Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > It isn't. You raised a point that is indeed new. Nobody so far had > thought about the naming issue. But I agree that you have a > point here: > if it is a unique feature, it makes sense to at least think about a > possible cute

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:34 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"? > > SmartPanel ? Yes, not bad. That sounds good. Greetings, Jörg ---

Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 23/05/2013 Rob Weir wrote: So did someone already review it? I don't want to duplicate effort if this was already done. But since the readme is primary material for journalists it would be good to have it polished. It's not primary material for journalists, probably, since it's a rather u

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread F C. Costero
On 5/23/2013 5:29 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/23/2013 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that "SuperPanel" or "SmartPanel" ar

Re: email program

2013-05-23 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/5/20 Mechtilde : > Am 20.05.2013 06:45, schrieb Leonie Eastergaard: >> Hi does open office have a email program > > There is a free (as in freedom) E-Mal program named thunderbird from the > Mozilla Foundation. Or icedove. Albino

Re: svn git setup instructions.

2013-05-23 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/5/23 Regina Henschel : > Ariel is the expert here. But perhaps some sites help you, which I have > bookmarked: > https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnCrashCourse > http://jan-krueger.net/development/git-cheat-sheet-take-two > http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/git-svn/intro.html > http://trac.par

Re: Just an FYI! BZ OpenOffice seems to be down at the moment...

2013-05-23 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/5/23 Kay Schenk : > Hopefully we'll get it back soon. :/ ?? Sorry. Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: Is 3.4.1 still "incubating"?

2013-05-23 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/5/23 Andrea Pescetti : > On 22/05/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html >> >> Please, nobody should spend any time on this. It's not worth the effort. > > > I've seen other people confused by this, so I've just added a note to > specify why the filen

Just an FYI! BZ OpenOffice seems to be down at the moment...

2013-05-23 Thread Kay Schenk
Hopefully we'll get it back soon. :/ -- MzK "You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing." -- Leonard Peltier

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrew Rist
On 5/23/2013 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that "SuperPanel" or "SmartPanel" are good proposals and possibly "SmartBa

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
I don't if it's really to late for finding a handy name for the biggest new feature in AOO. This has to be defined by others. :-) However, if we have some time, I have to say that "SuperPanel" or "SmartPanel" are good proposals what can be done by this UI element: Use the panel to do you work

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jörg Schmidt wrote: reflect together about a better name for "sidebar", maybe we can find a better name. Call it "OpenBar" then. Open like OpenOffice. Bar like in Toolbar. And "Open Bar" like "get everything you want for free". Oh well. Everything You answer me, that's my suggestion is app

Re: Is 3.4.1 still "incubating"?

2013-05-23 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 05/23/2013 09:04 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 22/05/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html Please, nobody should spend any time on this. It's not worth the effort. I've seen other people confused by this, so I've just added a note to specify why the file

Re: Fw: [Report abuse here] [Extension Repository] Permanent spam on dict-de-DE_igerman98

2013-05-23 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Eliminated. It worth to say the beta site allow authors to manage spam by themselves. Look forward to go live sometimes in (early) June. Roberto 2013/5/23 Karl Zeiler : > Hi @all, > > Jörg Schmidt from the German user list gave me the tip to forward this > thread to the developer list: > > http:

Fw: [Report abuse here] [Extension Repository] Permanent spam on dict-de-DE_igerman98

2013-05-23 Thread Karl Zeiler
Hi @all, Jörg Schmidt from the German user list gave me the tip to forward this thread to the developer list: http://www.mail-archive.com/users-de@openoffice.apache.org/msg00502.html Regards Karl Karl Zeiler schrieb am Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 12:55: Hallo Liste, seit etwa drei Monaten wir

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrew Rist
SmartPanel ? On 5/23/2013 11:06 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? Like "Awesome Panel"? I'm not quite sure how your answer is to understand. (a) Is "Awesome Panel" a co

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Rob, Hi all, 2013/5/23 Rob Weir > > More of an analogy. When Firefox enhanced their address bar they > renamed it the "Awesome Bar". Not sure how it was translated. > Why not the name of its mother (in Impress) : TaskPanel ? A+ -- gw > >

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "Jörg Schmidt" wrote: > Hello, > >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] > >>> Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give >> a distinctive name? >> >> >> Like "Awesome Panel"? > > I'm not quite sure how your answer is to understand. > > (a) > Is

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Rob Weir [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] > > Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give > a distinctive name? > > > Like "Awesome Panel"? I'm not quite sure how your answer is to understand. (a) Is "Awesome Panel" a concrete proposal for a name for the sidebar?

Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 1:41 PM, "Jürgen Schmidt" wrote: > On 5/23/13 7:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On May 21, 2013, at 2:39 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" wrote: >> >>> On 5/19/13 6:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 17/05/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id2300

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" wrote: > On 5/23/13 2:20 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> >>> I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The >>> term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month >>> and we have >>> many other things to do. I feel it very mi

Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 7:33 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On May 21, 2013, at 2:39 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" wrote: > >> On 5/19/13 6:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> On 17/05/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id2300 this issue is still open and we should address it. I fix

Re: [RELEASE][TRANSLATION]: changes to the README file for 4.0

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 21, 2013, at 2:39 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" wrote: > On 5/19/13 6:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 17/05/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id2300 >>> this issue is still open and we should address it. I fixed the About >>> issue and plan to work on t

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Weir
On May 23, 2013, at 4:17 AM, "Jörg Schmidt" wrote: > Hello, > > Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? Like "Awesome Panel"? > OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. > > What I mean are terms such as "Navigator", "

Re: svn git setup instructions.

2013-05-23 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Jan, Ariel is the expert here. But perhaps some sites help you, which I have bookmarked: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSvnCrashCourse http://jan-krueger.net/development/git-cheat-sheet-take-two http://utsl.gen.nz/talks/git-svn/intro.html http://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/git-svn-

pootle server.

2013-05-23 Thread janI
Hi. We have to take pootle down for about 2 hours due to a urgently needed maintenance, sorry for the short warning. Downtime is expected to be: UTC 18:00 to UTC 20:00 max. rgds jan I.

Re: Alternative to ooo-extras?

2013-05-23 Thread janI
On 23 May 2013 17:54, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > janI wrote: > >> Same discussion runs on infra for apache-extra. Maybe we should move our >> things to apache-extra, and have them provide/maintain the service. >> > > It's already there, right? Well, the URL says it all: > > https://code.google.com/

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Risto Jääskeläinen
Hello! I my self like it is more panel than bar but sidebar is quite short term. And short names are somehow more easy. Anyway how about Frank panel. Our Frank is straightforward panel. Best regards Risto Jörg Schmidt [joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] kirjoitti: Hello, Would not it make se

Re: Alternative to ooo-extras?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
janI wrote: Same discussion runs on infra for apache-extra. Maybe we should move our things to apache-extra, and have them provide/maintain the service. It's already there, right? Well, the URL says it all: https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-extras/ So: ooo-extras is part of ap

Re: Need commit help

2013-05-23 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Jürgen, Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: On 5/22/13 7:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Ariel, thank you for correcting it. I have seen the wrong flag in my local source now. I hope, I remember next time, that inside Cygwin is not Windows and I have to use "ls -l" and not "dir". Does it mean we ha

svn git setup instructions.

2013-05-23 Thread janI
Hi. I have now been trying for some time to get git-svn working. Can someone help me getting it to work, by giving me the n-instructions I need (maybe we should make a wiki page). I want to be able to commit locally with my smaller changes, and in svn everytime I have something that works. git-s

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 2:20 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The >> term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month >> and we have >> many other things to do. I feel it very mistimed to start such a >> discussion now. > > You're right,

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> I understand it quite well but in the end the work have to done. The > term sidebar is not new and the work is ongoing since month > and we have > many other things to do. I feel it very mistimed to start such a > discussion now. You're right, a great discussion, would be at the present time,

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:23 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"? > > 2013/5/23 Jörg Schmidt > > > Hello, > > > > > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > >

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 1:02 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > >> we can start promote this feature already, we can create screencasts, >> can blog about it, can make clear where it comes from ... >> >> If LO copy the sidebar (and I am sure they will)

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread RGB ES
2013/5/23 Jörg Schmidt > Hello, > > > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > > > Perhaps "Toolpanel"? > > Yes, maybe. > > What I really am looking for is a term _that can be used without > translation into > all languages_. > > That's quite difficult, I think. Just consider that French p

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Perhaps "Toolpanel"? Yes, maybe. What I really am looking for is a term _that can be used without translation into all languages_. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > we can start promote this feature already, we can create screencasts, > can blog about it, can make clear where it comes from ... > > If LO copy the sidebar (and I am sure they will) it's a good > signal and > users will learn over

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 11:55 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello Jürgen, *, > >> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > >> well sidebar as name is now flowing around since months and now it is >> simply to late from my perspective. > > You're right, but ... > > We should, I think, also be care

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > Please also see the difference and the potential advantage for our program - > a sidebar is just a sidebar but a <...our special name for *our* sidebar...> > is a little bit more, is the original. +1 FC -

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Jürgen, *, > From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > well sidebar as name is now flowing around since months and now it is > simply to late from my perspective. You're right, but ... We should, I think, also be careful to promote our program perfectly. What relates to the

Re: Need commit help

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/22/13 7:27 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Ariel, > > thank you for correcting it. > > I have seen the wrong flag in my local source now. I hope, I remember > next time, that inside Cygwin is not Windows and I have to use "ls -l" > and not "dir". Does it mean we have now a minimal help file

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 5/23/13 10:16 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? > OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. > > What I mean are terms such as "Navigator", "Giesskanne" or "Datenpilot" (all >

Re: Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:16:55 +0200 Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? > OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. > > What I mean are terms such as "Navigator", "Giesskanne" or "Date

Find a better name for "sidebar"?

2013-05-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as "Navigator", "Giesskanne" or "Datenpilot" (all German). I think the sidebar is very welcomed by our u

Re: Alternative to ooo-extras?

2013-05-23 Thread janI
On 23 May 2013 09:26, Herbert Dürr wrote: > Just a heads up: > > We are using ooo-extras [1] as reliable mirror to the upstream locations > of third party code with non-permissive licenses. Today's google opensource > blog [2] says that this method will stop working in 2014. We need to find > an

Alternative to ooo-extras?

2013-05-23 Thread Herbert Dürr
Just a heads up: We are using ooo-extras [1] as reliable mirror to the upstream locations of third party code with non-permissive licenses. Today's google opensource blog [2] says that this method will stop working in 2014. We need to find an alternative. Herbert [1] https://code.google.com

Re: [buildbot] investigate nightly windows build

2013-05-23 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 22.05.2013 20:11, Andrew Rist wrote: On 5/22/2013 3:30 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 21.05.2013 09:53, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 17.05.2013 23:11, Andrew Rist wrote: [snip] I have seen that #621 of aoo-win7 also had this error and that you had again cleaned

Re: Is 3.4.1 still "incubating"?

2013-05-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/05/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html Please, nobody should spend any time on this. It's not worth the effort. I've seen other people confused by this, so I've just added a note to specify why the filename contains "incubating": http://svn.apache.or