has someone tried such already and found, that it is not possible?

i have no idea about clipboards or Math, but i'm armed with git grep :)

> (2)
> The comments in file exchange.cxx refer to a document "CLIP.SDW". Has 
> someone this document and can provide it?

ehhh i'd not hold my breath on that one :)

> (3)
> I have added a .uno command which is executed in 
> SmViewShell::Execute(SfxRequest& rReq)
> 
> My current attempt looks like this:
> 
> TransferableDataHelper aDataHelper( 
> TransferableDataHelper::CreateFromSystemClipboard(GetEditWindow()) );
> SotFormatStringId nId;
> DataFlavorExVector* pFormats;
> pFormats = &aDataHelper.GetDataFlavorExVector();
> DataFlavorExVector::iterator aIter( 
> ((DataFlavorExVector&)*pFormats).begin() ),
>  aEnd( 
> ((DataFlavorExVector&)*pFormats).end() );
> while ( aIter != aEnd )
> {
>  nId = (*aIter).mnSotId;
> ...
>  aIter++;
> }
> 
> I get some nId-values and for some of them I can get a stream and can 
> look at the content. But the clipboard content, which is generated by 
> the Windows program "Math Input Control" (mip.exe) is not noticed. But I 
> see that the clipboard has a content "MathML" and a content "MathML 
> Presentation" using the clipboard viewer "Free Clipboard Viewer 2.0". 
> Why do I get no nId for it?

include/sot/exchange.hxx:

struct DataFlavorEx : public ::com::sun::star::datatransfer::DataFlavor

this has a "SotClipboardFormatId mnSotId" and a "string MimeType" - how
does the system specifc clipboard data get translated to that...

> (4)
> The numbers I get in nId are those from the list in exchange.cxx, and 
> for "application/mathml+xml", which is not listed there, I get the next 
> one following the list. But how can I get the MimeType or the 
> HumanPresentableName for the detected nId? My following try does not 
> work, the strings are empty in all cases:
> 
> ::com::sun::star::datatransfer::DataFlavor aFlavor;
> SotExchange::GetFormatDataFlavor( nId, aFlavor ) )
> String sHumanPresentableName(aFlavor.HumanPresentableName);
> String sMimeType(aFlavor.MimeType);

include/sot/formats.hxx: enum class SotClipboardFormatId

there is no MathML in there, but various STARMATH_* ones.

// the point at which we start allocating "runtime" format IDs
USER_END  = STARWRITERGLOB_8_TEMPLATE

so what you probably have as ID is "user-defined", which means we can't
do anything with it really.

it looks like there needs to be some mapping from the OS-specific
clipboard to these office-internal IDs - if there's no ID for MathML it
can't be mapped.

there is a big array in sot/source/base/exchange.cxx, you probably need
to add an entry for MathML there.

the array is ordered and indexed by the SotClipboardFormatId.

/* 48 SotClipboardFormatId::STARMATH_50*/{
"application/x-openoffice-starmath-50;windows_formatname=\"StarMath
5.0\"", "StarMath 5.0", &cppu::UnoType>::get() },

that's the mime-type and human-readable name.

i was wondering how this would work on Windows, given that the Win32
clipboard presumably does not use mime-types; apparently the
";windows_formatname=\"...\"" appendix to the mime-type here covers that.

> (5)
> I try to use SmViewShell::InsertFrom(SfxMedium &rMedium). It seems to 
> work, but when the process arrives at SmXMLImport::endDocument(void), 
> the node tree is empty.  Any tips, what I might have missed?

how do you prepare the SfxMedium?  i'm not sure if it requires an actual
file, or if it can read from an input stream (XInputStream); it probably
can't read from a Sequence buffer directly...

there is a SfxMedium::setStreamToLoadFrom() which looks promising.

you can create an input stream from the buffer via SvMemoryStream and
then wrap that in utl::OInputStreamWrapper.


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Re: Sourceforge

2015-06-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:41:19 +0800
imacat  wrote:

> (I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
> moved it to public.)

There is some additional information in this thread on the en-Forum
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=77517

Rory O'Farrell

> 
> As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
> adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
> bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
> hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.
> 
> Goodbye, SourceForge.
> https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/
> 
> Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
> http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy
> 
> What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
> https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/
> 
> I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
> Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
> PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.
> 
> Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/
> 
> GIMP, VLC
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/
> 
> Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
> http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/
> 
> So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
> malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
> should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.
> 
> Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
> > Hi again Louis,
> > 
> > 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts :
> > 
> >> Hi Roberto,
> >> See these:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
> >>
> > 
> > It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
> > unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
> > know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/
> >>
> > 
> > It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
> > after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
> > there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
> > can't help with that.
> > 
> > Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
> > someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
> > 
> > Roberto
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> I don’t think that seeing this as a "fuss" and deprecating it as
> >> unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
> >> teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.
> >>
> >> louis
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Louis,
> >>>
> >>>  I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
> >> referring to.
> >>>  But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
> >> abandoned project for just some days.
> >>>
> >>>  Roberto
> >>>
> >>> 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts :
> >>> Roberto,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
> >> discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
> >> abandonment?
> >>>
> >>> louis
>  On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini <
> >> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
> >> himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
> >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html
> 
>  Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
> >> SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
> >> kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
> >> the company decided to quit such tests for good.
> 
>  A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
> >> beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.
> 
>  Roberto
> 
>  2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :
> 
>  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>  Just a FYI:
> 
>  https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338
> 
>  I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
>  against AOO, due to our "reliance" on them as a major download
>  partner.
> 
> 
> 
>  It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
> >> opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
> >> so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
> >> opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
> >> voice and whether it was clear to SF whose

Re: Sourceforge

2015-06-05 Thread imacat
(I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
moved it to public.)

As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.

Goodbye, SourceForge.
https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/

Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy

What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/

I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.

Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/

GIMP, VLC
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/

Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/

So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.

Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
> Hi again Louis,
> 
> 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts :
> 
>> Hi Roberto,
>> See these:
>>
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
>>
> 
> It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
> unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
> know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/
>>
> 
> It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
> after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
> there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
> can't help with that.
> 
> Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
> someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
> 
> Roberto
> 
> 
>>
>> I don’t think that seeing this as a "fuss" and deprecating it as
>> unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
>> teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.
>>
>> louis
>>
>>
>>> On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Louis,
>>>
>>>  I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
>> referring to.
>>>  But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
>> abandoned project for just some days.
>>>
>>>  Roberto
>>>
>>> 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts :
>>> Roberto,
>>>
>>>
>>> Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
>> discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
>> abandonment?
>>>
>>> louis
 On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini <
>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
>> himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html

 Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
>> SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
>> kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
>> the company decided to quit such tests for good.

 A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
>> beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.

 Roberto

 2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir :

 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 Just a FYI:

 https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338

 I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
 against AOO, due to our "reliance" on them as a major download
 partner.



 It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
>> opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
>> so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
>> opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
>> voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the
>> community.   Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making
>> process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely.

 -Rob



>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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RE: interesting white paper from MS shared on the dev-de list

2015-06-05 Thread Απόστολος Συρόπουλος
> 
> Joerg Schmidt shared an interesting whitepaper from Microsoft "White
> Paper: OpenOffice / LibreOffice Evaluation Criteria" on the dev-de list.
> 
> I found it interesting and thought it can be of interest for others here
> as well.
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
> http://www.whymicrosoft.com/see-why/openoffice-evaluation-criteria/
> 

I have read the white paper (why it is called white is another story) and I
think that it is the usual market nonsense. Microsoft is loosing money and
they want to find a way to get their former customers back. An interesting
comment included in this "white" paper is the following one:

Microsoft Office 2010 boosts Indian IT firm's productivity by 30 percent.

I just wonder how the prodictivity of an IT company is increased by using 
a word processor or a lousy database?
 
A.S.
--
Apostolos Syropoulos
Xanthi, Greece

  

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