[racket-dev] `math' compilation time

2013-02-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
According to my rough count (and running setup with a -j 1), compiling `math' takes 40% of the whole tree compilation. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] I'd like to add a sidebar link to all documentation versions in docs.racket-lang.org.

2013-02-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:16:13 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: Two hours ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: I think that this should be reverted, and instead make the older docs more available: I'll make another column in the all-versions page (main page

[racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-02-26 Thread Eli Barzilay
it. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] `math' compilation time !!!

2013-02-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Sunday, Eli Barzilay wrote: According to my rough count (and running setup with a -j 1), compiling `math' takes 40% of the whole tree compilation. I'm surprised that nobody finds this disturbing. Maybe it was the lack of bangs in the subject. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-02-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Asumu Takikawa wrote: On 2013-02-26 09:53:11 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: I have finally implemented a script that hacks the on-line doc pages. Currently, it does the following (and you can see the changes on the web now): Maybe I'm missing something, but the changes have been

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-02-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
Just now, Eli Barzilay wrote: * The layout should have the main column centered. (I thought that it was fine initially if the left column is part of the contents.) BTW, resolving this should happen at the CSS level, perhaps just reorganizing them should make it work. But if not, then I

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-03-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
Two hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:36:54 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: * The layout should have the main column centered. (I thought that it was fine initially if the left column is part of the contents.) That column alignment looks good, now. Also, I like

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-03-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
Two hours ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: Two hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: The content column is wider than in the normal documentation display. That makes line-spanning paragraphs a little less nice to read, and it makes right-margin notes more likely to fall out of the display area

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-03-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
=docs.racket-lang.org/* / /Annotation /Annotations --- -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] using Racket to build an image-based Lisp: feasible?

2013-03-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
the namespace is probably the only thing that is needed... -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] using Racket to build an image-based Lisp: feasible?

2013-03-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
Four hours ago, mikel evins wrote: On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Aha -- in that case, it seems that your image-based workflow is not much different from working with just the sources *and* the (byte-) compiled files that go with them, right

Re: [racket-dev] Tweaked doc pages

2013-03-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
, but it happens to be a very popular name so there are tons of results before it. (Try searching for stxparam to see that it works.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26426: master branch updated

2013-03-07 Thread Eli Barzilay
)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] take, drop, split-at, etc -- and argument order, again

2013-03-09 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: Here's why I think it might be useless: For just `takef-right', it's possible to do something smart that scans the list in order, keeping a pointer to the beginning of the current good block. This avoids a double scan

Re: [racket-dev] take, drop, split-at, etc -- and argument order, again

2013-03-09 Thread Eli Barzilay
) lists. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] take, drop, split-at, etc -- and argument order, again

2013-03-09 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour ago, Robby Findler wrote: #lang racket2 ? That is much later than I hoped. (And when it comes, I certainly hope it won't be `racket2'.) On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: It's no committed pushed.  With the bad argument order. Just

Re: [racket-dev] take, drop, split-at, etc -- and argument order, again

2013-03-10 Thread Eli Barzilay
changing the require for a whole file wouldn't be useful in general. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org

[racket-dev] take/drop argument order

2013-03-10 Thread Eli Barzilay
can use only the sane order. * And another thing that can be done to reduce the name clutter is to have only the plain names, but make them accept either an index or a predicate. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] build: schemef.h - schemex.h

2013-03-10 Thread Eli Barzilay
modification times (intentionally), so a fresh clone should have all of the dates be the same. If you update the tree (eg, if you checkout a different branch), then files that were modified get a new date -- as usual. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay

Re: [racket-dev] build: schemef.h - schemex.h

2013-03-10 Thread Eli Barzilay
clone for an automated build machine. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Purpose of typed/racket/no-check

2013-04-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Purpose of typed/racket/no-check

2013-04-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Add Teachpack dialog can be very confusing

2013-04-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
be simplified into some new simplified `require' that is easier for kids -- like (use image). -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http

[racket-dev] Packages

2013-04-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
lighter, but I think that such a change will make it significantly more usable in that it's much closer to just dump your bunch of files on the web. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] Packages

2013-04-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
suggesting that that such a patch is fine if it's possible to implement without me realizing on the way some reasons against it.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] Packages

2013-04-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
50 minutes ago, Jay McCarthy wrote: On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: It all starts at how someone is expected to approach developing a package, regardless of how this is defined in the current system. A quick way to get to the core of the problem

Re: [racket-dev] take/drop argument order

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
About two weeks ago, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Late reply, but better than never. On 2013-03-10 16:20:14 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Assuming this, here's a suggestion that I made in the past for resolving this: * Make the existing `take', `drop', `split-at' accept their arguments

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26536: master branch updated

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
++--- -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26536: master branch updated

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
messages that describe the arity of procedure values.  I don't see any reason to close this stuff off, when it's the one useful, non-opaque aspect of procedure values. Carl Eastlund On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Is there a real need to make

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26536: master branch updated

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
it possible to always use a procedure where an arity is expected. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket

Re: [racket-dev] take/drop argument order

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
) etc while keeping the current arguments as a compatibility feature. Another possibility is adding a `#:from-end' keyword for the `*-right' variants (and keep the existing ones for compatibility). 50 minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: About two weeks ago, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Late

Re: [racket-dev] take/drop argument order

2013-04-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
An hour ago, Asumu Takikawa wrote: On 2013-04-11 12:05:59 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Remove the `*f' functions from the interface, and change the non-`*f' functions to accept keywords as follows: (take #:num N L) (take #:while P L) (take #:until P L) I like

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26623: master branch updated

2013-04-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
50 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: Did you consider adding a test case? I have one, but did not commit it since I waited for a build to finish last night. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.4, Final Draft

2013-05-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
to the Racket package repository. It might be good to include some very quick instructions on how to install it. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket

Re: [racket-dev] Release Announcement for v5.3.4

2013-05-01 Thread Eli Barzilay
) Maybe add a misc item with an enumeration of these things? (Just a word on each so there's a hook for looking in the docs for the new feature.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] else clauses: possible change to match?

2013-05-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
you have an actual use that would *break*? That is, something like (match x ... [else else]) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list

Re: [racket-dev] TR tests sometimes fail with a promise error

2013-05-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
() (define p (make-promise/thread #f)) (pset! p (make-running-thread (thread (λ() ...same... p)) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] TR tests sometimes fail with a promise error

2013-05-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Vincent St-Amour wrote: At Fri, 3 May 2013 11:56:02 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: (define (delay/thread thunk) (let () (define p (make-promise/thread #f)) (pset! p (make-running-thread (thread (λ() ...same... p)) I think

Re: [racket-dev] else clauses: possible change to match?

2013-05-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
a much more relaxed policy about breaking compatibility in cases like this: so far there was no real code found that uses the feature, but there is one instance of code that would get fixed by the change...] -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay

[racket-dev] svn server going mostly read-only

2013-05-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
JFYI, I've made the svn server be mostly read-only. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-20 Thread Eli Barzilay
. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-21 Thread Eli Barzilay
the new repos. I think that this offers the best in terms of being flexible as needed while work is in progress, and separating the changes that people need to adjust too which should make the whole process more comfortable. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-21 Thread Eli Barzilay
for all of the packages. I think that it might makes sense to keep some meta repository for people who want a convenient checkout of all packages -- but if you don't like submodules, you just don't use it. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-22 Thread Eli Barzilay
-repo-split revolution, nothing is lost, since the result is still a better build + distribution process.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages

2013-05-22 Thread Eli Barzilay
you won't worry about it beind left somewhere, and at a point where it's fine to installed as a kind of a shared runtime thing for someone who wants to distribute racket-based applications. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-23 Thread Eli Barzilay
9 hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Wed, 22 May 2013 14:50:41 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: That's true, but the downside of changing the structure and having files and directories move post structure change will completely destroy the relevant edit history of the files, since

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-23 Thread Eli Barzilay
)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-23 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Carl Eastlund wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: 9 hours ago, Carl Eastlund wrote: I was going to comment on the same thing.  While a naive use of git filter-branch might not retain the history, it should

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-23 Thread Eli Barzilay
Just now, Carl Eastlund wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: A few minutes ago, Carl Eastlund wrote: It doesn't seem wrong to me.  It's an accurate representation of the history of the project, which is exactly what git

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
that it will guarantee losing history. (And I'll reply to Matthew's suggested tool next.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
8 hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Thu, 23 May 2013 07:09:17 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Relevant history is vague. The history I want corresponds to `git log --follow' on each of the files that end up in a repository. (In this context this is clear; the problem in Carl's post

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: binary vs source

2013-05-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
for example, if realm must be distributed with its sources, it can just specify that and avoid the stripping that other packages would go through. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
Four hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Fri, 24 May 2013 03:26:45 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: If that can be done reliabely, then of course it makes it possible to do the split reliabley after the first restructure. Great! Let's do that, because I remain convinced that it's going

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Friday, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Fri, 24 May 2013 12:44:35 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: * The script should also take care to deal with files that got removed in the past. Ditto. I don't believe that it's *not* doing this, so I did the double-check in the form of a test

Re: [racket-dev] proposal for moving to packages: repository

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
/signature/lang/reader.ss C066 collects/frtime/reactive/lang/reader.ss collects/racket/unit/lang/reader.ss 09bed0d Kevin Tew (1 year, 3 months ago) Initial Distributed Places commit C100 collects/combinator-parser/info.rkt collects/racket/place/distributed/info.rkt e788903 Eli Barzilay (1

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
havine 3 repos for N packages sound like a very unfun thing to deal with.) But I do want the ability to have these partial-contents packages built for distribution. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
on your own... (Or do so now and save some splitting work.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
contributions to the code you do/might make are a kind of a suggestion), so it's better to split them; and also there is no sharing of code + maintenance (which is why this point doesn't apply to core stuff). -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
... -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
that will be one form of discouragement, but there will also be problems that are harder to deal with.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-05-29 Thread Eli Barzilay
) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-05-30 Thread Eli Barzilay
))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-02 Thread Eli Barzilay
into the package system. 40 minutes ago, Laurent wrote: Ah, that's cool. Looking forward to it! And the in-url thing would be useful indeed for gists for example. Laurent On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yes, I really want to try and get to look

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
packages, I think. FWIW, I'd view this (avoid fine slicing) as a possible way to avoid growing hacks, but I really like the idea of smaller packages and the benefits it comes with. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Laurent wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: To clarify, because of reasons that I won't go into on the list, the actual chances of me getting this implemented (and of such a change being accepted) are pretty much in the area

Re: [racket-dev] member like assoc

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
be nicer with an extra `member` argument than with `memf`. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
50 minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:27:19 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: A very cheap way to do this is to use these sub-package specifications only for creating packages for distribution. With the obvious resulting package file names, this means

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
(I completely agree with you, so I'll take it off-line.) 30 minutes ago, Laurent wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yesterday, Laurent wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote:     To clarify

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26926: master branch updated

2013-06-03 Thread Eli Barzilay
) +(regexp-match #rx^y[01: ]* x (exn-message x + (λ () (raise-read-eof-error +x y 1 1 1 1))) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] experiment reorganizing the repo into packages

2013-06-04 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:36:51 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: (BTW, a possible source of confusion: I'm assuming that distribution must be done via archives and not via repository specs, since there should be some way to put the compiled files in there. I don't

Re: [racket-dev] PLaneT(2): Single vs multi-collection packages

2013-06-04 Thread Eli Barzilay
have a repository without a directory to hold it. So I view an `in-url' thing is the way for this super-cheap code distribution.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] ready for the package switch?

2013-06-18 Thread Eli Barzilay
the potential to bad rename detection damages. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] ready for the package switch?

2013-06-19 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Carl Eastlund wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: 20 minutes ago, Carl Eastlund wrote: [...]   git rebase -s recursive -X rename-threshold=50% mflatt/pkg2 From a brief reading, I think that you're much better off

Re: [racket-dev] ready for the package switch?

2013-06-19 Thread Eli Barzilay
))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26989: master branch updated

2013-06-19 Thread Eli Barzilay
, the more difficult it will be to fix it later. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #26989: master branch updated

2013-06-19 Thread Eli Barzilay
30 minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:54:00 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Four hours ago, mfl...@racket-lang.org wrote: D collects/2htdp/image.rkt D collects/algol60/info.rkt D collects/browser/info.rkt D collects/compiler/embed-unit.rkt D collects

Re: [racket-dev] Mangaging `unstable` with packages

2013-06-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
more useful (IMO). Also, `group' sounds way too generic for something as specific as what it does. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers

Re: [racket-dev] Mangaging `unstable` with packages

2013-06-24 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: On Friday, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: # `unstable/list` - `remf`, `list-update` `list-set` `map/values`: move to `racket/list` - `group-by`: rename to `group`, add

Re: [racket-dev] `raco link', links.rktd, pkgs, and config.rktd

2013-06-25 Thread Eli Barzilay
can act like /lib things. Can you explain this more? I don't see the connection. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http

Re: [racket-dev] Things we could move out of the core

2013-06-25 Thread Eli Barzilay
If this seems like a good idea to people, I'm happy to go ahead and start doing the work. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http

Re: [racket-dev] Things we could move out of the core

2013-06-26 Thread Eli Barzilay
size? I think that errortrace has been one of the biggest offenders in terms of bad bugs of many varieties -- and moving it out won't help. (And if I were doing a game on a phone I'd worry about any of the above much more, btw.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli

Re: [racket-dev] `raco link', links.rktd, pkgs, and config.rktd

2013-06-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
Two hours ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:04:13 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Furthermore, config.rktd can provide a list of additional files/directories to search. This allows the main links.rktd and pkgs to act like /usr/lib things, while additional directories can act

Re: [racket-dev] Package management

2013-06-27 Thread Eli Barzilay
. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] another Planet2 Express memo

2013-06-28 Thread Eli Barzilay
to list built stuff, it should leave you in a clean state with no pre-built stuff. It will not delete new files that are not ignored, so if there are new source files they will be kept. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] checking package dependencies

2013-06-30 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Matthew Flatt wrote: [...] (Sidenote: it would be nice if `--fix-pkg-deps' or something similar could also report redundant dependencies.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze

Re: [racket-dev] A grab-bag of issues

2013-07-05 Thread Eli Barzilay
.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27071: master branch updated

2013-07-05 Thread Eli Barzilay
for the file -- I view such grepping as indicators of organizational failures that should not be needed even after the repo is split, and commits like this make things worse in this regard.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http

Re: [racket-dev] A grab-bag of issues

2013-07-05 Thread Eli Barzilay
A few minutes ago, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Fri, 5 Jul 2013 18:55:32 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Yesterday, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:52:10 -0400, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: 2. It's possible to get lots of undefined tags in the documentation builds. Should

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27093: master branch updated

2013-07-05 Thread Eli Barzilay
be changed/re-written to follow http://url.spec.whatwg.org/ but that's a longer-term project. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http

Re: [racket-dev] What command should DrDr run by default?

2013-07-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
their tests in the `main` submodule, and thus are *not* executed by `raco test`. If the plan is for everything to run with `raco test`, I'll fix these tests.  But what is the plan? -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27090: master branch updated

2013-07-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, e...@racket-lang.org wrote: f90fe4c Eli Barzilay e...@racket-lang.org 2013-07-05 18:08 : | Get rid of the `#:function' keyword. | | These problems are always dealt with via an internal function instead

Re: [racket-dev] Package compatibility

2013-07-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
then it clearly conflicts with another package with the same name. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] What command should DrDr run by default?

2013-07-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
, and if there is no `test' module. This avoids the need to abuse a `test' submodule as some semi-drdr-flag-thing, since files in some tests path shouldn't be required to have a `test' submodule. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org

Re: [racket-dev] Package compatibility

2013-07-08 Thread Eli Barzilay
a package that has this hacked version of the file. I'd be mostly living in my own world whether this hack is done with a package system or directly. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27294: master branch updated

2013-08-11 Thread Eli Barzilay
))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

[racket-dev] git tag (was: package-system update)

2013-08-13 Thread Eli Barzilay
, then it is probably better to not do that anymore.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] A story of a package split

2013-08-13 Thread Eli Barzilay
are really used as repositories -- rather than trying to force it into looking like you still have a single monolithic repository.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27090: master branch updated

2013-08-14 Thread Eli Barzilay
About a month ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: On Jul 7, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: It would be nice to have some way of doing it with contracts, but that's obviously impractical -- so I think that a good way to solve it and other such problems is to add

[racket-dev] Require error

2013-08-14 Thread Eli Barzilay
has gone from being useless to being confusing... -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

[racket-dev] Fishy directory rename

2013-08-14 Thread Eli Barzilay
point is that dealing with two of these paths and comparing it with the old paths made this thing ridiculously difficult to notice.] -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life

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