Re: Let's set up a proper spam testing system

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Kelly
On 9/07/2015 03:13, John Gruen wrote: > We should really be doing a better job of automating and testing spam > scores for FxA emails. One of the major factors determining email > spammy-ness is the overall reputation score of the email service > provider. This means that running spam tests from l

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Kelly
On 9/07/2015 12:00, Ryan Kelly wrote: > On 9/07/2015 11:48, Mark Hammond wrote: >> I think the new mockups look better. I share the concern about adding >> extra friction, but that seems under control. >> >> The only other point is that there was some discussion about letting >> users correct the

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Kelly
On 9/07/2015 03:30, Ryan Feeley wrote: > I’m more interested in engagement than adoption. I think we need to > consider single-device syncers as a failure of UX because sync is not a > good back up solution (until we make it one, which I support). This is an important perspective, although I don't

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Hammond
On 9/07/2015 12:00 PM, Ryan Kelly wrote: In Mark's example above, the user completes customization of their account before realizing that they typo-ed their email address. To fix it up, they just do a normal "change your email" operation and get on with things, without losing their customized pr

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Kelly
On 9/07/2015 11:48, Mark Hammond wrote: > I think the new mockups look better. I share the concern about adding > extra friction, but that seems under control. > > The only other point is that there was some discussion about letting > users correct the email address they used (eg, on a typo). ISTM

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Hammond
I think the new mockups look better. I share the concern about adding extra friction, but that seems under control. The only other point is that there was some discussion about letting users correct the email address they used (eg, on a typo). ISTM we might as well get that in this flow too -

PTO notification from John Gruen (Aug 13, 2015 - Aug 21, 2015)

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
John Gruen has submitted 56 hours of PTO from Aug 13, 2015 to Aug 21, 2015 with the details: I am taking a vacation. - The Happy PTO Managing Intranet App ___ Dev-fxacct mailing list Dev-fxacct@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-fxacct

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
Ryan, Changing the sub-header on the first run page goes a long way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0fflalrtnn85f5e/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-08%20at%202.37.06%20PM.png?dl=0 > On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:26 PM, John Gruen wrote: > > Here’s something we can definitely agree about. The demo first run page do

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
Here’s something we can definitely agree about. The demo first run page does very little to support the multi-device value prop [1] A lot of our users have no idea that we make Android of iOS clients. For them, the term “everywhere you use firefox” currently just refers to a single machine. Why

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Feeley
Again, if Pocket has 98% acceptance of the email permission screen, we can assume a similar screen will have similar success. We don’t need to rush people into registering for something they don’t understand. There may be benefits to introducing this before verification, and I agree, we should m

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
I’m definitely in agreement that multi device signup is the right thing but by lengthening the pre-verified flow by 400% we’re going to heavily increase exit/bounce and lose the relationship altogether. It feels like we’d be cutting off our nose to spite our collective faces. Without an account,

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Shane Tomlinson
Ryan and John, Can you coordinate this with the Growth team? They have similar goals to drive multi-device and are proposing other solutions. FWIW, even asking for the "Make Firefox Yours" info pre-verification makes me somewhat nervous about how that'll affect signup. It's testable though. Shane

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Ryan Feeley
I’ve added some comments to the slide you should be able to see in link below (green post-its). I’m more interested in engagement than adoption. I think we need to consider single-device syncers as a failure of UX because sync is not a good back up solution (until we make it one, which I suppor

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread Edwin Wong
I'd like to see an A/B test where we put 'make fx yours' screen before/after verified email screen. Our users will tell us if increased friction vs early customization gets users through the flow. -e On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:33 AM, John Gruen wrote: > Agree with Mark and Ryan K. on the problem

Let's set up a proper spam testing system

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
We should really be doing a better job of automating and testing spam scores for FxA emails. One of the major factors determining email spammy-ness is the overall reputation score of the email service provider. This means that running spam tests from localhost will not produce consistent, repre

Re: Onboarding-Enhanced Sync Registration

2015-07-08 Thread John Gruen
Agree with Mark and Ryan K. on the problem of overloading the funnel before registration. It seems like there are two competing interests coming into play here: increasing signups vs increasing engagement. Is there a middle path where we can do both? I’ve reworked the flow to hopefully address