Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Miloš Šilhánek]

Hi, 

I watched this page but our book http://wiki.netbeans.org/
BookNBPlatformCookbook has not been linked in NB sources. 
I do not understand why it was ignored. But it is visited still even it is
so old. 

MIlos

 -- Původní e-mail --
Od: John Kostaras 
Komu: juneau...@gmail.com
Datum: 9. 8. 2018 22:45:09
Předmět: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
"This is why voting about this is the first thing we should do. Once all 
interested parties register with the google group (or with any other means)
we could start voting.

Next would be that we have enough authors for the 15 chapters of the book 
and then that each author selects a chapter to write. But this will come 
later.

Pending task from me to provide a list of all netbeans books. Most of them
can be found here <https://netbeans.org/kb/articles/books.html#about>.

Regards,

John.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 22:03, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've spoken with Jonathan from Apress, and he said that if we wanted to 
> open source the book, then Apress may not be the correct choice. They no
> longer work on open sourcing their books, but he said he could understand
> why that may be an option that is on the table. He would likely be
> interested in moving forward with an Apache NetBeans book project that is
> written by many authors, and we are supposed to keep him posted with our
> decision.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:42 AM, constantin drabo 
> wrote:
>
> Hello John ,
> Me too. I did not find it.
> Constantin
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie 
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : Delfi Ramirez 
> Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2018 04:27
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc : John Kostaras
> Objet : RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Hi John, Hi all:
>
> Same issue, uh, no group found. At G
>
> uh
>
>
>
> Delfi Ramirez
>
> Segonquart Studio
>
> https://segonquart.net
>
> From: Josh Juneau
> Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: John Kostaras
> Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Hi John,
>
> Hope you are well. I tried to search for the google group <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some

> reason. Can you please send an invite?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo  >
> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> I vote for :
>
>
> * google group mailing list : <
>
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>
> * dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>
> * and zoom for the realtime chat
>
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie 
>
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
>
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
>
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
>
> 
>
> De : John Kostaras 
>
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
>
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
>
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>
> - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the 
>
> following:
>
> - slack channel
>
> - google group mailing list
>
> 
>
> - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>
> - other (please advise)
>
> - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write 
>
> - an Apress book
>
> - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>
> what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>
> - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
>
> wiki)
>
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
>
> John.
>
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote: 
>
>
> Hi John,
>
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book. I agree with 
>
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapter

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[John Kostaras]

This is why voting about this is the first thing we should do. Once all
interested parties register with the google group (or with any other means)
we could start voting.

Next would be that we have enough authors for the 15 chapters of the book
and then that each author selects a chapter to write. But this will come
later.

Pending task from me to provide a list of all netbeans books. Most of them
can be found here <https://netbeans.org/kb/articles/books.html#about>.

Regards,

John.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 22:03, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've spoken with Jonathan from Apress, and he said that if we wanted to
> open source the book, then Apress may not be the correct choice.  They no
> longer work on open sourcing their books, but he said he could understand
> why that may be an option that is on the table.  He would likely be
> interested in moving forward with an Apache NetBeans book project that is
> written by many authors, and we are supposed to keep him posted with our
> decision.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:42 AM, constantin drabo 
> wrote:
>
> Hello John ,
> Me too. I did not find it.
> Constantin
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : Delfi Ramirez 
> Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2018 04:27
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc : John Kostaras
> Objet : RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Hi John, Hi all:
>
> Same issue, uh, no group found. At G
>
> uh
>
>
>
> Delfi Ramirez
>
> Segonquart Studio
>
> https://segonquart.net
>
> From: Josh Juneau
> Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: John Kostaras
> Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Hi John,
>
> Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
> reason.  Can you please send an invite?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo  >
> wrote:
>
> Hello  John,
>
> I vote for :
>
>
>  *google group mailing list : <
>
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>
>  *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>
>  *and zoom for the realtime chat
>
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
>
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
>
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
>
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
>
> 
>
> De : John Kostaras 
>
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
>
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
>
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>
>   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>
>   following:
>
>  - slack channel
>
>  - google group mailing list
>
>  
>
>  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>
>  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>
>  - other (please advise)
>
>   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>
>  - an Apress book
>
>  - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>
>  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>
>  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
>
> wiki)
>
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
>
> John.
>
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
>
> Hi John,
>
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
>
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
>
> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
>
> available
>
> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
>
> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
>
> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that woul

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Josh Juneau]

Hello Everyone,

I've spoken with Jonathan from Apress, and he said that if we wanted to open 
source the book, then Apress may not be the correct choice.  They no longer 
work on open sourcing their books, but he said he could understand why that may 
be an option that is on the table.  He would likely be interested in moving 
forward with an Apache NetBeans book project that is written by many authors, 
and we are supposed to keep him posted with our decision.

Thanks

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866

> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:42 AM, constantin drabo  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello John ,
> Me too. I did not find it.
> Constantin
> 
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie 
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : Delfi Ramirez 
> Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2018 04:27
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc : John Kostaras
> Objet : RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> 
> Hi John, Hi all:
> 
> Same issue, uh, no group found. At G
> 
> uh
> 
> 
> 
> Delfi Ramirez
> 
> Segonquart Studio
> 
> https://segonquart.net
> 
> From: Josh Juneau
> Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: John Kostaras
> Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
> reason.  Can you please send an invite?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello  John,
>> I vote for :
>> 
>>  *google group mailing list : <
>> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>>  *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>>  *and zoom for the realtime chat
>> 
>> Constantin Drabo
>> 
>> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
>> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
>> - Constantin????E. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
>> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
>> 
>> De : John Kostaras 
>> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
>> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>> 
>> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
>> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>> 
>> I guess first we need to:
>> 
>>   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>>   following:
>>  - slack channel
>>  - google group mailing list
>>  
>>  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>>  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>>  - other (please advise)
>>   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>>  - an Apress book
>>  - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>>  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>>  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
>> wiki)
>> 
>> Looking forward your feedback.
>> 
>> John.
>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
>>> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
>>> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
>> available
>>> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
>>> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
>>> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
>>> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
>>> 
>>> To answer your questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
>>> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
>>> added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
>>> 
>>> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
>>> great idea.
>>> 
>>> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they

RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[constantin drabo]

Hello John ,
Me too. I did not find it.
Constantin

?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re 
dans un berceau. ??
- ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : Delfi Ramirez 
Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2018 04:27
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc : John Kostaras
Objet : RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hi John, Hi all:

Same issue, uh, no group found. At G

uh



Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Josh Juneau
Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc: John Kostaras
Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hi John,

Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
reason.  Can you please send an invite?

Thanks

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo 
wrote:

> Hello  John,
> I vote for :
>
>   *google group mailing list : <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>   *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   *and zoom for the realtime chat
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : John Kostaras 
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can gr

RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Hi John, Hi all:

Same issue, uh, no group found. At G

uh



Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: Josh Juneau
Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc: John Kostaras
Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hi John,

Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
reason.  Can you please send an invite?

Thanks

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo 
wrote:

> Hello  John,
> I vote for :
>
>   *google group mailing list : <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>   *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   *and zoom for the realtime chat
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : John Kostaras 
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> > through git collab
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > >
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > >
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > >
> > > From: John Kostaras
> > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Josh Juneau]

Hi John,

Hope you are well.  I tried to search for the google group <
netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some
reason.  Can you please send an invite?

Thanks

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo 
wrote:

> Hello  John,
> I vote for :
>
>   *google group mailing list : <
> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com>
>   *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
> NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   *and zoom for the realtime chat
>
> Constantin Drabo
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : John Kostaras 
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
>
> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> > through git collab
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > >
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > >
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > >
> > > From: John Kostaras
> > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> > >
> > > Hallo again,
> > >
> > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > > needed in a better way.
> > >
> > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to co

RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[constantin drabo]

Hello  John,
I vote for :

  *google group mailing list : 
  *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache 
NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  *and zoom for the realtime chat

Constantin Drabo

?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re 
dans un berceau. ??
- ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : John Kostaras 
Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Thanks for your reply Josh.

I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
the creator of this workspace could do it.

I guess first we need to:

   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
   following:
  - slack channel
  - google group mailing list
  
  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  - other (please advise)
   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
  - an Apress book
  - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide
  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another wiki)

Looking forward your feedback.

John.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available
> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
>
> To answer your questions:
>
> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
>
> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> great idea.
>
> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts)
> that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
>
> If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
>
> Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> >
> > Please consider
> >
> > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> support, jshell, etc."
> >
> > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to
> the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> through git collab
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: John Kostaras
> > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> >
> > Hallo again,
> >
> > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > needed in a better way.
> >
> > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> in
> > my opinion.
> >
> >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> order
> >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> authors
> >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> >  2. I have also created a google group (
> >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
> >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > interested in
> >  contributing).
> >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > we can keep
> >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> >  don

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Josh Juneau]

Hi John,

I am okay with continuing to exchange ideas via email using the [Apache
NetBeans 9 Apress Book] header.  I also am in favor of a dedicated Slack
channel if one is created.

I also agree that the vote for where the book is to be published should
occur in a new thread using the header, or in a Slack channel.

Thanks John, I appreciate you taking a lead role in this effort.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:29 AM John Kostaras  wrote:

> Thanks for your reply Josh.
>
> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
> the creator of this workspace could do it.
>
> I guess first we need to:
>
>- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
>following:
>   - slack channel
>   - google group mailing list
>   
>   - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
>   NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
>   - other (please advise)
>- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
>   - an Apress book
>   - a LeanPub  book (but then we need to decide
>   what to do with the money if the book is not free)
>   - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another
> wiki)
>
> Looking forward your feedback.
>
> John.
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are
> available
> > now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> > contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> > added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
> >
> > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> > great idea.
> >
> > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide
> accounts)
> > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
> >
> > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> > Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
> >
> > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
> >
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> > >
> > > Please consider
> > >
> > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> > support, jshell, etc."
> > >
> > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due
> to
> > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> > through git collab
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Delfi Ramirez
> > >
> > > Segonquart Studio
> > >
> > > https://segonquart.net
> > >
> > > From: John Kostaras
> > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> > >
> > > Hallo again,
> > >
> > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > > needed in a better way.
> > >
> > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> > in
> > > my opinion.
> > >
> > >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> > >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> > order
> > >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> > authors
> > >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> > >  2. I have also created a google group (
> > >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join
> (I
> > >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > > interested in
> > >  contributing).
> > >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> > >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > > we can keep
> > >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> > >  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> > > wiki that
> > >  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand
> > mentions that
> > >  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
> > >   2. *Book structure*
> > >  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
> > >  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
> > >  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
> >

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[John Kostaras]

Thanks for your reply Josh.

I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or
the creator of this workspace could do it.

I guess first we need to:

   - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the
   following:
  - slack channel
  - google group mailing list
  
  - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache
  NetBeans 9 Apress Book]
  - other (please advise)
   - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write
  - an Apress book
  - a LeanPub  book (but then we need to decide
  what to do with the money if the book is not free)
  - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another wiki)

Looking forward your feedback.

John.
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with
> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I
> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available
> now to get an idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book
> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of
> contents from some of the other available books.  I believe that would
> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters.
>
> To answer your questions:
>
> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think
> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel
> added into the existing NetBeans slack group.
>
> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a
> great idea.
>
> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts)
> that we authors can use for collaboration efforts.
>
> If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan
> Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide
> your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.
>
> Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> >
> > Please consider
> >
> > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw
> support, jshell, etc."
> >
> > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to
> the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or
> through git collab
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: John Kostaras
> > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> >
> > Hallo again,
> >
> > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> > needed in a better way.
> >
> > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider
> in
> > my opinion.
> >
> >   1. *How we can cooperate.*
> >  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in
> order
> >  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of
> authors
> >  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
> >  2. I have also created a google group (
> >  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
> >  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> > interested in
> >  contributing).
> >  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
> >  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> > we can keep
> >  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
> >  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> > wiki that
> >  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand
> mentions that
> >  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
> >   2. *Book structure*
> >  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
> >  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
> >  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
> >  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> >  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> >  Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
> >  2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
> >  be and who writes what.
> >  1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
> > 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
> >   https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
> > - new language support
> > - some available language additions
> > - useful available external plugins
> > 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
> > Cookbook  w

Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Josh Juneau]

Hi John,

Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book.  I agree with the 
three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters.  I like your 
idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available now to get an 
idea of coverage.  Those interested in working on the book should send ideas on 
proposed chapters after looking at the table of contents from some of the other 
available books.  I believe that would ensure we have a solid lineup of 
chapters.

To answer your questions:

1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think that 
we should start a NetBeans book Slack group.  Perhaps as a channel added into 
the existing NetBeans slack group.

2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book!  I think this is a great 
idea.

3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts) that 
we authors can use for collaboration efforts.  

If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan 
Gennick...at least in the beginning.  I'll reach out to him and provide your 
contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding.

Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along!

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866

> On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme
> 
> Please consider
> 
> "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, 
> jshell, etc."
> 
> To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to the 
> fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or through 
> git collab
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> Delfi Ramirez
> 
> Segonquart Studio
> 
> https://segonquart.net
> 
> From: John Kostaras
> Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
> 
> Hallo again,
> 
> and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
> needed in a better way.
> 
> In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider in
> my opinion.
> 
>   1. *How we can cooperate.*
>  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in order
>  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of authors
>  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
>  2. I have also created a google group (
>  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
>  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
> interested in
>  contributing).
>  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
>  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
> we can keep
>  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
>  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
> wiki that
>  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand mentions that
>  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
>   2. *Book structure*
>  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
>  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
>  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
>  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
>  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
>  Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
>  2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
>  be and who writes what.
>  1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
> 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
>   https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
> - new language support
> - some available language additions
> - useful available external plugins
> 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
> Cookbook  which
> we could use as a base for some chapters rewriting them to NB
> 9 (again for
> Part 2)
> 4. I 'll do a search and provide a list of all available NetBeans
> books published so far, so that we could have an idea what
> has been out
> there, and maybe give more ideas for chapters.
> 
> Here is a very draft proposal of the various chapters, but we could discuss
> of course:
> 
> *Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans*
> Chapter 1: What is NetBeans. A short history of NetBeans. Apache NetBeans.
> Distinction of NetBeans platform and NetBeans IDE. New features support in
> version 9. How do download and install Apache NetBeans 9
> Chapter 2: Getting Started with NetBeans. Layout, editing files and
> projects, tips and tricks
> Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, jshell etc.
> Chapter 4: Running, debugging, profiling applications
> Chapter 5: Developing desktop applications (Swing and JavaFX)
> 
> *Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans*
> Chapter 6: Introduction to NetBeans 

RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

[Delfi Ramirez]

Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme

Please consider

"* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, 
jshell, etc."

To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to the 
fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or through 
git collab

cheers


Delfi Ramirez

Segonquart Studio

https://segonquart.net

From: John Kostaras
Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book

Hallo again,

and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
needed in a better way.

In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider in
my opinion.

   1. *How we can cooperate.*
  1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in order
  to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of authors
  of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
  2. I have also created a google group (
  netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I
  'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
interested in
  contributing).
  3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
  wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
we can keep
  our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
  don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
wiki that
  can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand mentions that
  Any PoC in Apress Josh?
   2. *Book structure*
  1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
  proposed to split it into three parts, each of
  which could be split into about 5 chapters:
  Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
  Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
  Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
  2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
  be and who writes what.
  1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
   https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
 - new language support
 - some available language additions
 - useful available external plugins
 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
 Cookbook  which
 we could use as a base for some chapters rewriting them to NB
9 (again for
 Part 2)
 4. I 'll do a search and provide a list of all available NetBeans
 books published so far, so that we could have an idea what
has been out
 there, and maybe give more ideas for chapters.

Here is a very draft proposal of the various chapters, but we could discuss
of course:

*Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 1: What is NetBeans. A short history of NetBeans. Apache NetBeans.
Distinction of NetBeans platform and NetBeans IDE. New features support in
version 9. How do download and install Apache NetBeans 9
Chapter 2: Getting Started with NetBeans. Layout, editing files and
projects, tips and tricks
Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, jshell etc.
Chapter 4: Running, debugging, profiling applications
Chapter 5: Developing desktop applications (Swing and JavaFX)

*Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 6: Introduction to NetBeans RCP. Core, UI
Chapter 7: Module System, File System, Lookup
Chapter 8: Window system, Actions, Nodes and Explorers, HTML/UI
Chapter 9: Extras, Visual Library, Dialogs, etc.
Chapter 10: Writing a NetBeans plugin

*Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans* *(a lot of material can be found
in our cwiki )*
Chapter 11: Overview of how NetBeans 9 is hosted in Apache, infrastructure:
Apache JIRA, Confluence, wiki etc.
Chapter 12: Apache mailing list, Apache NetBeans web page
Chapter 13: NetCAT, synergy
Chapter 14: How to download and build Apache NetBeans 9 from sources;
Chapter 15: How to contribute (fixing bugs, articles, web site, NETCAT,
writing plugins); what needs to be done (e.g. code donations etc.)

I look forward your feedback.

Regards,

John.


On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 14:38, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Broadly, I think such a book should be split into three parts, each of
> which could be split into about 5 chapters:
>
> Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
>
> Gj
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Delfi Ramirez  wrote:
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Agreed there is the  need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
> >
> > Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written,  of a
> > single translator for the whole community content.
> >
> > Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we
> > may able to reach and target new markets and new loyal