Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
Go ahead lars :-)

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM,  wrote:

> Great. 14 fixes in a patch release. That's a healthy number.
> Andy, didn't react to your earlier offer... Did you want to do the 4.8.2
> release? Fine either way.
>
> -- Lars
>   From: Samarth Jain 
>  To: dev ; la...@apache.org
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:31 PM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> Changes in PHOENIX-3432 were committed as part of PHOENIX-3436.
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM,  wrote:
>
> Need to wait PHOENIX-3432 in both branches.
>
>   From: "la...@apache.org" 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> I'll clean up Jira for 4.8.2 and spin the RCs. Today and/or early tomorrow.
>
>   From: James Taylor 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
> Cc: lars hofhansl 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
> the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
> perhaps you weren't aware of that.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> > lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of
> at
> > least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing
> has
> > changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge
> to
> > patch for themselves.
> >
> > And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a
> release
> > that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing
> to
> > do.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > > wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > > now. Second RC will be up today.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> > before
> > > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> > include
> > > > the
> > > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > > 4.8.2
> > > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > > -- Lars
> > > > >
> > > > >  From: Andrew Purtell 
> > >
> > > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> > dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > > >
> > > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> > releases
> > > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> > understand
> > > > the
> > > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> > HBase
> > > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> > jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1
> who
> > > > would
> > > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a
> 4.9.0
> > > > which
> > > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > > usual)
> > > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move
> to
> > > > 4.9.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > > users
> > > > > on
> > > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread larsh
Great. 14 fixes in a patch release. That's a healthy number.
Andy, didn't react to your earlier offer... Did you want to do the 4.8.2 
release? Fine either way.

-- Lars
  From: Samarth Jain 
 To: dev ; la...@apache.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
   
Changes in PHOENIX-3432 were committed as part of PHOENIX-3436. 
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM,  wrote:

Need to wait PHOENIX-3432 in both branches.

      From: "la...@apache.org" 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:27 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

I'll clean up Jira for 4.8.2 and spin the RCs. Today and/or early tomorrow.

      From: James Taylor 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
Cc: lars hofhansl 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
 
I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
perhaps you weren't aware of that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of at
> least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing has
> changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge to
> patch for themselves.
>
> And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a release
> that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing to
> do.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > wrote:
>
> > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > now. Second RC will be up today.
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> before
> > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> include
> > > the
> > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > 4.8.2
> > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > > >      From: Andrew Purtell 
> >
> > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > >
> > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> releases
> > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> understand
> > > the
> > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> HBase
> > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > > would
> > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > > which
> > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > usual)
> > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > > 4.9.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > users
> > > > on
> > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> apurt...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > > Phoenix
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > > jamestay...@apache.org  >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > > 10/31)
> > > >

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Samarth Jain
Changes in PHOENIX-3432 were committed as part of PHOENIX-3436.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM,  wrote:

> Need to wait PHOENIX-3432 in both branches.
>
>   From: "la...@apache.org" 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> I'll clean up Jira for 4.8.2 and spin the RCs. Today and/or early tomorrow.
>
>   From: James Taylor 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
> Cc: lars hofhansl 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
> the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
> perhaps you weren't aware of that.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> > lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of
> at
> > least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing
> has
> > changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge
> to
> > patch for themselves.
> >
> > And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a
> release
> > that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing
> to
> > do.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > > wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > > now. Second RC will be up today.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> > before
> > > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> > include
> > > > the
> > > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > > 4.8.2
> > > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > > -- Lars
> > > > >
> > > > >  From: Andrew Purtell 
> > >
> > > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> > dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > > >
> > > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> > releases
> > > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> > understand
> > > > the
> > > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> > HBase
> > > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> > jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1
> who
> > > > would
> > > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a
> 4.9.0
> > > > which
> > > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > > usual)
> > > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move
> to
> > > > 4.9.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > > users
> > > > > on
> > > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> > apurt...@apache.org 
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > > > Phoenix
> > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread larsh
Need to wait PHOENIX-3432 in both branches.

  From: "la...@apache.org" 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org"  
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:27 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
   
I'll clean up Jira for 4.8.2 and spin the RCs. Today and/or early tomorrow.

      From: James Taylor 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org"  
Cc: lars hofhansl 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
  
I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
perhaps you weren't aware of that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of at
> least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing has
> changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge to
> patch for themselves.
>
> And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a release
> that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing to
> do.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > wrote:
>
> > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > now. Second RC will be up today.
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> before
> > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> include
> > > the
> > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > 4.8.2
> > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > > >      From: Andrew Purtell 
> >
> > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > >
> > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> releases
> > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> understand
> > > the
> > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> HBase
> > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > > would
> > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > > which
> > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > usual)
> > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > > 4.9.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > users
> > > > on
> > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> apurt...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > > Phoenix
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > > jamestay...@apache.org  >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > > 10/31)
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > > > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do
> both
> > > > 4.8.2
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, 

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread larsh
I'll clean up Jira for 4.8.2 and spin the RCs. Today and/or early tomorrow.

  From: James Taylor 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org"  
Cc: lars hofhansl 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
   
I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
perhaps you weren't aware of that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of at
> least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing has
> changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge to
> patch for themselves.
>
> And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a release
> that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing to
> do.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > wrote:
>
> > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > now. Second RC will be up today.
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> before
> > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> include
> > > the
> > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > 4.8.2
> > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > > >      From: Andrew Purtell 
> >
> > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > >
> > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> releases
> > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> understand
> > > the
> > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> HBase
> > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > > would
> > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > > which
> > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > usual)
> > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > > 4.9.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > users
> > > > on
> > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> apurt...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > > Phoenix
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > > jamestay...@apache.org  >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > > 10/31)
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > > > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do
> both
> > > > 4.8.2
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi All,
>

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread James Taylor
I'm in support of 4.8.2. I was just pointing out that we've already started
the release process for 4.9 as your prior email seemed to indicate that
perhaps you weren't aware of that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
> lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of at
> least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing has
> changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge to
> patch for themselves.
>
> And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a release
> that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing to
> do.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  > wrote:
>
> > Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> > now. Second RC will be up today.
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+
> before
> > > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not
> include
> > > the
> > > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> > 4.8.2
> > > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > > >   From: Andrew Purtell 
> >
> > > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org  " <
> dev@phoenix.apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > Cc: lars hofhansl  >
> > > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > > >
> > > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x
> releases
> > > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully
> understand
> > > the
> > > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to
> HBase
> > > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor <
> jamestay...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > > would
> > > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > > which
> > > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> > usual)
> > > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > > 4.9.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> > users
> > > > on
> > > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> apurt...@apache.org 
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > > Phoenix
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > > jamestay...@apache.org  >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > > 10/31)
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > > > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do
> both
> > > > 4.8.2
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important
> > > enough
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> > > > before
> > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> > > > vastly
> > > > > > > > different opinions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Lars
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >- Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -
> Piet
> > > > Hein
> > > > > > (via Tom White)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >   - Andy
> > > >
> > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > Hein
> > > > (via Tom White)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >- Andy
> > >
> > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> > > (via Tom White)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>- Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
There was an earlier discussion here regarding supporting multiple code
lines. There seemed to be support for that. That implies maintenance of at
least one code line prior to the most recent, no? Or otherwise nothing has
changed, leaving all users who can't use or don't want the bleeding edge to
patch for themselves.

And, especially because 4.8.x won't work with 1.2 at all, I think a release
that fixes that problem before moving on from 4.8 is a responsible thing to
do.


On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  wrote:

> Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> now. Second RC will be up today.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+ before
> > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, > wrote:
> >
> > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include
> > the
> > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> 4.8.2
> > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > -- Lars
> > >
> > >   From: Andrew Purtell >
> > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org "  > >
> > > Cc: lars hofhansl >
> > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > >
> > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
> > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand
> > the
> > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
> > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor  > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > would
> > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > which
> > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> usual)
> > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > 4.9.0.
> > > >
> > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> users
> > > on
> > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell  > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > Phoenix
> > > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > jamestay...@apache.org >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > 10/31)
> > > > with
> > > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both
> > > 4.8.2
> > > > > and
> > > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  >
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important
> > enough
> > > > ...
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> > > before
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> > > vastly
> > > > > > > different opinions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Lars
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >- Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > > Hein
> > > > > (via Tom White)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >   - Andy
> > >
> > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> > > (via Tom White)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >- Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
> >
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Samarth Jain
I am done porting changes as part of
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-3436.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, James Taylor  wrote:

> Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
> now. Second RC will be up today.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+ before
> > moving on to 4.9 and up.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, > wrote:
> >
> > > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include
> > the
> > > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a
> 4.8.2
> > > I'll spin an RC today.
> > > -- Lars
> > >
> > >   From: Andrew Purtell >
> > >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org "  > >
> > > Cc: lars hofhansl >
> > >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> > >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> > >
> > > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
> > > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand
> > the
> > > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
> > > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor  > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> > would
> > > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> > which
> > > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as
> usual)
> > > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> > 4.9.0.
> > > >
> > > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465),
> users
> > > on
> > > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell  > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> > Phoenix
> > > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> > jamestay...@apache.org >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> > 10/31)
> > > > with
> > > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both
> > > 4.8.2
> > > > > and
> > > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  >
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important
> > enough
> > > > ...
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> > > before
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> > > vastly
> > > > > > > different opinions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Lars
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >- Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > > Hein
> > > > > (via Tom White)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >   - Andy
> > >
> > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> > > (via Tom White)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >- Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
> >
>


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread James Taylor
Sounds good, except we've already moved on to 4.9 as we're voting on it
now. Second RC will be up today.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+ before
> moving on to 4.9 and up.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM, > wrote:
>
> > Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include
> the
> > column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a 4.8.2
> > I'll spin an RC today.
> > -- Lars
> >
> >   From: Andrew Purtell >
> >  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org "  >
> > Cc: lars hofhansl >
> >  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
> >  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
> >
> > Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
> > with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand
> the
> > version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
> > lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who
> would
> > > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0
> which
> > > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
> > > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to
> 4.9.0.
> > >
> > > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users
> > on
> > > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a
> Phoenix
> > > > release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor <
> jamestay...@apache.org >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by
> 10/31)
> > > with
> > > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> > PHOENIX-6
> > > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both
> > 4.8.2
> > > > and
> > > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM, >
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important
> enough
> > > ...
> > > > > and
> > > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> > before
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> > vastly
> > > > > > different opinions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Lars
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >- Andy
> > > >
> > > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> > Hein
> > > > (via Tom White)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >   - Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>- Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
Yes please I think we need a 4.8.x that fixes PHOENIX-3407 on 1.2+ before
moving on to 4.9 and up.


On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:

> Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include the
> column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a 4.8.2
> I'll spin an RC today.
> -- Lars
>
>   From: Andrew Purtell 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
> Cc: lars hofhansl 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
> with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand the
> version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
> lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who would
> > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0 which
> > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
> > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to 4.9.0.
> >
> > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users
> on
> > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
> > > release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31)
> > with
> > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> PHOENIX-6
> > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both
> 4.8.2
> > > and
> > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough
> > ...
> > > > and
> > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> before
> > > I'll
> > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> vastly
> > > > > different opinions.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Lars
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >- Andy
> > >
> > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> > > (via Tom White)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>   - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>
>
>
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Samarth Jain
Before cutting the RC, I would like to get
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-3436 in. I didn't anticipate
that we will be doing more releases on the 4.8 branch. So didn't checkin
the fixes there. Will work on cherry picking the changes and commit them.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:00 PM,  wrote:

> Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include the
> column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a 4.8.2
> I'll spin an RC today.
> -- Lars
>
>   From: Andrew Purtell 
>  To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org" 
> Cc: lars hofhansl 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
>  Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
>
> Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
> with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand the
> version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
> lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who would
> > not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0 which
> > has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
> > with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to 4.9.0.
> >
> > One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users
> on
> > HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
> > > release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31)
> > with
> > > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and
> PHOENIX-6
> > > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both
> 4.8.2
> > > and
> > > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough
> > ...
> > > > and
> > > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As
> before
> > > I'll
> > > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're
> vastly
> > > > > different opinions.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Lars
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >- Andy
> > >
> > > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> Hein
> > > (via Tom White)
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>   - Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>
>
>
>


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread larsh
Was going to do it this week. Then again, since 4.9.0 does not include the 
column encoding I was less enthused about it.If we think we want a 4.8.2 I'll 
spin an RC today.
-- Lars

  From: Andrew Purtell 
 To: "dev@phoenix.apache.org"  
Cc: lars hofhansl 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0
   
Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand the
version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor 
wrote:

> Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who would
> not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0 which
> has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
> with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to 4.9.0.
>
> One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users on
> HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
> > release.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31)
> with
> > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and PHOENIX-6
> > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both 4.8.2
> > and
> > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough
> ...
> > > and
> > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before
> > I'll
> > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly
> > > > different opinions.
> > > >
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >    - Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
> >
>



-- 
Best regards,

  - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


   

Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
Right, I think we should address PHOENIX-3407 in current 4.8.x releases
with a fixed version of it. I don't think we can ever fully understand the
version usage patterns of our users. I've seen folks write in to HBase
lists using 4 year old releases for unfathomable reasons.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:38 AM, James Taylor 
wrote:

> Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who would
> not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0 which
> has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
> with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to 4.9.0.
>
> One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users on
> HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell 
> wrote:
>
> > Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
> > release.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31)
> with
> > > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and PHOENIX-6
> > > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both 4.8.2
> > and
> > > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough
> ...
> > > and
> > > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before
> > I'll
> > > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly
> > > > different opinions.
> > > >
> > > > -- Lars
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >- Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
> >
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread James Taylor
Thanks, Andrew. One question: are there users on 4.8.0 or 4.8.1 who would
not want to upgrade to 4.9.0? We're in the voting stage for a 4.9.0 which
has all the fixes in 4.8 branch (and more) and is compatible (as usual)
with 4.8 releases through rolling restarts. At SFDC, we'll move to 4.9.0.

One thing is clear, though. Given PHOENIX-3407 (and HBASE-14465), users on
HBase 1.2 should not use 4.8.0 or 4.8.1.

Thanks,
James

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Purtell  wrote:

> Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
> release.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> > Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31) with
> > the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and PHOENIX-6
> > (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both 4.8.2
> and
> > 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough ...
> > and
> > > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before
> I'll
> > > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly
> > > different opinions.
> > >
> > > -- Lars
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>- Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-11-02 Thread Andrew Purtell
Need help with making a 4.8.2? I could try my hand at making a Phoenix
release.


On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 7:06 PM, James Taylor 
wrote:

> Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31) with
> the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and PHOENIX-6
> (atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both 4.8.2 and
> 4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough ...
> and
> > over 200 against 4.9.0.
> > I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before I'll
> > volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> > Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly
> > different opinions.
> >
> > -- Lars
> >
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)


Re: 4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-10-15 Thread James Taylor
Current plan is to have a 4.9.0 RC in that same timeframe (by 10/31) with
the column encoding work (PHOENIX-1598 and PHOENIX-2565) and PHOENIX-6
(atomic insert/update).  If it's too much much for you to do both 4.8.2 and
4.9 simultaneously, I can volunteer to be the RM for 4.9.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM,  wrote:

> Hi All,
> we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough ... and
> over 200 against 4.9.0.
> I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before I'll
> volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
> Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly
> different opinions.
>
> -- Lars
>


4.8.2 and/or 4.9.0

2016-10-15 Thread larsh
Hi All,
we have 20 jiras against 4.8.2 some of which seem important enough ... and over 
200 against 4.9.0.
I think we should start keeping stable branches for longer.As before I'll 
volunteer doing 4.8.2 as well as a 4.9.0.
Let's think about a 4.8.2 in two weeks or so, unless there're vastly different 
opinions.

-- Lars