Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Thanks for tracking this, Riley. I agree that we are ready to VOTE.

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Dec 12, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

The podling name search has completed and our name was approved![1]

I think that's the final thing we needed to take care of unless there's any 
issues with out IP clearance. If so, I think we're ready to move to a VOTE on 
graduation.

[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-216?focusedCommentId=17795955=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels*3Acomment-tabpanel*comment-17795955__;JSM!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!IfyrJuT8dMngnW9ngkHOyjAj659RdTWuO4gp7kxQmF74qYjxGIL2EQiX7irapPt3X6jsXIJfqGcsT7nfmcM$

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see 
this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.

Licensing
* No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
* No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
* No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
Naming
* No Podling Name Search on file [2]

Julian

[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!IfyrJuT8dMngnW9ngkHOyjAj659RdTWuO4gp7kxQmF74qYjxGIL2EQiX7irapPt3X6jsXIJfqGcs2uYAAvg$
[2] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html*name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!IfyrJuT8dMngnW9ngkHOyjAj659RdTWuO4gp7kxQmF74qYjxGIL2EQiX7irapPt3X6jsXIJfqGcsEWrRhFw$

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
 wrote:

Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
but it might be a good idea to update the official website.

Thanks

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:

I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!

Best,
Nga


On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
graduating SDAP in earnest.
Over the past year or so, we've:
- Successfully ran through the release process twice
- Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
- Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc

What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
are any issues that are holding us back?

Thanks,
Riley

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

The podling name search has completed and our name was approved![1]

I think that's the final thing we needed to take care of unless there's any 
issues with out IP clearance. If so, I think we're ready to move to a VOTE on 
graduation.

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-216?focusedCommentId=17795955=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17795955

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Very good, Joe

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Dec 5, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Jacob, Joseph C (US 398H) 
 wrote:

I'd also be in favor of leaving the science domain open as well.  On the 
"Unity SDS" (science data system project) at JPL I have an SDAP deployment and 
ingested some planetary data to run time series as an experiment last year.  
Unity is mainly focused on Earth for now, but I recall hearing during the 
formulation stage that support for Earth, planetary, and astrophysics is in the 
long-term roadmap. To work with the planetary data, I had to repackage the 
input data into a CF-compliant NetCDF format that SDAP supports.   Maybe in the 
future we will want to extend SDAP to directly support science data formats 
common in other domains like PDS4 and FITS.

Joe


On 12/5/23, 7:28 AM, "Riley Kuttruff" mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote:


I think we shouldn't restrict ourselves to Earth science here. We could
definitely point out that it is currently used in Earth science elsewhere,
but we should avoid attaching that label to the project for the extended
future in the (apparently likely) event we will branch out in application to
planetary sciences.


On 2023/12/05 00:37:32 Nga Chung wrote:
This might just be me being nitpicky, but I think it should be
analytics with an s and wondering if we should say "integrated data
analytics center for big Earth science problems?" Should we emphasize
Earth here versus science in general? Understandably, there isn't
anything preventing SDAP from being used outside of the Earth Science
domain, but emphasizing Earth science may make SDAP stand out from
other data analytics solutions.

Best,
Nga

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:21 PM Riley Kuttruff mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote:

So something like

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.

... and so on

I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!

On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” seems 
to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a mission 
statement. Could you remove it? I think that

SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems

is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the first 
line of every board report and conference presentation for the next ten years. 
So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)

You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. Don’t 
try to force it into a single phrase.

Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).

Julian


On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote:

Already done! (Pending PMC choices)

---

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data
analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology integration,
advancement and maturity; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:

* NAME EMAIL

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Jacob, Joseph C (US 398H)]

I'd also be in favor of leaving the science domain open as well.  On the "Unity 
SDS" (science data system project) at JPL I have an SDAP deployment and 
ingested some planetary data to run time series as an experiment last year.  
Unity is mainly focused on Earth for now, but I recall hearing during the 
formulation stage that support for Earth, planetary, and astrophysics is in the 
long-term roadmap. To work with the planetary data, I had to repackage the 
input data into a CF-compliant NetCDF format that SDAP supports.   Maybe in the 
future we will want to extend SDAP to directly support science data formats 
common in other domains like PDS4 and FITS.

Joe


On 12/5/23, 7:28 AM, "Riley Kuttruff" mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote:


I think we shouldn't restrict ourselves to Earth science here. We could 
definitely point out that it is currently used in Earth science elsewhere,
but we should avoid attaching that label to the project for the extended
future in the (apparently likely) event we will branch out in application to 
planetary sciences.


On 2023/12/05 00:37:32 Nga Chung wrote:
> This might just be me being nitpicky, but I think it should be
> analytics with an s and wondering if we should say "integrated data
> analytics center for big Earth science problems?" Should we emphasize
> Earth here versus science in general? Understandably, there isn't
> anything preventing SDAP from being used outside of the Earth Science
> domain, but emphasizing Earth science may make SDAP stand out from
> other data analytics solutions.
> 
> Best,
> Nga
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:21 PM Riley Kuttruff  > wrote:
> >
> > So something like
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.
> >
> > ... and so on
> >
> > I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!
> >
> > On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > > The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” 
> > > seems to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a 
> > > mission statement. Could you remove it? I think that
> > >
> > > SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> > >
> > > is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the 
> > > first line of every board report and conference presentation for the next 
> > > ten years. So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)
> > >
> > > You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. 
> > > Don’t try to force it into a single phrase.
> > >
> > > Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Already done! (Pending PMC choices)
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > > related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> > > > focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
> > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
> > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated 
> > > > data
> > > > analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology 
> > > > integration,
> > > > advancement and maturity; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
> > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
> > > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
> > > > Project; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:
> > > >
> > > > * NAME EMAIL
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
> > > > the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
> > > > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Some follow up:

I committed the file [1], but now I'm confused as to whether or not 
I'm doing the right thing. I would have thought our codebase would 
be cleared when we were accepted into the incubator, and the IP 
Clearance guide states that "This form is not for new projects" 
leading me to believe this is just for significant additions to the 
SDAP codebase (ie, upcoming insitu data services work) [2], but at 
the same time, IP Clearance is shown as a requirement for 
graduation (ie, was one of the red flags that I may have prematurely 
cleared).

Some guidance would be helpful here.

Thanks,
Riley

[1] 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/sdap.xml
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/mb2srl1yqopw06k5rqcjgzvrhb93kxjw

On 2023/12/05 20:00:31 Riley Kuttruff wrote:
> Hey Julian,
> 
> So it appears we haven't done the IP clearance/acceptance process, though we 
> do have an SGA on file for SDAP [1][2]. I have the .xml file filled out, 
> though the process description states an officer or member is required to do 
> this process, I could try to check it in myself, or send it to you for 
> review, then start the IPMC thread.
> 
> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
> [2] 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/
> 
> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> > need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> > see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> > 
> > Licensing
> > * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> > * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> > * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> > Naming
> > * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> > 
> > Julian
> > 
> > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> > 
> > > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Thomas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thomas Huang
> > > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > > (818) 354-2747
> > > 
> > > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > > 
> > > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Nga
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > > 
> > > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion 
> > > of graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, 
> > > we should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > > 
> > > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Riley
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Hey Julian,

So it appears we haven't done the IP clearance/acceptance process, though we do 
have an SGA on file for SDAP [1][2]. I have the .xml file filled out, though 
the process description states an officer or member is required to do this 
process, I could try to check it in myself, or send it to you for review, then 
start the IPMC thread.

[1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
[2] 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

I think we shouldn't restrict ourselves to Earth science here. We could 
definitely point out that it is currently used in Earth science elsewhere,
but we should avoid attaching that label to the project for the extended
future in the (apparently likely) event we will branch out in application to 
planetary sciences.

On 2023/12/05 00:37:32 Nga Chung wrote:
> This might just be me being nitpicky, but I think it should be
> analytics with an s and wondering if we should say "integrated data
> analytics center for big Earth science problems?" Should we emphasize
> Earth here versus science in general? Understandably, there isn't
> anything preventing SDAP from being used outside of the Earth Science
> domain, but emphasizing Earth science may make SDAP stand out from
> other data analytics solutions.
> 
> Best,
> Nga
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:21 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> >
> > So something like
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.
> >
> > ... and so on
> >
> > I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!
> >
> > On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > > The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” 
> > > seems to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a 
> > > mission statement. Could you remove it? I think that
> > >
> > >   SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> > >
> > > is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the 
> > > first line of every board report and conference presentation for the next 
> > > ten years. So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)
> > >
> > > You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. 
> > > Don’t try to force it into a single phrase.
> > >
> > > Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Already done! (Pending PMC choices)
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > > related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> > > > focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
> > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
> > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated 
> > > > data
> > > > analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology 
> > > > integration,
> > > > advancement and maturity; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
> > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
> > > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
> > > > Project; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:
> > > >
> > > > * NAME EMAIL
> > > >
> > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
> > > > the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
> > > > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> > > > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> > > > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > > > further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
> > > > podling; and be it further
> > > >
> > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > > SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > > discharged.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > > >> Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that 
> > > >> resolution there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of 
> > > >> the project, initial PMC 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

FYI. We are in discussion with NASA JPL on using SDAP for planetary science.

thanks

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:

This might just be me being nitpicky, but I think it should be
analytics with an s and wondering if we should say "integrated data
analytics center for big Earth science problems?" Should we emphasize
Earth here versus science in general? Understandably, there isn't
anything preventing SDAP from being used outside of the Earth Science
domain, but emphasizing Earth science may make SDAP stand out from
other data analytics solutions.

Best,
Nga

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:21 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

So something like

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.

... and so on

I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!

On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” seems 
to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a mission 
statement. Could you remove it? I think that

 SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems

is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the first 
line of every board report and conference presentation for the next ten years. 
So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)

You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. Don’t 
try to force it into a single phrase.

Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).

Julian


On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

Already done! (Pending PMC choices)

---

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data
analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology integration,
advancement and maturity; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:

* NAME EMAIL

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.


On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that resolution 
there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of the project, initial 
PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do NOT want to join the PMC) and 
initial PMC chair.

On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

Ok, I've cleared all the red flags.

I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.

Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.

I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see 
this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Nga Chung]

This might just be me being nitpicky, but I think it should be
analytics with an s and wondering if we should say "integrated data
analytics center for big Earth science problems?" Should we emphasize
Earth here versus science in general? Understandably, there isn't
anything preventing SDAP from being used outside of the Earth Science
domain, but emphasizing Earth science may make SDAP stand out from
other data analytics solutions.

Best,
Nga

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:21 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
>
> So something like
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.
>
> ... and so on
>
> I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!
>
> On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” 
> > seems to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a 
> > mission statement. Could you remove it? I think that
> >
> >   SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> >
> > is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the 
> > first line of every board report and conference presentation for the next 
> > ten years. So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)
> >
> > You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. 
> > Don’t try to force it into a single phrase.
> >
> > Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > >
> > > Already done! (Pending PMC choices)
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> > > focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
> > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data
> > > analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology 
> > > integration,
> > > advancement and maturity; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
> > > Project; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:
> > >
> > > * NAME EMAIL
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
> > > the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
> > > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> > > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> > > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > > further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
> > > podling; and be it further
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > > SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > > discharged.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > >> Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that 
> > >> resolution there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of 
> > >> the project, initial PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do 
> > >> NOT want to join the PMC) and initial PMC chair.
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok, I've cleared all the red flags.
> > >>>
> > >>> I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to 
> > >>> vote!
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> >  I checked SDAP’s 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

So something like

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems.

... and so on

I think that's much better! Thanks for the feedback!

On 2023/12/05 00:18:38 Julian Hyde wrote:
> The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” 
> seems to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a 
> mission statement. Could you remove it? I think that
> 
>   SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems
> 
> is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the first 
> line of every board report and conference presentation for the next ten 
> years. So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)
> 
> You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. 
> Don’t try to force it into a single phrase.
> 
> Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > Already done! (Pending PMC choices)
> > 
> > --- 
> > 
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems 
> > focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.
> > 
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > 
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
> > for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data 
> > analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology 
> > integration, 
> > advancement and maturity; and be it further
> > 
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
> > Project; and be it further
> > 
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:
> > 
> > * NAME EMAIL
> > 
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
> > the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
> > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > further
> > 
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
> > podling; and be it further
> > 
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> > SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> > discharged.
> > 
> > 
> > On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
> >> Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that 
> >> resolution there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of the 
> >> project, initial PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do NOT 
> >> want to join the PMC) and initial PMC chair.
> >> 
> >>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Ok, I've cleared all the red flags. 
> >>> 
> >>> I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.
> >>> 
> >>> Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.
> >>> 
> >>> I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!
> >>> 
> >>> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
>  I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items 
>  that need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are 
>  allowed to see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working 
>  on these.
>  
>  Licensing
>  * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
>  * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>  * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>  Naming
>  * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
>  
>  Julian
>  
>  [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
>  [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
>  
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Julian Hyde]

The phrase "focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity” seems 
to be a little superfluous. It is not description, but more of a mission 
statement. Could you remove it? I think that

  SDAP is… an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems

is a perfect description (aka high concept pitch). It will also be the first 
line of every board report and conference presentation for the next ten years. 
So make sure you like it and are comfortable saying it. :)

You can also have a mission statement that is 1 - 2 sentences in length. Don’t 
try to force it into a single phrase.

Just my two cents (wearing my marketing hat).

Julian


> On Dec 4, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> 
> Already done! (Pending PMC choices)
> 
> --- 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems 
> focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
> for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data 
> analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology integration, 
> advancement and maturity; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
> Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:
> 
> * NAME EMAIL
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
> the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
> with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
> or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
> the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
> podling; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> discharged.
> 
> 
> On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
>> Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that resolution 
>> there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of the project, 
>> initial PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do NOT want to join 
>> the PMC) and initial PMC chair.
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I've cleared all the red flags. 
>>> 
>>> I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.
>>> 
>>> Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.
>>> 
>>> I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!
>>> 
>>> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
 I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items 
 that need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are 
 allowed to see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working 
 on these.
 
 Licensing
 * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
 * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
 * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
 Naming
 * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
 
 Julian
 
 [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
 [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
 
> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> Thomas Huang
> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> (818) 354-2747
> 
> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> 
> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> the 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Already done! (Pending PMC choices)

--- 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
related to  an integrated data analytic center for Big Science problems 
focusing on technology integration, advancement and maturity.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache SDAP Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is responsible
for the creation and maintenance of software related to an integrated data 
analytic center for Big Science problems focusing on technology integration, 
advancement and maturity; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache SDAP" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache SDAP
Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache SDAP
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache SDAP Project:

* NAME EMAIL

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that **TBD** be appointed to
the office of Vice President, Apache SDAP, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the Apache SDAP Project be and hereby is tasked with
the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator SDAP
podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
SDAP podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.


On 2023/12/05 00:06:14 Julian Hyde wrote:
> Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that resolution 
> there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of the project, 
> initial PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do NOT want to join 
> the PMC) and initial PMC chair.
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, I've cleared all the red flags. 
> > 
> > I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.
> > 
> > Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.
> > 
> > I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!
> > 
> > On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> >> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items 
> >> that need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are 
> >> allowed to see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working 
> >> on these.
> >> 
> >> Licensing
> >> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> >> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> >> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> >> Naming
> >> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> >> 
> >> Julian
> >> 
> >> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> >> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> >>> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas Huang
> >>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> >>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> >>> (818) 354-2747
> >>> 
> >>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> >>> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> >>> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> Nga
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion 
> >>> of graduating SDAP in earnest.
> >>> Over the past year or so, we've:
> >>> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> >>> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, 
> >>> we should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> >>> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> >>> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> >>> 
> >>> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> >>> there are any issues that are holding us back?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Julian Hyde]

Might be worth generating a draft graduation resolution. In that resolution 
there are a couple of things to discuss — a description of the project, initial 
PMC (are there any committers/PPMC members who do NOT want to join the PMC) and 
initial PMC chair.

> On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I've cleared all the red flags. 
> 
> I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.
> 
> Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.
> 
> I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!
> 
> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
>> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
>> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
>> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
>> 
>> Licensing
>> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
>> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>> Naming
>> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
>>> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas Huang
>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>> (818) 354-2747
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
>>> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
>>> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Nga
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
>>> graduating SDAP in earnest.
>>> Over the past year or so, we've:
>>> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
>>> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
>>> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
>>> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
>>> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
>>> 
>>> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
>>> there are any issues that are holding us back?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Riley
>> 
>> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Ok, I've cleared all the red flags. 

I used today's date for dates I didn't know. I don't know if that's ok.

Still waiting for the name search before we can proceed.

I think once that's done and (hopefully) approved, we can proceed to vote!

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

I created a Jira case [1] with my findings in the name search

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-216

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

The sites seem to have been rebuilt but the red flags are still there...

@Julian, did I miss something?

On 2023/12/04 22:10:20 Riley Kuttruff wrote:
> Ok I updated sdap.xml to reflect the project's status as best I could.
> 
> - Added releases to the News section
> - Updated table for mailing lists, source repos, mentors, and committers 
> - Added dates in the Copyright and Verify distribution rights sections. 
> (Replaced -..-.. with today's date)
> 
> It's been committed but I guess we have to wait for the data and sites to be 
> rebuilt...
> 
> On 2023/12/04 21:36:47 Julian Hyde wrote:
> > Thomas,
> > 
> > Thanks for looking into it. Sorry it was a false alarm. It’s likely that 
> > those red flags exist because the incubation metadata is out of date. 
> > 
> > It’s worthwhile to spend the time updating the metadata. I believe the 
> > following are the important files:
> >  * 
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml
> >  
> >  * 
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/sdap.xml
> >  
> >  * https://incubator.apache.org/projects/sdap.html 
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the name search still needs to be done. Maybe others 
> > too.
> > 
> > Julian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Dec 2, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Julian,
> > > 
> > > I searched my old email archive and found the original Software Grant I 
> > > submitted to secret...@apache.org  on 
> > > October 26, 2017. I received the attached response from Apache conforming 
> > > receiving the document and has been filed. I also attached the original 
> > > signed SGA here. Please let me know if we need to submit additional 
> > > information.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Thomas. 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Thomas Huang 
> > > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software 
> > > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems 
> > > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology 
> > > (818) 354-2747  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 12/1/23, 2:08 PM, "Julian Hyde"  > >  > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy [1], and there are 4 red items 
> > > that need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are 
> > > allowed to see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working 
> > > on these.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Licensing
> > > * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> > > * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> > > * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> > > Naming
> > > * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Julian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1] 
> > > https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
> > >  
> > > [2] 
> > > https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
> > > *name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> > >> mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
> > >> LID> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > >> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks
> > >> 
> > >> Thomas
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Thomas Huang
> > >> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > >> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > >> (818) 354-2747
> > >> 
> > >> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  > >>  > wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > >> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > >> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > >> 
> > >> Best,
> > >> Nga
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  > >>  > wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion 
> > >> of graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > >> Over the past year or so, we've:
> > >> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > >> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, 
> > >> we should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > >> - 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

On it! Making notes of what I'm finding where, archiving URLs for searches and 
entries where possible.

On 2023/12/04 21:39:20 Julian Hyde wrote:
> You should document what you did, and what you discovered, in the Jira case. 
> Evidence that you have searched and found nothing will help get this to 
> approval. SDAP is an unusual name, so it’s no surprise to me that there are 
> few clashes.
> 
> > On Dec 4, 2023, at 9:08 AM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > Hey Julian,
> > 
> > I'm also starting up with a Podling Name Search, though I'm having 
> > difficulties with the USPTO search. I followed the syntax documented in [1] 
> > but was receiving syntax errors. I instead tried a field tag search for 
> > 'CM:SDAP' and 'CM:"Science Data Analytics Platform"' with no results, 
> > though I'm not certain if that's adequate. I also did searched: Canada 
> > trademarks, WIPO and EUIPO with some live matches for SDAP, but none that 
> > seem to conflict with us.
> > 
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#regsearch
> > 
> > On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> >> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items 
> >> that need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are 
> >> allowed to see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working 
> >> on these.
> >> 
> >> Licensing
> >> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> >> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> >> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> >> Naming
> >> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> >> 
> >> Julian
> >> 
> >> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> >> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> >>> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas Huang
> >>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> >>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> >>> (818) 354-2747
> >>> 
> >>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> >>> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> >>> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> >>> 
> >>> Best,
> >>> Nga
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion 
> >>> of graduating SDAP in earnest.
> >>> Over the past year or so, we've:
> >>> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> >>> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, 
> >>> we should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> >>> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> >>> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> >>> 
> >>> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> >>> there are any issues that are holding us back?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Riley
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Ok I updated sdap.xml to reflect the project's status as best I could.

- Added releases to the News section
- Updated table for mailing lists, source repos, mentors, and committers 
- Added dates in the Copyright and Verify distribution rights sections. 
(Replaced -..-.. with today's date)

It's been committed but I guess we have to wait for the data and sites to be 
rebuilt...

On 2023/12/04 21:36:47 Julian Hyde wrote:
> Thomas,
> 
> Thanks for looking into it. Sorry it was a false alarm. It’s likely that 
> those red flags exist because the incubation metadata is out of date. 
> 
> It’s worthwhile to spend the time updating the metadata. I believe the 
> following are the important files:
>  * 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml 
>  * 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/sdap.xml
>  
>  * https://incubator.apache.org/projects/sdap.html 
> 
> As far as I can tell, the name search still needs to be done. Maybe others 
> too.
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> 
> > On Dec 2, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Julian,
> > 
> > I searched my old email archive and found the original Software Grant I 
> > submitted to secret...@apache.org  on October 
> > 26, 2017. I received the attached response from Apache conforming receiving 
> > the document and has been filed. I also attached the original signed SGA 
> > here. Please let me know if we need to submit additional information.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas. 
> > 
> >  
> > Thomas Huang 
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software 
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems 
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology 
> > (818) 354-2747  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/1/23, 2:08 PM, "Julian Hyde"  >  > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> > need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> > see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> > 
> > 
> > Licensing
> > * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> > * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> > * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> > Naming
> > * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> > 
> > 
> > Julian
> > 
> > 
> > [1] 
> > https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
> >  
> > [2] 
> > https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
> > *name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >> mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
> >> LID> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> >> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> 
> >> Thomas
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thomas Huang
> >> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> >> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> >> (818) 354-2747
> >> 
> >> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  >>  > wrote:
> >> 
> >> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> >> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> >> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> Nga
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  >>  > wrote:
> >> 
> >> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> >> graduating SDAP in earnest.
> >> Over the past year or so, we've:
> >> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> >> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> >> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> >> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> >> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> >> 
> >> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> >> there are any issues that are holding us back?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Riley
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Julian Hyde]

You should document what you did, and what you discovered, in the Jira case. 
Evidence that you have searched and found nothing will help get this to 
approval. SDAP is an unusual name, so it’s no surprise to me that there are few 
clashes.

> On Dec 4, 2023, at 9:08 AM, Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> 
> Hey Julian,
> 
> I'm also starting up with a Podling Name Search, though I'm having 
> difficulties with the USPTO search. I followed the syntax documented in [1] 
> but was receiving syntax errors. I instead tried a field tag search for 
> 'CM:SDAP' and 'CM:"Science Data Analytics Platform"' with no results, though 
> I'm not certain if that's adequate. I also did searched: Canada trademarks, 
> WIPO and EUIPO with some live matches for SDAP, but none that seem to 
> conflict with us.
> 
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#regsearch
> 
> On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
>> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
>> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
>> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
>> 
>> Licensing
>> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
>> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
>> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
>> Naming
>> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
>>> marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas Huang
>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>> (818) 354-2747
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
>>> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
>>> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Nga
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
>>> graduating SDAP in earnest.
>>> Over the past year or so, we've:
>>> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
>>> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
>>> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
>>> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
>>> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
>>> 
>>> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
>>> there are any issues that are holding us back?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Riley
>> 
>> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Julian Hyde]

Thomas,

Thanks for looking into it. Sorry it was a false alarm. It’s likely that those 
red flags exist because the incubation metadata is out of date. 

It’s worthwhile to spend the time updating the metadata. I believe the 
following are the important files:
 * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings.xml 
 * 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/sdap.xml
 
 * https://incubator.apache.org/projects/sdap.html 

As far as I can tell, the name search still needs to be done. Maybe others too.

Julian



> On Dec 2, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Julian,
> 
> I searched my old email archive and found the original Software Grant I 
> submitted to secret...@apache.org  on October 
> 26, 2017. I received the attached response from Apache conforming receiving 
> the document and has been filed. I also attached the original signed SGA 
> here. Please let me know if we need to submit additional information.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thomas. 
> 
>  
> Thomas Huang 
> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software 
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems 
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology 
> (818) 354-2747  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/1/23, 2:08 PM, "Julian Hyde"   > wrote:
> 
> 
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> 
> Julian
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
>  
> [2] https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
> *name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$
>  
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>> mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
>> LID> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
>> but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> Thomas Huang
>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>> (818) 354-2747
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung >  > wrote:
>> 
>> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
>> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
>> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nga
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff >  > wrote:
>> 
>> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
>> graduating SDAP in earnest.
>> Over the past year or so, we've:
>> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
>> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
>> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
>> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
>> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
>> 
>> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
>> are any issues that are holding us back?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Riley
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

Hey Julian,

I'm also starting up with a Podling Name Search, though I'm having difficulties 
with the USPTO search. I followed the syntax documented in [1] but was 
receiving syntax errors. I instead tried a field tag search for 'CM:SDAP' and 
'CM:"Science Data Analytics Platform"' with no results, though I'm not certain 
if that's adequate. I also did searched: Canada trademarks, WIPO and EUIPO with 
some live matches for SDAP, but none that seem to conflict with us.

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#regsearch

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Hi Julian,

I searched my old email archive and found the original Software Grant I 
submitted to secret...@apache.org on October 26, 2017. I received the attached 
response from Apache conforming receiving the document and has been filed. I 
also attached the original signed SGA here. Please let me know if we need to 
submit additional information.

Thanks

Thomas. 

 
Thomas Huang 
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software 
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology 
(818) 354-2747  




On 12/1/23, 2:08 PM, "Julian Hyde" mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy [1], and there are 4 red items that need 
to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see this 
page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.


Licensing
* No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
* No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
* No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
Naming
* No Podling Name Search on file [2]


Julian


[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
 

 
[2] https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 
*name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$
 


> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>LID> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
> but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> Thomas Huang
> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> (818) 354-2747
> 
> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  > wrote:
> 
> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> 
> Best,
> Nga
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  > wrote:
> 
> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> graduating SDAP in earnest.
> Over the past year or so, we've:
> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> 
> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
> are any issues that are holding us back?
> 
> Thanks,
> Riley





--- Begin Message ---
Dear Thomas Huang,

This message acknowledges receipt of the following document, which has been 
filed in the Apache Software Foundation records:

  Software Grant from Jet Propulsion Laboratory

-- Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation

--- End Message ---

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Riley Kuttruff]

I think we should be good on the ASF Copyright Headers in our source releases. 
I recall taking care of that pre 1.0.0.

Do the Docker images we build count as release binaries? Otherwise, I think 
we've taken care of the chardet issue in our current 1.2.0 RC, though I think a 
more thorough audit of our dependencies may be warranted.

-Riley

On 2023/12/01 22:07:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
> I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
> need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to 
> see this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.
> 
> Licensing
> * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
> * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
> * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
> Naming
> * No Podling Name Search on file [2]
> 
> Julian
> 
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 
> 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on 
> > marketing, but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > Thomas Huang
> > Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> > Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> > (818) 354-2747
> > 
> > On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> > 
> > I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> > learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> > the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Nga
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> > 
> > As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> > graduating SDAP in earnest.
> > Over the past year or so, we've:
> > - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> > - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> > should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> > - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> > social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> > 
> > What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel 
> > there are any issues that are holding us back?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Riley
> 
> 

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Hi Julian

Could you send / point me the relevant form(s)? Our Software Release Authority 
is ready to sign.

Thanks

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Dec 1, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:

I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see 
this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.

Licensing
* No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
* No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
* No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
Naming
* No Podling Name Search on file [2]

Julian

[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
[2] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html*name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
 wrote:

Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
but it might be a good idea to update the official website.

Thanks

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:

I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!

Best,
Nga


On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
graduating SDAP in earnest.
Over the past year or so, we've:
- Successfully ran through the release process twice
- Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
- Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc

What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
are any issues that are holding us back?

Thanks,
Riley

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Thanks, Julian. I will look into the first item.

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Dec 1, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Julian Hyde  wrote:

I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see 
this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.

Licensing
* No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
* No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
* No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
Naming
* No Podling Name Search on file [2]

Julian

[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP404lX17SQ$
[2] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html*name-search__;Iw!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N4d7YJ0dzoPK0cgdeZWRIOWykSSnCF7-eZ5vwnxREAOjGFTl6dki4kapTMlYli0S8v5tOEuuXyVaPpo9AplNP437rLbTvg$

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
 wrote:

Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
but it might be a good idea to update the official website.

Thanks

Thomas


Thomas Huang
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
(818) 354-2747

On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:

I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!

Best,
Nga


On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:

As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
graduating SDAP in earnest.
Over the past year or so, we've:
- Successfully ran through the release process twice
- Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
- Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc

What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
are any issues that are holding us back?

Thanks,
Riley

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Julian Hyde]

I checked SDAP’s roster page on Whimsy  [1], and there are 4 red items that 
need to be done before graduation. I don’t know which of you are allowed to see 
this page, so I’ve pasted them below. Let’s start working on these.

Licensing
* No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed
* No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code
* No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues
Naming
* No Podling Name Search on file [2]

Julian

[1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/sdap
[2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#name-search 

> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed. It’s my 2023 Christmas wish. I know we are not big on marketing, 
> but it might be a good idea to update the official website.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> Thomas Huang
> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
> (818) 354-2747
> 
> On Nov 17, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Nga Chung  wrote:
> 
> I think we're ready to graduate. We've come a long way and have
> learned to follow the Apache Way for software releases. We're also in
> the process of deciding on an official SDAP logo!
> 
> Best,
> Nga
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:00 PM Riley Kuttruff  wrote:
> 
> As we work on the 1.2.0 release, I think we should begin our discussion of 
> graduating SDAP in earnest.
> Over the past year or so, we've:
> - Successfully ran through the release process twice
> - Improved our code to be compliant with ASF rules, and now, hopefully, we 
> should be free of any licensing issues with our dependencies
> - Further promoted SDAP within the scientific community through seminars, 
> social media, integration with ongoing projects, etc
> 
> What does the community think? Are we ready to graduate or do you feel there 
> are any issues that are holding us back?
> 
> Thanks,
> Riley

Re: [EXTERNAL] [DISCUSS] SDAP Graduation

[Huang, Thomas (US 398F)]

Thanks, Nga and all the Apache SDAP contributors. SDAP has certainly educated 
and transformed the Earth Science community on how to manage and analyze 
climate data on the cloud and on-prem that is affordable for a decade. It 
already has various infusions across the globe, especially within NASA. The 
technology is solid and ready to graduate. Let's get the ball rolling. You can 
read more about the Apache SDAP architecture in the recent Wiley AGU Special 
Publications Series

https://www.wiley.com/en-us/Big+Data+Analytics+in+Earth%2C+Atmospheric%2C+and+Ocean+Sciences-p-9781119467533

If you will be attending IGARSS 2023 this month in Pasadena, CA, we will have a 
presentation on the applications of Apache SDAP at the NASA Hyperwall.

Thanks

Thomas.

 
Thomas Huang 
Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software 
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology 
(818) 354-2747  




On 7/6/23, 10:38 AM, "Nga Chung" mailto:nch...@apache.org>> wrote:


Hi all,


Since our "steps to graduation" discussion back in October 2022 [1] we
have made a lot of progress.


- We've had two releases in the incubator so far, with two different
release managers.
- We've had active discussions in dev@.
- We've had constant traffic on GitHub.
- We've continued to add new committers & PPMC members.


The one remaining item identified during the 1.1.0 release are updates
to LICENSE and DISCLAIMER [2]. These changes have been made and will
be part of the next release.


After cutting the next release, I think we're ready to graduate to a
TLP. What does everyone think?


Thanks,
Nga


[1] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/ycd123y00p8bxxxb36701prdwp4sjy77__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!JZ2jDp9KUFrS_rgNZXYxcaSBxkYhL1WQwMZmX-rHXJSLEWPkqTVUXLhW9Nw8J3VHK1Q4IIzcpkFHPk4D0g3dflM$
 

 
[2] 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SDAP-460__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!JZ2jDp9KUFrS_rgNZXYxcaSBxkYhL1WQwMZmX-rHXJSLEWPkqTVUXLhW9Nw8J3VHK1Q4IIzcpkFHPk4DssJJFRg$