Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Julian Feinauer]

Hi Kai,

I understand your point. But I dislike to call things like "process" or 
"compute" as these are such overused words. Windows calc does compute, 
Mainframes do compute, Hadoop nodes do compute... 

Target audience is PLC4X users so something between IT and OT. And in fact, as 
the lib is quite a bit specialiced and think its reasonable to have people look 
at the docs first : )

But, I mean we are (as Chris pointed out) still in the process of consent 
building, so its good to get so many opinions here.

Julian

Am 16.09.19, 13:43 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

The question is "who should understand what the component does" when he
reads the component name (without any further descriptions)?

If it is software developers, then they will have no idea what
"osciloscope" means (I don't either). I only understand simple words like
Connect, Process, Store, etc. :-)

Even if osciloscope is more accurate, the question is who is the audience
for potential users of PLC4X and its sub-components.

Kai

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:14 AM Christofer Dutz 
wrote:

> Hi Julian,
>
> A common pattern of modern ASF duels seems to be writing longer and longer
> emails till someone finally gives up ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 18:51 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
>
> Hi,
>
> ist not that i disagree with you, I just don’t agree : D
> Logic Analyzer sounds weird for me (but I'm also not so used to that).
>
> So we should go on discussing.. and if no consensus is found we meet
> somewhere, two men, nobody else, no guns (and no bears!). Knifes are
> probably okay (have to check the Apache Policy on consensus finding
> again...) : )
>
> Julian
>
> Am 16.09.19, 09:45 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi julian,
>
> Well  coming back to your explanation:
> I would never use an oszyloscope to analyze such plc signals they
> have a far to low frequency for oszylloscope analysis. Especially an
> oszylloscope requires things to have a frequency and you couldn't detect
> simple low frequent logic level shifts.
> Thinking about how I usually analyze signals in the IoT space, I
> always use my Logic-Analyzer which is much more suited for such tasks.
> So if we would stick to your reasoning, I would prefer "logic
> analyzer" instead of "oszylloscope".
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 17:37 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
>
> Hi,
>
> although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things
> functionally) I personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it
> transpoets the intent of the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-
>
> Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in
> fact Wikipedia states:
>
> "The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as
> amplitude, frequency, rise time, time interval, distortion, and others.
> Modern digital instruments may calculate and display these properties
> directly. Originally, calculation of these values required manually
> measuring the waveform against the scales built into the screen of the
> instrument.[3]"
>
> So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because
> it brings the intent as close as possible.
>
> Julian
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <
> matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>:
>
> +1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So
> Processing / Filter / SignalWatchDog would be better for me.
>
> Greetings Mathi
> Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
>
> Universität Stuttgart
> Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und
> Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
>
> Seidenstraße 36
> 70174 Stuttgart
> GERMANY
>
> Tel: +49 711 685-84530
> Fax: +49 711 685-74530
>
> E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
> Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Christofer Dutz 
> Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something 
different
>
> Hi all,
>
> The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that
> für me it sort of

Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Kai Wähner]

The question is "who should understand what the component does" when he
reads the component name (without any further descriptions)?

If it is software developers, then they will have no idea what
"osciloscope" means (I don't either). I only understand simple words like
Connect, Process, Store, etc. :-)

Even if osciloscope is more accurate, the question is who is the audience
for potential users of PLC4X and its sub-components.

Kai

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:14 AM Christofer Dutz 
wrote:

> Hi Julian,
>
> A common pattern of modern ASF duels seems to be writing longer and longer
> emails till someone finally gives up ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 18:51 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
>
> Hi,
>
> ist not that i disagree with you, I just don’t agree : D
> Logic Analyzer sounds weird for me (but I'm also not so used to that).
>
> So we should go on discussing.. and if no consensus is found we meet
> somewhere, two men, nobody else, no guns (and no bears!). Knifes are
> probably okay (have to check the Apache Policy on consensus finding
> again...) : )
>
> Julian
>
> Am 16.09.19, 09:45 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi julian,
>
> Well  coming back to your explanation:
> I would never use an oszyloscope to analyze such plc signals they
> have a far to low frequency for oszylloscope analysis. Especially an
> oszylloscope requires things to have a frequency and you couldn't detect
> simple low frequent logic level shifts.
> Thinking about how I usually analyze signals in the IoT space, I
> always use my Logic-Analyzer which is much more suited for such tasks.
> So if we would stick to your reasoning, I would prefer "logic
> analyzer" instead of "oszylloscope".
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 17:37 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
>
> Hi,
>
> although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things
> functionally) I personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it
> transpoets the intent of the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-
>
> Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in
> fact Wikipedia states:
>
> "The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as
> amplitude, frequency, rise time, time interval, distortion, and others.
> Modern digital instruments may calculate and display these properties
> directly. Originally, calculation of these values required manually
> measuring the waveform against the scales built into the screen of the
> instrument.[3]"
>
> So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because
> it brings the intent as close as possible.
>
> Julian
>
>
> Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <
> matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>:
>
> +1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So
> Processing / Filter / SignalWatchDog would be better for me.
>
> Greetings Mathi
> Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
>
> Universität Stuttgart
> Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und
> Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
>
> Seidenstraße 36
> 70174 Stuttgart
> GERMANY
>
> Tel: +49 711 685-84530
> Fax: +49 711 685-74530
>
> E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
> Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Christofer Dutz 
> Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different
>
> Hi all,
>
> The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that
> für me it sort off relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just
> be me).
>
> I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I
> quite like the idea of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the
> new one "PLC4X process".
>
> Chris
>
> Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android
>
> 
> From: Tim Mitsch 
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
> To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different
>
> Hey,
>
> As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
> But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
> Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is
> short and clear what Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized
> data. Maybe we could also call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing'
> or any oth

Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Christofer Dutz]

Hi Julian,

A common pattern of modern ASF duels seems to be writing longer and longer 
emails till someone finally gives up ;-)

Chris


Am 16.09.19, 18:51 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" :

Hi,

ist not that i disagree with you, I just don’t agree : D
Logic Analyzer sounds weird for me (but I'm also not so used to that).

So we should go on discussing.. and if no consensus is found we meet 
somewhere, two men, nobody else, no guns (and no bears!). Knifes are probably 
okay (have to check the Apache Policy on consensus finding again...) : )

Julian

Am 16.09.19, 09:45 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :

Hi julian,

Well  coming back to your explanation:
I would never use an oszyloscope to analyze such plc signals they have 
a far to low frequency for oszylloscope analysis. Especially an oszylloscope 
requires things to have a frequency and you couldn't detect simple low frequent 
logic level shifts.
Thinking about how I usually analyze signals in the IoT space, I always 
use my Logic-Analyzer which is much more suited for such tasks.
So if we would stick to your reasoning, I would prefer "logic analyzer" 
instead of "oszylloscope".

Chris


Am 16.09.19, 17:37 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" 
:

Hi,

although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things 
functionally) I personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it transpoets 
the intent of the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-

Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in fact 
Wikipedia states:

"The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as 
amplitude, frequency, rise time, time interval, distortion, and others. Modern 
digital instruments may calculate and display these properties directly. 
Originally, calculation of these values required manually measuring the 
waveform against the scales built into the screen of the instrument.[3]"

So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because it 
brings the intent as close as possible.

Julian


Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" 
:

+1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So 
Processing / Filter / SignalWatchDog would be better for me.

Greetings Mathi
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.

Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und 
Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)

Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY

Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530

E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christofer Dutz  
Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hi all,

The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that für me 
it sort off relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just be me).

I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I quite 
like the idea of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the new one 
"PLC4X process".

Chris

Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android


From: Tim Mitsch 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hey,

As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is short 
and clear what Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized data. Maybe 
we could also call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing' or any other 
artifical acronym.

Best
Tim

Am 15.09.19, 18:20 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

I would vote for something like Niclas proposed. Much 
clearer than having
yet another product / component name...

For instance, PLC4X DSP, PLC4X Signal Processor, or 
something wh

Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Julian Feinauer]

Hi,

ist not that i disagree with you, I just don’t agree : D
Logic Analyzer sounds weird for me (but I'm also not so used to that).

So we should go on discussing.. and if no consensus is found we meet somewhere, 
two men, nobody else, no guns (and no bears!). Knifes are probably okay (have 
to check the Apache Policy on consensus finding again...) : )

Julian

Am 16.09.19, 09:45 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :

Hi julian,

Well  coming back to your explanation:
I would never use an oszyloscope to analyze such plc signals they have a 
far to low frequency for oszylloscope analysis. Especially an oszylloscope 
requires things to have a frequency and you couldn't detect simple low frequent 
logic level shifts.
Thinking about how I usually analyze signals in the IoT space, I always use 
my Logic-Analyzer which is much more suited for such tasks.
So if we would stick to your reasoning, I would prefer "logic analyzer" 
instead of "oszylloscope".

Chris


Am 16.09.19, 17:37 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" :

Hi,

although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things functionally) I 
personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it transpoets the intent of 
the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-

Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in fact 
Wikipedia states:

"The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as amplitude, 
frequency, rise time, time interval, distortion, and others. Modern digital 
instruments may calculate and display these properties directly. Originally, 
calculation of these values required manually measuring the waveform against 
the scales built into the screen of the instrument.[3]"

So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because it brings 
the intent as close as possible.

Julian


Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" 
:

+1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So Processing / 
Filter / SignalWatchDog would be better for me.

Greetings Mathi
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.

Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und 
Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)

Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY

Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530

E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christofer Dutz  
Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hi all,

The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that für me it 
sort off relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just be me).

I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I quite 
like the idea of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the new one 
"PLC4X process".

Chris

Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android


From: Tim Mitsch 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hey,

As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is short and 
clear what Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized data. Maybe we 
could also call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing' or any other 
artifical acronym.

Best
Tim

Am 15.09.19, 18:20 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

I would vote for something like Niclas proposed. Much clearer 
than having
yet another product / component name...

For instance, PLC4X DSP, PLC4X Signal Processor, or something 
what clearly
describes in one or two words / shortcuts what the component 
does.

See Kafka and its ecosystem: Kafka Connect, Kafka Streams, 
Confluent Schema
Registry, Confluent Rest Proxy, Confluent Control Center, etc...

Kai

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:05 AM Julian Feinauer <
j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking about naming and came up w

Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Christofer Dutz]

Hi julian,

Well  coming back to your explanation:
I would never use an oszyloscope to analyze such plc signals they have a far to 
low frequency for oszylloscope analysis. Especially an oszylloscope requires 
things to have a frequency and you couldn't detect simple low frequent logic 
level shifts.
Thinking about how I usually analyze signals in the IoT space, I always use my 
Logic-Analyzer which is much more suited for such tasks.
So if we would stick to your reasoning, I would prefer "logic analyzer" instead 
of "oszylloscope".

Chris


Am 16.09.19, 17:37 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" :

Hi,

although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things functionally) I 
personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it transpoets the intent of 
the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-

Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in fact 
Wikipedia states:

"The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as amplitude, 
frequency, rise time, time interval, distortion, and others. Modern digital 
instruments may calculate and display these properties directly. Originally, 
calculation of these values required manually measuring the waveform against 
the scales built into the screen of the instrument.[3]"

So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because it brings the 
intent as close as possible.

Julian


Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" 
:

+1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So Processing / 
Filter / SignalWatchDog would be better for me.

Greetings Mathi
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.

Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und 
Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)

Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY

Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530

E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christofer Dutz  
Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hi all,

The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that für me it sort 
off relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just be me).

I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I quite like 
the idea of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the new one "PLC4X 
process".

Chris

Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android


From: Tim Mitsch 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hey,

As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is short and clear 
what Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized data. Maybe we could 
also call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing' or any other artifical 
acronym.

Best
Tim

Am 15.09.19, 18:20 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

I would vote for something like Niclas proposed. Much clearer than 
having
yet another product / component name...

For instance, PLC4X DSP, PLC4X Signal Processor, or something what 
clearly
describes in one or two words / shortcuts what the component does.

See Kafka and its ecosystem: Kafka Connect, Kafka Streams, 
Confluent Schema
Registry, Confluent Rest Proxy, Confluent Control Center, etc...

Kai

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:05 AM Julian Feinauer <
j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking about naming and came up with ideas like...
>
> - trace4j
> - dsp4j (digital signal processing, that is)
> - pluse (as we detect pulses and stuff)
> - oscilloscope <-- I quite like that, it fits quite well as we 
really look
> into signals
>
> What are thoughts on those?
>
> J
>
> Am 08.09.19, 22:38 schrieb "Niclas Hedhman" :
>
> peanut gallery; I would recommend a descriptive name, in 
format of
> "PLC4X
> Abc", rather than a stand-alone name. Somewhere in the 
future, you may
> have
> a dozen of these and one wouldn't know where to start looking.
>
> Cheer

Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Julian Feinauer]

Hi,

although I agree with Chris and Kai (better name things functionally) I 
personally prefer something like 'osciloscope' as it transpoets the intent of 
the lib better than 'process' or 'compute'-

Oscilloscopes are known to help you with analyzing signals, in fact Wikipedia 
states:

"The waveform can then be analyzed for properties such as amplitude, frequency, 
rise time, time interval, distortion, and others. Modern digital instruments 
may calculate and display these properties directly. Originally, calculation of 
these values required manually measuring the waveform against the scales built 
into the screen of the instrument.[3]"

So I think this is the name I prefer most, especially because it brings the 
intent as close as possible.

Julian


Am 16.09.19, 02:36 schrieb "Strljic, Matthias Milan" 
:

+1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So Processing / Filter / 
SignalWatchDog would be better for me.

Greetings Mathi
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.

Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und 
Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)

Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY

Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530

E-Mail: matthias.strl...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christofer Dutz  
Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hi all,

The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that für me it sort off 
relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just be me).

I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I quite like the 
idea of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the new one "PLC4X 
process".

Chris

Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android


From: Tim Mitsch 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hey,

As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is short and clear what 
Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized data. Maybe we could also 
call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing' or any other artifical acronym.

Best
Tim

Am 15.09.19, 18:20 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

I would vote for something like Niclas proposed. Much clearer than 
having
yet another product / component name...

For instance, PLC4X DSP, PLC4X Signal Processor, or something what 
clearly
describes in one or two words / shortcuts what the component does.

See Kafka and its ecosystem: Kafka Connect, Kafka Streams, Confluent 
Schema
Registry, Confluent Rest Proxy, Confluent Control Center, etc...

Kai

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:05 AM Julian Feinauer <
j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking about naming and came up with ideas like...
>
> - trace4j
> - dsp4j (digital signal processing, that is)
> - pluse (as we detect pulses and stuff)
> - oscilloscope <-- I quite like that, it fits quite well as we really 
look
> into signals
>
> What are thoughts on those?
>
> J
>
> Am 08.09.19, 22:38 schrieb "Niclas Hedhman" :
>
> peanut gallery; I would recommend a descriptive name, in format of
> "PLC4X
> Abc", rather than a stand-alone name. Somewhere in the future, 
you may
> have
> a dozen of these and one wouldn't know where to start looking.
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:51 AM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just discussed (off-list) with Justin the next steps needed.
> > They are
> >
> > * fill out software grant (pm)
> > * Start IP clearance vote on incubator list (JF)
> > * Gather ICLA from all contributors of CRUNCH
> >
> > Parallel I’d like to start a discuss on how we should call it as
> PLC4X
> > subproject.
> >
> > Any ideas or suggestions?
> >
> > Julian
> >
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>
>
>

AW: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

[Strljic, Matthias Milan]

+1 for that. I am not a fan of fancy cool names 😊. So Processing / Filter / 
SignalWatchDog would be better for me.

Greetings Mathi
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.

Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und 
Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)

Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY

Tel: +49 711 685-84530
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Von: Christofer Dutz  
Gesendet: Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:09 PM
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hi all,

The thing with Oszilloskope and dsp that I see, ist that für me it sort off 
relates to hard- and not Software (but that might just be me).

I was discussing this with Julian here at apachecon and I quite like the idea 
of calling the current layer "PLC4X connect" and the new one "PLC4X process".

Chris

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From: Tim Mitsch 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:43:13 AM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Rename CRUNCH to something different

Hey,

As i'm electrical engineer i like the name oscilloscope.
But full ack to Kai, name should be clearer.
Furthermore i like Kai's suggestion PLC4X DSP as it is short and clear what 
Crunch does ... processing and analyzing digitalized data. Maybe we could also 
call it PLC4X MSP for 'Mixed Signal Processing' or any other artifical acronym.

Best
Tim

Am 15.09.19, 18:20 schrieb "Kai Wähner" :

I would vote for something like Niclas proposed. Much clearer than having
yet another product / component name...

For instance, PLC4X DSP, PLC4X Signal Processor, or something what clearly
describes in one or two words / shortcuts what the component does.

See Kafka and its ecosystem: Kafka Connect, Kafka Streams, Confluent Schema
Registry, Confluent Rest Proxy, Confluent Control Center, etc...

Kai

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:05 AM Julian Feinauer <
j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking about naming and came up with ideas like...
>
> - trace4j
> - dsp4j (digital signal processing, that is)
> - pluse (as we detect pulses and stuff)
> - oscilloscope <-- I quite like that, it fits quite well as we really look
> into signals
>
> What are thoughts on those?
>
> J
>
> Am 08.09.19, 22:38 schrieb "Niclas Hedhman" :
>
> peanut gallery; I would recommend a descriptive name, in format of
> "PLC4X
> Abc", rather than a stand-alone name. Somewhere in the future, you may
> have
> a dozen of these and one wouldn't know where to start looking.
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:51 AM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just discussed (off-list) with Justin the next steps needed.
> > They are
> >
> > * fill out software grant (pm)
> > * Start IP clearance vote on incubator list (JF)
> > * Gather ICLA from all contributors of CRUNCH
> >
> > Parallel I’d like to start a discuss on how we should call it as
> PLC4X
> > subproject.
> >
> > Any ideas or suggestions?
> >
> > Julian
> >
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://polygene.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>
>
>