[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.3.1

2007-04-15 Thread Ceki Gulcu
April 15th, 2007 - Release of SLF4J 1.3.1 I am happy to annonce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.3.1. This release consists of a bug fix and a minor enhancement. Fixed a silly but nonetheless annoying bug where log request of level ERROR made through jcl104-over-slf4j would log

Re: [slf4j-dev] Adding TRACE level

2007-04-21 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Yes, it's really me. The fact that it took me merely 4 years may indicate otherwise, but only donkeys don't change their minds. :-) Boris Unckel wrote: Hi, is it really Ceki using this eMail account? :-) Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello All, Is there any opposition to adding the TRACE level

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.4.0

2007-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
May 16th, 2007 - Release of SLF4J 1.4.0 I am happy to annonce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.4.0. In response to many user requests over time, the TRACE level has been added to org.slf4j.Logger interface. Please also see the FAQ entry discussing the TRACE level at:

Re: [slf4j-dev] FATAL level

2007-06-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Lilianne, Sorry for not replying earlier. I don't believe there is strong demand for this level. Moreover, each level requires ten new methods to be added to the Logger interface which in turn need to be implemented in each binding which I am not too keen on doing. If you were using

Re: [slf4j-dev] Adding TRACE level

2007-06-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
, the addition of the TRACE level was a logical consequence. I hope this clarifies the matter, [1] http://marc.info/?t=11753572732r=1w=2 Endre Stølsvik wrote: Ceki Gulcu wrote Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:38:17 -0700: Hello All, Is there any opposition to adding the TRACE level in the next

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.4.1

2007-07-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
July 4th, 2007 - Release of SLF4J 1.4.1 I am happy to announce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.4.1. SLF4J now supports Mapped Diagnostic Contexts (MDC) as requested by Andy Gerweck and Steve Ebersole in bug 49. Fixed bug 53 as reported by Heinrich Nirschl. The public method

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.4.2

2007-07-12 Thread Ceki Gulcu
July 12th, 2007 - Release of SLF4J 1.4.2 I am happy to announce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.4.2. The log4j-over-slf4j module has been moved back into SLF4J. Originally, this module was part of SLF4J and was moved into logback due to the lack of MDC support in SLF4J. With

[slf4j-dev] Comments on slf4j-converter

2007-07-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Jean-Noel, I just had a look a your recent additions to slf4j-converter. It looks like we are on the verge of having a functional application, which is great news. Here are a number of comments listed in random order. - Logging not necessary Paradoxically, slf4j-converter should probably

Re: [slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.4.3

2007-08-20 Thread Ceki Gulcu
=${project.version}, org.slf4j.helpers;version=${project.version} Import-Package: org.slf4j.impl;version=${project.version} Better pull this out back and re-release 1.4.3 or fix it properly and release a 1.4.4. Jake On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:02:00 +0200 Ceki Gulcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[slf4j-dev] comments on SLF4J converter

2007-08-29 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Jean-Noel, I took the liberty of changing the indentation of slf4j-converter files according to the format set in $SLF4J/codeStyle.xml. Otherwise, I made a small change [1] in PatternWrapper taking advantage of Java 5 auto-boxing feature. I reorganized JCLMatcher code [2] so that related

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.0

2008-02-26 Thread Ceki Gulcu
February 26th, 2008 - Release of SLF4J 1.5.0 I am happy to announce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.5.0. A tool called SLF4J Migrator now ships with SLF4J. It can help you migrate your project using JCL or log4j to use the SLF4J API. This release fixes quite a number of bugs.

[slf4j-dev] testing, please ignore

2008-03-29 Thread Ceki Gulcu
The upgrade of mailman from version 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 went pretty horribly. Testing that things are in order again. Please ignore this message. -- Ceki Gülcü QOS.ch is looking to hire talented developers in Switzerland. If interested, please contact c e k i @ q o s . c h

[slf4j-dev] testing, please ignore

2008-03-29 Thread Ceki Gulcu
The upgrade of mailman from version 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 went pretty horribly. This message is to test that things are back in order again. Please ignore this message. -- Ceki Gülcü QOS.ch is looking to hire talented developers in Switzerland. If interested, please contact c e k i @ q o s . c h

[slf4j-dev] testing, please ignore

2008-03-29 Thread Ceki Gulcu
The upgrade of mailman from version 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 went pretty horribly. This message is to test that things are back in order again. Please ignore this message. -- Ceki Gülcü QOS.ch is looking to hire talented developers in Switzerland. If interested, please contact c e k i @ q o s . c h

Re: [slf4j-dev] [Bug 86] Add logging utility methods

2008-06-03 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Ralph, Have you seen the new Profiler implementation? I found it really useful. Regardless of whether its your version or the one in logback, I agree that placing such code in slf4j-extension (or whatever) instead of logback is a very good idea. Anyway, I'd be happy to look at your timing

Re: [slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.1

2008-06-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Niklas Gustavsson wrote: Will these new versions be pushed to the Maven central repository? The Maven central repo should pick up the artifacts in a few hours. In order to support JCL version 1.1.1, the jcl104-over-slf4j module was renamed as jcl-over-slf4j. SLF4J will no longer ship with

Re: [slf4j-dev] qos.ch

2008-06-22 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: Does anyone know what has happened to qos.ch and logback? The mailing list has been dead for days and the logback website went offline today. Hello Ralph, My apologies for the inconvenience. The machine hosting email and DNS for the qos.ch domain crashed. It has been

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1086 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src: main/java/org/slf4j/helpers test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-08-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
/MessageFormatterTest.java Thu Jul 31 22:51:04 2008 @@ -33,56 +33,59 @@ package org.slf4j.helpers; +import java.util.Arrays; + import org.slf4j.helpers.MessageFormatter; import junit.framework.TestCase; - /** * @author Ceki Gulcu - * + * */ public class MessageFormatterTest extends

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1086 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src: main/java/org/slf4j/helpers test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-08-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Jörn Huxhorn wrote: And I just found out that it would be more appropriate to use Arrays.deepToString((Object[]) o); in case of Object[]. Right, except that deepToString is JDK 1.5. Double yikes. -- Ceki Gülcü QOS.ch is looking to hire talented developers located in Switzerland to work on

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1086 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src: main/java/org/slf4j/helpers test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-08-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Jörn Huxhorn wrote: Damn, you are right! There's still a problem with your deeplyAppendParameter method: It's not handling recursive arrays yet. Yes, indeed. While this isn't a terribly realistic case it would cause a stack overflow at the moment. Take a look at the 1.5 implementation of

[slf4j-dev] SLF4J extensions, LoggerUtil, bug 86

2008-08-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Ralph, I just committed a modified version of your logging utility class in revision 1091 and 1092. The code is based LoggerUtil that you kindly attached to bug 86. As you can see there are several differences between LoggerUtil and what was committed. First, the class is called XLogger

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1086 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src: main/java/org/slf4j/helpers test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-08-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Jörn Huxhorn wrote: Are you serious? I was. I once heard a lecture on logging and the prof said that the main objective of any logging framework must be to not break the application it is logging. Absolutely. From this point of view - that I absolutely share - the quality of the slf4j

Re: [slf4j-dev] SLF4J extensions, LoggerUtil, bug 86

2008-08-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: Ceki Gulcu wrote: [snip] First, the class is called XLogger and it wraps an SLF4J logger provided during construction time. It follows that XLogger methods are no longer static. The downside to this is that it might result in a lot of unnecessary object construction

[slf4j-dev] [Fwd: Re: SLF4J extensions, LoggerUtil, bug 86]

2008-08-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
For info. -- Ceki Gülcü QOS.ch is looking to hire talented developers located in Switzerland to work on cutting-edge software projects. If you think you are qualified, then please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Thanks. See comments below. Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello Ralph, I just

Re: [slf4j-dev] slf4-ext JDK requirements WAS: svn commit: r1089

2008-08-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Jacob Kjome wrote: Yes, it doesn't make sense and no, it doesn't need to support JDK 1.3. Now, that does not makes sense. :-) -- Ceki Gülcü ___ dev mailing list dev@slf4j.org http://www.slf4j.org/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [slf4j-dev] fyi: taglib

2008-08-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Matt, If we assume that the taglib site resides under http://www.slf4j.org/taglib and that its files reside under $SLF4J_SITE/taglib, where $SLF4J_SITE/ represents the directory where the actual slf4j.org site files reside, then could easily reference the CSS and other slf4j.org files

Re: [slf4j-dev] Repost

2008-08-28 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev den 25-08-2008 22:18: If your are uncomfortable with incorporating XLogger in the instrumentation code, that's fine with me. However, if you are uncomfortable with XLogger by itself, regardless of instrumentation, then I welcome any

Re: [slf4j-dev] taglib

2008-09-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Matt, I also added a cronjob that automatically correct the permissions for the www-slf4j-taglib module. Cheers, Matt Humphreys wrote: Hi, a 0.1 release candidate of the slf4j taglib is available for download http://www.slf4j.org/taglib/ matt -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The

Re: [slf4j-dev] recent work on log4j

2008-09-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Thorbjørn, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: My Windows box needed to be reinstalled and it takes longer than expected to be fully back in business. This includes my logback/slf4j subscriptions. A crashing laptop? Sounds like fun. :-) I'd like to know which development

Re: [slf4j-dev] taglib

2008-09-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Matt, Matt Humphreys wrote: Hi, a 0.1 release candidate of the slf4j taglib is available for download http://www.slf4j.org/taglib/ That's a good start. You might also want to upload slf4j-taglib-0.1RC.jar and accompanying files to mvnrepo-slf4j-tablib so that people can declare

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.3

2008-09-12 Thread Ceki Gulcu
September 12th, 2008 - Release of SLF4J 1.5.3 I am happy to announce the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.5.3. Added a new module called slf4j-ext for slf4j-extensions. See its documentation for further details. Fixed bug 71 which was re-opened by Manfred Geiler. SLF4J loggers now

Re: [slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.3

2008-09-12 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello All, I will be unavailable for couple of weeks and did not wish to delay this release any further. Ceki Gulcu wrote: September 12th, 2008 - Release of SLF4J 1.5.3 [snip] -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch

Re: [slf4j-dev] [Fwd: FW: FW: New logging]

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
for this. -Original Message- From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:49 AM To: Goers, Ralph Subject: Re: FW: New logging Hi Ralph, Thank you for your input. I agree that having to declare both an xlogger and a logger is cumbersome

[slf4j-dev] Unit tests in slf4j-ext and Maven

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I'm trying to get unit tests up and running in Maven for the agent, but I am unfamiliar with the Maven way of doing things, so I'd appreciate some comments. I've figured out how to use the argLine tag to get -javaagent:foobar put in the right place of

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ralph Goers skrev: Thanks, I'm quite interested in this, but not only for entering and exiting but eventually for other logging as well. However, I wouldn't want it in all classes. I'd prefer to see additional configuration to define which classes

Re: [slf4j-dev] Unit tests in slf4j-ext and Maven

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I read up a bit on this. It appears that maven-surefire-plugin cannot both do unit tests and integration tests in the same life cycle (as far as I understood). Oh the joy of other peoples tools :) Maven is far from perfect. On a related note, the

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1165 - slf4j/trunk

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Any particular reason you wrote a Perl script instead of using the Ant Replace task? Here is the rationale. As the release manager, I am the only one who runs the script. The Ant equivalent of the script would not gain much except the dependency on Perl

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Does _log field refers to a logger named after the containing class? If so, you could enable/disable logging for each java class separately using the configuration mechanism provided in log4j/jul/logback. In other words, additional

Re: [slf4j-dev] Unit tests in slf4j-ext and Maven

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Frankly I just want to know to know when I was (one of the) responsible for the build breaking and when it was ok again. If the problem persists we'll tackle it. Also it confused me a bit in the beginning to see stack traces in the maven output, but

[slf4j-dev] slf4j test are now silent

2008-10-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, Thorbjørn has observed that slf4j test spewed a lot of garbage on the console. I just modified the various tests so that the unit test are silent. This has been done by - In slf4j-jdk14, setting the level of the root logger to OFF - In jcl-over-slf4j, replacing slf4j-simple by

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-03 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: I'd also like to point that XLogger.enter and exit() method use the TRACE level whereas LogTransformer uses DEBUG. A little consistency is in oder... Either both use TRACE or both should use DEBUG. Obviously, I prefer TRACE for this. Logging with flow tracing

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1155 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-03 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: XLogger just provides some basic extended methods in a standardized way. I would prefer that rather than use _log.debug you would use XLogger.entry as it makes filtering them easier. In our code we manually add entry, exit, caught, etc. to everything except simple

[slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-03 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, I'd like to soon cut a release for SLF4J 1.5.4. Here is the change summary. - Improvements to documentations as well as fix for packaging problems related to slf4j-ext module. - At initialization time, LoggerFactory will check that the version of the slf4j-binding matches that of

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-06 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Ralph, There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it done sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you? Ralph Goers wrote: It depends on how long you want to wait. I'm pretty sure I can get that documented by the end of the

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I asked earlier how you set up Eclipse to work with slf4j but did not get a clear answer. Do you just extract the files outside of eclipse and manually set up a complete build path? After checking out SLF4J, I invoke mvm eclipse:eclipse from the top-level

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Thank you. Yes, this works for me if I use maven 2.0.9 (the default maven on OS X 10.5 is 2.0.6), and imports well (but no slf4j-parent project, hmm). slf4j-parent produces a pom artifact (packaging type = pom). So it seems normal that slf4j-parent should

Re: [slf4j-dev] Appender synchronization

2008-10-14 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Sure, no worries. Ralph Goers wrote: Darn. Please ignore. Resending to the logback list. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch ___ dev mailing list dev@slf4j.org

Re: [slf4j-dev] mvn test on a non-Sun JVM

2008-10-14 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Thorbjørn, Why is Hudson the Extensible continuous integration engine relevant in relation with building slf4j or more precisely running mvn test? Cheers, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I did some research to see if I could run automated testing on a clean room JVM, but it turned out to

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-14 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Ralph, Any progress on this item? Ralph Goers wrote: Yes, that is fine with me. Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello Ralph, There is no hard deadline on the release, although I would like to get it done sometime this week, or early next week. Does that sound feasible to you? Ralph Goers

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-10-15 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Yes, it's definitely an error. It was fixed in revision 1188. Thank you Raplh. Ralph Goers wrote: In writing the doc I noticed that THROWING_MARKER and CATCHING_MARKER both have names of EXCEPTION and also are EXCEPTION_MARKERs, which also has a name of EXCEPTION. Is this an error? --

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1197 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2008-10-16 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Ralph, We use virtual email adresses which are quite involved to get right. I usually need 3 iterations. So I impersonated your svn id (rgoers) by clobbering your MD5-encoded password with my MD5-encoded password. I know mine password and do not know yours. When notifications go through,

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1199 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2008-10-16 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Ralph, Thank you for documenting the org.slf4j.ext package. My recent commit below brings changes in indentation which should be invisible to users. Otherwise, I added a reference to XLogger and XLoggerFactory in the javadocs. If you don't mind, I would like to change the indentation of

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.4

2008-10-16 Thread Ceki Gulcu
October 16th, 2008 - Release of SLF4J 1.5.4 I am happy to announce the the immediate availability of SLF4J version 1.5.4. This version corrects critical bugs. You are highly encouraged to upgrade to SLF4J version 1.5.4. The upgrade should pose no problems. Nevertheless, you might still want to

[slf4j-dev] Release of SLF4J 1.5.5

2008-10-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
October 17th, 2008 - Release of SLF4J 1.5.5 Version 1.5.5 comes less than 24 hours after release 1.5.4. We realized that the version check mechanism introduced in SLF4J 1.5.4 was inconsistent with the large size of SLF4J's installed user base. We cannot expect external SLF4J implementations to

Re: [slf4j-dev] Checkout error; svn: OPTIONS of '/repos': 403 Forbidden (https://svn.slf4j.org)

2008-10-23 Thread Ceki Gulcu
/pom.xml UbinderVersion.pl Aintegration/lib/slf4j-simple-INCOMPATIBLE.jar svn: Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to OPTIONS request for 'https://svn.slf4j.org/repos' So, currently I am a bit stuck. Please advise :) /Thorbjørn Ceki Gulcu skrev

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1211 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext

2008-10-23 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Why are you disabling printSummary for the tests? I am trying to avoid log blindness. Essentially I would like the complete output from maven to contain only information about stuff that failed

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I have been wondering what exactly it is that you are trying to do? Is it trying to establish a unit for CPU usage from which you can establish an upper bound for how long a given test may take? Something like that. By measure the time it takes to perform a

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: I have been wondering what exactly it is that you are trying to do? Is it trying to establish a unit for CPU usage from which you can establish an upper bound for how long a given test may take

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1210 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-api/src/test/java/org/slf4j/helpers

2008-10-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: Superficially. It looked to me as you were calibrating using a sort (due to the checkins handling the different algorithms in the Windows and Linux JVM's), which may or may not be relevant for logging performance as the operations done are different. The

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1219 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src/main/java/org/slf4j: agent instrumentation

2008-10-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello You can see the latest Continuum build results for SLF4J and logback at http://continuum.qos.ch/ You can register a new user (which is complicated because most of the links need to be massaged) or alternatively login as dev with password dev + 1, where + stands for append.

[slf4j-dev] Java agent

2008-11-13 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello, Looking at docs, I came across this: You MUST remember to have slf4j-api-1.5.6.jar explicitly provided to the program to be instrumented. If not, the one embedded in the slf4j-ext-1.5.6.jar library is used, and these classes cannot see the jars loaded later. (Empirically

Re: [slf4j-dev] 1.5.4?

2008-11-15 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Thorbjørn, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: What is your current estimate for the 1.5.6 release? I would like to get logback 0.9.12 out the door first. SLF4J 1.5.6 will come later, probably in December. /Thorbjørn -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible

Re: [slf4j-dev] New Class

2008-11-16 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Ralph, Ralph Goers wrote: I added a new class to slf4j-ext. Should I create a bug to track it? I don't see the normal maven changes.xml either so I guess that isn't part of the process? You can just document its addition in news.html. On a related note, the class I added has a

Re: [slf4j-dev] New Class

2008-11-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Optional means that the artifact is not exported transitively. It should not affect the compile or test class paths. Ok

Re: [slf4j-dev] New Class

2008-11-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Needles to say, the 'integration' module is part of SLF4J: http://svn.slf4j.org/viewvc/slf4j/trunk/ http://svn.slf4j.org/viewvc/slf4j/trunk/integration/ Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello Ralph, Thorbjørn, How about using the 'integration' module? It is designed for testing after all

[slf4j-dev] EXT as a top-level project, was: AS/400 specific logback project.

2008-11-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
ralph.goers @dslextreme.com wrote (on logback-dev mailing list): I am starting to wonder if ext should be a root directory for some subprojects. For example, AOP could be one subproject, utils another, AS400 a third. Then we wouldn't need to make the dependencies optional, but it will lead

[slf4j-dev] slf4j 1.5.6

2008-11-20 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, I'd like to release SLF4J 1.5.6 which corrects the long standing and very annoying bug 84 and its younger sibling bug 113. If you'd like to mention recent changes in news.html I invite you do so before tomorrow. Cheers, -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and

[slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-04 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, I am looking for a volunteer to mirror the logback svn repository using svnsync as explained in [1]. This mirror would be used to ease the load on our server (which is not very heavy) but most importantly act as a backup. Any volunteers? [1] http://tinyurl.com/7b24qu -- Ceki Gülcü

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-05 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Do you mean moving SLF4J's svn repository to sourceforge, or something else? Ralph Goers wrote: What about leveraging sourceforge? On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello all, I am looking for a volunteer to mirror the logback svn repository using svnsync as explained in [1

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-05 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Our infrastructure runs quite nicely. I am just trying to ensure that it will survive physical disaster. In exchange for backup service of our svn repository, we are willing respond in kind (act as a back up for a remote svn repository). As for SLF4J moving to Apache, it's just not worth the

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-05 Thread Ceki Gulcu
, this is your last chance to reconsider... Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: I am looking for a volunteer to mirror the logback svn repository using svnsync as explained in [1]. This mirror would be used to ease the load on our server (which

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Jukka, A daily sync would be fine but an hourly sync, if it's not too much of a hassle, would be even better. As an alternative and from what I understand, it seems that the svnsync sync command can be driven from the master repository. Thus, adding a post-commit hook would be quite

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-10 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Jukka, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: I guess that you'd svnsync initialize both repositories with a username and password of your choice and we'd proceed from there. OK. I now have a mirror of SLF4J at http://svn

Re: [slf4j-dev] svnb repository backup

2009-02-10 Thread Ceki Gulcu
After brief testing, svn synchronization seems to work well. I noticed that svn commits now take a little longer to complete, by say 5 seconds, which is quite acceptable. Intentionally setting a wrong address for synchronization did not affect the regular commit process which is quite

Re: [slf4j-dev] StaticMDCBinder but not IMDCFactory

2009-03-12 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Gunnar, MDC is by construction a class with static methods. I fail to see how IMDCFactory could be made to create a fixed and static class. It just does not make sense. Have you noticed the MDCAdapter interface? Cheers, Gunnar Wagenknecht wrote: Hi, I started implementing a native

Re: [slf4j-dev] StaticMDCBinder but not IMDCFactory

2009-03-13 Thread Ceki Gulcu
/faq.html#IllegalAccessError Gunnar Wagenknecht wrote: Ceki Gulcu schrieb: Hello Gunnar, MDC is by construction a class with static methods. I fail to see how IMDCFactory could be made to create a fixed and static class. It just does not make sense. Have you noticed the MDCAdapter interface

[slf4j-dev] [POLL] Requiring JDK 1.5 for SLF4J

2009-03-26 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, SLF4J users have been asking for varags support for a long time. See http://bugzilla.slf4j.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31 for more details. The plan is to add varags support in SLF4J version 1.6 to be released later this year, possibly in October 2009. The idea is extremely simple. We would

Re: [slf4j-dev] EventLogging (was Re: [logback-dev] RFC: LoggingEvent redesign)

2009-04-16 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: I figured the easiest way to discuss this was over code so I checked in the EventLogger classes. If it is OK I'll add documentation for it. Otherwise the classes can easily be reverted. Ralph Hello all, What is the current status on EventLogger and EventData classes?

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1306 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Ralph, I really like the changes you have made. JCL bashing is or was, as you correctly point out, mostly unhelpful. I am currently going through the manual making changes on my own. These changes will be committed shortly. Cheers, r...@slf4j.org wrote: Author: ravn Date: Thu Apr 16

[slf4j-dev] SLF4J documentation

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, With impetus given by Ralph Goers, the SLF4J documentation has been simplified and improved. The updated documentation should be especially helpful for new SLF4J users. If you find any part of the documentation unclear, please let us know. TIA, -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1307 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
See http://slf4j.org/faq.html#declared_static The official stance is that there is no official stance. :-) Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: c...@slf4j.org skrev: One notable exception is that the logger field is not static. I thought it was by mistake, but apparently it is deliberate. I

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1310 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/slf4j-ext

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
WTF? c...@slf4j.org wrote: Author: ceki Date: Fri Apr 17 15:05:40 2009 New Revision: 1310 Added: slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/slf4j-ext/ Log: Share project slf4j-ext into https://svn.slf4j.org/repos/slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext; -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1307 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: Is there any scenario to your knowledge where the logger lookup mechanism may be slow? No, it's never slow. However, some implementations are better than others. Am I right in assuming that the logback mechanism for looking up loggers is faster than in

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1306 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Ralph Goers wrote: Ceki, As much as I would like to take credit for this, r...@slf4j.org isn't me. No it isn't. I had user ids 'ravn' and 'rgoers' confused. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch

Re: [slf4j-dev] SLF4J documentation

2009-04-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
It was actually Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen and not Ralph who started the work on the documentation. Sorry for the confusion. Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello all, With impetus given by Ralph Goers, the SLF4J documentation has been simplified and improved. The updated documentation should

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1321 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-21 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Thorbjørn, Do you intend to pursue this effort on coloring? As this revision stands, I don't see the point... Put differently, it looks like a lot of effort for a meager result. WDYT? r...@slf4j.org wrote: Author: ravn Date: Sun Apr 19 02:23:53 2009 New Revision: 1321 Modified:

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-21 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Thorbjørn, Would you please elaborate on why you removed the section on built-in support in logback? Was it for reasons of principal or readability? r...@slf4j.org wrote: Author: ravn Date: Sat Apr 18 21:20:52 2009 New Revision: 1318 Modified:

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-21 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: The praise for logback sticked out as much as the putting down of JCL, as this is in the context of a platform neutral logging framework facade. I have to agree, having a separate section on logback stuck out. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic,

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1328 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src: main/java/org/slf4j/ext test/java/org/slf4j/dummyExt

2009-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: c...@slf4j.org skrev: Fewer eclipse warnings Would it be a reasonable goal that the code base compile without any Eclipse warnings at all? Reasonable yes, possible no. There are 5 warnings total in the project (all modules). Two in LoggerFactory about

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
wrote: Ceki Gulcu skrev: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote: As such I see no reason not to promote logback - you just need to communicate very clearly that you are advertising for some other software that happens to have been written by you. IMHO that is better than the official slf4j text

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1328 - in slf4j/trunk/slf4j-ext/src: main/java/org/slf4j/ext test/java/org/slf4j/dummyExt

2009-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
You can easily make maveninzed project eclipse-ready by launching the mvn eclipse:eclipse command. Once you do that, you just import into Eclipse the various SLF4J modules as eclipse projects. Once you have eclipse and maven installed, and SLF4J checked out, the mvn eclipse:eclipse procedure

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: I humbly disagree, and deserves credit for that feels more like boasting than providing neutral information (as you happen to have written both pieces of software AND the manual providing the link). Deserves credit is the term I used in an email. It is not

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1321 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: Please don't toppost. I was not aware that we had a posting policy. I'll revert it for now, and come back to it later. I found that Bruce Eckell uses it in his book Thinking in C++ so there is at least another author I can locate who use it :) After

Re: [slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1331 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

2009-04-30 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: For people who come to slf4j and do not already know about the subject it is a steep learning curve. Apparently even intentionally... The intention is obviously not to annoy users on purpose. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible

Re: [slf4j-dev] Re quest for a log message processing hook.

2009-05-26 Thread Ceki Gulcu
SLF4J offers very little in terms of functionality beyond the abstraction of logging frameworks. I should have mentioned that it does on so on purpose. The message interceptor functionality is not aligned with that minimalistic philosophy. In short, there very little chance for the interceptor

Re: [slf4j-dev] Request for a log message processing hook.

2009-05-26 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: But enough technicalities. I'd much rather that you provide specific detail on what it is you want to solve, and why it cannot be done within the current functionality? It would be interesting to hear about the problem he is trying to solve but ultimately

Re: [slf4j-dev] Request for a log message processing hook.

2009-05-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote: Naturally. Often people who ask a question have gotten stuck on solving a problem in a specific way, and ask about how to do the specific way. Knowing about the underlying problem may allow an alternate approach which may even happen to work better (if at

Re: [slf4j-dev] Why no error(Throwable) on the Logger interface?

2009-05-27 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello Robert, As Jukka's mail indicates, the modification you suggest is not necessarily for the better. I personally tend to agree with Jukka. There are probably others who would be more inclined to agree with your position. However, even in cases where we all agree on the merits of a change,

Re: [slf4j-dev] Re quest for a log message processing hook.

2009-05-28 Thread Ceki Gulcu
ogradyjd wrote: I think I may have glossed over a major point in what I need to do. The logging system has to continue working as it does now, with no knowledge that the log message stream is being forked. One of the major problems I'm trying to get around is that the log files and

Re: [slf4j-dev] Why no error(Throwable) on the Logger interface?

2009-05-28 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Jukka Zitting wrote: Anyway, what I was trying to say is that you can typically get away with less detailed log messages when you have access to the source code (and understand it, e.g. you known how the controller in your example it works) and detailed logging metadata (thread names, line

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