Re: missing commit log

Yes editing svn:log revprops is admissible and done routinely. > > From: Ariel Constenla-Haile >To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:24 AM >Subject: Re: missing commit log > >Hi Carl, > >On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:44PM -0500,

Re: missing commit log

Hi Carl, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:44PM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote: > can I append a missing commit log? I don't use subversion, but IIRC I've seen a commit from someone changing a log; if true, this might work: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/304383/how-do-i-edit-a-log-message-that-i-alread

missing commit log

can I append a missing commit log? I committed r1446039 on command line okay, but r1446040and r1446041 using netbeans I missed the message: Added IT localization files Patch by: Fabrizio Marchesano Review by: GianAngelo Cencio Thanks, Carl

Re: Updating Java libraries

On 02/13/2013 12:48 PM, Fred Ollinger wrote: Relying on jars, IMHO, is not bad, but it depends on your goals. The point of compiling from source is that it's a first step to actually being a developer which is why I do it. Compiling problems aren't problems for us new developers they are puzzles

Releasing incompatible changes

Prior to working with AOO, I thought that there was a widely-known and generally accepted methodology for releasing incompatible changes. However, the problem has surfaced here three times: once last spring (encryption default), and twice currently (0⁰, and extensions with toolbars). I want to

Re: Tutorial About

Hi Jorge, On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 07:27:05PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote: > Hello Ariel, > > I did the steps you said, the compilation was successful, I made two copies > too. Now when I click the button about not the message. > > And another point the basis that I have is the basis3.4. A

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

- Messaggio originale - > Da: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak  ... > > > On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the >> development work I intended to do on Calc as I have lost all >> interest on improving it given the

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

- Messaggio originale - > Da: Joe Schaefer   > FWIW I refreshed my memory about how > to compute polynomials numerically by > looking back at my old copy of Numerical > Recipes in C and it's always considered > bad form to evaluate the terms individually, > especially not by using the POW

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the development work I intended to do on Calc as I have lost all interest on improving it given the current situation. I totally understand. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http:/

Re: Tutorial About

Hello Ariel, I did the steps you said, the compilation was successful, I made two copies too. Now when I click the button about not the message. And another point the basis that I have is the basis3.4. Instead unxlngx6 I have a unxlngi6.pro How I can do a debug mode? Where I can find more infor

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 02/13/2013 09:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and closing AndrewMacro.odt That's a big one: Release the Kraken! The time to close the document (not saving) could

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:38:57AM +0100, janI wrote: > > I don't understand what you are talking about, it looks like you are > > mixing what happens during building the product, with the final product. > > > > The final product, as can be downloaded from the final, in his language, > > contain on

Re: Implementation-defined behaviors in ODF spreadsheets

Awesome! On 02/13/2013 12:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: This topic seems to be of more general interest, given the discussions we've been having regarding the evaluation of 0^0. When we were writing up the specification of ODF 1.2's OpenFormula we had the goal to describe how real-world spreadsheet ap

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

On 02/13/2013 08:15 AM, tony fre wrote: hi all, I love computers and since the first personal one came to brazil I've been dealing with them. I played with BASIC on the old times . . . saw some assembly but I'm not a programmer - I don't like it. on the other hand I love to break the computer

Re: Interval arithmetic [was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0]

On 02/13/2013 11:14 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW; - Messaggio originale - Da: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak Of course, had I implemented quaternion math using Boost, no one would be complaining. :-P Pedro. [1] http://bikeshed.or

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

FWIW I refreshed my memory about how to compute polynomials numerically by looking back at my old copy of Numerical Recipes in C and it's always considered bad form to evaluate the terms individually, especially not by using the POWER function to do it.  Most of the time you want to compute p = c[0

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 13 February 2013 22:06, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:42:42AM +0100, janI wrote: > > If performance and memory footprint is a concern, we loose a lot in our > > international version, > > > > An average set of language text takes up 1.3Mb in the code segment. > > >

Re: [BZ] Change strings with "OOo" on the BZ startpage

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Hi BZ admins, > > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ > > May I suggest some little string changes on the BZ startpage: > > HTML title > -- > Currently: > Apache OOo Bugzilla Main Page > > New: > Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla Main Page >

Re: Implementation-defined behaviors in ODF spreadsheets

Am 02/13/2013 06:43 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: This topic seems to be of more general interest, given the discussions we've been having regarding the evaluation of 0^0. When we were writing up the specification of ODF 1.2's OpenFormula we had the goal to describe how real-world spreadsheet applicatio

Re: Downloading Problems

Am 02/13/2013 12:31 AM, schrieb Ryan Hinderlider: I'm trying to download open office on my laptop. Instead of downloading. It freezes my web browser. I'm wanting to download open office for use on my laptop. Thanks in advance for the help. Please make sure that you download from the original

[BUILD PROBLEM] Fail on JPropex build.xml line 122 \\ Error 65280

My build just crashed on the build.xml under ./main/l10ntools/java/jpropex/ at line 122 : 122classpathref="classpath"> So I guess I need to set a CLASSPATH, right? To which directory should it be set? Thanks for your help, Regards, Maarten

[BZ] Change strings with "OOo" on the BZ startpage

Hi BZ admins, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ May I suggest some little string changes on the BZ startpage: HTML title -- Currently: Apache OOo Bugzilla Main Page New: Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla Main Page Headline Currently: Welcome to Apache OOo Bugzilla New: Welcome

Building with --without-system-serf

I've been busy with building lately, especially with building on Fedora 18 with the --with-system-libs switch, which should be used for packaging in Fedora. This is preparation work for the Fedora 19 packaging. To isolate the problematic dependencies, I configure with something like ./configure

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:42:42AM +0100, janI wrote: > If performance and memory footprint is a concern, we loose a lot in our > international version, > > An average set of language text takes up 1.3Mb in the code segment. > > Since we release 8 languages, it would be expected to use about 10Mb

Re: Completed Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

Hello Andrea, It's building right now and everything looks fine. If I encounter a problem, I will certainly come back to you guys. Grts, Maarten Op 13-feb-2013, om 18:25 heeft Andrea Pescetti het volgende geschreven: > Forwarding to Maarten who is not subscribed. Maarten: please go on and feel

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

> > Da: Kay Schenk  ... > >On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Joe Schaefer >> wrote: >> > OTOH I haven't seen anyone issue a technical >> > veto on this change, which is really what's >> > required before Pedro actually needs to revert >> > an

RE: Implementation-defined behaviors in ODF spreadsheets

+1 -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 09:44 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Implementation-defined behaviors in ODF spreadsheets This topic seems to be of more general interest, given the discussions we've been having r

Re: Draft: Advice for Students page

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > Done. Also added a link to this from our "Get Involved" page. Should there be a corresponding advice page for instructors looking to get their students involved? Perhaps including an invitation to EFL instructors to help translating the stude

Re: Draft: Advice for Students page

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 11/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote: >> >> http://openoffice.apache.org/students.html ... >> >> Any other things that should be on the list? > > > Nothing to add, good text. But I would link "Let us know" (first bullet > point) and "[have your pr

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Joe Schaefer > wrote: > > OTOH I haven't seen anyone issue a technical > > veto on this change, which is really what's > > required before Pedro actually needs to revert > > anything. > > > > I was waiting to se

Re: Updating Java libraries

Relying on jars, IMHO, is not bad, but it depends on your goals. The point of compiling from source is that it's a first step to actually being a developer which is why I do it. Compiling problems aren't problems for us new developers they are puzzles to solve to help people out. If there are cha

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

I think the days of fruitful debate about this topic are well past us now. What this issue needs at this point is a decision one way or the other. There are several ways of doing that according to the general voting policies at Apache: exercising those procedures should not be viewed as "blunt inst

Implementation-defined behaviors in ODF spreadsheets

This topic seems to be of more general interest, given the discussions we've been having regarding the evaluation of 0^0. When we were writing up the specification of ODF 1.2's OpenFormula we had the goal to describe how real-world spreadsheet applications worked today. Where they worked the same

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > OTOH I haven't seen anyone issue a technical > veto on this change, which is really what's > required before Pedro actually needs to revert > anything. > I was waiting to see if there were any persuasive arguments in favor of breaking backwa

Re: Completed Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

Forwarding to Maarten who is not subscribed. Maarten: please go on and feel free to ask for advice if you need help with your first build. Andrea On 13/02/2013 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Welcome. have you tried to build the source code yet? This may be a good starting place http://wik

Re: [EXTENSIONS]: proposal to deprecate all extension snippets that are not packaged as oxt

Jürgen Schmidt wrote: it seems that nobody has stronger concerns against this proposal and I think no vote is necessary. I will draft a blog and a mail to our announce list that we will deprecate older package extensions with 4.0 and that we will support oxt packages only in the future. You may

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM, tony fre wrote: > hi all, > Hi Tony, thanks for writing and welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! > I love computers and since the first personal one came to brazil I've been > dealing with them. > > I played with BASIC on the old times . . . saw some assemb

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Honestly I'd say that if anything is clear, > it's that changing away from the status quo > currently enjoys zero consensus. > > As a Ph.D. mathematician who knows about Bourbaki, > all I can say is that line of argument is curious > here. Th

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

OTOH I haven't seen anyone issue a technical veto on this change, which is really what's required before Pedro actually needs to revert anything. > > From: Joe Schaefer >To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" ; Pedro Giffuni > >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:

Re: Draft: Advice for Students page

On 11/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/students.html ... Any other things that should be on the list? Nothing to add, good text. But I would link "Let us know" (first bullet point) and "[have your professor] contact us" (last one) to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-li

Interval arithmetic [was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0]

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > FWIW; > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > >>> >>> Of course, had I implemented quaternion math using Boost, no one would be >> complaining. :-P >>> >>> Pedro. >>> >>> [1] http://bikeshed.org >> Do it, do

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Honestly I'd say that if anything is clear, it's that changing away from the status quo currently enjoys zero consensus. As a Ph.D. mathematician who knows about Bourbaki, all I can say is that line of argument is curious here.  There are no authorities other than the spec to turn to about how you

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Thank you Ricardo; My suggestion would be to leave things as they are and give the matter a rest. I personally prefer to focus on other (more necessary) developments like updating python to version 2.7.4 which will be released this weekend. We have ample time for testing and if there is new infor

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

FWIW; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak  >> >> Of course, had I implemented quaternion math using Boost, no one would be > complaining. :-P >> >> Pedro. >> >> [1] http://bikeshed.org > Do it, do it, do it; PLEESSEEE. :-) > > Quatern

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Not answering any particular message, so top posting. Two points: a) Of course you can always redefine a function to "fill holes" on non defined points: for example, redefining sinc(x) = sin(x)/x to be 1 on x=0 makes sense because you obtain a continuous function... but that's on 1 variable: when

Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

hi all, I love computers and since the first personal one came to brazil I've been dealing with them. I played with BASIC on the old times . . . saw some assembly but I'm not a programmer - I don't like it. on the other hand I love to break the computer and fix. I cannot count how many times I b

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:05 AM, janI wrote: > +1 I like the page. Is it also worth publishing somehow as a blog so > outsiders notice it. > > I think you have a typo near the end "VCS revision". > Thanks, I fixed that, the typo Don noted and a few other spelling errors I noticed. I agree that

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Hello; > > Da: Norbert Thiebaud ... >On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> (OK, I guess it's better to re-subscribe to the list). >>> >>> In reply to Norbert Thiebaud*: >>> >>> In the Power rule, which *is* commonly used fo

Re: New page: Contributing Code

+1 I like the page. Is it also worth publishing somehow as a blog so outsiders notice it. I think you have a typo near the end "VCS revision". Have a nice day. rgds Jan I. On 13 February 2013 15:52, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, janI wrote: > > On 12 February 2013 23:19,

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > OK. I rewrote this section to be more positive: > > http://openoffice.apache.org/contributing-code.html "For larges codebases" -> "For large codebases" Don

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, janI wrote: > On 12 February 2013 23:19, Rob Weir wrote: > >> We had a thread before Christmas discussing code contributions and >> best practices for how someone could contribute code to multiple >> projects, e.g., AOO and LO. >> >> I've written this up, along wi

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:42 AM, janI wrote: > On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > >> >> If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and >> closing AndrewMacro.odt >> >> LO claims that much of their improvements are related to large Calc >> docume

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > > If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and > closing AndrewMacro.odt > That's a big one: Release the Kraken! The time to close the document (not saving) could be low-hanging fruit. Presumably th

Re: [EXTENSIONS]: proposal to deprecate all extension snippets that are not packaged as oxt

On 2/8/13 11:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 06/02/2013 janI wrote: >> I assume (without really knowing it) that there is an easy "upgrade" path >> for extensions currently not being an oxt to become one. We need to >> document (if not already done) this "upgrade" in a way, that motivates >> the

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

On 2/12/13 2:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Good morning. It is posted now. > > The URL is: http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/21_million_per_day > > Regards, > some coverage - http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/apache-openoffice-valued-107213 - http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/apache-openoff

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Hi, I reply to this mail, because I have some remarks to Andrea's statements (see below). But please excuse, if I (as german) perhaps use not always the right english words/expressions/definitions.) But first: Norbert Thibaud has cleared the mathematical questions and shown, that statements

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 13 February 2013 12:22, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/13/13 12:12 PM, janI wrote: > > On 13 February 2013 10:33, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 2/13/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote: > >>> On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < > and...@pitonyak.org > >>> wrote: > >>> > > If y

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 2/13/13 12:12 PM, janI wrote: > On 13 February 2013 10:33, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 2/13/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote: >>> On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak >> wrote: >>> If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, >> and closing Andrew

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 13 February 2013 10:33, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/13/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote: > > On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak >wrote: > > > >> > >> If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, > and > >> closing AndrewMacro.odt > >> > >> LO claims that much

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 2/13/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote: > On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > >> >> If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and >> closing AndrewMacro.odt >> >> LO claims that much of their improvements are related to large Calc >> documents. Might be

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

On 13 February 2013 01:18, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 2/12/2013 5:57 AM, Steve Lee wrote: > >> Andrew >> >> I think that binaries URL should be he following, at least for accessing >> the binaries. >> >> http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/#w7ia2

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 13.02.2013 08:28, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: (OK, I guess it's better to re-subscribe to the list). In reply to Norbert Thiebaud*: In the Power rule, which *is* commonly used for differenti

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 13 February 2013 00:47, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > > If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and > closing AndrewMacro.odt > > LO claims that much of their improvements are related to large Calc > documents. Might be nice to find and test their large test Ca