Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ah. Will do. > On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > Am 18.10.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >> I've updated the Bugz entry w/ the background. > > I was thinking of: >

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-18 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 18.10.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > I've updated the Bugz entry w/ the background. I was thinking of: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.4/unxmacos/ Matthias > >> On Oct 18, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Matthias Seidel >>

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
I've updated the Bugz entry w/ the background. > On Oct 18, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > Am 17.10.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Peter kovacs: >> Cool! >> >> Can you write shortly which files you have changed (or the svn revision >> number)? I would like

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-18 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 17.10.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Peter kovacs: > Cool! > > Can you write shortly which files you have changed (or the svn revision > number)? I would like to understand and learn. Thanks! Only the build script was changed, no files in source... @Jim: Could you update the build script/log in our

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Marcus
Am 17.10.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Jim Jagielski: Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install that works on 10.12 and 10.13 ! absolutely great! My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus the

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
ALL DONE! Let's follow-up on the VOTE thread. > On Oct 17, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly > *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install > that works on 10.12 and 10.13 ! > > My

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly > *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install > that works on 10.12 and 10.13 ! > > My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Peter kovacs
Cool! Can you write shortly which files you have changed (or the svn revision number)? I would like to understand and learn. Thanks! All the best Peter Am 17. Oktober 2017 15:27:05 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski : >Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install that works on 10.12 and 10.13 ! My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus the hashes + sigs, of course)... Will let everyone know when done!

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
If it is, in fact, a "build" issue, related to library linking, then we can simply rebuild macOS and keep RC5. Trying a different expat would require RC6, which I am loath to do (if we can avoid it :) ). > On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > Good catch! > >

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Good catch! Would it make sense to test with expat-2.2.4? On 10/17/2017 3:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Good news... I think. For some reason, it does look like the expat patch is the root cause, but for the life of me I can't grok why. With the RC4 version of expat-2.2.3.patch, RC5 works on

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
Good news... I think. For some reason, it does look like the expat patch is the root cause, but for the life of me I can't grok why. With the RC4 version of expat-2.2.3.patch, RC5 works on High Sierra no prob. I am looking to see if its due to some weird linking issue that could be resolved via

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Peter kovacs
+1 :) Am 17. Oktober 2017 00:48:46 MESZ schrieb Andrea Pescetti : >On 16/10/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: >> with RC5 I see: >>> (1) I get the little general error dialog. > >Can we get an issue in Bugzilla please, so that we can try and make it >reproducible? > >What I understood

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
Latest update: A from-scratch rebuild still results in the same macOS issue. I am now rebuilding w/ the expat change reverted, which is the only major change between RC4 and RC5, to see if that's the problem. - To unsubscribe,

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-16, 3:37 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: OK... I found something weird. If I open a .odp file, no issues. If I open a .odt file, I get the General Error popup. That is the error I got. I seldom use other parts of AOO and hadn't tested them. This is on 10.13/High Sierra... I don't have

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 16/10/2017 Dave Fisher wrote: with RC5 I see: (1) I get the little general error dialog. Can we get an issue in Bugzilla please, so that we can try and make it reproducible? What I understood so far is: 1. For some reason this (in RC5) only affects Mac OS X 2. It is NOT specific to

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Matthias Seidel
I don't know how it is related, but we have exactly the same weird behavior on Linux64 with the nightly buildbot builds from trunk (4.2.0): https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315 Am 16.10.2017 um 23:37 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > OK... I found something weird. > > If I open a .odp file,

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
OK... I found something weird. If I open a .odp file, no issues. If I open a .odt file, I get the General Error popup. If I open a .ods file, I get "Not all attributes could be read" warning This is on 10.13/High Sierra... I don't have RC4 to try.

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Did you open an existing file? > On Oct 16, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > FWIW, I just installed 10.13 / High Sierra on a test machine. AOO 4.1.4-RC5 > opened up just fine. Because it was a virgin install, I had to go thru the > "setup" phase. After that

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
FWIW, I just installed 10.13 / High Sierra on a test machine. AOO 4.1.4-RC5 opened up just fine. Because it was a virgin install, I had to go thru the "setup" phase. After that closed-and-opened-and-closed multiple times with no errors.

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'm also spinning up a 10.13/High Sierra VM for testing... > On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Am 16.10.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >> Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not >> the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > The next bump for AOO to 4.2.0 also includes a number of > other "gotchas" related to macOS. For example, QtKit in 10.12 > is deprecated and removed, meaning that we cannot build the > avmedia component using any SDK

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Marcus
Am 16.10.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Jim Jagielski: Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS. +1 For the moment the easiest and fastest way. Marcus On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
The next bump for AOO to 4.2.0 also includes a number of other "gotchas" related to macOS. For example, QtKit in 10.12 is deprecated and removed, meaning that we cannot build the avmedia component using any SDK older than 10.12. plus, we cannot build with anything older than a 10.9 SDK due to C++

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS. > On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5. > > Would it make sense to do a rebuild

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5. Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries to test? > On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the > source

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I’m not ready to build at the moment. Some observations about macOS - The way our Mac versions work on the latest macOS releases is problematic in several ways. This issue adds one more tricky point. (1) We do not sign with an Apple Developer account. (2) Security Preferences need to be

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan
As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or a build process change. On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4. > > With RC4 - Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see: > > (1) I get the little general error dialog. > (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Jim, I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4. With RC4 - (1) I get the little general error dialog. (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal. (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created with a length of 129 David

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread mabdul
>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes). OO should then open and run >>> and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or >>> what has happened. These will be helpful to developers debugging. >> >> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications: /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice should do it. > On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600 > Larry Gusaas wrote: > >> On 2017-10-15,

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote > > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600 > > Larry Gusaas wrote: > > > >> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote: > >> > >>> Larry > >>> >

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote: Larry Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages? Rory I don't know terminal very well and do

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600 > > Larry Gusaas wrote: > > > >> On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote > >> > >>> Did this occur

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs? No. Larry Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs? No. Larry Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote > > > Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs? > > No. Larry Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages? Rory > > >> On Oct 14, 2017, at

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs? No. On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X on red circle, General Error). When I click

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Jim Jagielski
Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs? > On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X > on red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the document > opens.

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2017-10-15, 2:20 AM FR web forum wrote: Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X on red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the document opens. Happens every time I open a document or a new document. Does not occur with AOO 4.1.3.

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread FR web forum
>Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X >on red circle, >General Error). When I click on the OK button the document opens. Happens >every time I open a >document or a new document. Does not occur with AOO 4.1.3. >MacBook Pro 13" late 2013 >macOS 10.13