Hi *,
Especially, the DLLs on the website use msvcr80.dll, while of the
ones in the installer, some use msvcr90.dll and others (ones not
actually used by OOo, perhaps?) use msvcr80.dll.
Actually, *all* of the Mozilla libraries should be linked against
msvcr80.dll, while all of the pure OOo
Hi Sophie,
Does one of you recognize his baby and could enlighten us (L10n people
in cc of the mail) on what it is supposed to be/do:
[Panel Deck Tab Bar]
This string is located in the openoffice/accessibility/source/helper.po.
With the integration CWS slidecopy, a feature became
Hi Terrence,
A website page about building OOo says that non-product builds are
used almost exclusively within Sun. For a long time, I incorrectly
took that to be a warning that they are hard to accomplish rather than
merely a description of a regrettable state of affairs. Perhaps we do
Hi Terrence,
Since I created issue 110236
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=110236 yesterday, I
have encountered many occurrences.
I have some time available. Do you have any suggestions about what this
means
usually, it means somebody did something like
char* foo = new
Hi Thorsten,
recently I was idly browsing through commit mails, and noticed two
patterns that seem to have gotten into wider usage:
* prefix abstract classes with an 'I' - presumably not to make it
look as fashionable as an iPhone, but rather to denote it's an
'interface' ;)
* use
Hi Oliver,
Is it correct, that oDatabaseContext.getElementNames() will return the
displayed name
(shown in database brwoser) and not the registered Name shown in Tools -
Options ?
for example the macro below will return My Database, not mydatabase
node oor:name=RegisteredNames
Hi Thorsten,
just playing with a VS8.0 build (visual studio 2005), that according
to the build guide is still a supported compiler -
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Windows_Build_Requirements
I was about to ask where do you read something about 2005
Hi Stephan,
Not necessarily. The point is that triggered assertions need to be
sufficiently rare.
Okay, perhaps we can agree to strive for this goal first, and postpone
the rest of the discussion. Perhaps we can try aborting discussions, and
see how they work, perhaps we have other ideas
Hi Mathias,
I tend to like the idea of using non-pro builds in QA, but we must
recall why we have stopped to do that in the past. Rüdiger mentioned the
performance problem, maybe there have been others.
Would be interesting to know. The only thing I heard in the past
whenever I asked is, hmm,
Hi Björn,
As said before an aborting assertion should only be used for corrupt
internal state.
Well, to me that wasn't that clear 'til now.
If we add unrecoverable before corrupt (and here we're back at the
question of how an office suite should behave to the user in case of
internal errors,
Hi,
issue 109142 (http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109142)
requests to change the behavior of assertions (OSL_ASSERT/DBG_ASSERT and
friends) to abort if their condition is not met. The current behavior is
that the assertion text is reported to the user, usually by a message box.
Hi Ruediger,
- QA should use non-product builds *only*. Yes, I am not kidding about
this. An assertion which fails indicates a *bug*, that's the very
original intention of assertions: report bugs. Speaking strictly,
QA which refuses to use non-product builds refuses to do their job,
Hi Rich,
(non-product, i assume ?)
oh, it does. if you want any testers at all from the community :)
it was discussed almost a year ago on this same mailing list - if you
want testers, make test builds usable.
On the medium run, it indeed might be interesting to give out
non-product builds
Hi Bjoern,
I am one of the devs that rarely use a non-pro build, but not because
it's unusable 'cause of the many assertions, but because there are
simply to many differences from the product build in them, causing
issues (first of all: annoying build breakers).
So you prefer not using them,
Hi Stephan,
However,
contrary to how you read it below, I never intended to suggest that
aborting on an assertion was not appropriate in a product build. It is
my firm belief that a program that aborts upon assertions is arguably
more robust than one that carries on (however paradoxical
Hi Bjoern,
- to get rid of DBG_ASSERT, because it makes absolutely no sense to
have both DBG_ASSERT and OSL_ASSERT).
Welcome to the How should our diagnostics system look like discussion.
I think we started that topic at least three times in the last 4 years :)
- to move all the
Hi Bjoern,
With assertions being assertions and give up meaning reporting it,
thats exactly the desired behavior.
Current situation:
- assertions might be anything from a informal I didnt expect this
external data to a critical internal state corrupt
Desired situation:
- assertions
Hi Bjoern,
Assertions should be tested with the common tests (cwscheckapi has
decent code coverage) preventing the non-pro master to become unusable.
Ah!
Did you know that testtool, the program for running automated UI level
tests on OOo, can capture and report assertions?
If you claim that
Hi Mathias,
starting with the DEV300m72 build there is a new module called editeng
that was split off from svx.
...
This is the second step in the continuing effort to reduce the size of
the svx module. Though a few unnecessary files could be removed, this
will not reduce the code size of
Hi Stephan,
I just embarked on a new project, namely to clean up and consolidate the
various test frameworks and corresponding tests available in the OOo
build environment.
That#s highly appreciated!
- The so-called UNO-API and Complex tests. These are located in
*/qa/unoapi and
Hi Cédric,
Hum... I have found out that some HID are defined in svx/inc/helpid.hrc
and svx/source/src/app.hrc. What's the difference between those two?
Should I add the new HIDs in both files as well?
No, please don't. Put your new ID in the same file as other IDs around
where your new ID
Hi Cédric,
For the CWS cbosdo01, I'm adding some HIDs and removing one. What is the
best way to proceed with those numbers?
In one case, I only need to add a few HIDs. For the moment, I have added
them at the end of the block containing the other HID of the dialog: is
it correct?
Yes.
Hi Oliver,
And how does oo convert from MapAppFonts to pixels ?
css.awt.XUnitConversion should allow this. The existing documentation at
http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/awt/XUnitConversion.html
is somewhat sprase, this improved in the 3.2 version, which is not yet
online
Hi Bjoern
- map files
- explicitly setting a compiler flag in the make file
- XX_DLL_EXPORT/XX_DLL_IMPORT/XX_DLL_PRIVATE and friends
However, using the XX_DLL_PRIVATE and friends should be enough for
everyone, right?
At least we'd need a makefile-clause for setting a default, /me thinks.
Hi Samual,
It is suggested in other forum posts that no developers are working on
Xforms
This is true, sadly. There are no concrete plans, not to mention
timelines, to enhance the XForms support.
Ciao
Frank
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Hi Stephan,
(And having three ways to request something
would be worse than having two ways, which already is worse than having
only one way. So while we are at it, if you stick with an environment
variable, what good is it to additionally have the dmake switch?)
Consistency, for one. See
Hi Stephan,
My gut feeling (admittedly) is that it is not too uncommon that some
poor (inexperienced) soul pastes some stretch of its (default) build
output into a mail to d...@ooo crying for help on why their build break,
and the details of the executed command lines do give us clues to
Hi Stephan,
What shell are you using, hombre? VERBOSE=TRUE dmake is ca. as many
keystrokes as dmake verbose=true (not counting the little finger's
duty on the caps key). ;)
Uhm. Learned something new today ;)
Ciao
Frank
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Hi Christian,
build --html --dontgraboutput
that way the output will not be interleaved
Hmm, never tried that, and admittedly somehow cannot believe that the
output of the different processes is /not/ interleaved then, but even if
so: You cannot specify this when you start a build on a build
Hi Christian,
The bots should use that - if not, complain at the admins of the
corresponding bots.
Okay, will have a look on this when I next time have a build problem on
a bot.
If you need to use some magic environment variable to see why the
build did broke, the default is wrong. My
Hi Stephan,
Too much trouble. (Plus, I will definitely not globally set an
environment variable VERBOSE to anything. Who knows what strange side
effect that would have on completely unrelated programs. If you had at
least named it OOO_VERBOSE...)
I think we can easily change this in a
Hi,
as discussed a while ago in d...@ooo, CWS boost134 introduced a recent
boost version (1.39) into the OOo build. If you're building with
system-boost, 1.38 is required, at least.
Ciao
Frank
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- Sun Microsystems
Hi Regina,
I have written some issues for CWS printerpullpages. But I didn't know
which component to use and to whom I should assign it. I guess, that it
makes no sense to run through the normal process, because it is a CWS.
Which component shall I use and to whom shall I assign it? I
Hi Kendy,
But anyway, 'trunk' or 'main repository' (for DEV300), 'feature repository'
(for OOO300, OOO310, ...), and 'release repository' (for CWSes) sound best
to me.
Assuming you mixed the last two, as chloph outline: I don't think that's
a good idea.
As long as we do not have a
Hi Eike,
However, having the boost math lib would be of great benefit for Calc,
so I strongly vote for possibly the latest version of boost that's
available, but at least 1.35
I didn't hear any strong objections against using 1.39 (or 1.38 at least
for system-boost), so I think I'll go for
Hi Regina,
What changes are needed for my configure call?
configure itself didn't change, you still need --enable-mozilla.
Do I still need the old mozilla files? Configure complains, that they
cannot be found. But perhaps there should be a change somewhere else?
I have found in the
Hi Rene,
The code as-is now will fail to build/work with system-boost 1.39,
I assume?
Most probably. Didn't explicitly try that, though.
Ciao
Frank
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- Sun Microsystems
Hi Caolán,
We've been building with 1.39 for some time without any noticeable
problems
good to know, thanks.
except for one little buglet in the function_template header
where a #if !defined(BOOST_NO_EXCEPTIONS) is in the wrong place.
Yeah, stumbled upon this, too.
Thanks Ciao
Frank
--
Hi Rene,
So we either need something like this (when did they change that?):
[configure patch]
I'd prefer that. Making the source code dependent on different boost
versions (even if it's only about different headers to include) is too
prone to breakage, IMO.
Ciao
Frank
--
- Frank
Hi Rene,
Or invent a nice solution that does auto-downloads, and switch a few
other huge external libs to that (like icu). ;)
Nice idea.
That would be a problem for some builders unless you don't download it
when the file is there...
Sure.
For example, for Debian requiring any form of
Hi Rene,
command - where's the no net access from here onwards-line drawn?
After the download of the sources.
Then let's define download the pre-requisites as a sub task of
download the sources :)
Finally, there might be people who could suggest that the pre-req-folder
could be maintained
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