Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Christian Jansen
David Fraser schrieb: Hi Christian Thanks for your offer! I think a wiki version of the Template would be a substantial aid to many people, and from the rest of the response on the mailing list I'm not alone in thinking that. Could you let us know if you start working on this - I presume

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Mathias Bauer
Thorsten Behrens wrote: Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not exclusively. Also developers will benefit from a spec if they have to refactor/change/extend the code later on. Believe me, I can't count the occasions any more where I would have been glad to have a specification for a

Re: [dev] Possible exploit potential in openoffice

2006-11-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann
James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Stephan Bergmann wrote: Caolan McNamara wrote: [...] Also, we really should also add... .section.note.GNU-stack,,@progbits That should probably be: #ifdef __ELF__ .section .note.GNU-stack,,%progbits #endif as explained on the url I put in my

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thorsten Behrens wrote: Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not exclusively. Also developers will benefit from a spec if they have to refactor/change/extend the code later on. Believe me, I can't count the occasions any more where I would

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Thorsten, However, far more important than a string review, IMHO, would be to drop German as a developer provided second source localization. Let's get rid of that. Aww, of course. I thought we already did that. :-/ +1 here. That's an obsolete requirement for an international project such

Re: [dev] The QuickStarter Spec.

2006-11-01 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Michael, I think there's some kind of agreement (or general direction, at least) in this thread that - *some* documentation of a feature is needed for various audiences - the form of the documentation should not matter - there needs to be a lightwight possibility to provide this

[dev] An attempt of a summary: specification process possibilities

2006-11-01 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi together, as I have the feeling that many discussions in our most beloved thread started to go around in circles I want to break out and focus the discussion by providing a personal summary of it. Please read this summary as a whole before you comment on single items, I really tried to cover

Re: [dev] Re: [framework-dev] [Fwd: [installation-dev] Updating to OOo 2.1 language packs]

2006-11-01 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi, Unfortunately I overlooked Olivers request to follow up in dev@installation.openoffice.org and so I unintentionally opened this side discussion. Sorry for that. Please let's continue in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mathias Bauer wrote: Oliver Braun wrote: with the move to the new numbering schema

Re: [dev] The QuickStarter Spec.

2006-11-01 Thread Uwe Fischer
Hi, Mathias Bauer wrote: Michael Meeks wrote: Thankfully the code works :-) But the very concept of rampant duplication of state all over the place is at root broken IMHO. Having unnecessary screenshots, duplicating bi-lingual strings etc. adds [AFAICS] nothing at all to an existing impl,

Re: [dev] How to store sensitive information

2006-11-01 Thread Mathias Bauer
Robert Vojta wrote: On 10/31/06, Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a password container that can collect passwords at runtime and keeps them. Currently we don't store passwords persistently (only in memory), though the implementation would be there. It uses a configuration

Re: [dev] How to store sensitive information

2006-11-01 Thread Robert Vojta
On 11/1/06, Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To force the password container to store passwords one line of code must be changed in uui/source/iahndl.cxx. In this case we should perhaps make it configurable wether passwords are stored or not in the future. Thanks for this hint ... In

Re: [dev] The QuickStarter Spec.

2006-11-01 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 13:01 +0100, Uwe Fischer wrote: Hi, Mathias Bauer wrote: Michael Meeks wrote: Thankfully the code works :-) But the very concept of rampant duplication of state all over the place is at root broken IMHO. Having unnecessary screenshots, duplicating bi-lingual

Re: [dev] The QuickStarter Spec.

2006-11-01 Thread Tor Lillqvist
on 2006-11-01 klockan 07:50 -0500 skrev G. Roderick Singleton: I think that you should read system as session. [...] This would mean that system is the wrong word but its use is likely harmless as *NIX users will not likely care and windows users are already familiar with the nomenclature.

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 17:42 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: I disagree. Esp. when the UI is changed significantly the UI-mockups are necessary. Both for finding flaws in the proposed design as well as for documentation. I'm well up for the UI team doing mock-ups and communicating

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... - unit testing

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Christian, On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 17:54 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: An unfair cite. ;-) lets look at the context contention: On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 23:57 +0100, Mathias Bauer wrote: You mix up some things here. Nobody said that we need a spec for each and every tiny

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Christian Jansen
Hi David, All, It would be great if we could continue the wiki discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this is the right place for stuff like that. BTW. The spec template macro problems are now fixed. Regards, Christian David Fraser schrieb: Hi Christian Thanks for your offer! I think a

[dev] Improving source documentation: CWS codecomments01

2006-11-01 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi *, in the wake of the spec discussion thread, people mentioned that they'd like to write down hard-won understanding of the code how things work somewhere. IMO the best place for nitty-gritty details and (self)justification why things are as they are is the code itself - most easy (and thus

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote: But we didn't write down a spec. We conceived of the idea, then implemented it, now we have it. The original conception of course was prolly inaccurate, no-one gets things right 1st time, we most likely have a solution that is now far better than that, similarly we

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Mathias Bauer wrote: Kohei Yoshida wrote: 2) The target audience is not very clear. Thanks to this thread, though, now I'm beginning to see who the specification documents are intended for (mostly for QA, right?). Not exclusively. Also developers will benefit from a spec if they have to

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
many people wrote: As mentioned by others: it is a good thing if writing (some sort of) specification can be made easier. OTOH, I've dóne it once, and it took me about three hours. Including studying the template and the related documentation at the Wiki - both very good IMHO. Next

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On 11/1/06, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Meeks wrote: But we didn't write down a spec. We conceived of the idea, then implemented it, now we have it. The original conception of course was prolly inaccurate, no-one gets things right 1st time, we most likely have a

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kohei, Kohei Yoshida wrote: While I agree with the gist of your statement, I must say this is not universally applicable to all forms of creative activities, of which coding is one. Often a conceived idea of a certain code design can be easily formulated in terms of programming code, but

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Behrens wrote: However: I've seen (and joined) a very lengthy and intense discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about all good things that using the Wiki would bring. About more community involvement especially. The Wiki came, but very little extra time, if any at all, has been

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Michael, *, On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 02:20:28PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 17:42 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: I disagree. Esp. when the UI is changed significantly the UI-mockups are necessary. Both for finding flaws in the proposed design as well as for

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi Cor, On 11/1/06, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kohei, I think it is party right what you write. Because I've some more experience is writing words than code, I don't have that 'problem' and maybe under estimate it. I have no doubt that expressing and formulating ideas into

Re: [dev] Bounty for performance improvements

2006-11-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
Utomo wrote: I am waiting and open for suggestions. Is there somebody can help me to determine how is the performance improvements measured ? Utomo I have a few comments: Performance should be quantified and explained by the submitter. In other words, the submitter should indicate how to

Re: [dev] Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

2006-11-01 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi Mathias, On 10/31/06, Mathias Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kohei Yoshida wrote: 2) The target audience is not very clear. Thanks to this thread, though, now I'm beginning to see who the specification documents are intended for (mostly for QA, right?). Not exclusively. Also developers

RE: [dev] Bounty for performance improvements

2006-11-01 Thread Utomo
Thanks for the suggestions. My original idea was. To make Ooo faster opening the Microsoft Office files. (but without adding memory usage by OOo) Especially for user with old computer, such as PIII with around 128 memory (which now mostly suffer from the huge memory usage by Ooo, and they

RE: [dev] Bounty for performance improvements

2006-11-01 Thread Kirill S. Palagin
-Original Message- From: Utomo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:07 AM To: dev@openoffice.org Subject: RE: [dev] Bounty for performance improvements Thanks for the suggestions. My original idea was. To make Ooo faster opening the Microsoft Office

[dev] uno:

2006-11-01 Thread qiufang . zhan
hi,everybody! I found a amazing problem, when I using replaceByIndex of XIndexAccess in so_active.cxx, whatever parameter ,the IllegalArgumentException always through, even if I use the return value of GetByIndex. the replaceByIndex definition is : void replaceByIndex( [in] long