Re: [OSM-dev] The OSM reference map/the default map style on osm.org
I believe when it's referred to as the the reference map people are just commenting how it's (understandably) become the De Facto standard. It's on the osm.org homepage and people go there and click edit to change the map. When they click view they expect/want to see their changes. For a short time the layer names were displayed as buttons on the map. With the big redesign/rebuild the buttons are now hidden under an unlabelled icon and not the first item in the menu. I think that had been helping people understand the concept of different maps/layers. This page (and the guidelines it links to) are probably of interest to you: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tiles On 30 August 2013 12:43, Sandor Seres sandor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, during the latest discussion-wave related to the default rendering stiles someone (I think Peter K.) used the notion reference map for the OSM Slippymap. If this is so, I need some help to understand - in what sense is this map the OSM reference map? 1. Is this the most correct map (the decoration/styling is irrelevant) that is possible to be produced/constructed using the OSM source data? or 2. Is this a map that perfectly reflects the OSM source data-set as is, with all logical and other errors? The question may sound banal but it is essential to many mappers that are extensive users of the OSM source data. These mappers, of course, compare their maps with other's especially with the OSM reference map. Thanks, Sandor. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Default map style on osm.org
I think it would be fun/good to have the default map be a simple wireframe render (maybe with all the attributes shown as labels, and allowing overlapping of them). It wouldn't be the best map, but it would point out we have an incredible amount of data and that's what OSM is firstly about. The website should then clearly point people to some other layers/renders though. I don't think there is a public tileserver that is wireframe though, let alone one that meets the guidelines for inclusion on osm.org. On 29 August 2013 19:12, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: Christoph Hormann wrote It always amazes me how much the map style influences the mapping practice, not only by obvious tagging for the renderer but also in the form of subtle priorities. Having two separate styles - a 'data verification' style and a 'presentation style' would help reducing this effect. It is an interesting question if that would be indeed the case. I believe that one of the main motivating factors for many mappers for putting in all the effort of mapping is the reward of contributing to something important and big and being able to be proud of the result. That is imho why you see those subtle shifts in priority depending on what is displayed on the main map. It is simply more rewarding to work on something that is perceived to be more meaningful. However, for this to work, the main style needs to have a certain popularity among end users including being embedded into third party websites. If you now split the styles into one presentation style and a data verification style, then the data verification style instantly looses that appeal as it will only be viewed by a few. Recently there has been a lot of talk about gameification of OSM. In my opinion, one of the most powerful gameifications of OSM has been to have a prominent map shown on osm.org and have it update on a minutely basis. It really is a rather powerful reward to see your effort being directly incorporated into the in production map within minutes which can and _is_ viewed by millions of people. It is likely a much stronger reward than any artificial badge or points and has the advantage it is much less likely that people will manipulate things to game the system. Well, I guess you do get gaming the system to some degree as well in form of mapping for the renderer. So I think the main map really does need to strike a delegate balance between, and cater for both the presentation style and data verification style despite the fact that they are somewhat contradictory. Imho, the solution of cleaning up the low zoom tiles to look good for general use and then increasing or at least maintaining the detail on z18, z19 (and z20) is perhaps the best compromise we can achieve. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Default-map-style-on-osm-org-tp5775267p5775543.html Sent from the Developer Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] GPX Planet Dump
-Original Message- From: Peter Gervai [mailto:grin...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 April 2013 13:50 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: - This dump only includes the data inserted into the database (lat, lon, Risking to sound way too negative I have to ask what is the point of creating gpx dumps with the same data content as API queryable data? My original request - years ago - came up because I missed additional data contained in the GPX files, especially HDOP values and waypoints. As far as I see this dump will not contain either; basically you dump what anyone could dump by querying the API, you only save the resources for not doing it one-by-one, right? If you followed that argument through then you'd also be able to say that there's no point in publishing the planet file each week, since it's all queryable via the API. The point of publishing all of the GPX data is, just like the planet, when you're doing something on a larger scale than would be sensible, polite, or in line with the usage policy for the API. Gregory ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Highway Statistics: counting the number of roads along a junction/roundabout
Just to point out that most junctions and roundabouts won't actually be members on junction relations. The relations tend to only be used for complex junctions. I'd also point out that you'll need to keep in mind your handling of divided highways, where you'll have at least two portions of highway with oneway in differing directions. I'm sure that you'd want to count the various parts of the divided highway as just one road though. When I've done something similar in the past I've queried a copy of the data stored in the usual Postgres schema output by osm2pgsql. I was able to for points where the roads off of a roundabout intersected the roundabout. It was hardly a terribly efficient way of going about it though. Gregory From: Martin Alegre [mailto:tin.ale...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2013 11:27 To: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-dev] Highway Statistics: counting the number of roads along a junction/roundabout Dear all, I need to generate some statistics on highways. More precisely, given an OSM file of a city, I would like to find out which is the average number of roads along a junction/roundabout? Does anybody has some experience doing that? Given the OSM documentation, it seems to be, that the only way to do that is by looking for relation's, right? My intuition is that if inside a given relation ... /relation, a junction exists, then the rest of way's inside that relation are the roads along that junction. Is this reasoning correct? I'm thinking of using Osmium for that purposes. Best ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Heads up: Postgis issue when upgrading to FC18
Just a heads up for anybody planning on upgrading their FC17 system to the newly released FC18. The new release includes Postgres 9.2, but the Postgis version supplied is still compiled against Postgres 9.1, hence is not compatible. More on this issue here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multipleid=872710 id=872710 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Karlsruhe Hack Weekend, 23-24 Feb
On 5 January 2013 15:12, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, PS: If you miss this one don't worry - we'll likely have two more in 2013. -- Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof. This year I'm really trying to improve my German towards tourist-level, and then find some reasons(not hard) to make trips to Germany. I don't think it will happen for February, but maybe later in the year. Although I won't be able to contribute to conversations in German about mapping and developing. I probably need to encourage some other internationals to make a trip for a hack weekend, or I'll just be the annoying Brit sitting in the corner. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Reverts from the woodpeck_repair account
On 3 January 2013 14:43, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Don't deliberately enter data incorrectly for the renderer We should add : Don't accept tag changes until the renderer supports it. Pieren The reason that OSM doesn't do depreciation is that there is no such thing as the renderer. You don't know if I have a private(or lesser known) render that relies on a used tag. And it's not limited to renderers, but editors, data sources, and non-visual uses/applications (such as driving directors). Introducing new tags should also take this into account. For example we had railway=rail and railway=tram type tags. I might make a map that displays railway=* as a grey line (because I'm more interested in some other detail but I want tracks for context). For a short time railway=historic got into popular use. My map would then start showing railways where they weren't! A better choice for the new tag is historic=railway because nobody is going to render that as an existing railway by mistake. Slowly people can start recognising the historic tag if they wish to. I can't remember the exact tags in the true version of this story, I think it was actually to do with stations. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Timestamp in PBF files
-Original Message- From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: 21 November 2012 08:44 To: Scott Crosby Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Timestamp in PBF files [Snip] To be self-contained, it should be sufficient to include the baseURL from configuration.txt, no? So maybe: optional string writingprogram = 16; optional string source = 17; optional sint64 timestamp = 18; optional sint64 replication_timestamp = 19; optional string replication_url = 20; I don't know if the sequenceNumber from state.txt adds any value, if it does then one could throw that in as well. I think including the sequenceNumber will be useful for making it easy to determine where to continue replication from once the PBF file is processed. Just to clarify that the replication_url will need to include the minute / hour / day as appropriate for the sequenceNumber to apply to the appropriate sequence, i.e. from the configuration.txt like you say. Gregory ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Osmosis - Cutting out a bounding box from a diff file (.osc)
Stéphane, Yes, you’re right in your analysis of how the co-ordinates are stored in the slim mode tables. This’ll help confirm it for you: Executing this query against your Postgres database: select lon, lat, ST_X(ST_Transform(ST_SetSRID(ST_Point(lon / 100, lat / 100),900913),4326)), ST_Y(ST_Transform(ST_SetSRID(ST_Point(lon / 100, lat / 100),900913),4326)) from planet_osm_nodes where id = 19; Yields: Lat;lon;st_x;st_y 679034492;-2304090;-0.206971841461138;51.9458701799331 Request the same node from the API: http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/19 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/19 Yields: … node id=19 … lat=51.9458753 lon=-0.20698 … … Gregory From: Stéphane Henriod [mailto:s...@henriod.info] Sent: 06 September 2012 06:56 To: Ramas Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Osmosis - Cutting out a bounding box from a diff file (.osc) Hi again everybody! I am trying to implement the post-processing solution: removing all records in planet_osm_ways that are completely outside my bounding box. For this I first need to find out all the nodes outside the bounding box... The problem is that the x and y coordinates of planet_osm_nodes seem to be plenty wrong. My first record, for instance, has lat = 450768421 lon = 796483777 I assume that these are in srid 900913 but, if they are, they are way outside the limits of the 900913 srs. Actually, I just realised that they are systematically wrong by a factor 100. The correct coordinates should be something like: lat = 4507684 lon = 7964837 Have I done something wrong? or is there a known (or unknown?) bug with osm2pgsql? The geometries of the useful tables (line, point, polygon, roads) seem correct, but the x/y columns of the temporary tableshave this problem... Cheers Stéphane -- Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux -- Albert Einstein A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you. -- Nicolas Bouvier Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info http://www.henriod.info/ On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Ramas ies...@ramuno.lt wrote: You can check tool osmupdate which has option to clip data outside boundaries. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate#Applying_Geographical_Borders On 5 September 2012 16:06, Stéphane Henriod s...@henriod.info wrote: thanks for your anwers! But it looks like I have a problem now... 1. I need to keep the tables ways, rels and nodes because of the diff updates 2. Those 3 tables will continue growing up with each new diff, until I reach the storage capacity of the server The only solution I see is a post-processing that will erase from PostGIS all the nodes lying outside my bounding box + all the ways using one of thses nodes + all the relations using one of thses nodes or one of these ways. Except if anyone else has a magical solution... ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] baseball cards, user stats and multiple accounts
I like the stats. I'm not so familiar with baseball cards, but I think top trumps are fun. My username is LivingWithDragons. For top trumps, I would add how many performances/songs you've done. Ivan, I think we now match on conference attendance. The gap is an interesting stat. I often tag my changesets with survey_date, and so I wonder what my gaps between surveying and editing would be like. On Friday, 7 de September de 2012 01:32:02 Robert Norris escribió: How about stats on the 'quality' of changeset comments somehow. Basically longer the better! And lower score if changeset comments are repeated. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Duplicate IDs
It is a wiki, it can be updated by anyone. I tried to look for a sensible place to clarify about ids. This seems to be one place. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Elementsaction=historysubmitdiff=798652oldid=796271 Please do edit the wiki if what I've written is wrong, or if you find any other place where element ids should be explained. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] 23 ideas for osm and its forks
Though I don't watch the mailing list much, this looks like a troll's list. e.g. host the CC-by-sa data that will be deleted. Although I'm pretty sure the OSMF's plan for ODbL switch makes it clear the CC-by-sa data will not be deleted and will remain available. I got bored after that. On 13 January 2012 01:00, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello world, I have written down all my ideas so far on an ideascale i setup http://fosm.ideascale.com/ here you have 23 new ideas for #osm, independent of how they are implemented, all applicable to osm commonmap fosm etc. you are invited to join the conversation. lets make the world a better place happy hacking, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Hack Weekend reminder
Ah you're kidding me. I have a train booked to London on the Sunday evening. I'll probably be hacking away that weekend too. Mind you, I have too many Sunday commitments now to try and change my train tickets. Greg. On 2 November 2011 15:31, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: As Matt wrote earlier in October, there's a Hack Weekend coming up in London: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Nov_2011 26/27 November. You need to sign up on the wiki page. Hope to see some of you there. cheers Richard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Hack Weekend reminder
On 8 November 2011 15:29, Idris Sersoub idrissers...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I'd like to join to discover and get familiar with the OSM community, can I just add my name on the wiki page? Cheers Idris Well you also need to turn up inorder to get familiar. ;) I think adding your name to the list is required to please the building security, don't worry if you signed up and then can't/don't make it. Last time (or at least the last time I went), we had someone turn up for a couple of hours who wasn't a programmer and I don't think had made an edit to OSM at that point. Although if you are less programming-minded, you may want to turn towards the going-to-the-pub time. The London OSMers also have regular evening pub meetups, that don't have to be code-focused. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London#Events -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...
Well, by routing I mean the ability to show a navigable route on the nap from one point to another. On Thursday, March 10, 2011, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:01:37 -0500 Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently working on a solution for one of my own projects (not GNUstep related) which involves routing. I'm wondering if there are any Mac (NOT IPHONE OR IOS) based solutions which can do what I'm after. Answering that question would be easier if we knew what you're after. Involves routing is a bit on the vague side ;) Bye Frederik ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...
Frederik, On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 03/10/2011 03:46 PM, Gregory Casamento wrote: Well, by routing I mean the ability to show a navigable route on the nap from one point to another. I am still unsure if you are looking for code that does the map display and all, or just a routing engine that spits out a number of lat/lon pairs. I don't know if you want routing for a small area for for the whole world; where will your data be coming from, and are you aware that data for the whole world has to be preprocessed before it can be used for routing? Are you perhaps not looking for a routing engine with all the data storage and preprocessing that entails, but for an API where you request something over the network? The last one is what I'm looking for. Do you want to compute thousands of routes or just a few? Hundreds or thousands. Do you need routing for different profiles (pedestrian, lorry, etc.) or just a standard profile? You might want to look at Gosmore (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gosmore) - Public Domain (thus easy to integrate into your application), and reportedly compiles under OSX. Bye Frederik I will take a look. Thank you so much for your help. -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...
I guess what I would really like is one which uses Objective-C, if possible so that it would be easily integrated into a Mac OS X/Cocoa application. GC On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: Frederik, On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 03/10/2011 03:46 PM, Gregory Casamento wrote: Well, by routing I mean the ability to show a navigable route on the nap from one point to another. I am still unsure if you are looking for code that does the map display and all, or just a routing engine that spits out a number of lat/lon pairs. I don't know if you want routing for a small area for for the whole world; where will your data be coming from, and are you aware that data for the whole world has to be preprocessed before it can be used for routing? Are you perhaps not looking for a routing engine with all the data storage and preprocessing that entails, but for an API where you request something over the network? The last one is what I'm looking for. Do you want to compute thousands of routes or just a few? Hundreds or thousands. Do you need routing for different profiles (pedestrian, lorry, etc.) or just a standard profile? You might want to look at Gosmore (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gosmore) - Public Domain (thus easy to integrate into your application), and reportedly compiles under OSX. Bye Frederik I will take a look. Thank you so much for your help. -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...
This seems to be a good start. :) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Daniel Sabo daniels...@gmail.com wrote: Entirely not what your looking for (no routing, just map display), but the only Cocoa OSM app I know of is: http://code.google.com/p/maps4mac/ - Daniel On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gregory Casamento greg.casame...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, In my original posting I mentioned the Mac API using Cocoa. There are PLENTY of iPhone things going on. What I need is something on the Mac using AppKit/Foundation, not on the iPhone. While such a thing would be a modest porting effort, it would be a porting effort nonetheless. :) GC On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/10/2011 10:22 AM, Gregory Casamento wrote: but for an API where you request something over the network? The last one is what I'm looking for. http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/show/iphone-sdk ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Newbie questions, introductions and questions about Mac/Objective-C based mapping/Map View using openstreetmap...
Kind Greetings and Salutations to everyone, I'm completely new to this list, so let me introduce myself. I am Gregory Casamento, I'm the lead developer of the GNUstep project. I am currently working on a solution for one of my own projects (not GNUstep related) which involves routing. I'm wondering if there are any Mac (NOT IPHONE OR IOS) based solutions which can do what I'm after. I'm fully capable of porting one of the existing iOS/UIKit solutions to the Mac, but that is an effort I would much rather avoid if at all possible. Please let me know if anyone has any input, suggestions etc for me as it would be very greatly appreciated. :) Thank you so much, GC -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Potlatch2 - ways all unrecognised?
On 29 January 2011 11:26, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There's definitely something off somewhere. I could not use Potlatch 2 for editing since last night. I've never been able to bring myself to use Potlatch, but I don't think that's the same bug. /trolling -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Grid lines
-Original Message-
From: Jan-Benedict Glaw [mailto:jbg...@lug-owl.de]
Sent: 17 January 2011 15:45
To: Steve Hill
Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Grid lines
On Mon, 2011-01-17 15:31:43 +, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Andy Allan wrote:
My approach would be to generate a table with the gridlines in it,
but
I haven't tried.
I was starting to think that might be the way, but was just curious
if
anyone had come up with a better programmatic method (e.g. a fancy
select
sql statement that generates the appropriate geometries on-the-fly or
similar, since they are regular repeating geometries - this should be
reasonably easy for lat/lon grids but the other types aren't quite as
regular so would require some thought)
It's probably not that hard to use PostgreSQL's generate_series() to
build the grid lines. But OTOH, I'd somehow expect the map drawing
application (or library) to generate them. There, you'd probably
better decide what kind of grid to use (eg. lon/lat, which
granularity, or the A/B/C/D 1/2/3/4 grid you often find on printed
city maps).
I use exactly that for generating some town-scale maps with a grid. The grid
lines are actually generated as appropriately-sized boxes at regular intervals
thanks to generate_series(). I use the same squares to generate the street name
and misc feature index for each map too.
Here's the code as it stands at present, but I know it needs tidying to not
have a hard-coded box size in it:
insert into grid (map, column, row, way)
SELECT
'Canterbury',
chr(65 + x_series) AS column,
y_series + 1 AS row,
translate(way, 113562 + (x_series * 1603), 524 + (y_series * 1603)) AS way
from generate_series(0, 11) as x_series,
generate_series(0, 7) as y_series,
(
SELECT GeomFromText('POLYGON((0 0, 0 1603, 1603 1603, 1603 0, 0
0))',900913) as way
) as one_grid
union all
...other towns...
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Re: [OSM-dev] Announcing: Simple Map Editor (GSoC 2010)
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:12:06 +0800, Michael Daines mich...@mdaines.com wrote: http://simple-map-editor.heroku.com/ This got my attention because I've been pondering developing my own web-based editor. I have a Windows Mobile based smartphone (Motorola MC75) that would be a brilliant survey tool if only it could be used to edit the map. I've been investigating my options of which a pure web editor is one possibility. Sadly, no map tiles show up at all in Opera Mobile 10 at the above URL. (www.openstreetmap.org loads and is *almost* usable.) I haven't done much testing in Internet Explorer. Please use Firefox, Chrome, or Safari for now. (I will deal with browser compatibility issues soon.) When considering browser compatibility, you might also consider mobile browsers? Which, realistically, is Safari (Webkit) and Opera Mobile. a simplified editor for OSM aimed at beginner users Beginner users and mobile users are probably very similar in terms of what they're trying to do. Probably just adding POIs and street names. Maybe mobile considerations could be for GSoC 2011? -- Andrew Gregory mailto:and...@scss.com.au http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Complex JOSM filtering rules
If you do Edit-Search in JOSM it gives you a load of examples of what you can do. I presume (and Ævar seems to be saying) this is the same searching engine/code that the filters use. On 26 May 2010 14:22, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 13:08, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for posting to this list, but I didn't feel like joining yet another mailing list for one question. I want to be able to hide all admin boundaries in JOSM using the filter method, except admin boundaries that have highway=* or waterway=* or natural=* tags also, I haven't been able to figure out the right combination of filters to achieve this. Filters are just search queries, so you can do e.g.: boundary=administrative -(highway=* | waterway=* | natural=*) If you want to hide boundary relations you can put that query in a () and OR it together with one that searches for ways that are part of a boundary relation, use the child/parent operators for that. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Architecture
2010/5/14 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es On Friday 14 May 2010 17:32:25 Frederik Ramm wrote: OSM as it is today has not been drafted at the desk At the desk? More like on paper napkins at the pub! Excuse me, it is at least done on the back of a printed map that was brought to the pub to either map on the way or show off an area! No desk, but it is quite fun when one of the London server admins brings a print out to the pub table. That's usually just some form of statistics rather than designing/planning though. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Open Social Routing Idea: Request for preliminary comments
It sounds good. Anyone who knows about routing knows that it takes a crazy long time to be sure of the perfect route. This could be a way for the program to say I know the best way to get most of the way, because Jane told me she goes this way.. Adding a load of sample routes in one area, and with a good weighting on provided routes, it would be interesting to see how the program faired to other routing algorithms that. Are you going to look at motoring routing? Walking routing might be just as interesting (and more easy to get people's routes added). I walk around university a lot, sometimes two routes look exactly the same length but I take the route through a park because it's nicer and makes the journey feel shorter. Sometimes I go one way because it just has a few steps, returning I go another way because it's downhill. On 20 April 2010 10:00, Thomas Meller thomas.mel...@gmx.net wrote: @Ivan: I agree. The more people using my favourite route, the slower I will get forward, so why should I share? Answer: not at all if I know which informations my actions do supply to the service. But: tell the user to make a perfect route for her purpose if she supplies the service with detail information such as car type, personal driving style, comfort preference, urgency, and, of course, starting time and personally expected arrival time. And don't forget about the feedback next time she logs in again. (think carefully about the validity of the result) last.fm names this 'skobbling' and gives you recommendations, groups user types and creates correlations to form groups by similarity of preferences. The idea is not bad, but I don't expect it to grow successful, especially because the project's scope is short-term. You need a deep breath to get it all sexy and charming enough for average people to use. Without a wide userbase such a service won't get any value. Creating the toolset services like this could be based upon looks promising, though. Thomas Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:37:02 +0200 Von: Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es An: dev@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Open Social Routing Idea: Request for preliminary comments El 19/04/2010 16:56, Jonas Gabriel escribió: Every person creates personal routes based on his knowledge of his living area.[...] Then a service could produce routes by using members of this alternative routing graph forest connected by a traditional routing service [...] I would like to hear some of your comments.Does it make any sense? Yeah, it makes sense and would be doable by lowering the weights of the graph arcs in the routing algorithm for every uploaded route, or add a new arc for every uploaded route, with a lowered weight. However, besides from being a cool research project... what problem does it *solve*? Why would *I* be interested in uploading routes to such a service? Cheers, -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.172lon=7.4395zoom=15layers=B000FTFTTmlat=47.16696mlon=7.43509 GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] International Labels for Tags
On 6 April 2010 12:12, Claus Stadler ravenarka...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to know if there are structured mapping files for languages from tags to labels - such as a mapping for spanish from highway=traffic_signals to Semáforo To check we are on the same page: OSM data should be in (GB) English so that map renderers and tools don't have to account for all the languages in which people add data. but not everyone knows what highway=traffic_signals means, so you want a translation to a label. At the moment the Spanish translation of the wiki map features page maintains the English tagging name, but the description/explanation is in Spanish (sometimes all you need is the translation of 'traffic signals'). Although the wiki contains the information[1] its not totally structured there. So maybe someone is maintaining a set of e.g. XML files for that purpose? I believe not yet, but I can see the uses. Editors could work in different languages, so you add a highway=semáforo but the map editor translates it to highway=traffic_signals before uploading it to OSM. Editors and other tools could share this OSM-some_language lookup file so that if there is new tagging (or someone gets round to translating more tags) then all the tools update with the translations. I think there might be language packs/plugins for the JOSM editor. I'm not sure what they do, or how that information is stored though. Sorry I pathetically only know English, I should make a start learning important bits for SOTM... Una cerveza, por favor... -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [Talk-GB] OSM shortlinks problem
Forwarding to dev as requested. I think it has been noticed already, it can also break in applications such as twitter. But is anything going to be changed? I understand avoiding the ending character from being non-alphanumeric(not letters or numbers) would mean a serious rewrite of how the shortlinks are made/decoded. How much longer would short links be if all digits were alphanumeric only? Also the code is public so people can create these themselves or decode them, has anyone actually done that? On 29 March 2010 02:34, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: One for devs really but I'm not on the list. Perhaps someone could pass this on? I've noticed that the osm.org shortlinks ending with a dash - often don't work in emails. The dash gets missed off from the link. In my area, at least, this seems to move the centre slightly and switch from zoom level 17 to 18. For example this: http://osm.org/go/euut_VcMR- Gets interpreted as this: http://osm.org/go/euut_VcMR Is there any chance the shortlinks could avoid ending in a punctuation mark? Regards, Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [Talk-GB] OSM shortlinks problem
On 29 March 2010 15:15, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/16271 yeah, it was originally =, but changed to - to work with twitter. given that the characters A-Z, a-z, 0-9, _, @, - and = have already been used, what's the next best character? ~? +? Well I suggested that you remove problematic symbols, and just use A-Z, a-z, 0-9 if need be. Hmm, sorry Matt I see you only sent to Dev so might have missed the discussion on Talk-GB. It was said (if we have powers over Google, Microsoft, and other big e-mail applications) we tell them to change... It's also allowed behaviour. '-' is a valid URI character, so any user agent that chops them off the end of a URI is broken. I realise that doesn't help the people using them, but it would be better to fix the problem in the correct place. Robert Scott referenced RFC4648 base32 and said we could change it to = perhaps (changing it back and breaking twitter again!). Steve Doerr wondered if replacing it with %2D would solve it. I'm not sure at what point it would be best to do this (in the link or manually). It sounds like there will always be problems so I'm probably going to step out of the discussion. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery
On 24 March 2010 04:32, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters ;-) As Gregory points out it would be simple if it was a simple gridded layout and if there was only one person involved, but I was thinking about this from a mapping cake point of view, but simple sectioning may not be the most efficient routing. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev Divide the sections using impassable barriers such as railways and rivers, then by main roads. The side roads of main roads are less likely to be dead ends, so you don't even need to pass down the main road. In the worst case there is a person either side of the main road doing something odd (noting street signs) and they spot each other and smile/wave. It's nice to bump into mappers, and at London mapping parties I make a note who is doing surrounding slices so I can keep an eye out for them. This planning is a lot easier when you have the full road network to look at before hand. You can identify road sections you don't need to go down. Why don't you just man-up (or nerd-up) and go full out with getting house numbers. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema This would avoid missing name changes, and catch things like one-ways, shops, and all the other amenities which makes OSM rich. Similar to the London Mapping Parties. You would want to make smaller areas, but it can also be suitable for evening mapping as smaller areas = can be closer to a meeting point. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] Inserting OSM data
On 22 March 2010 12:38, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Almost 100% of the time these are imported to allow for the possibility of future updates to the existing imports. Except, as you point out, they can't be used in any way for future updates since you've got no idea if the reference stays on the correct object. So I'd rather spend time explaining to people that external references are a waste of time than encouraging them any further. In order to have this possibility, there needs to be a consistent/persistent identifier for a particular thing on the map. Since we don't have support for that in OSM this is the next best thing. Anyway, I'm not advocating for or against anything, simply explaining what I've experienced as an importer and someone helping others import. Has anyone experienced sync working? I know a lot of people have imported with external IDs but I suspect that it's not going to work when they actually come to updating one way or the other. I remember being told it was very important for imports, such as NAPTAN, that can be updated. But I guess that is different, as they are actually the official organiser/referencer of bus stops (and 4th parties might even use that ref). Back to the original poster, Andreas. I am still unclear about some things, are you wanting to bring the data back out of OSM to use in your system/company? If we could maybe look at how we could help you with that then we might be able to understand the best way for you to add to OSM. It would be interesting to know the rough geographic area your data covers. We can then see if the area is near blank or has some dedicated mappers that will be keen to help manually edit your import (e.g. check for imports). Some people here have also requested an extract of the data to look at the quality, or what it contains. Hopefully your not getting overwhelmed by the replies here. Welcome to the OSM community! -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Spam in Users' Diaries and Users' Pages
On 16 March 2010 17:33, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 March 2010 09:45, Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net wrote: But we need not make that description or their diary entries visible to other users until they have gained some reputation on the site - presumably by making map edits. This is a dangerous path, it's too easy for these spammers to then add garbage to the map data as well, not just the diary/user information, I think forcibly moderating the first few comments and/or requiring approval before their information is displayed is a much better idea. It's also important to repeat the argument that people post diary entries without ever editing the map. OpenStreetMap is no longer just for mappers. I see the best solution to be a moderation queue for the first 1-3 posts. If x number of previously passed members mark your 3 posts as okay, they become visible and you pass the test. The moderation queue could also serve as a place to see new users and help them out (as I like to do from time to time). I think it would be best to avoid having a select moderation group, but rather crowd source the moderation to any user that has passed the test. I also like the OSM-related photo question, but only for the potential humor factor (with only one correct answer shown and the wrong answers being very obvious to a human). Which of these photos is a mapper in trouble? - correct one is a photo of Andy and his bike in a tangle, a car crashed into a lamp post, or an empty battery symbol on a GPS screen. Where is a fun place to be? - correct answer is some people holding an OSM banner, a pub table full of geeks on computers, wrong answer is a canyon (bad GPS signal). What would you tag as smooth=good? - A babies bottom or a rock. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Guys I trusted you, I removed my checks...
-Original Message- From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Stefan de Konink Sent: 18 May 2009 23:57 To: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-dev] Guys I trusted you, I removed my checks... ...but again this trust was misplaced. No, it is not Potlatch 0.9a, it cannot be Potlatch is the perfect user tool and introduction to OSM. It must be API 0.6 that didn't solve all our problems, as was promised. Instead but it opened the gates of hell, a parallel universe within OSM...[/melodramatic] [start fanfare tune + brass] http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/8115655/full http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/255483811/history I probably have to blame myself; I was a fool to speed up my converter by removing the consistency checks. But since when do we support more than -180/+180 ? Looking at the data, it was modified on 2008-05-11. That was within the API 0.5 timeframe. So surely it was the 0.5 - 0.6 upgrade process that didn't catch the data anomaly, rather than the current API 0.6 code? After all, the data hasn't been changed since API 0.6 went live. It's good to see that Iván has posted a very plausible reason for why those particular longitudes were getting shown. I found the location of the lake in question on Wikipedia and see that the latitudes have changed significantly as well. I've written a little bit of code to revert the nodes to their most recent valid positions and committed the result after checking that it looked reasonable in JOSM. Gregory ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Guys I trusted you, I removed my checks...
-Original Message- From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Williams Sent: 19 May 2009 13:09 To: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Guys I trusted you, I removed my checks... -Original Message- From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Stefan de Konink Sent: 18 May 2009 23:57 To: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-dev] Guys I trusted you, I removed my checks... ...but again this trust was misplaced. No, it is not Potlatch 0.9a, it cannot be Potlatch is the perfect user tool and introduction to OSM. It must be API 0.6 that didn't solve all our problems, as was promised. Instead but it opened the gates of hell, a parallel universe within OSM...[/melodramatic] [start fanfare tune + brass] http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/8115655/full http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/255483811/history I probably have to blame myself; I was a fool to speed up my converter by removing the consistency checks. But since when do we support more than -180/+180 ? Looking at the data, it was modified on 2008-05-11. That was within the API 0.5 timeframe. So surely it was the 0.5 - 0.6 upgrade process that didn't catch the data anomaly, rather than the current API 0.6 code? After all, the data hasn't been changed since API 0.6 went live. It's good to see that Iván has posted a very plausible reason for why those particular longitudes were getting shown. I found the location of the lake in question on Wikipedia and see that the latitudes have changed significantly as well. I've written a little bit of code to revert the nodes to their most recent valid positions and committed the result after checking that it looked reasonable in JOSM. Ooops! I'd actually rolled it back two versions by mistake there (silly combination of looking for the previous version and a version with valid lat / lon in the code). Corrected now. Gregory ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Garbled relation tag values
All, Since API v0.6 went live earlier this morning I have created a brand new relation and then subsequently corrected a typo I’d made to one of the tag values. Subsequently looking at the values of the tags on the relation I see that they’ve ALL been changed to the value I changed on just one of the tags, rather than only that tag being updated. The relation in question is 115694. I was hoping that a quick dump of the history from the API would explain more succinctly, but it appears that there’s an inconsistency. http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694/history returns: osm version=0.6 generator=OpenStreetMap server relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:31:18Z user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 version=1 changeset=878083 member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ tag k=name v=National Cycle Network National Route 4/ tag k=network v=ncn/ tag k=operator v=Sustrans/ tag k=ref v=43/ tag k=route v=bicycle/ tag k=type v=route/ /relation relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:57:42Z user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 version=2 changeset=878271 member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ /relation /osm But without the history, http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694 returns: osm version=0.6 generator=OpenStreetMap server − relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:57:42Z version=2 changeset=878271 user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ tag k=name v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=network v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=operator v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=ref v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=route v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=type v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ /relation /osm Note the inconsistent tag values in v2 of the relation. I’m running the latest build of JOSM from this morning, 1541. Cheers, Gregory ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [josm-dev] Garbled relation tag values
Hmmm, could this be the issue? http://svn.openstreetmap.org/sites/rails_port/app/models/relation_tag.rb: validates_uniqueness_of :id, :scope = :k shouldn't that read: validates_uniqueness_of :k, :scope = :id Please excuse me if I'm totally wrong; I've never written a line of Ruby in my life... Gregory -Original Message- From: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Williams Sent: 21 April 2009 13:49 To: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap; josm-dev Subject: [josm-dev] Garbled relation tag values All, Since API v0.6 went live earlier this morning I have created a brand new relation and then subsequently corrected a typo I’d made to one of the tag values. Subsequently looking at the values of the tags on the relation I see that they’ve ALL been changed to the value I changed on just one of the tags, rather than only that tag being updated. The relation in question is 115694. I was hoping that a quick dump of the history from the API would explain more succinctly, but it appears that there’s an inconsistency. http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694/history returns: osm version=0.6 generator=OpenStreetMap server relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:31:18Z user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 version=1 changeset=878083 member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ tag k=name v=National Cycle Network National Route 4/ tag k=network v=ncn/ tag k=operator v=Sustrans/ tag k=ref v=43/ tag k=route v=bicycle/ tag k=type v=route/ /relation relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:57:42Z user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 version=2 changeset=878271 member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ /relation /osm But without the history, http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694 returns: osm version=0.6 generator=OpenStreetMap server − relation id=115694 visible=true timestamp=2009-04-21T11:57:42Z version=2 changeset=878271 user=Gregory Williams uid=7037 member type=way ref=25014770 role=/ member type=way ref=33315576 role=/ member type=way ref=24565331 role=/ member type=way ref=33322169 role=/ tag k=name v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=network v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=operator v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=ref v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=route v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ tag k=type v=National Cycle Network National Route 43/ /relation /osm Note the inconsistent tag values in v2 of the relation. I’m running the latest build of JOSM from this morning, 1541. Cheers, Gregory ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] restrict mass-editing?
-Original Message- From: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bennett Sent: 31 March 2009 11:46 To: Frederik Ramm Cc: josm-dev Subject: Re: [josm-dev] restrict mass-editing? Frederik Ramm wrote: currently it is possible to select all and then set a tag for tens of thousands of objects at the same time. Do you think we should do an alert box saying you are editing 12.345 objects. are you sure you want this? - or maybe just disallow it altogether? Or remove Select All completely? Are there any legitimate uses for this? I've only ever used it to find out how much of an area I've contributed :) That wouldn't really prevent a Select All though. It's easy to just craft an appropriate search to achieve the same effect, or simply use the selection tool to draw a box around everything. Gregory ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] restrict mass-editing?
-Original Message- From: Matt Amos [mailto:zerebub...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 March 2009 12:09 To: Gregory Williams Cc: josm-dev Subject: Re: [josm-dev] restrict mass-editing? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gregory Williams gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bennett Sent: 31 March 2009 11:46 To: Frederik Ramm Cc: josm-dev Subject: Re: [josm-dev] restrict mass-editing? Frederik Ramm wrote: currently it is possible to select all and then set a tag for tens of thousands of objects at the same time. Do you think we should do an alert box saying you are editing 12.345 objects. are you sure you want this? - or maybe just disallow it altogether? Or remove Select All completely? Are there any legitimate uses for this? I've only ever used it to find out how much of an area I've contributed :) That wouldn't really prevent a Select All though. It's easy to just craft an appropriate search to achieve the same effect, or simply use the selection tool to draw a box around everything. indeed. i don't think frederik was suggesting that features are removed, just warn the user that they might have selected more objects than they thought. i think its a good idea. if the limit is settable in expert preferences then so much the better. it helps protect inexperienced users and doesn't get in the way of advanced users. Yes, I'm for having a warning with a configurable threshold. It'd be great to have a warning if you attempt to move a similarly large number of objects in unison as well, but I'm not quite sure how that'd operate since a pop up window would take the focus away from the drag operation that's in progress. Gregory ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Download area from slippy map
-Original Message- From: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Russ Nelson Sent: 18 February 2009 22:04 To: Maarten Deen Cc: josm-...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Download area from slippy map Maarten Deen writes: I just came across something: how do you zoom out on the slippymap download option when you don't have a mousewheel? E.g. on a laptop? Get a better laptop? Or, simpler and cheaper, get an external mouse with a wheel for the laptop. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Are there a feature rendering rules for Mapnik?
Ivo, Casing is the border of the road, whereas the fill is the colour in the centre. You’ll see that these are two overlapping lines, with the casing slightly wider than the fill, such that just either edge shows through once the fill is drawn on top. Cheers, Gregory From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ivo Brodien Sent: 27 January 2009 10:59 To: Jon Burgess Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Are there a feature rendering rules for Mapnik? Hi, The nicest way I know is using some xslt from here: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mapnik-users/2008-June/000986.html This produces a neatly formatted page listing all the layers, styles and rules with min/max zooms and mouse-overs with details of css parameters etc. I took a closer look now and it is really neat, but I don't understand this: minor-roads minor-roads-casing 5 000 1 000 ☡ ([highway] = 'secondary' or [highway] = 'secondary_link') and not ([tunnel]='yes' or [tunnel]='true') CSS: stroke: #a37b48 stroke-dasharray: stroke-linecap: round stroke-linejoin: round stroke-width: 17; minor-roads-fill 5 000 1 000 ☡ ([highway] = 'secondary' or [highway] = 'secondary_link') and not ([tunnel]='yes' or [tunnel]='true') CSS: stroke: #fdbf6f stroke-dasharray: stroke-linecap: round stroke-linejoin: round stroke-width: 14 Where is the difference between fill and the casing? The conditions are the same, aren't they? What do I miss here? Thanks Ivo ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Crowd Sourced Testing of OSM 0.6 API
I saw the same error a little earlier after: (1) I registered. (2) Confirmed registration. (3) Machine crashed (due to something completely unrelated). (4) Firefox offered to restore tabs. Error was in one of them. Different user, but otherwise the same. I've not been able to repro the error again either though. So, full trace here either. Sorry. Gregory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shaun McDonald Sent: 11 December 2008 13:58 To: Robert Vollmert Cc: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Crowd Sourced Testing of OSM 0.6 API On 11 Dec 2008, at 12:56, Robert Vollmert wrote: On Dec 11, 2008, at 12:22, Shaun McDonald wrote: As the 0.6 XML API is now feature complete, I'd like to start a push for getting it tested, to iron on the final bugs prior to going live. Can you all please take a look at the following page to find out more about testing the 0.6 API: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Crowd_sou rced_Testing I created an account on api06.dev, but I can't login: NoMethodError in User#login Showing user/login.rhtml where line #9 raised: undefined method `password' for #User:0xf66d38b8 There's a bunch more info following. Is there something wrong on my side? Strange, I can't reproduce the problem here. Have you clicked the link in the e-mail you were sent. The bunch more info, is what tells us where to look in the code to find the error. So can you please send it too? Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Crowd Sourced Testing of OSM 0.6 API
Repro steps:
(1) Ensure that you're not logged into the website.
(2) Open http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ in two separate web browser
tabs. Let's call them A and B.
(3) Log in using the site in tab A. Works fine.
(4) Switch to tab B, which still shows the state from before the
successful log in.
(5) Click the Log in link in tab B. Error message reported as below.
Gregory
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Williams
Sent: 11 December 2008 14:25
To: OSM-Dev Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Crowd Sourced Testing of OSM 0.6 API
...and then it happens again!
I was logged out for a few minutes whilst reporting a separate issue
in
trac. I then logged back in and get the following error:
NoMethodError in User#login
Showing user/login.rhtml where line #9 raised:
undefined method `password' for #User:0xf6a02e44
Extracted source (around line #9):
6: br/
7: table
8: trtd class=fieldNameEmail Address or username:/tdtd%=
text_field('user', 'email',{:size = 50, :maxlength = 255})
%/td/tr
9: trtd class=fieldNamePassword:/tdtd%=
password_field('user', 'password',{:size = 28, :maxlength = 255}) %
span class=minorNote(%= link_to 'Lost your password?',
:controller
= 'user', :action = 'lost_password' %)/span/td/tr
10: trtd colspan=2nbsp;!--vertical spacer--/td/tr
11: trtd/tdtd align=right%= submit_tag 'Login'
%/td/tr
12: /table
RAILS_ROOT: /home/edgemaster/apis/api06
Application Trace | Framework Trace | Full Trace
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-
2.1.2/lib/active_record/attribu
te_methods.rb:256:in `method_missing'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:628:in `send'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:628:in `value_before_type_cast'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:616:in `value_before_type_cast'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:535:in `to_input_field_tag'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:380:in `password_field'
/home/edgemaster/apis/api06/app/views/user/login.rhtml:9:in
`_run_erb_47app47views47user47login46rhtml'
/home/edgemaster/apis/api06/app/views/user/login.rhtml:4:in
`_run_erb_47app47views47user47login46rhtml'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-
2.1.2/lib/active_record/attribu
te_methods.rb:256:in `method_missing'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:628:in `send'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:628:in `value_before_type_cast'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:616:in `value_before_type_cast'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:535:in `to_input_field_tag'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_helper.rb:380:in `password_field'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/cap
ture_helper.rb:141:in `call'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/cap
ture_helper.rb:141:in `capture_erb_with_buffer'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/cap
ture_helper.rb:44:in `capture'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_tag_helper.rb:443:in `form_tag_in_block'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/helpers/for
m_tag_helper.rb:39:in `form_tag'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/base.rb:342
:in `send'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/base.rb:342
:in `execute'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/template_ha
ndlers/compilable.rb:29:in `send'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/template_ha
ndlers/compilable.rb:29:in `render'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/template.rb
:35:in `render'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/template.rb
:22:in `render_template'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_view/base.rb:248
:in `render_file'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_controller/base.
rb:1112:in `render_for_file'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_controller/base.
rb:845:in `render_with_no_layout'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_controller/layou
t.rb:251:in `render_without_benchmark'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-
2.1.2/lib/action_controller/bench
marking.rb:51:in `render'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-
2.1.2/lib/active_support/core_
ext/benchmark.rb:8:in `realtime'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems
Re: [OSM-dev] [Patch] Experimental extra symbols for mapnik layer
2008/9/18 Brian Quinion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adding icons need to be done careful moderation and adding any significant number runs the risk of making the default map unsuitable for some purposes (for instance a hotel chain would not want other hotels appearing on their maps!). Or it could be better. I can display all POIs except hotels, take a screenshot, then add just 1 icon(or company logo) for my hotel. I seem to have misunderstood something, and thought someone suggested having multiple layers of POIs. Slowing down to type and perhaps that suggestion made, sorry if it's an outrageous one. But your icon set looks like it could be easily split into a few layers, brown layer(food/pubs) etc. I also really like the transparency on the beer icons and generally. I'm also not particularly happy with the placement of the icons - I'm currently working on a patch to mapnik to allow icons to be 'nudged' into clear space to improve the cartographical result - I'm also trying translucency and various other effects. Suggestions welcome. That would be a brilliant patch, something I think we all want as it will avoid the need to move the node far enough for the way. Sometimes/people will wait a week to look at the render in case they didn't keep nodes/ways far enough apart. I can also think of other alternatives too. For instance we could provide 2 mapnik layers (one naked, one with icons) or try to find some way to overlay individual symbols browser side without too much of a performance hit. I wonder if the standard map user is happy with switching between layers, as I've also wondered if people spot/click the + to find the osmarender and cycle map layers. It's interesting to see the work people are doing on styling the map dta. Much better than my quick mucking around with Kosmos: http://www.livingwithdragons.com/hampton If you zoom in on 'High Street' near 'Arundel Close Open Space', you can see how work needs to be done for a row of shops. Most of the names end up appearing over the wrong icon. Second half of this blog post is about that map: http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2008/09/murphys-law-hamptons-map -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Problems with JOSM
Hi, I probably should of noted down what version I was using (I think it was the latest around june) before I decided to download the josm-latest. It doesn't work now and I've tried finding something from http://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/ that does work. I've deleted my prefrences file to avoid plugins or things like that causing problems. 401 and higher (tried a file about every hundred): An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment Program doesn't open 352: Program opens, but when I open a gpx file it closes immedietly and the command prompt gives the same message os 401. 345: Program opens, the welcome message text is wrapping to a width of about 100px. Same problem as 352. 346: Same problem as 352. 338: Same problem as 352. josm-1.5 worked but of course uses the 0.4 api so can't download osm data. What should I do now to try and get it to work? I'm using Windows XP Pro. I could send the contents of the java error report to someone. -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Problems with JOSM
tis working now. I updated the jre, although it said it didn't complete installation it seems to be happy there are no more updates to do. Comment about the mappaint plugin: Can this be removed from the plugins list? (as it's no longer needed/used) Unless there is a reason it still gets listed, I'm not bothered it justs seems to make sense to remove it. Thanks shaun. Thanks guys on IRC when I was worrying. 2008/9/12 Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shaun McDonald wrote: Have you tried deleting you josm preferences or updating your jre? Shaun Gregory wrote: Hi, I probably should of noted down what version I was using (I think it was the latest around june) before I decided to download the josm-latest. It doesn't work now and I've tried finding something from http://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/ that does work. I've deleted my prefrences file to avoid plugins or things like that causing problems. Doh, seems I cannot read. Using java 6 here on Ubuntu I have not problems with latest (945). Can you please run java --version and send the result, that should give some more info. Shaun -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] openstreetbugs to the main-side
With Potlatch it shouldn't be hard to add something, although this does require registering and maybe a bit of reading. I had wondered before why there wasn't a link from the main map, so I'm all for someone adding it. 2008/8/29 John07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, some days ago somebody started contributing to osm here in my osm-area. He helped to correct the map although he didn´t edit any data. He simple used openstreetbugs. If you speak with osm-newbies they often say that it is too dificult to edit the map. Then i say, hey, look at openstreetbugs, this is really simple. Therefore i think we have to put openstreetbugs on the main-side www.openstreetmap.org Either we make a big link to openstreetbugs or we integrate openstreetbugs into the main-site. I think the second solution would be much better, but the first one is easier. So what do you think about this? And how could this be done? Jonas P.S. Sorry for my poor englisch. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] real-time traffic map
2008/8/20 Rogier Wolff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would expect that the userbase of OSM is too small to make accurate travel-time estimates, based on (live) GPS tracks. So I'm afraid that in practise it won't work. And even less is the number of users that have some GPS system capable of communicating live with a server. We record the GPS track and later in the day/week upload it onto our computers. I suppose I could use my mobile phone to send my location, but a) that would be a cost on my phone bill b) maybe I don't want you knowing where I am and how fast I'm going -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Autocorrectable data inconsistency
In which case, my apologies for misinterpreting, and I completely agree that duplicated nodes serve no purpose whatsoever. Gregory -Original Message- From: Jochen Topf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2008 09:59 To: Gregory Williams Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Autocorrectable data inconsistency You have misinterpreted the topic. Its about having the exact same node several times one after each other in a way. Jochen On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 08:55:06AM +0100, Gregory Williams wrote: I've only seen this thread partway through, so please tell me if I've completely misinterpreted the topic. As I see it there is a case, at least on a practical level, for storing a series of nodes along a straight line in a way. Imagine a very long straight road that crosses multiple z12 tiles. If this were stored in its simplest geometric form then there wouldn't be nodes within (or potentially in the extra margin that [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads) a z12 tile. Therefore the tile would be rendered as if that road doesn't exist. Similarly if somebody working in an editor doesn't download a sufficiently large area to encompass at least one of the way's nodes then they may get the impression that the road hasn't yet been entered into OSM's data. That might even lead to them drawing their own road along the same path! Gregory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jochen Topf Sent: 19 August 2008 08:24 To: Joachim Zobel Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Autocorrectable data inconsistency On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:17:53PM +0200, Joachim Zobel wrote: Am Montag, den 18.08.2008, 13:30 +0200 schrieb Marc Schütz: Is there actually a valid use case for having the same node multiple times in a row? I don't see any. I could write a script to korrect the existing ones. Do the sequence_ids have to be in sequence (which means the ones above need to be shifted down) or does a simple DELETE per dupe do it. All changes should be done through the API. Do changes on the database directly only leads to inconsistencies. The API does not expose the sequence number, so the order alone is fine. Jochen -- Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49- 721- 388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721- 388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] New servers?
And who chose the names? 2008/8/5 Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raphael Studer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found some news servers on the munin page: http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/draco.openstreetmap.html http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/fuchur.openstreetmap.html http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/idris.openstreetmap.html http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/norbert.openstreetmap.html http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/puff.openstreetmap.html http://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap/sarel.openstreetmap.html What will be their job? Well if you give us more than about two seconds after they are installed then we might be able to tell you... Seriously, the only one doing anything at the moment is idris which is a dedicated Atom based machine generously provided by Bytemark to replace the virtual machine they had previously been providing. It is now running all the services (wiki, trac, svn, mailing lists) which used to be on the virtual machine. Of the others, the three G5 machines (draco, sarel and norbert) will probably be used to replace the current rails application servers which will allow to run significantly more rails daemons. There is a small amount of hardware reconfiguration to be done first though. Of the two G3 machines (puff and fuchur) one will probably be used to replace the current frontend web server and we don't currently have an immediate use planned for the other one. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Devsvn accounts
If I record to the SD card then it includes the date / time in the filename. If I use the Windows software to download just the tracks and waypoints in the internal memory then it uses a filename based upon the serial number. I use the latter if I've only done a small amount of mapping (i.e. not exceeded the internal memory), because it does the gpsbabel step to convert to GPX as part of the process, thus saving me a few seconds. -Original Message- From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7 March 2008 22:13 To: Gregory Williams Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Devsvn accounts On 7 Mar 2008, at 21:52, Gregory Williams wrote: [Snip] I may be being dense here, but what's the problem with a user uploading a second file with the same name? All my traces currently have a unique name as produced by the gps [software], thus I see it to be unlikely to be an issue. The version of the software that I use with my NaviGPS generates a filename based upon the GPS unit's serial number. So, the same filename gets reused. The GT-11 I have (well off for a repair just now), also included the date and time in UTC for the file name. I take it that your firmware only creates one log file, and not a new one each time the GPS is started like the firmware I was used to. TrekBuddy and TrackMyJourney when setup to auto log both use the date to produce unique files within that one directory that the files are stored. I just haven't had the experience of doing things differently how some others do them. Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Devsvn accounts
[Snip] I may be being dense here, but what's the problem with a user uploading a second file with the same name? All my traces currently have a unique name as produced by the gps [software], thus I see it to be unlikely to be an issue. The version of the software that I use with my NaviGPS generates a filename based upon the GPS unit's serial number. So, the same filename gets reused. [Snip] ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Issue saving wiki page
It appears to be working again now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Paulson Sent: 9 January 2008 19:34 To: dev Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Issue saving wiki page On 10/01/2008, Gregory Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just tried to save an update to [Yahoo!_Aerial_Imagery/Coverage] and get the following error: Warning: require(/var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEd it_body.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 302 Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit_body .php' (include_path='.:/var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org:/var/www/wiki.openstree tmap.org/includes:/var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org/languages') in /var/www/wiki.openstreetmap.org/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 302 me too, two separate pages now ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
