Re: [DF1/GENERAL] Netty Serial Port Support
Hi Chris, yes, I agree with you and also +1 do it in PLC4X. You just sounded as if this would even be better from your perspective than in Netty, so I explained it. I don’t want to do this on my own or so... nah J Am 14.08.19, 12:13 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi Julian, I agree, that having the netty team support that, would be the best option, but as far as I understood you, they don't want to. So I thought that option would be off the table. I thought the options on the table were: - You Maintain and Release it outside of Apache - We create a dedicated repo and handle it there (Perhaps as sub-project) - We build something that is just usable in PLC4X and have it as part of the project - We build something that's also generally usable and in addition add the glue to integrate it into PLC4X and have both in the project And I am in strong favor of the last option. If the option of the Netty project hosting, maintaining and releasing it isn't off the table, then I'm in +100 for going down that path. Chris Am 14.08.19, 12:07 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi Chris, the main reason for me to "give it away" is the maintenance of the module. As we did not shine in the past for our in-depth expertice of netty (not looking at someone here...) it is a bit wanky and always in the danger of becoming "abandoned" : ) Julian Am 14.08.19, 12:04 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi Julian, a strong +1 for keeping it here. For the raw socket stuff I think I had even added the "raw-socket" module to "utils" which should become a netty transport you could use outside of PLC4X. And then a "plc4j-protocol-driver-base-raw-socket" which sort of is the glue to bring that module into our world. I think the directory structure could use some cleaning up, but how about doing it that way for the serial stuff ... Create the PLC4X agnostic library in "utlils" and update the existing plc4j-protocol-driver-base-serial module to use that. Of course, if an external project wants to use it, they can and it's a little group-id fame for Toddy. Chris Am 14.08.19, 11:54 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi all, As some of you may know (not sure if it was on the list) I hacked together a bridge between Netty 4 and Serial Port connectivity. I opened a discussion on the (somehow inofficial and half-deprecated) Netty dev list and already got a response from Norman (main maintainer of Netty, I think), see [1]. They would prefer to have the code not there (I would prefer to have it there) so I will create a module in PLC4X to host it there for now. Although it could even be in a separate repo (bc it could be used by others then PLC4X) its easiest to have it here with LEGAL and all that stuff (than in a separate repo of mine or so). Any comments or objections (other than if I look at the raw sockets impl) ? Julian PS.: Yes Chris, I’ll look at raw sockets when I’m done with that :P [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/netty/VkuE-IbURvc
Re: [DF1/GENERAL] Netty Serial Port Support
Hi Julian, I agree, that having the netty team support that, would be the best option, but as far as I understood you, they don't want to. So I thought that option would be off the table. I thought the options on the table were: - You Maintain and Release it outside of Apache - We create a dedicated repo and handle it there (Perhaps as sub-project) - We build something that is just usable in PLC4X and have it as part of the project - We build something that's also generally usable and in addition add the glue to integrate it into PLC4X and have both in the project And I am in strong favor of the last option. If the option of the Netty project hosting, maintaining and releasing it isn't off the table, then I'm in +100 for going down that path. Chris Am 14.08.19, 12:07 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi Chris, the main reason for me to "give it away" is the maintenance of the module. As we did not shine in the past for our in-depth expertice of netty (not looking at someone here...) it is a bit wanky and always in the danger of becoming "abandoned" : ) Julian Am 14.08.19, 12:04 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi Julian, a strong +1 for keeping it here. For the raw socket stuff I think I had even added the "raw-socket" module to "utils" which should become a netty transport you could use outside of PLC4X. And then a "plc4j-protocol-driver-base-raw-socket" which sort of is the glue to bring that module into our world. I think the directory structure could use some cleaning up, but how about doing it that way for the serial stuff ... Create the PLC4X agnostic library in "utlils" and update the existing plc4j-protocol-driver-base-serial module to use that. Of course, if an external project wants to use it, they can and it's a little group-id fame for Toddy. Chris Am 14.08.19, 11:54 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi all, As some of you may know (not sure if it was on the list) I hacked together a bridge between Netty 4 and Serial Port connectivity. I opened a discussion on the (somehow inofficial and half-deprecated) Netty dev list and already got a response from Norman (main maintainer of Netty, I think), see [1]. They would prefer to have the code not there (I would prefer to have it there) so I will create a module in PLC4X to host it there for now. Although it could even be in a separate repo (bc it could be used by others then PLC4X) its easiest to have it here with LEGAL and all that stuff (than in a separate repo of mine or so). Any comments or objections (other than if I look at the raw sockets impl) ? Julian PS.: Yes Chris, I’ll look at raw sockets when I’m done with that :P [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/netty/VkuE-IbURvc
Re: [DF1/GENERAL] Netty Serial Port Support
Hi Chris, the main reason for me to "give it away" is the maintenance of the module. As we did not shine in the past for our in-depth expertice of netty (not looking at someone here...) it is a bit wanky and always in the danger of becoming "abandoned" : ) Julian Am 14.08.19, 12:04 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi Julian, a strong +1 for keeping it here. For the raw socket stuff I think I had even added the "raw-socket" module to "utils" which should become a netty transport you could use outside of PLC4X. And then a "plc4j-protocol-driver-base-raw-socket" which sort of is the glue to bring that module into our world. I think the directory structure could use some cleaning up, but how about doing it that way for the serial stuff ... Create the PLC4X agnostic library in "utlils" and update the existing plc4j-protocol-driver-base-serial module to use that. Of course, if an external project wants to use it, they can and it's a little group-id fame for Toddy. Chris Am 14.08.19, 11:54 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi all, As some of you may know (not sure if it was on the list) I hacked together a bridge between Netty 4 and Serial Port connectivity. I opened a discussion on the (somehow inofficial and half-deprecated) Netty dev list and already got a response from Norman (main maintainer of Netty, I think), see [1]. They would prefer to have the code not there (I would prefer to have it there) so I will create a module in PLC4X to host it there for now. Although it could even be in a separate repo (bc it could be used by others then PLC4X) its easiest to have it here with LEGAL and all that stuff (than in a separate repo of mine or so). Any comments or objections (other than if I look at the raw sockets impl) ? Julian PS.: Yes Chris, I’ll look at raw sockets when I’m done with that :P [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/netty/VkuE-IbURvc
Re: [DF1/GENERAL] Netty Serial Port Support
Hi Julian, a strong +1 for keeping it here. For the raw socket stuff I think I had even added the "raw-socket" module to "utils" which should become a netty transport you could use outside of PLC4X. And then a "plc4j-protocol-driver-base-raw-socket" which sort of is the glue to bring that module into our world. I think the directory structure could use some cleaning up, but how about doing it that way for the serial stuff ... Create the PLC4X agnostic library in "utlils" and update the existing plc4j-protocol-driver-base-serial module to use that. Of course, if an external project wants to use it, they can and it's a little group-id fame for Toddy. Chris Am 14.08.19, 11:54 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi all, As some of you may know (not sure if it was on the list) I hacked together a bridge between Netty 4 and Serial Port connectivity. I opened a discussion on the (somehow inofficial and half-deprecated) Netty dev list and already got a response from Norman (main maintainer of Netty, I think), see [1]. They would prefer to have the code not there (I would prefer to have it there) so I will create a module in PLC4X to host it there for now. Although it could even be in a separate repo (bc it could be used by others then PLC4X) its easiest to have it here with LEGAL and all that stuff (than in a separate repo of mine or so). Any comments or objections (other than if I look at the raw sockets impl) ? Julian PS.: Yes Chris, I’ll look at raw sockets when I’m done with that :P [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/netty/VkuE-IbURvc
[DF1/GENERAL] Netty Serial Port Support
Hi all, As some of you may know (not sure if it was on the list) I hacked together a bridge between Netty 4 and Serial Port connectivity. I opened a discussion on the (somehow inofficial and half-deprecated) Netty dev list and already got a response from Norman (main maintainer of Netty, I think), see [1]. They would prefer to have the code not there (I would prefer to have it there) so I will create a module in PLC4X to host it there for now. Although it could even be in a separate repo (bc it could be used by others then PLC4X) its easiest to have it here with LEGAL and all that stuff (than in a separate repo of mine or so). Any comments or objections (other than if I look at the raw sockets impl) ? Julian PS.: Yes Chris, I’ll look at raw sockets when I’m done with that :P [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/netty/VkuE-IbURvc