Re: OS/2 still supported ?

On 2017-07-24 8:27 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: Hi folks, I see lots of #ifdef XP_OS2 ... is OS/2 still supported at all ? Our list of supported platforms is here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Supported_build_configurations - mhoye

Re: Announcing MozillaBuild 3.0 Release

On 2017-07-22 3:13 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Personally I find this a bad idea. Windows 7 and 8.1 are still supported till 2020 and 2023. As long as the compilers are supported too on them these should also be fully supported as a build environment. Unfortunately we have to build _for_ a

Re: Intent to remove: sensor APIs

I have a sense that as AR gets richer and more nuanced that ambient light and proximity sensing will become important as well, even if we're not there yet. - mhoye On 2017-07-24 10:39 AM, Blair MacIntyre wrote: I was just about to say the same thing. This API is essential for our AR work;

Re: 64-bit Firefox progress report: 2017-07-18

On 2017-07-19 3:58 AM, Chris Peterson wrote: On 2017-07-19 12:01 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: What's the plan for eligible people that still want to keep 32-bit Firefox? Outside of our QA team (or others orgs, I guess?) do we have a set of use cases that would motivate people to flip that switch?

Re: Phabricator Update, July 2017

On 7/16/17 11:10 PM, Edmund Wong wrote: Joe Hildebrand wrote: I'm responding at the top of the thread here so that I'm not singling out any particular response. We didn't make clear in this process how much work Mark and his team did ahead of the decision to gather feedback from senior

Re: Better download security through browsers

PM, Mike Hoye <mh...@mozilla.com> wrote: My 2006 proposal didn't get any traction either. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2006Jan/0270.html FWIW I still think it'd be a good idea with the right UI. - mhoye On 2017-03-24 1:16 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: I re

Re: Better download security through browsers

My 2006 proposal didn't get any traction either. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2006Jan/0270.html FWIW I still think it'd be a good idea with the right UI. - mhoye On 2017-03-24 1:16 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: I remember that Gerv was interested in a similar idea

Re: windows build anti-virus exclusion list?

On 2017-03-17 12:06 AM, Ben Kelly wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Ben Kelly > wrote: On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Michael Hoye > wrote: Depending on your AV, if you

Re: The future of commit access policy for core Firefox

On 2017-03-14 7:10 PM, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: /me just loves when a new set of “rules” are put in place to prevent a problem that has never existed so far and will be a hindrance to everyone in the future. Two dozen or so of our most veteran engineers are deeply involved in this

Re: Please don't abuse "No bug" in commit messages

On 2017-02-03 2:01 PM, Steve Fink wrote: Typo/whitespace - No bug is fine, but if it is associated with a recent landing of some bug, then you should use that bug number anyway. Makes uplifts cleaner. Whitespace errors seem like a wierd thing for an engineer to be working on?. Code cleanup

Re: GCC 4.9 now required to build on Linux/Android

On 2016-12-23 11:08 AM, Nathan Froyd wrote: Bug 1322792 has landed on inbound, which changes configure to require GCC 4.9 to build; our automation switched over to GCC 4.9 for our Linux builds earlier this week. (Android builds have been using GCC 4.9 for some time.) I happened to be

Re: Terminating xulrunner?

On 2016-11-28 9:32 PM, edunl...@gmail.com wrote: My Firefox Thunderbird will not open correctly because it wants XUL Runner to be 45.5.0. Can you help me? Unfortunately, XULRunner hasn't been under active development since mid-2015, and was never officially supported. I suggest

Re: Using Firefox to test the Visual C++ compiler

On 2016-11-16 2:29 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: 3. What Windows OS do you use for testing? Window 10, Windows 8, etc? Any other configuration work needed, such as disabling the antivirus/firewall? We build on Windows 8, Windows XP (possibly actually NT 2008?) and Windows 2012 aws images. Look for

Re: Rationalising Linux audio backend support

On 2016-07-13 10:31 PM, ajo...@mozilla.com wrote: Our official Firefox builds on Linux support both PulseAudio and ALSA. There are a number of additional contributed backends that can be turned on at compile time, although contribution towards long-term maintenance and matching feature parity

Re: URL translation map Re: MXR permanently offline, please transition to DXR

On 2016-07-06 11:08 AM, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: I didn't file the bug because I don't know if it make sense to rewrite on the source tree (instead of implementing the rewrite). Feel free to file. Thanks. Bug 1284887 filed, thanks. - mhoye ___

Re: URL translation map Re: MXR permanently offline, please transition to DXR

On 2016-07-06 1:46 AM, Tim Guan-tin Chien wrote: We really need to get the vanilla redirect done at least, since, ironically, "mxr.mozilla.org " is even referenced in the code base! https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?q=mxr.mozilla.org=false Cleaning those

Re: URL translation map Re: MXR permanently offline, please transition to DXR

On 2016-06-30 9:50 PM, Karl Dubost wrote: Gregory, Le 1 juil. 2016 à 09:33, Gregory Szorc a écrit : I want the site to publish a "URL translation map" for URL patterns so whole URL namespaces can be bulk updated. Interesting idea. Probably something to explain in a wiki

Re: MXR permanently offline, please transition to DXR

On 2016-06-24 6:20 AM, Philip Chee wrote: I wonder what is necessary to set up an instance of MXR (for comm-*) on our own server (or vps). I would guess PERL, hg, and a Linux VM. I've got the impression that comm-* has enough rocks to push up the legacy-stack hill already. - mhoye

Re: 32-bit developer edition?

On 2016-06-03 8:51 AM, Ben Kelly wrote: In any case, we're not showing a 64-bit link anywhere now. Who should I pester or where should I file a bug to get that fixed? Mozilla.org :: webdev - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: How badly out of date is this?

On 2016-06-01 5:02 AM, L. David Baron wrote: So I tend to think it's worth keeping, but with a preface that clearly labels it as historical and no longer good practice, and perhaps with an appendix pointing to the current practices. Hey, Sheppy - Should we make a practice of stripping anchor

Re: How do we measure active users on a given architecture?

On 2016-05-25 2:04 AM, Eric Rahm wrote: So my question is: How many of these users are actively updating? I think this would be useful in making decisions on what support to deprecate. You should come to the "Accessing Data @ Mozilla" elective in London. It'll be a whole series of lightning

Re: Starting to contribute (Need Help!!)

On 2016-05-20 4:23 PM, mistr...@iitj.ac.in wrote: Hi everyone! I am an undergraduate student and I want to start contributing to the Mozilla community. So it would be awesome if someone could tell me where to start from specifically and also what should I learn before starting. Hi! Thanks

Re: Requiring SSE2 on all 32-bit x86 OSs

On 2016-05-18 7:38 AM, Tobias B. Besemer wrote: N00b question: Is this really a discussion if Firefox should support CPUs older then 13-15 years ?? Right now Firefox supports users on platforms their creators have long abandoned - WinXP, pre-SSE2 CPUs, OSX 10.6-8, older Android. Firefox is

Re: Ignoring viewpoints of non-Mozilla-employees can't be the way to go for a OSS project!

On 2016-05-09 2:23 PM, Tobias B. Besemer wrote: Think Mozilla should find his way back to his roots! Would be nice, if some people think about it! While reasonable people can disagree about policy decisions, Bugzilla has never been the right place to air those disagreements. - mhoye

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

On 2016-05-06 12:26 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: FWIW, the crashes we've seen so far are from incorrectly emitted movss instructions. This instruction is part of the original SSE instruction set, which was initially unveiled by Intel on the Pentium 3 in 1999 and later by AMD on the Duron and Athlon

Re: Proof-of-concept firefox branch

On 2016-04-25 2:41 PM, a...@imgland.xyz wrote: I am a developer who has experimented with Firefox tweaking before and I would be intrested in running a "proof-of-concept" branch or fork of Firefox with the latest features added before any sort of review to see how they play out in a normal

Re: Triage Plan for Firefox Components

On 2016-04-01 11:32 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: On 01/04/2016 16:16, Andrew McCreight wrote: The drawback of indicating priorities in this way is that it is totally opaque to anybody who is not on that particular subteam, let alone somebody who is using Bugzilla for the first time to report

Re: Introducing MOZ_ALWAYS_SUCCEEDS

On 2016-03-29 5:19 PM, Kyle Huey wrote: For when you are too lazy to type MOZ_ALWAYS_TRUE(NS_SUCCEEDS(foo)). Any chance we can get this on a t-shirt? - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Triage Plan for Firefox Components

On 2016-03-29 8:09 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: On a more substantive, less procedural note, this seems to be designed for a particular workflow in which there is an assumption that bugs are for immediate processing. However, in may cases we use bugs as placeholders or assemble big dependency

Re: Does SSE2 usage still need to be conditional?

On 2016-01-29 2:05 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: On 1/29/16 9:43 AM, Ashley Gullen wrote: FWIW, the Steam Hardware Survey says 99.99% of users have SSE2 (under "other settings"): http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey For that to be valid, one must assume that the population of Firefox users and

Re: Where to put docker documentation?

On 2016-01-22 12:07 PM, Armen Zambrano G. wrote: We're now running side by side Linux x64 debug test jobs inside of docker on TaskCluster [1] Where could I add instructions on how to run jobs running inside of docker? (mdn? the tree? else?) MDN please. Docker is going to going to be important

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

On 2016-01-04 12:31 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: By "this sort of software" do you mean "Firefox"? Because that's what 95% of our users experiencing this are going to do absent anything clever on our end. We clearly need to determine the scale of the problem to determine how much time it's worth

Re: Heads-up: SHA1 deprecation (for newly issued certs) causes trouble with local ssl-proxy mitm spyware

On 2016-01-04 12:48 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Mike Hoye <mh...@mozilla.com <mailto:mh...@mozilla.com>> wrote: On 2016-01-04 12:31 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: By "this sort of software" do you mean "Firefox"? Because

Re: Proposal to a) rewrite Gecko's encoding converters and b) to do it in Rust

On 2015-12-14 4:06 PM, Justin Dolske wrote: On 12/14/15 2:51 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: [...]Obviously this isn't something we like to see, but we shouldn't let the support of non-Tier 1 platforms guide our decision making to that extent. Enabling Rust components in Gecko is important work, and

Re: Dan Stillman's concerns about Extension Signing

On 2015-11-28 2:40 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote: How odd that your e-mail was in response to mine, then. Thanks, super helpful, really moved the discussion forward, high five. To Ehsan's point that "malicious code here might look like this: console.log("success"); [and] It's impossible to tell by

Re: Dan Stillman's concerns about Extension Signing

On 2015-11-26 11:07 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: I haven't followed the overall discussion closely, but This is not OK. Does anyone here actually think that the team that's been busting their asses over this for months _doesn't_ have better information and more insight into this problem

Re: TIFU by using Math.random()

On 2015-11-25 9:33 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: On 25.11.2015 12:42, Philip Chee wrote: Hopefully Spidermonkey's Math.random() is better. Phil There have been multiple insightful responses on HN and reddit/netsec.

Re: Prioritizing tests based on file changes

On 2015-09-03 4:24 PM, Christopher Manchester wrote: Work is ongoing on an approach to select/prioritize tests based on the files that a push changes. https://youtu.be/IUZEtVbJT5c?t=20 - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Decreasing quality?

On 2015-08-20 2:35 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: I'm not talking about any specific issues, I was just wondering if others were seeing a trend. For what it's worth, living on Nightly + e10s + a multiscreen setup has been pretty hard on the soul for a couple of months now, but I don't think that's

Re: I need to give my 2–coins–worth on this topic, please. (Re: Can we make a plan to retire Universal Mac builds?)

On 2015-08-15 3:02 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: On 8/12/15 3:32 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: Relatedly, why does Tenfourfox use a different branding? Because I didn't want to get into the whole Ice* thing again. I have nothing to add to this except to say that this is a pure and noble goal, and I

Re: mozglue.dll crash

On 2015-07-24 7:37 AM, Meenakshi Shankar wrote: Hi, We are using Firefox SDKS for our FF extension (libs generated after compiling Firefox 40 beta 4 source using start-shell-msvc2013). As there are some differences between Firefox 39 and Firefox 40 binaries, instead of mozalloc.lib , the

Re: LGPL external library support in gecko

On 2015-07-08 2:17 AM, Kyle Machulis wrote: If you've had requirements for an external library with an LGPL license, we now have a place to put them. This is fully awesome. - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Revisiting modelines in source files

On 2015-06-18 8:36 PM, Eric Rahm wrote: On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 7:28:44 AM UTC-7, kgu...@mozilla.com wrote: // This is a comment that was previously just over the eighty // character // limit but got rewrapped by clang-format just blindly // inserting // linebreaks willy-nilly and

Re: Revisiting modelines in source files

On 2015-06-17 6:53 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: So how about removing modelines and adding editorconfig files? I understand we're considering (or getting close to?) autoformatting code on check-in. Intuitively* that would obsolete editor-level config, (and save some time and nit-effort) but I

Re: Voting in BMO

On 2015-06-11 3:48 PM, R Kent James wrote: Maybe the correct fix is to start paying attention to votes. If you choose your project priorities based on internet voting, you're gonna have a bad time. The word vote implies that the act of voting has a direct effect on the outcome, which is

Re: Voting in BMO

On 2015-06-10 3:55 AM, Mark Banner wrote: Replying to this got me thinking - what about changing vote to I have this issue similar to support.mozilla.org. However, I think the usefulness would end up in the same way as voting. As a suggestion though, how about adding something near the

Re: Replacing PR_LOG levels

On 2015-05-22 7:50 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Eric Rahm wrote: enum class LogLevel { Disabled = 0, // Logging is disabled for this module Error, Warning, Info, Debug, }; Just for comparison with other popular logging libraries:

Re: PSA: Xcode+gecko for newbies instructional video

On 2015-05-22 2:19 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: Do we have instructions for Visual Studio anywhere? Video for Visual Studio Community Edition and Eclipse would both be very much welcomed by the community. - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-05-05 4:59 AM, sn...@arbor.net wrote: Encryption should be activated only after BOTH parties have mutually authenticated. Why establish an encrypted transport to an unknown attacker? A web you have to uniquely identify yourself to participate in is really not open or free for an awful

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-05-04 8:37 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: I think without empirical evidence showing the *current* (as opposed to arguments from 20 years ago) importance of shared caching on the supposed constrained networks--i.e. empirical evidence showing that the shared cache hit rate is is a

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-05-01 3:40 PM, Eric Shepherd wrote: In my case, the situation is that I have classic computers running 1-10 megahertz processors, for which encrypting and decrypting SSL is not a plausible option. These computers have a burgeoning retro fanbase trying to push them to do new and

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-05-01 1:13 PM, lauren4...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again. Listen up, guys. That's not going to be a winning approach here. - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-05-01 2:06 PM, Eric Shepherd wrote: There are a lot of things that don't need encryption, and sites that serve legacy purposes and/or audiences, and cannot be updated to https in the first place. Encryption is not about protecting data. Encryption is about protecting people. -

Re: Removing cruft preferences

On 2015-04-29 12:48 PM, Eric Shepherd wrote: Boris Zbarsky wrote: I'd appreciate it if people would go through their IDL, find the things that are still cruft, and remove them... The docs team would appreciate a heads-up for any that get removed (either by email or by dev-doc-needed if you

Re: You can now log into BMO with your GitHub account

On 2015-04-27 10:54 AM, Mark Côté wrote: On 2015-04-27 10:41 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: What does special administrative or security permissions mean? Can a user logged in via GitHub have editbugs or canconfirm? editbugs and canconfirm on their own are fine. The vast majority of users will be able

Re: You can now log into BMO with your GitHub account

On 2015-04-27 10:15 AM, Mark Côté wrote: This morning we enabled a feature on bugzilla.mozilla.org that allows users to log in with their GitHub credentials, similar to our existing Persona support. If you have several email addresses associated with your GitHub account, you will be prompted to

Re: Tiles Design Questions (was Re: Improving trust and transparency for Suggested Tiles)

On 2015-04-24 12:07 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: Who said anything about excluded? It's simply much easier to discuss detailed topics in a small real-time setting. If there are community members who are well-prepared for this discussion, I don't see why they couldn't be participants. There's no

Re: Tiles Design Questions (was Re: Improving trust and transparency for Suggested Tiles)

On 2015-04-24 10:14 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mike Hoye mh...@mozilla.com mailto:mh...@mozilla.com wrote: On 2015-04-24 12:07 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote: Who said anything about excluded? It's simply much easier to discuss detailed topics

Re: Treeherder UI performance much worse in Nightly vs Chrome

On 2015-04-23 10:43 AM, Ed Morley wrote: Scrolling fluidity/general app responsiveness of Treeherder is massively worse in Nightly compared to Chrome. eg try this in both: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=mozilla-central I asked some volunteers from the Reps to do an

Re: Tiles Design Questions (was Re: Improving trust and transparency for Suggested Tiles)

On 2015-04-23 3:33 PM, e...@mozilla.com wrote: This was in attempt to avoid last minute delays or changes triggered by people saying the community was not involved earlier. Could you elaborate on this point? - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-04-21 6:43 AM, skuldw...@gmail.com wrote: I know, not that well explained and over simplified. But the concept is hopefully clear, but in case it's not... For what it's worth, a lot of really smart people have been thinking about this problem for a while and there aren't a lot of easy

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-04-17 12:20 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:13 PM, andrewneme...@gmail.com wrote: As a non-tech person, the only thing I know is https means my browser runs even slower on DSL. This has already been addressed earlier in the thread. HTTPS has negligible

Re: Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP

On 2015-04-15 10:03 AM, commodorej...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 6:56:48 AM UTC-7, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: If you're addicted to cleartrext, the future is going to be hard for you... Only because people like you insist on trying to push it across-the-board, rather

Re: Can we make try builds default to a different profile than Nightly/Aurora/Beta/Release builds?

On 2015-04-08 3:08 PM, Seth Fowler wrote: Can we do this? Any better ideas? I filed 1013371 a while back asking for something not quite identical that might meet your needs. Automatically create clean profiles when -P specifies nonexistent profile. - mhoye

Re: 32-bit Windows builds will fail.

On 2015-02-27 8:46 AM, Ben Hearsum wrote: On 2015-02-26 05:57 PM, Mike Hoye wrote: Instead, I propose that we stand up a variety of old, slow, minimum-spec approved development boxes, build on them daily. If forward progress means we need to abandon a category of developers' machines, I ask

32-bit Windows builds will fail.

As far as I can tell from Bug 1110236 and my own testing, it's no longer possible to build Firefox on 32-bit Windows systems. Recent changes to how we use our linker will reliably cause the error described in the bug. I've filed bug 1137346 to that effect; I don't see an answer, and I

Re: Detecting 32 or 64-bit Firefox build from privileged JS

Flag the easy ones as [good first bug]s and cc me, please. These are the little fish we throw back in the water to reel in the big fish. - mhoye On 2015-02-24 7:28 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: It might be useful to add this to OS.Constants.Sys, which is available to all threads.

Re: PSA: Support for building with Windows SDK 8.1 removed from Gecko 37

On 2015-01-09 8:59 AM, Neil wrote: 2GB builds, although I expect it's on the slow side. 1GB isn't enough though, unless you enable shared gkmedias and js (and shared js builds are broken anyway because we don't link to js when we should). 1GB is the bare minimum require to run VS2013

Re: PSA: Support for building with Windows SDK 8.1 removed from Gecko 37

On 2015-01-08 12:15 AM, Botond Ballo wrote: ​Building Firefox​*for* Windows XP (and running it on Windows XP) is unaffected. Building Firefox*on* Windows XP, however, is - I believe - no longer supported, and in fact hasn't been since we bumped the minimum required MSVC version to 2012, since

Re: PSA: Support for building with Visual C++ 2012 removed from Gecko 37

On 2015-01-06 4:33 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: I updated https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_CXX_in_Mozilla_code accordingly. I've updated our Windows Build Prerequisites docs to reflect this change, and I'm passing this information on to our community channels.

Effective Community Building Practices - Portland, Friday morning.

Last reminder, everyone: 9:00 to 11:00 on the Friday morning in the Marriott Waterfront Hotel's Oregon ballroom, I'll be hosting an Engineering-focused community-building session - Effective Community Building Practices. The goals are going to be: - Relating known best-practices: what

Re: power use on Yosemite

On 2014-11-03 12:32 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: On 02/11/14 18:13, Mike Hoye wrote: We found that blocking on a slow connection used consistently more power than idle. This could be solely due to network traffic, but network traffic was very periodic (1 packet in and 1 packet out per second

Re: power use on Yosemite

On 2014-11-01 3:47 PM, Andreas Gal wrote: Ideas welcome. Before he left, Taras was discussing power consumption analysis with Abram Hindle, a researcher at the university of Alberta. Some of Hindle's work is here: http://softwareprocess.es/static/GreenMining.html Specifically this paper:

Re: Switching to Visual Studio 2013

On 2014-10-20 11:44 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Hi, Can you or someone else in the know update https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites and friends, Working on it. - mhoye ___ dev-platform

Re: Switching to Visual Studio 2013

On 2014-10-20 11:56 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2014-10-20 11:44 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: Hi, Can you or someone else in the know update https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites and friends, or (if you don't like wiki software,

Re: The worst piece of Mozilla code

On 2014-10-16 8:32 AM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: Hi, I was wondering what people think is the worst piece of code in the entire Mozilla codebase. I'll leave the exact meanings of worst and piece of code unspecified... Currently or ever? I mean, if you find somebody in their office today

Re: Breakdown of Firefox full installer

On 2014-10-14 10:14 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2014-10-14, 10:09 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: I'm not saying we shouldn't strive for better, but I'm questioning the fact that download size would be affecting our growth. If the download size of our competitors is not affecting theirs, why would it

Re: Documenting uses of Github at Mozilla

On 2014-10-06 12:31 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Since all these repo links are likely to become unfindable in email... Contributions welcome: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Github Ok, I've added all the URLS mentioned here to the bottom of the list. - mhoye

Re: Documenting uses of Github at Mozilla

On 2014-10-01 12:16 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2014-10-01, 11:59 AM, Ralph Giles wrote: On 2014-10-01 7:17 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: Having to scramble to recover from data loss - particularly around source or bug tracking - is a miserable experience we should try to avoid. Perhaps http

Re: Documenting uses of Github at Mozilla

On 2014-09-30 7:38 PM, Karl Dubost wrote: Basically embrace the unknown. Accept it. And create meaningful links in between projects when these links matter for people to follow a hypertext paper trail. I know I spend a lot of time beating this drum and you're all tired of hearing it, but I

Re: Documenting uses of Github at Mozilla

On 2014-10-01 12:16 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2014-10-01, 11:59 AM, Ralph Giles wrote: On 2014-10-01 7:17 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: Having to scramble to recover from data loss - particularly around source or bug tracking - is a miserable experience we should try to avoid. Perhaps http

Re: easiest way to contribute .

On 2014-09-25 10:23 AM, Mike Habicher wrote: Hello! Mozilla has many projects on the go. This site http://whatcanidoformozilla.org/ might help you find something you're interested in. In addition, if you're interested in working on the Firefox codebase, please take a look Bugs Ahoy:

Re: Continued support for ESR

On 2014-09-10 10:32 PM, Philip Chee wrote: “New personal versions of Firefox are released roughly every six weeks,” writes Oracle's Steven Chan. “It is impractical for us to certify these new personal versions of Firefox with the Oracle E-Business Suite because a given Firefox release is

Re: Switching to Visual Studio 2013

On 2014-08-27 10:22 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: One issue related to the discussion in bug 914596 is that it's harder to find the non-latest-version of the Express version. That is, if you install Express now, you get SP3. It's probably possible to get SP2 anyhow, but I couldn't easily find

Mentors now have their own Bugzilla field.

Hi, everyone - We've just wrapped up big migration of the mentored bug information in Bugzilla from [mentor=person] in the whiteboard to bug mentors being their own field. Most of that change was done automatically and silently, for which we can thank glob, dkl and their usual

Re: I've seen the mozilla git mirror in github, I want all the tags storage in github. can that to be possible?

On 2014-06-16, 10:39 PM, luoyongg...@gmail.com wrote: I am saying about https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev After that, I am also looking for comn-central git mirror. This may be what you are looking for: https://github.com/mozilla/releases-comm-central I don't know if it is considered

Re: B2G, email, and SSL/TLS certificate exceptions for invalid certificates

On 2014-05-28, 9:07 PM, Joshua Cranmer  wrote: Two more possible rationales: 1. The administrator is unwilling to pay for an SSL certificate and unaware of low-cost or free SSL certificate providers. 2. The administrator has philosophical beliefs about CAs, or the CA trust model in general,

Re: Policing dead/zombie code in m-c

On 2014-04-25, 11:12 AM, Trevor Saunders wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:42:43AM -0400, Mike Hoye wrote: If we ask a thousand people to run a nightly under a profiler for a few days and aggregated the results, would that be valuable information? If the users are a good distribution and we

Re: OS.File design issue from bug 961080 (making downloads respect umask)

On 2014-04-25, 2:41 PM, Ralph Giles wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-04-25 11:08 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote: Against these (particularly the third) was the claim that this API is only useful to the download manager. Forgive the derail, but why does the download

Re: Oculus VR support somehwat-non-free code in the tree

On 2014-04-15, 12:47 AM, Andreas Gal wrote: Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable using another open (albeit not open enough for MPL) license on trunk while we rewrite the library? Can we compromise on trunk in order to innovate faster and only ship to GA once

Re: Oculus VR support somehwat-non-free code in the tree

On 2014-04-15, 10:25 AM, Mike Hoye wrote: On 2014-04-15, 12:47 AM, Andreas Gal wrote: Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable using another open (albeit not open enough for MPL) license on trunk while we rewrite the library? Can we compromise on trunk in order

Re: Policy for disabling tests which run on TBPL

On 2014-04-07, 11:12 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: It's difficult to say whether bugs we find via tests are more or less important than bugs we find via users. It's entirely possible that lots of the bugs that cause intermittent test failures cause intermittent weird behavior for our users, we

Re: Firefox build (Nightly) thread with root permission

On 2014-04-02, 1:46 AM, Paul wrote: I strongly suspect this happens due to the permission issue while Nightly does not allow me to gain root privileges. However, this is necessary for me to complete my experiment. How can I obtain a decent permission while I do this? strace -f should see

Re: Overview of how web-exposed objects are implemented

On 2014-03-29, 1:32 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: Someone asked me today whether we have any sort of high-level overview of how web-exposed objects are implemented. I didn't know of any, so I put together a start at https://ask.mozilla.org/question/390/how-is-the-web-exposed-dom-implemented/.

Re: Why are images that are uploaded in Pinterest and Instagram modified in terms of size and pixel colors?

On 2014-02-28, 11:53 AM, Usman Ehtesham wrote: When images are uploaded in Pinterest and Instagram, the size of the images get modified and so do the colors (within a ranges of +/- 10 pixels). Are images modified to align the images as a grid as seen in Pinterest and Instagram? If yes, how do

Re: Always brace your ifs

On 2/22/2014, 1:04 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: goto ftw; I have to admit, I was very surprised to learn that: - Using both -Wall and -Wextra doesn't get you -Wunreachable-code. - The Clang manual lists documenting any of that that as a todo. - mhoye

Re: We should drop MathML

On 2/11/2014, 10:19 AM, Dāvis Mosāns wrote: What? Drop MathML? While you're not doing much to endear anyone to your position here, my understanding is that we're not dropping MathML and we'll still take patches from people who'd like to improve it. - mhoye

Re: Mozilla Location Services - Heads up

On 2/3/2014, 10:08 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Yes. You can read more about the API at: We really need an ARG and some badges for this, to give people some sort of incentive to wander all over the place. - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing list

Re: Bug 641509

On 1/7/2014, 11:40 AM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Oh now I see, 'the *confusion* of the OMG YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED BY A VIRUS messages were causing', that's the point! LOL Yeah, I think we're done here. - mhoye ___ dev-platform mailing

Re: A proposal to reduce the number of styles in Mozilla code

On 1/6/2014, 8:05 PM, Karl Tomlinson wrote: The bug is hidden almost as well by conversion of only indentation. if (condition1) if (condition2) foo(); else bar(); Sure, you could argue that style conversion makes the actual behaviour clearer, but you'd have to know

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