.
Louis on the other hand seems to be accepted by the PMC and are surely also
a person that has experience.
I hereby recommend Louis be the new chair.
I will continue supporting the project as I have the last couple of years.
rgds
jan i
On Sunday, January 11, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts lui
a
difference.
+1
rgds
jan i.
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this.
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On Tuesday, January 6, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or
self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with
nominations.
We have 6
focus on.
Louis has not been so active lately, but I have no doubt that the future of
AOO (and opensource in general) is a major driving force for him.
rgds
jan I.
On 3 January 2015 at 13:37, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 02/01/2015 Michal Hriň wrote:
So here I chose some people
.
rgds
jan i
Regards,
Dave
On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or
self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with
nominations.
We have 6
to 5.x
normally means incompatibility and it not something that should be done
lightly, we are proud of keeping compatibility so watch out for new 4.x
versions.
rgds
jan i.
Warm Regards,
Michael
time and spirit
we have the challenges !
Dont forget opensource is not like a job, where you write a CV, its about
having fun !
rgds
jan i.
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
come back to this list if you have any
questions.
Remark building AOO the first time, can be a bit scary, but remember we are
many willing to help you.
have fun !
rgds
jan i.
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:57 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 4 January 2015 at 19:53, Alexandro Colorado j
On 2 January 2015 at 15:37, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Dňa 01.01.2015 o 23:16 jan i napísal(a):
On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that
can replace me (only for these specific
conflictsof course if the PMC group is active, this is not a
problem.and most importantly that person should having the backing of
the PMC group.
rgds
jan I.
So please go on with your nominations. We don't have strict rules about
eligibility. As I verified, nominees needn't be PMC
.
rgds
jan I.
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On 31 December 2014 at 17:44, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote:
Best free software of 2014: OpenOffice
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/best-free-software-of-2014-openoffice-1277669#null
Wishing everyone volunteering in Apache OpenOffice a Happy New Year!
YEAH !!!
, and
if I may add your personal life, reminding that we are all volunteers. You
have done alot for AOO and I personally hope for a great cooperation in
2015.
rgds
jan i
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:
I've been the OpenOffice Project Chair for two years, since
jan i
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:-)
How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ?
we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap
places.
rgds
jan i
Kind regards
Michael
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any progress in the discussion, would be nice to get a decidion so we can
start making the release.
rgds
jan i
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On 26 December 2014 at 13:11, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pesce...@apache.org
On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
jan i wrote:
any progress in the discussion, would be nice to get a decidion so we can
start making the release.
I believe we made progress on everything that is under our control. Maybe
it's good that I repeat
...@apache.org ? (at least as well to
that list).
rgds
jan i.
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and some loss to even things out.
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On 30 December 2014 at 23:39, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 30 December 2014 at 21:38, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I included annou...@openoffice.apache.org on the message I sent
yesterday
about
time is slowly getting short.
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for austin. In general
applicant on the same continent tend to get better scores, just as an
advice.
I am happy to help if somebody have questions about how to fill out our
forms.
rgds
jan I.
Regards,
Andrea
Hi.
It seems we have a lot of focus on ACNA which is very very good.but let
not forget that before that we have a little european event called FOSDEM.
We as AOO should not forget that event, since it is likely to attract more
AOO users than ACNA.
rgds
jan I.
Ps. Is it about time
and rejects it, when that
has happened a couple of times the message below will be generated.
Is there anything I can do on my side?
Most of the bounces are due to a full mailbox, so controlling that is one
step.
Is it worth reporting when it happens?
not really, there is nothing we can do.
rgds
jan
On 26 December 2014 at 00:21, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
jan i wrote:
It seems (as usual) that the discussion has died out, and nobody does
anything (my apologies in advance I am wrong, I would very much like to be
wrong).
You are wrong (so it's good news!), but not so
On 26 December 2014 at 13:11, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 26/12/2014 jan i wrote:
May I suggest that once you get access (no rush here, we need to prepare
the release first), that you create 1-2 PMC credentials so that access is
not lost if one credential gets locked
is stopping us from doing something that simple ?
If we want a 4.2 so much better, but lets do the simple things first.
And please lets not cloud this simple step, by missing buildbots etc.
just my opinion.
rgds
jan i.
them from you quite a while
ago). I thought we decided to remove wiki-publisher when we released 4.0,
for 2 reasons it is a plugin and the licensetext does not seem updated.
rgds
jan i.
And how can i clean a build?
cd trunk/main
source the build script
dmake clean
Regards
--
Ariel
webpage translation (through the same interface) so
we can ask all our translators to translate relevant parts.
We have to change every page slightly (add a special css and js) and the it
just works. I hope to be able to present this at FOSDEM.
rgds
jan i.
-Original Message-
From: Andrea
, I am very sorry.
no need to be sorry,this just shows you are human like the rest of us :-)
In the future, I will not use any Reply buttons to move off-list. That
way I'll have to get the address correct.
I do that, and end up sending you extra mails.
rgds
jan i
- Dennis
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
-- replying to --
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org javascript:;]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 07:51
To: dev
Subject: Digital signing release for windows.
[ ... ]
My suggestion is simple, lets
forget that all of the languages need to be done
I have a script, do when I want to generate I simply tell it which
languages..but yes it take calendar and cpu tine.
rgds
jan i
.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org javascript:;]
Sent: Thursday
for both ODF and OOXML.
rgds
jan i.
I'll dig up the specific filenames.
Since these scripts came from the bug database, the're the 'wild west',
could be generated from anywhere.
I really wish I had a test suite of AOO QA documents which exercised the
script abilities.
I realize scripting
On 25 December 2014 at 20:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
-- in reply below --
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:13
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: Digital signing release for windows
defining topics.
yes and no, the individual speakers have to submit their own proposals, but
the intention was that the program committee not only come up with
suggestions, but also find speakers, so that in the end e.g. a final AOO
track is made.
rgds
jan i
Regards,
Andrea
for that amazing period of time so be it.
rgds
jan i.
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On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
-- in reply to --
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org javascript:;]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 13:37
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:;
Subject: Re: Deflecting the Attack of the Clones
if one platform missed a library all platforms got
it in extern_dep.
rgds
jan i
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for
this environment. I will be following up on a different thread about this.
Does anybody know what the official EOL for centOS 5 is?
I could not find an official answer with google, but a centOS person told
me its mid 2015.
rgds
jan i
On Thursday, December 18, 2014, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de
wrote:
Hello,
we, Mechtilde and me, hope to see you at FOSDEM 2015.
I will be there, with apache stickers and a big smile.
rgds
jan i
Kind regards
Michael
Original Message
Subject: Your stand
more offended, he is not.but I am scared about the culture we have at
the moment which to me seems to more about finding excuses to why things do
not work, than to actually do something about them.
rgds
jan i.
On 16 December 2014 at 09:20, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Andrea
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/14 10:10, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
On 14/12/2014 jan i wrote:
On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Very honestly, I would like that we don't depend on individuals for
project resources
hi
FYI
as per request from pescetti. I have modifed the user charlie to have
admin right (type 3) on the IT forum.
enjoy
jan i
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On 16 December 2014 at 18:05, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
jan i wrote:
Now we have the next issue CentOS 5 versus CentOS 6. It is correct that
the
ticket is quite clear, so INFRA should have asked (and I dont know how
this
happened, at hipchat we actually discussed CentOS 5
would like to circulate and idea list along with an invitation to
submit talks/ sessions to dev, users, announcements, our social
networks and anyplace else -- university contacts, etc.
please remember talks must be submitted to the cfp page.
thanks for taking the initative
rgds
jan i
On 14 December 2014 at 18:40, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 14/12/2014 jan i wrote:
That is due to the simple fact that this vm is not in ldap nor does it run
puppet, These are not mandatory (only makes life easier).
OK, so where do I login? I mean, I assume
On 15 December 2014 at 15:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org
wrote:
Hi Jan, *,
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 03:06:01PM +0100, jan i wrote:
On 14 December 2014 at 18:40, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:
On 14/12/2014 jan i wrote:
That is due to the simple fact
On Sunday, December 14, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 10/12/2014 21:09, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
On 10 Dec2014, at 15:01, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Note that FOSDEM talks have a requirement to be technical. ...
Right; but at the same time, there are other options besides
after installation.
rgds
jan i
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com javascript:;]
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 15:56
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:;; Dennis Hamilton
Subject: Re: Signing AOO 4.1.1 (was RE: Budapest and thereafter
On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 11/12/2014 jan i wrote:
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 12/09/2014 08:31 AM, jan i wrote:
FYI, in case you have not noticed. INFRA-8768 (centOS buildbot for AOO)
took a huge jump today
about the open editors room, will it be saturday or sunday ? I
will problaly only be able to fly in saturday morning and leave sunday
evening.
rgds
jan i.
louis
On 03/11/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
FOSDEM 15 will be held at the ULB Campus Solbosch on Saturday, January
31, and Sunday
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/09/2014 08:31 AM, jan i wrote:
Hi
FYI, in case you have not noticed. INFRA-8768 (centOS buildbot for AOO)
took a huge jump today, and are very near completion. This was done by
the
infra Contractors
sometime discussing a local solution, but it turned
out to be vey costly (both in terms of real money and man hours). We then
say that symantic actually provide at least 80% of the solution we looked
at, so the choice was simple.
rgds
jan i
Juergen
On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/12/14 20:15, jan i wrote:
On 8 December 2014 at 19:50, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
javascript:; wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:37:41 +0100
Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de javascript:; wrote:
Am 12/08/2014
, I recommend a PMC vote,
even if its not strictly needed.
rgds
jan i.
It would still have to be project-managed in the sense that all of the
measures to preserve binary authenticity and provide accompanying binary
release management internal to AOO should be followed.
Still thinking out loud
Hi
FYI, in case you have not noticed. INFRA-8768 (centOS buildbot for AOO)
took a huge jump today, and are very near completion. This was done by the
infra Contractors.
Time to find somebody, that will install the AOO specific buildbot parts.
rgds
jan i.
On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org javascript:; wrote:
I don't know if this is helpful or not. I'm not in a position to check.
Thinking out loud:
There are two cases of signatures.
On 8 December 2014 at 11:24, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/12/14 00:49, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 12/05/2014 04:26 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 04/12/14 20:10, jan i wrote:
Hi all.
I am currently planning (with infra) to install an apache version of
opengrok
centOS buildbot or for that matter a 64bit, so we are not abandoning
anything, we are instead expanding.
I dont know if we made releases available on centOS earlier, but for sure
we did not do it with ASF buildbot.
rgds
jan i
--
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
On 8 December 2014 at 20:15, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 8 December 2014 at 19:50, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:37:41 +0100
Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 12/08/2014 06:31 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:19:17 -0800
Kay
a difference ?
AOO is a great project, please lets not kill it by silence and lack of
activiyif YOU care time is right to help.
just my opinion.
rgds
jan i
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On Sunday, December 7, 2014, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, jan i j...@apache.org javascript:;
wrote:
Hi
There was quite a number of AOO meetings in Budapest, with different
constellasions of people.
Of course no decisions were made
On Friday, December 5, 2014, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
Please be more specific. What do you see as corrupted.
Sorry for the lack of information
I see this: http://hpics.li/970be1f
With safari on ipad ios8 I see the same, but it works with IE on windows8
rgds
jan i
vm to help take load from both forum and vm.
This is of course a task, that takes some careful planning, and not
something I just plan to do a weekend where I have time.
I hope to be able to do this end of this year.
rgds
jan i.
Hi all.
I am currently planning (with infra) to install an apache version of
opengrok.
Is there anybody who can help with the configuration ?
rgds
jan i
will not be the problem, but moving 100G across the net requires a
lot of bandwidth in the endsthat is going to take quite a long time.
Getting a dvd/usbkey would be a lot faster.
rgds
jan i.
Regards,
Andrea.
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appropriate action.
Making forums read-only is pretty easy, its a matter of disabling login and
not allow anonymous posting. But then I will also ask the these forums are
removed from the daily backup cycle.
rgds
jan i.
On 23 November 2014 at 20:55, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:
Hi
at
least, find this to be a cornerstone in acquiring and keeping new
developers. Who knows in the future I might find others who share my point
of view.
rgds
jan i.
- Dennis
THINKING OUT LOUD
I see there are several more pages on the wiki about this project, so my
hypothesis may already
On 24 November 2014 at 13:14, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
jan i wrote:
Ideally we should have 2-3 admins for our wiki. When I look at the logs, I
cannot see any admin actions over the last couple of months, and when I
look at some of the new pages, I believe we are getting
HI
Just made it simpler for everyone interested, have a look at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/capstone2013/student_work
it contains all output from the project.
have fun.
rgds
jan i:
Ps. dont hesitate to ask if you have questions.
On 24 November 2014 at 12:23, jan i j
that are discussed off-list are supposedly
sent to the private list. There are very few; the last one was on 28
October 2014.
Bear in mind I am not PMC, so I do not monitor that list closely, but I am
sure someone will notify me in case my involvement is needed.
rgds
jan i.
--
Rory
Hi.
just a few remarks to avoid confusion about the build system, we worked on.
please see inside the orcnotes below.
rgds
jan i
On 24 November 2014 at 18:55, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for the very useful information. orcnotes below.
-- Dennis E
it. Thoughts ?
FYI, I am also admin of translate.apache.org, and we (infra) expect changes
in that service in 2014. I cannot give details now, but will post when I
know more.
Rgds
jan I.
On 18 November 2014 15:07, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/11/14 15:02, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 18/11/14 11:36, jan i wrote:
On 17 November 2014 23:54, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Vladislav Stevanovic wrote:
I can not open some a page
when there are bigger changes).
rgds
jan i.
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Andrea.
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Normally there are not that many accounts being created like e.g. with the
wiki, so more admins should not be needed.
Also remember you can always work offline (download the po files) or work
as guest, so a new user is not hindered in his/hers work.
rgds
jan i.
Regards, Hriň
On 13 November 2014 09:39, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Is it possible to gain admin (or higher) rights for account creation for
Pootle to speed up process ?
in general no, see my other mail.
rgds
jan i.
Regards, Hriň
On 13 November 2014 18:43, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Dňa 13.11.2014 o 18:23 jan i napísal(a):
On 13 November 2014 09:39, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Is it possible to gain admin (or higher) rights for account creation for
Pootle to speed up process ?
in general no, see
On 13/11/2014 22:58, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
jan i wrote:
On 13 November 2014 18:43, Michal Hriň wrote:
OK. I'm asking because I think that Andrea is only one person, who
creates
Pootle accounts for new volunteers
I'm not the only one who can, but I'm the only one who does. When I
created
availability.
I dont disagree, it just might force us (infra) to change what a admin
can do. RIght now admin role is similar to root.
If the project decides to go down that way, then implementing it is a
infra problemand NOT a reason not to go down that road.
Lets talk next week.
rgds
jan
On 13/11/2014 20:45, Michal Hriň wrote:
Dňa 13.11.2014 o 19:50 jan i napísal(a):
On 13 November 2014 18:43, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Dňa 13.11.2014 o 18:23 jan i napísal(a):
On 13 November 2014 09:39, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:
Is it possible to gain admin
and/or forum it can only be considered as quite good
numbers.
rgds
jan i.
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On 12 November 2014 15:38, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/11/14 14:55, jan i wrote:
On 12 November 2014 00:30, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
Here's the current total subscribers for the AOO mailing lists I
moderate:
announce 11,318
users 584
with the talks, thursday would be a perfect day.
rgds
jan i.
On 4 October 2014 22:08, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 04/10/2014 jan i wrote:
Thanks jürgen for the work you have done.
Sure, thanks Juergen for being a great, reliable and patient release
manager during these years.
In other words, I strongly believe we have to depend
, stop discussing and start doing !
rgds
jan I.
a few hours in advance,
many will already have made plans (like myself)
rgds
jan i.
Hi.
That is quite hard to guess, subscribed has a defined meaning (something
we tell new people all the time), you suggest that I read subscribed as
follow but then why not use that word instead, that way confusion can be
avoided.
rgds
jan I.
to read the mail).
I would complete the survey as a good committer, but the text *This
question is mandatory. Please check at least one item. *and no option
None made it impossible (I actually tried to save without having ticked a
box).
rgds
jan i
champion...but that
might also be of interest for AOO.
rgds
jan i
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a patch for defect ( or
enhancement) ?
Either through BZ (as you have done) followed by a mail on this list or by
simply mailing the patch here.
If its a patch for a known BZ issue, of course it should be attached to
that issue.
Lookiing forward to see more patches from you.
rgds
jan i
Please
to get this
going).
@andrea, patches will be most welcome, due to a recommendation from jake f.
(infra) we have made the repo RO, but I or peter will make sure your
patches goes into the code base very quickly.
rgds
jan I
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Founder, UX Productivity
pe...@uxproductivity.com
orcnote remark is in-line below (although this notation may
derail defective HTML presentation of plaintext containing angle brackets).
Re-subscribing to general-incubator now ...
Oh, and congratulations on joining the IPMC, Jan.
thanks a lot.
rgds
jan i
-- Dennis E. Hamilton
the others be an alias
(absolutely not one I prefer).
How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ?
rgds
jan I
the semantic, the editing is buried deep in the process model of
AOO, there are no clear seperation between functionality and
representation, as you would do in a modern program.
rgds
jan I.
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Founder, UX Productivity
pe...@uxproductivity.co pe...@uxproductivity.com
http
Hi.
Thanks to a (once again) good tip from andre, I found out why I could not
see the OOXML sources and control the code.
Be carefull when you upgrade svn client to newest, I had to do a fallback
before svn up would work correctly.
rgds
jan I.
On 4 August 2014 21:49, jan i j...@apache.org
, by using AOO in headless mode and
change to new code part by part.
But I agree with andre that an experiment, just moving a little part would
be a nice proof.
just my 2ct.
rgds
jan I.
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Founder, UX Productivity
pe...@uxproductivity.com
http://www.uxproductivity.com
, this is done for all events
we fund.
rgds
jan I.
Regards,
Andrea.
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On 10 August 2014 13:00, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 10/08/2014 jan i wrote:
It would be nice if at least the PMC group got knowledge about the size of
this fund.
Of course it does. See http://s.apache.org/Vcg and
http://s.apache.org/YqfA (links only accessible
On 9 August 2014 23:23, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 04/08/2014 jan i wrote:
Is this something for us ? I had a capstone project (build system for
windows) last term, and had quite some fun with the students.
Since you were the only one to participate in the program so
development, this develoment seems closed, I expect
there are good reasons for it, but items where many can have an opinion
(format conversion being a typical example) would be nice to discuss.
thanks in advance.
rgds
jan I
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