RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-13 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Michael, > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 10:00 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hello Jörg,

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-11 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello Jörg, please read what Matthias really wrote. There is _no_ sentence "Jörg is a liar." written by hin. So it is your own and very special allegation he might called you a liar. I wrote: "we know that you have another point of view regarding facts than some other participants of this l

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 9:08 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > > > Am 10.11.21 um 18:3

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Dave
On 10/11/2021 21:28, Kay Schenk wrote: > my thoughts > > Once upon a time, mailing list moderators were listed on the project > page -- openoffice.apache.org -- along with the mailing lists. I see > that this is no longer the case.  It might be a good idea to list the > moderators...but as Dav

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/9/21 20:25, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave: On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote: Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have had received from you and other PMC member

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 10.11.21 um 18:38 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: A mailing list is not a lawless space! But free speech is free speech - on mailing lists as anywhere else. Who claims freedom of opinion has to bear contradiction. Free speech has implications; sometimes it causes a lack of friends and understanding

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Marcus
Am 10.11.21 um 11:36 schrieb Dave Barton: On 09/11/2021 23:48, Marcus wrote: However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... why moderators should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the ASF ..." and why you think there is something secret? The answer to that "baited" ques

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 6:33 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hi Michael, > > "another point

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Marcus
Am 10.11.21 um 05:25 schrieb Dave Fisher: On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave: On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote: Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have had received from you and other PMC members previously. If you

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Matthias Seidel
r commitment in > the past > > Am 10.11.21 um 08:03 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: >> Hallo Mathias, >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 1:14 PM >>> To: dev@op

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Michael, > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:00 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hi Jörg, >

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
bject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? Hi all, I am SO sick of these toxic threads of a certain person... I don't want to read his conspiracy theories anymore, I am not talking about conspiracy theories here. Stop making such insinuations. "D." has become commit

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-10 Thread Dave Barton
Hi Marcus On 09/11/2021 23:48, Marcus wrote: > However, I'm curious to know what you mean with "... why moderators > should hold any more of an exclusive or covert role within the ASF ..." > and why you think there is something secret? The answer to that "baited" question is: Everybody with any k

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 6:30 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Am 09.11.21 um 13:13 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > >

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hallo Mathias, > -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 1:14 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hi all, > > I am SO

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave: >> On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote: Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have had received from you and other PMC members previously. >>>

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Marcus
Am 07.11.21 um 21:18 schrieb Dave: On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote: Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have had received from you and other PMC members previously. If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and extreme privacy challe

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Marcus
Am 09.11.21 um 13:13 schrieb Matthias Seidel: I am SO sick of these toxic threads of a certain person... I don't want to read his conspiracy theories anymore I also think I can say what I want. It's always understood differently and not trying to think about any attempt to change it. Let's

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Pedro Lino
> On 11/09/2021 12:13 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Let's stop this and go back to  work and move on with the project > instead of harming it. +1 Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additi

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi all, I am SO sick of these toxic threads of a certain person... I don't want to read his conspiracy theories anymore, but one thing: "D." has become committer and did stop his contributions shortly after. How should "D." become part of the PMC?! Let's stop this and go back to  work and move

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 11:44 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > I'm afraid, Marcus, we have a problem of underst

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 10:58 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hello, > > Am 08.

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Marcus
Am 08.11.21 um 20:13 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Hello Marcus, -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 5:57 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? Am 08.11.21 um 07:33 schrieb Jörg

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-09 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello, Am 08.11.21 um 20:13 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: I'm afraid, Marcus, we have a problem of understanding what "all" means. For me, this is the community and not a few privileged people who are in PMC. Maybe some may see it as a privilege. I see it as a (little) burden I bear voluntarily.

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Marcus, > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 5:57 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Am 08.11.21 um 07:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: &g

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-08 Thread Marcus
Am 08.11.21 um 07:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2021 7:48 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? when you want to talk about this with names then

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2021 7:48 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > when you want to talk about this with names then I invite

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2021 7:48 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Am 07.11.21 um 13:38 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: >

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Dave
On 07/11/2021 19:42, Dave Fisher wrote: >> Sorry to put it this way Dave, but this is the same answer that I have >> had received from you and other PMC members previously. >> >> If your statement is true, then we and the ASF have a very serious and >> extreme privacy challenge here: >> https://peo

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Nov 6, 2021, at 2:34 PM, Dave wrote: > > On 06/11/2021 19:26, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> >>> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave wrote: >>> >>> On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote: Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Marcus
Am 07.11.21 um 13:38 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2021 12:22 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? I wonder who you want to delete from the list

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2021 12:22 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > I wonder who you want to delete from the list *). >

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Marcus
Am 06.11.21 um 22:34 schrieb Dave: On 06/11/2021 19:26, Dave Fisher wrote: On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave wrote: On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote: Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list users...@openoffice.apache.org I

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 8:26 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > > > > On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave wrote

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 7:27 PM > To: Jörg Schmidt > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hello Jörg, > > you are so right. >

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-07 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 8:17 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Hi Michael, > > To be clear this no

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Marcus
Am 06.11.21 um 21:11 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: Am 06.11.21 um 20:26 schrieb Dave Fisher: The mechanism to contact moderators is to send an email to users-de-own...@openoffice.apache.org I've gotten one from Marcus, but it was really empty. I've just tried to find out who the moderators

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave
On 06/11/2021 19:26, Dave Fisher wrote: > > >> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave wrote: >> >> On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote: >>> Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and wa

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
:25 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm not the only one. I have gotten some of the spam postings in the past and rejected them. Bu

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Hello, Am 06.11.21 um 20:26 schrieb Dave Fisher: The mechanism to contact moderators is to send an email to users-de-own...@openoffice.apache.org I've gotten one from Marcus, but it was really empty. Kind regards Michael OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Nov 6, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dave wrote: > > On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote: >> Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: >>> following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list >>> users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam >>> emails would be rejecte

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave Fisher
rday, November 06, 2021 1:25 PM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? >>> >>> Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: >>>> I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm no

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
...@wtnet.de] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 1:25 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm not the only one. I have gotten some of the spam p

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Marcus, > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 1:25 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Ste

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Dave, > -Original Message- > From: Dave [mailto:b...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 11:45 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > I have been a moderator for some of our English lists sin

RE: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Michael, > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 12:36 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org? > > hello, > >

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Marcus
Am 06.11.21 um 12:36 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann: I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm not the only one. I have gotten some of the spam postings in the past and rejected them. But it seems so, I got not all. There should be a ban for some email addresses, but I'm busy at the moment

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
hello, I'm one of the moderators of users-de. IMO I'm not the only one. I have gotten some of the spam postings in the past and rejected them. But it seems so, I got not all. There should be a ban for some email addresses, but I'm busy at the moment. Because it's not trivial it would take som

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Dave
On 06/11/2021 10:30, Marcus wrote: > Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: >> following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list >> users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam >> emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action >> was

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Gavin McDonald
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 11:30 AM Marcus wrote: > Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list > users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam emails > would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no ac

Re: Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Marcus
Am 06.11.21 um 10:16 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action was taken, because there is spam again from the

Who moderates users...@openoffice.apache.org?

2021-11-06 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, following Dave's advice {1], I contacted one moderator of the list users...@openoffice.apache.org I know and was promised that spam emails would be rejected in future - unfortunately, however, no action was taken, because there is spam again from the sender on the list that I had specifi