Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/9/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author tags imply ownership, commits don't. Yes. The legal theory is that when we commit the code, we are accepting the donation on behalf of the ASF. Sometimes we are accepting a donation that we ourself might have created. Other times,

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Martin van den Bemt wrote: Well, I ask you... if anybody can figure out who wrote whatever code anyway, what difference is it if you put in an @author tag or not? It amounts to appending information that is available anyway, right? Author tags imply ownership, commits don't. sigh I really

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Martin van den Bemt wrote: Jonathan Revusky wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: In general, I wonder about the whole psychology behind the removal of @author tags. After all, the technical/pragmatic arguments in favor of removal strike me as extremely weak. So it has me wondering, what are the *real*

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Ted Husted wrote: On 5/9/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author tags imply ownership, commits don't. Yes. The legal theory is that when we commit the code, we are accepting the donation on behalf of the ASF. Sometimes we are accepting a donation that we ourself might have

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-08 Thread Konstantin Priblouda
--- Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ For a lead developer of concurrent project you are spending a lot of time on wrong list. Are you trying to paralize any discussion here? I must admit, that you and Dacotha Jack is the

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Konstantin Priblouda wrote: --- Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ For a lead developer of concurrent project you are spending a lot of time on wrong list. Are you trying to paralize any discussion here? LOL No, not

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop the noise! :) Christoph Christoph, what noise are you referring to? There's a conversation going on that you weren't even involved in. Nobody was even talking to you. And I didn't start this whole thread about @author tags. For the most part, I lurk on

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-07 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan, Jonathan Revusky wrote: I simply pointed out that the reasoning offered for wanting to remove the @author tags was quite tenuous, to say the least. You did more than that... you went on to bash the project and its current members, which

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-07 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan, Jonathan Revusky wrote: I simply pointed out that the reasoning offered for wanting to remove the @author tags was quite tenuous, to say the least. You did more than that... you went on to bash the project

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just sitting in Aarons' incubating open source communities talk and a subject that came up again is removing the author tags. I know, that in the past, I've been -1 on this but as we do have a CONTRIBUTORS

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 5/3/07, Ahmed Mohombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Will Glass-Husain wrote: (Let me try this again) Thanks, Ted. That's a great email. I read it and drew a rather different conclusion. All the reasons cited make sense. sigh Will, don't you see some problems of logical cogency in the text that Ted Husted cited? I mean, at some point

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm mostly neutral, though a slight preference for keeping them. I kind of like the way the author tags highlight (at a very coarse level) the history of a class. But I don't feel strongly. What's the primary

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jason Pettiss
Wow is it really that time of year already? It's time for the Annual Revusky Flamewar! Yay! Jonathan: they're talking about removing the @author tags because, as you guessed, there IS an international conspiracy! But what you don't know is you're the center of it all!!! This goes beyond

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jason Pettiss
I agree the @author tags discussion is idiotic but it's not my list. Nor is it yours. Be curious about motivations if you like but in that case just email the people you want to talk to. I have to follow this list, because I do use Velocity, and have modified it for my own purposes. The

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Jason Pettiss wrote: I agree the @author tags discussion is idiotic but it's not my list. Nor is it yours. Be curious about motivations if you like but in that case just email the people you want to talk to. I have to follow this list, because I do use Velocity, and have modified it for my

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Jason Pettiss wrote: Aye, it's an open list, say what you want. I will too. The features that have been ignored for so long are features I didn't even want supported in the first place. The bugs I needed fixed, were fixed. Jason, we've had some private dialogue, which kind of degenerated. I

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Daniel Dekany
Monday, May 7, 2007, 4:37:53 AM, Jonathan Revusky wrote: Well, I dunno. Why does a guy sit on a bike, wearing the culotte and other cyclist paraphernalia, when he doesn't even like cycling? I don't know, maybe it's that the starting was already wrong. If I know well, basically, Velocity was

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jason Pettiss
I suppose I could fittingly add I'm rubber, you're glue, I use Velocity and not FreeMarker so too bad for you. But I won't. oh wait. Daniel Dekany wrote: Monday, May 7, 2007, 4:37:53 AM, Jonathan Revusky wrote: Well, I dunno. Why does a guy sit on a bike, wearing the culotte and other

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I had problems, I was able to ask directly the author(s) of

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I had problems, I was able to ask directly the author(s) of

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the primary reason for the recommendation? Here's Greg Stein's reasoning: * http://tinyurl.com/mw7t6 -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 5/3/07, Ahmed Mohombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I had