Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/25/13 7:37 AM, Mechtilde wrote:
 Hello Juergen, Dave, all Am 24.07.2013 23:53, schrieb Dave Fisher:
 
 On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
 
 Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado 
 j...@oooes.org wrote:
 
 I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
  installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also
 Win and OSX.
 
 This would be helpful to the community I think.
 
 The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not
 from a distro specific perspective. These instructions work
 very well for some distros and not well for others. I can't
 elaborate much more on that statement.
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
 
 When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation 
 instructions which are included in the wiki version of the
 Linux install page (which now also needs some slight
 updating):
 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F




 
I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
 any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above
 wiki page.
 
 
 
 if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select
 OpenOffice it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop
 this...
 
 Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should
 stop them to use our brand.
 
 If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with
 Shane on the trademarks@ list.
 
 We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to
 cooperate first.
 
 What do you expect?
 
 We should look deeper into the process how the installation or
 update if openoffice/libreoffice works in the distributions (actual
 versions)
 
 If people tell us that they don't get the office they want then we
 have to analyse what the do. Then we have to explain how they get
 what they want
 
 So we can solve most of the problems.
 
 Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.

nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
and don't underestimate the power of our brand.

I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
volunteers of LibreOffice.

The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
broad LO community.

I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.


Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
source.

 
 As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache 
 OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.

agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area

Juergen

 
 Kind reards
 
 
 Mechtilde
 
 Regards, Dave
 
 
 Juergen
 
 
 
 On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
 chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
 Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the
 time has come to try to get it into the Linux
 distros.At present if one selects
 
 
 
 
 OpenOffice
 in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should
 get a clear choice, not a default substitution.
 
 
 
 The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are 
 willing to package and maintain AOO among these distros' 
 developers.
 
 Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged: 
 http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin


 
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for
 Ubuntu, Arch, Slackware and other distros.
 
 
 
 


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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread RA Stehmann
On 25.07.2013 12:24, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.
 
 nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
 and don't underestimate the power of our brand.
 
 I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
 volunteers of LibreOffice.
 
 The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
 approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
 general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
 here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
 that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
 broad LO community.

That isn't a problem caused by the GNU/Linux-distributionsor their
maintainers. It's caused by some LO-developers.
 
 I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.

That would be the best - especially for the users of a Free office-suite.
 
 Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
 who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
 process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
 distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
 source.

We have to find out the needs and necessities of the distros. And we
need people who are willing and able to package AOO in the distros' way.
That's not easy.

 As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache 
 OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.
 
 agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
 distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area
 
There a not a lot of people in the world who are able and willing to do
that. AOO (and LibrOffice also) is really a beast of code.

Regards
Michael



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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 24/07/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote:

they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand


Before any further discussion of this, we should have real examples 
where running the equivalent of yum install openoffice[.org] or 
apt-get install openoffice[.org] downloads something else.


Some distributions used transitional packages, but they have likely 
been removed in recent releases in most cases. Let's get concrete 
examples from recent distribution releases before continuing.


(and yes, I also think that if such cases still exist it will be 
possible to solve them in a friendly way; and the soffice alias is a 
separate problem)


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Greg Madden
Debian Wheezy system.

root@wheezy64:~# apt-get -s install openoffice.org
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless
fonts-lyx fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic
  fonts-stix icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx-common java-common libapache-pom-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libcmis-0.2-0 libcolamd2.7.1 libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
  libcommons-logging-java libcommons-parent-java libdb-java libdb-je-java
libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-jni libexttextcat-data libexttextcat0
  libgraphite2-2.0.0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0
libhsqldb-java libhyphen0 libicu48 libicu4j-java libjaxp1.3-java
  libjline-java libjtidy-java liblucene2-java libmhash2 libmythes-1.2-0
libneon27-gnutls libpcsclite1 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0
  libregexp-java libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-writer libservlet2.5-java libvisio-0.0-0 libwpd-0.9-9
libwpg-0.2-2
  libwps-0.2-2 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxml-commons-external-java
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java libxz-java libyajl2 lp-solve
  openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib python-uno
ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-liberation ttf-sil-gentium-basic tzdata-java
  uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml
Suggested packages:
  default-jdk java-compiler java-sdk ant-gcj ant-doc libbsf-java
liboro-java junit liblog4j1.2-java jython antlr libbcel-java libjdepend-java
  libgnumail-java libcommons-net-java libjsch-java javacc ant-optional-gcj
equivs libcommons-beanutils-java-doc libcommons-collections3-java-doc
  libcommons-digester-java-doc libavalon-framework-java
libcommons-logging-java-doc libexcalibur-logkit-java libdb5.1-java-gcj
  gstreamer-codec-install gnome-codec-install gstreamer0.10-tools
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base java-virtual-machine libhsqldb-java-doc
  libhsqldb-java-gcj libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libjline-java-doc
libjtidy-java-doc pcscd raptor2-utils rasqal-utils librdf-storage-postgresql
  librdf-storage-mysql librdf-storage-sqlite redland-utils
myspell-dictionary libreoffice-help-3.5 libreoffice-l10n-3.5 unixodbc
cups-bsd
  hyphen-hyphenation-patterns mythes-thesaurus libreoffice-grammarcheck
libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde openclipart-libreoffice pstoedit
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libreoffice-officebean
libmyodbc
  odbc-postgresql libsqliteodbc tdsodbc mdbtools libmysql-java libpg-java
libjtds-java libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-report-builder
  libreoffice-style-hicontrast libreoffice-style-tango
libreoffice-style-crystal libreoffice-style-oxygen libxalan2-java-doc
libxsltc-java
  libxerces2-java-doc libxerces2-java-gcj
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java-doc icedtea-plugin sun-java6-fonts
fonts-ipafont-gothic
  fonts-ipafont-mincho ttf-wqy-microhei ttf-wqy-zenhei ttf-indic-fonts
java5-runtime
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless
fonts-lyx fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic
  fonts-stix icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx-common java-common libapache-pom-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libcmis-0.2-0 libcolamd2.7.1 libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
  libcommons-logging-java libcommons-parent-java libdb-java libdb-je-java
libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-jni libexttextcat-data libexttextcat0
  libgraphite2-2.0.0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0
libhsqldb-java libhyphen0 libicu48 libicu4j-java libjaxp1.3-java
  libjline-java libjtidy-java liblucene2-java libmhash2 libmythes-1.2-0
libneon27-gnutls libpcsclite1 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0
  libregexp-java libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-writer libservlet2.5-java libvisio-0.0-0 libwpd-0.9-9
libwpg-0.2-2
  libwps-0.2-2 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxml-commons-external-java
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java libxz-java libyajl2 lp-solve
  openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
openoffice.orgpython-uno ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-liberation
  ttf-sil-gentium-basic tzdata-java uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml



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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
 Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to try 
 to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects OpenOffice in the 
 distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear choice, not a 
 default substitution.

The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.

Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin

Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
Arch, Slackware and other distros.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn


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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
OSX.

This would be helpful to the community I think.


On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
 Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
 try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects OpenOffice
 in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
 choice, not a default substitution.

 The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
 package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.

 Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
 http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin

 Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
 Arch, Slackware and other distros.


 Best regards,
 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn


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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
 installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
 OSX.

 This would be helpful to the community I think.


The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
and not well for others.  I can't elaborate much more on that statement.

http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html

When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
also needs some slight updating):

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F

I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.



 On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
  Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
  Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
  try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
 OpenOffice
  in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
  choice, not a default substitution.
 
  The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
  package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
 
  Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
  http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
 
  Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
  Arch, Slackware and other distros.
 
 
  Best regards,
  Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
 
 
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
  
  I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
  installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
  OSX.
   
  This would be helpful to the community I think.
  
 The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
 specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
 and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
  
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
  
 When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
 which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
 also needs some slight updating):
  
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
  
 I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
 any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
  
  

if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a 
trademark violation and it is time to stop this...

Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use 
our brand.

Juergen  
  
  
   
  On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
   Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
 


   
  OpenOffice
in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
choice, not a default substitution.
 


   The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
   package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.

   Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
   http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin

   Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
   Arch, Slackware and other distros.


   Best regards,
   Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn


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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

  I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
  installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
  OSX.
 
  This would be helpful to the community I think.
 

 The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
 specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
 and not well for others.  I can't elaborate much more on that statement.

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html

 When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
 which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
 also needs some slight updating):


 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F

 I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
 any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.


​Correct however in the mind of many people they would like to see a 4.0
instructions. Even if 99.9% de same. Should we just change it to the 4.0
release? Even then, the blog will highlight these links.

I remember OSDir - OpenShot used to do this, screenshot guides of
installation of major distros and apps like OpenOffice, however there is
some questions on trying OpenOffice 4.0 while keeping LibO without risk.​





 
  On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
   Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
   Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come
 to
   try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
  OpenOffice
   in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
   choice, not a default substitution.
  
   The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
   package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
  
   Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
   http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
  
   Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
   Arch, Slackware and other distros.
  
  
   Best regards,
   Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
  
  
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
  On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:
 
   I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
   installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
   OSX.
  
   This would be helpful to the community I think.
 
  The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
  specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
  and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
 
  When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
  which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which
 now
  also needs some slight updating):
 
 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
 
  I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
  any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
 
 

 if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a
 trademark violation and it is time to stop this...

 Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to
 use our brand.

 Juergen


I remember you brought this up before. What I had found in my case, was not
the situation you're talking about, but the relinking of the base program,
soffice. OK, time to start looking for the other matter.



 
  
   On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
 Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has
 come to
 try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects

   
   
  
   OpenOffice
 in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
 choice, not a default substitution.

   
   
The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
   
Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
   
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
Arch, Slackware and other distros.
   
   
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
   
   
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 
 I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
 installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
 OSX.
 
 This would be helpful to the community I think.
 
 The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
 specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
 and not well for others. I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
 
 When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
 which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which now
 also needs some slight updating):
 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
 
 I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
 any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
 
 
 
 if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select OpenOffice it's a 
 trademark violation and it is time to stop this...
 
 Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to 
 use our brand.

If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with Shane on the 
trademarks@ list.

We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to cooperate first.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Juergen  
 
 
 
 On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
 Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to
 try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
 
 
 
 
 OpenOffice
 in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
 choice, not a default substitution.
 
 
 
 The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
 package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
 
 Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
 http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
 
 Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
 Arch, Slackware and other distros.
 
 
 Best regards,
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:
 
   I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
   installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also Win and
   OSX.
  
   This would be helpful to the community I think.
  
 
  The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not from a distro
  specific perspective. These instructions work very well for some distros
  and not well for others.  I can't elaborate much more on that statement.
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html
 
  When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation instructions
  which are included in the wiki version of the Linux install page (which
 now
  also needs some slight updating):
 
 
 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F
 
  I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
  any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above wiki page.
 

 ​Correct however in the mind of many people they would like to see a 4.0
 instructions. Even if 99.9% de same. Should we just change it to the 4.0
 release? Even then, the blog will highlight these links.


The Install link above the wiki link specifically addresses 4.0.

The wiki page can be changed by anyone with a wiki account to reflect 4.0.
Or a new 4.0 page added with whatever changes anyone feels are needed.




 I remember OSDir - OpenShot used to do this, screenshot guides of
 installation of major distros and apps like OpenOffice, however there is
 some questions on trying OpenOffice 4.0 while keeping LibO without risk.​


There's no reason why we can't do this. It just takes someone to make it
happen. That's what the wiki is for.





 
 
  
   On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come
  to
try to get it into the Linux distros.At present if one selects
   OpenOffice
in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear
choice, not a default substitution.
   
The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are willing to
package and maintain AOO among these distros' developers.
   
Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
   
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for Ubuntu,
Arch, Slackware and other distros.
   
   
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
   
   
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