subject:"Re\: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message"

ALL DONE!

Let's follow-up on the VOTE thread.

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly
> *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install
> that works on 10.12 and 10.13 !
> 
> My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus
> the hashes + sigs, of course)...
> 
> Will let everyone know when done!
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Kay Schenk

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly
> *linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install
> that works on 10.12 and 10.13 !
>
> My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus
> the hashes + sigs, of course)...
>
> Will let everyone know when done!
>

Thank you so much for your perseverance!




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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Peter kovacs

Cool!

Can you write shortly which files you have changed (or the svn revision 
number)? I would like to understand and learn. Thanks!

All the best Peter 

Am 17. Oktober 2017 15:27:05 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski :
>Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly
>*linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install
>that works on 10.12 and 10.13 !
>
>My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus
>the hashes + sigs, of course)...
>
>Will let everyone know when done!
>
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Success! By changing the way AOO is built (and more importantly
*linked*), I've been able to build a AOO-4.1.4-RC5 macOS install
that works on 10.12 and 10.13 !

My plan is to replace the dmgs with the updated ones (plus
the hashes + sigs, of course)...

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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

If it is, in fact, a "build" issue, related to library linking,
then we can simply rebuild macOS and keep RC5. Trying
a different expat would require RC6, which I am loath
to do (if we can avoid it :) ).

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> Good catch!
> 
> Would it make sense to test with expat-2.2.4?
> 
> On 10/17/2017 3:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Good news... I think.
>> For some reason, it does look like the expat patch is
>> the root cause, but for the life of me I can't grok
>> why. With the RC4 version of expat-2.2.3.patch, RC5
>> works on High Sierra no prob.
>> I am looking to see if its due to some weird linking
>> issue that could be resolved via some build option.
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Latest update: A from-scratch rebuild still results in the same macOS 
>>> issue. I am
>>> now rebuilding w/ the expat change reverted, which is the only major change 
>>> between
>>> RC4 and RC5, to see if that's the problem.
>>> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan


Good catch!

Would it make sense to test with expat-2.2.4?

On 10/17/2017 3:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Good news... I think.

For some reason, it does look like the expat patch is
the root cause, but for the life of me I can't grok
why. With the RC4 version of expat-2.2.3.patch, RC5
works on High Sierra no prob.

I am looking to see if its due to some weird linking
issue that could be resolved via some build option.


On Oct 16, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

Latest update: A from-scratch rebuild still results in the same macOS issue. I 
am
now rebuilding w/ the expat change reverted, which is the only major change 
between
RC4 and RC5, to see if that's the problem.


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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Good news... I think.

For some reason, it does look like the expat patch is
the root cause, but for the life of me I can't grok
why. With the RC4 version of expat-2.2.3.patch, RC5
works on High Sierra no prob.

I am looking to see if its due to some weird linking
issue that could be resolved via some build option.

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Latest update: A from-scratch rebuild still results in the same macOS issue. 
> I am
> now rebuilding w/ the expat change reverted, which is the only major change 
> between
> RC4 and RC5, to see if that's the problem.
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-17 Thread Peter kovacs

+1 :)

Am 17. Oktober 2017 00:48:46 MESZ schrieb Andrea Pescetti :
>On 16/10/2017 Dave Fisher wrote:
>> with RC5 I see:
>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>
>Can we get an issue in Bugzilla please, so that we can try and make it 
>reproducible?
>
>What I understood so far is:
>
>1. For some reason this (in RC5) only affects Mac OS X
>
>2. It is NOT specific to High Sierra, since two people reported it in 
>Sierra too.
>
>3. Apparently this didn't happen on a clean profile, but Jim managed to
>
>reproduce it on a clean profile too. But Roberto explicitly reported 
>being able to open all kind of files, so it's unclear how reproducible 
>this is.
>
>I saw Matthias' mail relating this to 
>https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315 later, but I confirm 
>I've never seen the issue while using the various RCs (I never tried 
>with trunk builds). Still, I would advise to create another issue and 
>then conflate the two once we are sure this is the same problem.
>
>Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Latest update: A from-scratch rebuild still results in the same macOS issue. I 
am
now rebuilding w/ the expat change reverted, which is the only major change 
between
RC4 and RC5, to see if that's the problem.


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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Larry Gusaas




On 2017-10-16, 3:37 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:

OK... I found something weird.

If I open a .odp file, no issues.

If I open a .odt file, I get the General Error popup.


That is the error I got. I seldom use other parts of AOO and hadn't tested them.

This is on 10.13/High Sierra... I don't have RC4 to try.


Previous RC worked for me. I'm fairly sure I had RC4, but am not positive. Had no problem with 
previous RCs I had installed.




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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 16/10/2017 Dave Fisher wrote:

with RC5 I see:

(1) I get the little general error dialog.


Can we get an issue in Bugzilla please, so that we can try and make it 
reproducible?


What I understood so far is:

1. For some reason this (in RC5) only affects Mac OS X

2. It is NOT specific to High Sierra, since two people reported it in 
Sierra too.


3. Apparently this didn't happen on a clean profile, but Jim managed to 
reproduce it on a clean profile too. But Roberto explicitly reported 
being able to open all kind of files, so it's unclear how reproducible 
this is.


I saw Matthias' mail relating this to 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315 later, but I confirm 
I've never seen the issue while using the various RCs (I never tried 
with trunk builds). Still, I would advise to create another issue and 
then conflate the two once we are sure this is the same problem.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Matthias Seidel

I don't know how it is related, but we have exactly the same weird
behavior on Linux64 with the nightly buildbot builds from trunk (4.2.0):

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315


Am 16.10.2017 um 23:37 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> OK... I found something weird.
>
> If I open a .odp file, no issues.
>
> If I open a .odt file, I get the General Error popup.
>
> If I open a .ods file, I get "Not all attributes could be read" warning
>
> This is on 10.13/High Sierra... I don't have RC4 to try.
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

OK... I found something weird.

If I open a .odp file, no issues.

If I open a .odt file, I get the General Error popup.

If I open a .ods file, I get "Not all attributes could be read" warning

This is on 10.13/High Sierra... I don't have RC4 to try.

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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Did you open an existing file?

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I just installed 10.13 / High Sierra on a test machine. AOO 4.1.4-RC5
> opened up just fine. Because it was a virgin install, I had to go thru the
> "setup" phase. After that closed-and-opened-and-closed multiple
> times with no errors.
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

FWIW, I just installed 10.13 / High Sierra on a test machine. AOO 4.1.4-RC5
opened up just fine. Because it was a virgin install, I had to go thru the
"setup" phase. After that closed-and-opened-and-closed multiple
times with no errors.



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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

I'm also spinning up a 10.13/High Sierra VM for testing...

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 16.10.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not
>> the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS.
> 
> +1
> 
> For the moment the easiest and fastest way.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.
>>> 
>>> Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
>>> to test?
>>> 
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
 
 As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
 source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the 
 other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code 
 change or a build process change.
 
 
 
 On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>> 
>> With RC4 -
> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>> 
>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been 
>> created with a length of 129
>> 
>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>> ;
>> 
>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>> 
>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>> 
>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is 
>> displayed.
>> 
>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and 
>> jars do differ.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>>> 
>>>   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>>> 
>>> should do it.
>>> 
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell > wrote:
 
 On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
 Larry Gusaas > 
 wrote:
 
> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
> 
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>> Larry Gusaas > > wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> 
 Larry
 
 Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
 
 Rory
>>>   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
>>> can follow instruction
>>>   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>> 
>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, 
>> based on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the 
>> current Mac operating system is a form of linux.
> 
> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to 
> Linux
> 
>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>> debugging.
> 
> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
> and try to get more
> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to 
> macOS High Sierra, which i
> upgraded this Mac to recently.
 
 I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
 list member can assist.
 
 Rory
 
> 
>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>  
>> 
> 
> Thanks
> Larry
> 
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message


> On Oct 16, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> The next bump for AOO to 4.2.0 also includes a number of
> other "gotchas" related to macOS. For example, QtKit in 10.12
> is deprecated and removed, meaning that we cannot build the
> avmedia component using any SDK older than 10.12. plus, we
> cannot build with anything older than a 10.9 SDK due to
> C++ compatibility changes.
> 
> Basically, the macOS port is gonna require a bit of
> TLC.

I am willing to put some time into making the process smooth.

> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I’m not ready to build at the moment.
>> 
>> Some observations about macOS - The way our Mac versions work on the latest 
>> macOS releases is problematic in several ways. This issue adds one more 
>> tricky point.
>> 
>> (1) We do not sign with an Apple Developer account.
>> (2) Security Preferences need to be adjusted to open OpenOffice.
>> (3) Because of (1) and (2) you have to use Control-click to open OpenOffice.
>> (4) If you have Microsoft Word installed then it wants to open ODT files if 
>> you double-click on them.
> 
> This can easily be changed w/ a Get Info on a ODT file and
> then choosing AOO to open those file types.

Yes and change all seems to work.

> 
>> (5) To install from the DMG drag and drop no longer works. You have to Copy 
>> and Paste to the Applications folder.
> 
> Hmmm. I can't recreate that. Is this High Sierra?

Sierra. Pressing on the OpenOffice icon shows a pop-up.

Regards,
Dave

> 
>> 
>> One goal for 4.2 should be to fix all of these issues.
>> 
>> The trouble is somewhere after the window and the lock file are created.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the 
>>> other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code 
>>> change or a build process change.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
> 
> With RC4 -
 Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
> 
> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been 
> created with a length of 129
> 
> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
> ;
> 
> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
> 
> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
> 
> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
> 
> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and 
> jars do differ.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > > wrote:
>> 
>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>> 
>>  /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>> 
>> should do it.
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>>> Larry Gusaas > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
> Larry Gusaas > 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>  I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
>> can follow instruction
>>  for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
> 
> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, 
> based on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the 
> current Mac operating system is a form of linux.
 
 macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
 
> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
> debugging.
 
 Doesn't work. Needs more

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Marcus


Am 16.10.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not
the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS.


+1

For the moment the easiest and fastest way.

Marcus




On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.

Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
to test?


On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the source 
code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other way 
round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or a build 
process change.



On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Hi Jim,

I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.

With RC4 -

Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:


(1) I get the little general error dialog.
(2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
(3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
with a length of 129

David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
;

(4) I also get the error if I start like so:

/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt

The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.

There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There are 
differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars do 
differ.

Regards,
Dave


On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > wrote:

Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:

   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice

should do it.


On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell > wrote:

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
Larry Gusaas > wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote


On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
Larry Gusaas > wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:


Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?

Rory

   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can follow 
instruction
   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.


I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
operating system is a form of linux.


macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux


Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run and 
give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or what has 
happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.


Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and try to 
get more
information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
Sierra, which i
upgraded this Mac to recently.


I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
member can assist.

Rory




Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/ 



Thanks
Larry



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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

The next bump for AOO to 4.2.0 also includes a number of
other "gotchas" related to macOS. For example, QtKit in 10.12
is deprecated and removed, meaning that we cannot build the
avmedia component using any SDK older than 10.12. plus, we
cannot build with anything older than a 10.9 SDK due to
C++ compatibility changes.

Basically, the macOS port is gonna require a bit of
TLC.

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I’m not ready to build at the moment.
> 
> Some observations about macOS - The way our Mac versions work on the latest 
> macOS releases is problematic in several ways. This issue adds one more 
> tricky point.
> 
> (1) We do not sign with an Apple Developer account.
> (2) Security Preferences need to be adjusted to open OpenOffice.
> (3) Because of (1) and (2) you have to use Control-click to open OpenOffice.
> (4) If you have Microsoft Word installed then it wants to open ODT files if 
> you double-click on them.

This can easily be changed w/ a Get Info on a ODT file and
then choosing AOO to open those file types.

> (5) To install from the DMG drag and drop no longer works. You have to Copy 
> and Paste to the Applications folder.

Hmmm. I can't recreate that. Is this High Sierra?

> 
> One goal for 4.2 should be to fix all of these issues.
> 
> The trouble is somewhere after the window and the lock file are created.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>> 
>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other 
>> way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or 
>> a build process change.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
 
 With RC4 -
>>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
 
 (1) I get the little general error dialog.
 (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
 (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been 
 created with a length of 129
 
 David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
 ;
 
 (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
 
 /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
 
 The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
 
 There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
 are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars 
 do differ.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski  > wrote:
> 
> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
> 
>   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
> 
> should do it.
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell > > wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>> Larry Gusaas > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>> 
 On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
 Larry Gusaas > 
 wrote:
 
> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>> 
>> Rory
>   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
> can follow instruction
>   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
 
 I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based 
 on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current 
 Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>>> 
>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>>> 
 Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
 run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
 finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
 debugging.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
>>> and try to get more
>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>>> High Sierra, which i
>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>> 
>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
>> list member can assist.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>>> 
 Some

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not
the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS.

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.
> 
> Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
> to test?
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>> 
>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other 
>> way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or 
>> a build process change.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
 
 With RC4 -
>>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
 
 (1) I get the little general error dialog.
 (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
 (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been 
 created with a length of 129
 
 David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
 ;
 
 (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
 
 /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
 
 The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
 
 There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
 are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars 
 do differ.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski  > wrote:
> 
> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
> 
>   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
> 
> should do it.
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell > > wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>> Larry Gusaas > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>> 
 On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
 Larry Gusaas > 
 wrote:
 
> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>> 
>> Rory
>   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
> can follow instruction
>   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
 
 I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based 
 on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current 
 Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>>> 
>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>>> 
 Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
 run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
 finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
 debugging.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
>>> and try to get more
>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>>> High Sierra, which i
>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>> 
>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
>> list member can assist.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>>> 
 Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
 http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
  
 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> _
>>> 
>>> Larry I. Gusaas
>>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com 
>>> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind 
>>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Rory O'Farrell >
>> 
>>

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.

Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
to test?

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other 
> way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or a 
> build process change.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>>> 
>>> With RC4 -
>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>>> 
>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
>>> with a length of 129
>>> 
>>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>>> ;
>>> 
>>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>>> 
>>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>>> 
>>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
>>> 
>>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars 
>>> do differ.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > wrote:
 
 Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
 
/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
 
 should do it.
 
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell  > wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
> Larry Gusaas > 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>> Larry Gusaas > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 
> Larry
> 
> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
> 
> Rory
I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
 can follow instruction
for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>> 
>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based 
>>> on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current 
>>> Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>> 
>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>> 
>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>>> debugging.
>> 
>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and 
>> try to get more
>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>> High Sierra, which i
>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
> 
> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
> list member can assist.
> 
> Rory
> 
>> 
>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> _
>> 
>> Larry I. Gusaas
>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com 
>> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind 
>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
>> 
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> --
> Rory O'Farrell >
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
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>

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Hi -

I’m not ready to build at the moment.

Some observations about macOS - The way our Mac versions work on the latest 
macOS releases is problematic in several ways. This issue adds one more tricky 
point.

(1) We do not sign with an Apple Developer account.
(2) Security Preferences need to be adjusted to open OpenOffice.
(3) Because of (1) and (2) you have to use Control-click to open OpenOffice.
(4) If you have Microsoft Word installed then it wants to open ODT files if you 
double-click on them.
(5) To install from the DMG drag and drop no longer works. You have to Copy and 
Paste to the Applications folder.

One goal for 4.2 should be to fix all of these issues.

The trouble is somewhere after the window and the lock file are created.

Regards,
Dave


> On Oct 16, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other 
> way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or a 
> build process change.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>>> 
>>> With RC4 -
>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>>> 
>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
>>> with a length of 129
>>> 
>>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>>> ;
>>> 
>>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>>> 
>>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>>> 
>>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
>>> 
>>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars 
>>> do differ.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > wrote:
 
 Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
 
/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
 
 should do it.
 
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell  > wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
> Larry Gusaas > 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>> Larry Gusaas > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 
> Larry
> 
> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
> 
> Rory
I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
 can follow instruction
for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>> 
>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based 
>>> on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current 
>>> Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>> 
>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>> 
>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>>> debugging.
>> 
>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and 
>> try to get more
>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>> High Sierra, which i
>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
> 
> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
> list member can assist.
> 
> Rory
> 
>> 
>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> _
>> 
>> Larry I. Gusaas
>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com 
>> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind 
>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan

As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the 
other way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code 
change or a build process change.




On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:



On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Hi Jim,

I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.

With RC4 -


Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:



(1) I get the little general error dialog.
(2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
(3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
with a length of 129

David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
;

(4) I also get the error if I start like so:

/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt

The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.

There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There are 
differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars do 
differ.

Regards,
Dave


On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > wrote:

Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:

/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice

should do it.


On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell > wrote:

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
Larry Gusaas > wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote


On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
Larry Gusaas > wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:


Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?

Rory

I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
follow instruction
for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.


I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
operating system is a form of linux.


macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux


Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run and 
give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or what has 
happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.


Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and try to 
get more
information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
Sierra, which i
upgraded this Mac to recently.


I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
member can assist.

Rory




Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/ 



Thanks
Larry



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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message


> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
> 
> With RC4 -

Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:

> 
> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
> with a length of 129
> 
> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
> ;
> 
> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
> 
> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
> 
> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
> 
> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There are 
> differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars do 
> differ.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski > > wrote:
>> 
>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>> 
>>/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>> 
>> should do it.
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>>> Larry Gusaas > wrote:
>>> 
 On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
> Larry Gusaas > 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
>> follow instruction
>>for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
> 
> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
> something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
> operating system is a form of linux.
 
 macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
 
> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run 
> and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, 
> or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.
 
 Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and 
 try to get more
 information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
 High Sierra, which i
 upgraded this Mac to recently.
>>> 
>>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
>>> member can assist.
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
 
> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>  
> 
 
 Thanks
 Larry
 
 
 
 --
 _
 
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 Website: http://larry-gusaas.com 
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 theirs." - Edgard Varese
 
 
 
 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Hi Jim,

I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.

With RC4 -

(1) I get the little general error dialog.
(2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
(3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created 
with a length of 129

David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4;

(4) I also get the error if I start like so:

/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt

The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.

There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There are 
differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars do 
differ.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
> 
>/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
> 
> should do it.
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>> Larry Gusaas  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>> 
 On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
 Larry Gusaas  wrote:
 
> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>> 
>> Rory
>I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
> follow instruction
>for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
 
 I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
 something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
 operating system is a form of linux.
>>> 
>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>>> 
 Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run 
 and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, 
 or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and 
>>> try to get more
>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
>>> Sierra, which i
>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>> 
>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
>> member can assist.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>>> 
 Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
 http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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>>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread mabdul


>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run 
>>> and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or 
>>> what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.
>>
>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and try 
>> to get more 
>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
>> Sierra, which i 
>> upgraded this Mac to recently. 1) open terminal
2) navigate with cd to
/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS

3.) open soffice with
./soffice


try to reproduce the error and check what is written to the terminal



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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:

/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice

should do it.

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
> Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>> 
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>> Larry Gusaas  wrote:
>>> 
 On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 
> Larry
> 
> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
> 
> Rory
 I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
 follow instruction
 for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>> 
>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
>>> something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
>>> operating system is a form of linux.
>> 
>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>> 
>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run 
>>> and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or 
>>> what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.
>> 
>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and try 
>> to get more 
>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
>> Sierra, which i 
>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
> 
> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
> member can assist.
> 
> Rory
> 
>> 
>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> _
>> 
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>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
> 
> > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
> > Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> >>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
> >>>
> >>> Rory
> >>  I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
> >> follow instruction
> >>  for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
> >
> > I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
> > something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
> > operating system is a form of linux.
> 
> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
> 
> > Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and run 
> > and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or 
> > what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.
> 
> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later and try 
> to get more 
> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High 
> Sierra, which i 
> upgraded this Mac to recently.

I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using list 
member can assist.

Rory

> 
> > Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
> > http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
> 
> Thanks
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> - Edgard Varese
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:

Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?

Rory

I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can
follow instruction
for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.

I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on
something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac
operating system is a form of linux.

macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux

Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes). OO should then open and run and
give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not finding, or what has
happened. These will be helpful to developers debugging.

Doesn't work. Needs more specific command. I will investigate later and try to get more
information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS High Sierra, which i
upgraded this Mac to recently.

Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/

Thanks
Larry

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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600
> > Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> >
> >> On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote
> >>
> >>> Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?
> >> No.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
> >
> > Rory
> 
> I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can 
> follow instruction
> for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.


I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based on 
something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current Mac 
operating system is a form of linux.

I've just searched and see that on a Mac Terminal is in Utilities folder in 
Applications.  Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open 
and run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers debugging.

Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/

Rory


> I am going to install AOO 4.1.4 RC on my other Mac later today. It is 
> still running Sierra.
> Previous release candidates were only used before I upgraded this machine 
> to High Sierra.
> 
> Just installed AOO 4.1.4 RC on my 2015 15" MacBook Pro running macOS Sierra. 
> Same results as on 
> my older MacBook.
> 
> With existing user profile get error message when opening a new or existing 
> writer document. 
> Document opens after clicking OK in the error message.
> 
> With a new user profile opening a new document works okay. Opening an 
> existing writer document 
> gets the error message.
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message


On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:


On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote


Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?

No.


Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?

Rory


   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can follow 
instruction
   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.

   I am going to install AOO 4.1.4 RC on my other Mac later today. It is still 
running Sierra.
   Previous release candidates were only used before I upgraded this machine to 
High Sierra.

Just installed AOO 4.1.4 RC on my 2015 15" MacBook Pro running macOS Sierra. Same results as on 
my older MacBook.


With existing user profile get error message when opening a new or existing writer document. 
Document opens after clicking OK in the error message.


With a new user profile opening a new document works okay. Opening an existing writer document 
gets the error message.


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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message


On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:


On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:


On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote


Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?

No.


Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?


I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I can follow instruction for 
using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.


I am going to install AOO 4.1.4 RC on my other Mac later today. It is still running Sierra. 
Previous release candidates were only used before I upgraded this machine to High Sierra.




Rory

On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:

Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X on 
red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the document opens. 
Happens every time I open a document or a new document. Does not occur with AOO 
4.1.3.

MacBook Pro 13" late 2013
macOS 10.13 High Sierra
AOO414m5(Build:9788)  -  Rev. 1811857






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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:58:09 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote
> 
> > Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?
> 
> No.


Larry

Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?

Rory
> 
> >> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> >>
> >> Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message 
> >> (X on red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the 
> >> document opens. Happens every time I open a document or a new document. 
> >> Does not occur with AOO 4.1.3.
> >>
> >> MacBook Pro 13" late 2013
> >> macOS 10.13 High Sierra
> >> AOO414m5(Build:9788)  -  Rev. 1811857
> >>
> 
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message


On 2017-10-15, 7:13 AM Jim Jagielski wrote


Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?


No.


On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:

Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X on 
red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the document opens. 
Happens every time I open a document or a new document. Does not occur with AOO 
4.1.3.

MacBook Pro 13" late 2013
macOS 10.13 High Sierra
AOO414m5(Build:9788)  -  Rev. 1811857




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Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

2017-10-15 Thread Jim Jagielski

Did this occur w/ any of the other 4.1.4 RCs?

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> 
> Every time I try to open a document with AOO 4.1.4 I get an error message (X 
> on red circle, General Error). When I click on the OK button the document 
> opens. Happens every time I open a document or a new document. Does not occur 
> with AOO 4.1.3.
> 
> MacBook Pro 13" late 2013
> macOS 10.13 High Sierra
> AOO414m5(Build:9788)  -  Rev. 1811857
> 
> 
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> 
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