Re: Mass Package Change: Turn deprecated %patchN syntax into %patch -PN

2024-05-14 Thread Björn Persson
es appear in the package. I think removing that ability would be an improvement, but that's how it currently is. Any changes made by %check outside of %{buildroot} should not affect the binary package though. Björn Persson pgp_7oqqyGrq5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: mdadm Update in Rawhide

2024-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
package does that: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nginx/blob/8b7ceb13dd13cd18b9603872b2b5611be2d60029/f/nginx.spec#_253 This pull request would improve gpgverify to accept multiple key files, so you wouldn't need to concatenate them: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/pull-reques

Re: "fedpkg local" builds fail for rust packages

2024-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
problematic. I'll just state my strong opinion that packages that aren't meant for software development should not have "-devel" in their names. Björn Persson pgp42QTPCqdJp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
(And Firefox which just has to be different, but that has nothing to do with desktops or widget libraries as far as I can see.) Björn Persson pgp3XcsfmYYXs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Björn Persson
blindly trust the Git repository or the Github-generated tarballs. Björn Persson pgp8nUs2fpGPZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorapr

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Björn Persson
access to their secret OpenPGP key, their Github account, and probably all of their other credentials. Björn Persson pgpcAJciGABWI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Non-responsive maintainer landgraf for package aunit.

2024-03-28 Thread Björn Persson
Pavel Zhukov wrote: > I see you have received review of the MR . Emails have been answered by > Bjorn too. If you don't have time to maintain Aunit, then please give me or Dennis access to the package so we can take care of it. Björn Persson pgpFCmfiDkSCT.pgp Description: OpenPGP d

Re: do we need CONFIG_UPROBES=y in our kernels?

2024-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
tion, rendering the enclaves useless. The solution is to consider security before you rent other people's computers, and keep secrets and sensitive data on your own hardware. Björn Persson pgpojY8pw6hQR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Björn Persson
than X. For *their* usecases, not only for yours. Björn Persson pgpK3GbmW35Af.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

Re: Mass rebuild: git push --no-verify

2024-01-18 Thread Björn Persson
een reverted manually in the meantime. The mass-revert script would need to verify that it reverts only commits done by the defective mass-rebuild script. If that's nontrivial to get right, then it seems to me that there is value in a hook that validates changes made by a script. Björn Persson pgppk

Re: side-tag with GCC 14.0.1 snapshot for Fedora 40

2024-01-16 Thread Björn Persson
(such as packages depending on Ada which like every year bumped > sonames of its shared libraries), please do so soon. Thanks for the side-tag. Most of the Ada packages – those that I have access to – are now rebuilt if I did everything right. The rebuild went smoothly this time. Björn Persso

Re: Intention to tighten RPM crypto-policy back

2023-09-26 Thread Björn Persson
malware into Fedora through your packages. It is your duty to take security seriously as long as you have commit privileges to any Fedora packages. Björn Persson pgpF1As1bgQjX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@list

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-31 Thread Björn Persson
onably with any and all attacks. Björn Persson pgpwa7vJgc1mo.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: Potential (security) issue for beginners/non-experts when release is End Of Life: Fedora doesn’t consider the behavior of beginners/non-experts sufficiently

2023-08-13 Thread Björn Persson
eive security updates? Notifying the user only if they're a member of the wheel group seems like a reasonable default. Björn Persson pgpfQSwgSW2hh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Björn Persson
ore I found out about those vulnerabilities. If the firmware files are properly authenticated, then I think notifications about firmware updates should be enabled on all installations. Björn Persson pgpR2_bpFfGGv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2023-07-19 Thread Björn Persson
Bob Mauchin wrote: > I'm currently assessing what is needed by our binaries packages and will > take packages needed that have been orphaned. Thank you! I was getting really worried that Restic would drop out and I'd have to design a new backup solution yet again. Björn P

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
Looking at the screenshot, I wonder what percentage of users will read "Privacy", see that all the switches are on, and click "Next" in the belief that all the privacy features are on. Björn Persson pgp2ZQzLUmMNa.pgp Description: Open

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
d you intend to call that "consent". It's a popular tactic to make people "agree" to things without knowing it. Björn Persson pgpRT0A1SqC4E.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedo

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
tween the Gnome that once was and the very different thing that took over the name "Gnome". Björn Persson pgpdVGkitXcGu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
, then the change proposal needs to be amended. Björn Persson pgpgswP8SfU23.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-01 Thread Björn Persson
pts should begin with that to clear any attributes that may have been left behind by a broken program. (Try "echo -e '\e[8m'" and see if it hides your prompt.) Björn Persson pgp_JLupc3tON.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: How to deal with sysusers files inside the package

2023-06-30 Thread Björn Persson
should allow an upstream sysusers file to work in all cases, if I understand correctly. If your package currently works, then I suggest waiting until the RPM integration is done before you change how user accounts are created. Björn Persson pgpBEXmS0YDu0.pgp Description:

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-06-01 Thread Björn Persson
4, then you and your peer will both be unable to connect to each other. If globally routable IPv4 addresses are available on the network where you are, then you'll want one so that your peer can at least connect to you. Users of peer-to-peer programs will want to configure their DHCP client to request an

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
prompt is configured in a completely different place than the background, and separately on each server, the prompt must be readable by default on both light and dark backgrounds. Björn Persson pgprqT_maxZDz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
the shell unusable minimal. Björn Persson pgpqIGrB30kK8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
because GCC outputs filenames in uncolored bold text, so even a bold prompt would blend in among the compilation errors. Björn Persson pgpo0PYGOraT4.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: C-specific compiler parameters (was: Update on Changes/PortingToModernC)

2023-05-10 Thread Björn Persson
Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:09:10AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > I am going to explore a way to land -Werror=implicit-int > > > -Werror=implicit-function-declaration among the default compiler flags. > > &g

C-specific compiler parameters (was: Update on Changes/PortingToModernC)

2023-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
d for Ada” over and over. It doesn't break any builds but it's annoying noise in the build logs. It would be better if __global_compiler_flags would contain only language-independent parameters, and language-specific parameters were added in build_cflags and build_cxxflags. Björn Persson pg

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
Aurelien Bompard wrote: > do you mind opening a ticket on FMN's tracker please? Done: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues/901 Björn Persson pgpwJ54yOnOQ8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- de

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-05-01 Thread Björn Persson
Web calm when the ability to stop GIF animations was removed from Firefox. That's still relevant in places, but these days the greatest advantage of Seamonkey is that I don't have to relearn how to do things each time Firefox's user interface gets reshuffled. Björn Persson pgpwD6uQ_jvxV.pgp

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Björn Persson
t and remember when I have to start the browser for demanding Javascript programs and when I can use the browser with the stable and sensible user interface. Björn Persson pgpIB3pZw10sf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-26 Thread Björn Persson
ed to run it, then? Björn Persson pgpmhakqztAuR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > We could probibly come up with some > > > better way to start new topics/discussions > > > > Yes I think I can come up with a better way.

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
e Discourse developers like, as long as it's at most 64 bytes and adheres to the dot-atom-text syntax in RFC 5322. Björn Persson pgpWVzBgAke8P.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
gins with whitespace, which it looks like it does. Folding is even recommended for lines longer than 78 characters. Programs that parse email are supposed to unfold folded lines. The complexities of text-based protocols provide for so much fun! Björn Persson pgp9IXcpXeGMk.pgp D

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
if those new topics can't be sent to a mailing-list-equivalent, but just end up in some sort of "other" bucket, then it seems useless anyway. Björn Persson pgpcbyFcDPtSX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel ma

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
n with Discourse should work on improving its email capabilities until it can be used as a list server. Björn Persson pgpUVt9_aKC4f.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Auto-assign packager sponsors to tickets?

2023-04-04 Thread Björn Persson
ad three myself, but they depended on each other so one specific package had to go first. A beginner with multiple independent packages, such that they can be reviewed and imported in arbitrary order, is probably an uncommon case. Björn Persson pgpl

Re: RFC: No koji builds during mass branching and updates-testing enablement

2023-03-09 Thread Björn Persson
What will packagers see? Will builds be queued, and get processed when the lock is released? Will build attempts be rejected with a clear explanation? "You can't build while we're branching. Please try again later." Or will packagers start asking why they get an incomprehensible stac

Re: fedpkg: Failed to get repository name from Git url or pushurl -> %build

2023-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
line has no special meaning. A section continues until the next section begins. Björn Persson pgpmzB0onHLYx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lis

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
to set a security flag on the update after the fact, but nobody will bother with that. I would therefore advise against using --security. If one can't install all the updates continuously, then one should use a more stable distribution than Fedora. Björn Persson pgp_GPr1Z148d.pgp Description: Op

Re: Update on SPDX license id adoption in Fedora

2023-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
We have been implementing labels in the Fedora License Data repo to help > indicate what is needed next. Nothing notifies me about changes to labels, so they don't work as reminders that there's more work to do, but they have some value as confirmation that the next step in the procedure is what I thin

Re: HyperKitty broken References and In-Reply-To headers

2023-02-22 Thread Björn Persson
y to reply to Kenneth, Hyperkitty seems to think the line break is part of the message ID, which results in that invalid syntax. That's just one example of how difficult it is to write a correct email parser. It's even a rather simple case compared to the monstrosities that are allowed

Re: F38 proposal: IPP-USB as a weak dependency of CUPS and sane-airscan (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > On 1/16/23 12:31, Björn Persson wrote: > > Robert Marcano via devel wrote: > >> The admin can implement CUPS > >> authentication but an ipp://localhost:6 open port entirely open to > >> anyone on the local machine to submi

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
ilename it gets the version number from, it would be easy to run rpm --query --provides --file | grep --quiet ^$ except that people keep saying that package builds shouldn't invoke RPM for some reason. Is there a way to do the above without actually invoking RPM? Björn Persson pgpM_h8XhTJd4.pgp Descr

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-18 Thread Björn Persson
that hadn't. If they fail to do that correctly, will their package become uninstallable due to unsatisfiable dependencies, or will it just get normal unversioned dependencies on those libraries that don't provide a version number? That should also be explained in the change proposal. B

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-18 Thread Björn Persson
ideal of reproducible builds? Yes I can find some of the answers elsewhere. I shouldn't need to go searching for answers. They should be available in the change proposal. Björn Persson pgpsKLzLivnaq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel m

Spec file encoding (was: fedpkg: Failed to get repository name from Git url or pushurl)

2023-02-16 Thread Björn Persson
rest of us in the Fedora project, then you'll need to handle UTF-8 in spec files. Sooner or later you'll encounter some non-ASCII characters. You may need to tell Emacs to read and write spec files as UTF-8, or you may need to fix your locale. Run "locale" to check. Going b

Re: Bootstrapping package with circular dependencies in koji

2023-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
alls it "Set tag extra option". I would not have guessed that an "extra option" would transform into an RPM macro, nor that a "_with_" prefix would need to be added. Björn Persson pgpCIAUkIr_UN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur _

Re: FYI... yubioath-desktop is slated to be removed from F38 repository

2023-01-19 Thread Björn Persson
y-manager-qt-will-no-longer-be-available-in-fedora-repository/45921/6 And that's such a fancy modern Javascript program that it can't even be scrolled in a browser with a stable user interface. Wonderful. Björn Persson pgpjS66OatxDZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digi

Re: SPECfiles - conditionals with EOLed Fedora releases - any value in keeping them ?

2023-01-19 Thread Björn Persson
t's not like something will break if the conditional isn't removed in time. Björn Persson pgpCf1F7Tm7T3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel

Re: GCC 13 broke 50 packages requiring libgnat-12.so() and libgnarl-12.so()

2023-01-17 Thread Björn Persson
de and then tag them all in at the end. So as things stand, these rebuilds need to be done by a human who knows the dependency graph. Björn Persson pgp90fUD1Km8D.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: GCC 13 broke 50 packages requiring libgnat-12.so() and libgnarl-12.so()

2023-01-17 Thread Björn Persson
er, and that's not how the mass rebuild does it. I'd be willing to cooperate to do the rebuild in a side tag, but I can't promise to always be available at a moment's notice. Björn Persson pgpUnwuNn9UUD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: F38 proposal: IPP-USB as a weak dependency of CUPS and sane-airscan (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-01-16 Thread Björn Persson
ttitude to security I've seen from CUPS before, I won't be surprised if they just assume that someone else will protect them from DNS rebinding attacks. Björn Persson pgpUOI2iQT6TU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel ma

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-28 Thread Björn Persson
s there some competition to produce the most textless user interface? Björn Persson pgpAmFa7dbrFg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedor

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-27 Thread Björn Persson
eliably. I see no big eye-catching warning that such-and-such must be smaller than x bytes. Björn Persson pgpHBtrq05hJe.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-22 Thread Björn Persson
said "byte-swapped" it would probably have gotten me searching in the right direction, but if the X server wants to be helpful it should say "big/little-endian mismatch; the option AllowSwappedClients is off". Björn Persson pgptXffOuQJrN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatu

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
never, because I have way too much to do already. Apparently there is no such tool and no plan to provide one, because surely that would have been mentioned under "User Experience". Björn Persson pgpMf3pOAD4my.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur __

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > > Switching the whole distro over to unified kernels quickly is not > > > realistic though. Too many features are depending on the current > > > workflow with a host-specific in

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-20 Thread Björn Persson
mand line for configuration. I note that taking away the kernel command line is indeed a clearly stated goal, which will limit Fedora to simple, appliance-like uses. If any of what I wrote above misrepresents the change owner's intentions, then the change proposal is badly written and needs rewor

Re: Question about git signed tags

2022-11-29 Thread Björn Persson
larger. I can't believe that Git wouldn't be 8-bit-clean. Björn Persson pgpo03OQ_8sm5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Question about git signed tags

2022-11-29 Thread Björn Persson
s when the upstream developer signed it. With Git I don't know how we could avoid unpacking the repository archive before we verify the signed tag. As to why the builders lack Internet access, I wasn't around when that was decided but it helps ensure that the source RPM packages actually con

Some help with creating a group in a scriptlet please?

2022-10-31 Thread Björn Persson
systemd-sysusers in a suitable scriptlet between the two packages? Björn Persson pgpnWcdiZTdIt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: Ridiculous new Red Hat Bugzilla password security requirements

2022-10-14 Thread Björn Persson
need to limit its length. Can't you find some actual problem to be angry over? Björn Persson pgpxgPVGDFVi5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an emai

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-30 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Considering that we have been shipping these hardware codec interfaces for > years without any legal trouble, I find this absolutely ridiculous. The entire codec patent business is absolutely ridiculous. Such is the reality we must live in. Björn P

Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-09-01 Thread Björn Persson
" and more "here's how I'd fix it, > though"! Quoting myself, here's how I'd fix it: Björn Persson wrote: > Rather than hiding the intelligible words in mouseover boxes, it would > be better to write them directly on the screen instead of the icons. That's clearly not ho

Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-27 Thread Björn Persson
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I think it > is important to remember that the page is _supposed_ to be "dense". > It is intended to pack a lot of information into a small area It leaves plenty of empty space on my screen. It seems to prioritize aesthetics over informat

Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-26 Thread Björn Persson
nice to have consistent terminology, but hey, we can always click on everything and explore. The gear icon is also misleading. It alludes to machinery in motion, so it suggests a menu of commands to do things, rather than options or settings. There is a wrench icon that would be a good symbol for settings, but th

Re: Important changes to software license information in Fedora packages (SPDX and more!)

2022-07-31 Thread Björn Persson
say how they may be combined? Are we supposed to write "GPL-3.0-or-later AND GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-3.0-or-later AND GPL-3.0-only" or do those still combine into GPL-3.0-only? Björn Persson pgpfYcfegWXWG.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: Change proposal: make Change proposals more obvious

2022-04-28 Thread Björn Persson
nge proposal)" Once you write "proposal", the word "change" becomes rather redundant. What proposal doesn't propose any kind of change? If somebody doesn't want to change anything, they won't write a proposal. Björn Persson pgp8oCG3kFb03.pgp Description:

Re: verifying signature for a package

2022-04-17 Thread Björn Persson
confusing. Björn Persson pgpTL5tFH4atr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedorapr

Re: verifying signature for a package

2022-04-17 Thread Björn Persson
ho signed the Xfontsel tarball. Once you have the key, remember to pass all three parameters to gpgverify: --keyring, --signature and --data. Björn Persson pgpcFSmHuVaks.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-15 Thread Björn Persson
an example of a user who is dissatisfied with UEFI for some reason, and wants to boot in BIOS mode instead. Dropping BIOS-boot support from Fedora would presumably not make that person any happier. Björn Persson pgpTOibEFEGtI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-15 Thread Björn Persson
t that takes much longer than ten years nowadays. Björn Persson pgpZ7ENGcIhpJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Cod

Re: GNOME Online Accounts "Fedora" - Pre-authentication failed

2022-04-08 Thread Björn Persson
requires authentication, if the previous ticket has expired. Don't ask for authentication just for the sake of renewing a ticket when the user is doing something else. That would teach users dangerous habits. Björn Persson pgpkW8N6aTay3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: GNOME Online Accounts "Fedora" - Pre-authentication failed

2022-04-08 Thread Björn Persson
factor. In that case a TOTP seed stored in a Yubikey becomes a third factor. Björn Persson pgpBJJfbjJHPN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
dangerous to let known security holes accumulate. Björn Persson pgpzXxjDRbutY.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
I use this laptop to develop and test performance measurement tools. It handles build jobs, testsuites and virtual machines just fine. The days when a three-year-old computer was too slow to be useful are long gone. Björn Persson pgp52J6uYF2PH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital si

Re: Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)

2022-03-16 Thread Björn Persson
around by temporarily adding "SHA1" to /etc/crypto-policies/back-ends/nss.config. Björn Persson pgpQmPo25Lqfu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kamil Dudka wrote: > There seems to be demand for libcurl with IDN support on minimal Fedora > installations, so I created a pull request to enable it in libcurl-minimal: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/curl/pull-request/13 Thank you. Björn Persson pgp2ZEu96gtIM.pgp

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
I had a private mirror, but I don't. For downloading files from a command line, my habit is to use Wget, so I guess I'm dodging that bullet. Björn Persson pgpBhrzmDJc5Y.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list --

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
e is also waiting for everybody else. This is the same deadlock that hampers IPv6, encrypted email and many other things. Everybody's waiting for everybody else to move first. Björn Persson pgp90R61gv1GJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ de

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-02-22 Thread Björn Persson
curl-minimal suited only for programs that only communicate with a predefined set of servers in ASCII-only domains. Any program that accepts user-provided URLs will need curl-full to be able to handle arbitrary domain names, even if the program speaks only HTTPS, HTTP and FTP. Björn Persson pgp4a

2FA (was: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains)

2022-02-21 Thread Björn Persson
f retyping. (Still not as good as U2F of course.) Björn Persson pgpxs9kMwtLFb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

2FA (was: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains)

2022-02-20 Thread Björn Persson
Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > Security keys are the only form of 2fa that is immune to > phishing attacks. U2F and FIDO2 are said to be immune to phishing. HOTP, TOTP and various proprietary challenge-respone protocols are not immune. Björn Persson pgp_7IhtLa4JI.pgp Description: OpenPGP d

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

2022-02-20 Thread Björn Persson
Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 19/02/22 19:38, Björn Persson ha scritto: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> I think it'd be better to check the status weekly and only require > >> account reconfirmation if the quarantine status is detected ⌊N / 7 - 1⌋ &

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

2022-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
he domain is released for registration. Let's just not make it so tight that a little unscheduled downtime can open an attack window. Björn Persson pgpqiv4u1U4Nr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapr

Preventing account takeovers through expired domains (was: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users)

2022-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
iably prevent this kind of attack. I hope this explanation is clear enough to be understood. In case of TL;DR, the short version is four posts upthread from here. So, does step 3 exist? Björn Persson pgpPIYU3U_oGq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-16 Thread Björn Persson
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 15/02/2022 19:43, Björn Persson wrote: > > The packager would then be required to authenticate with their existing > > credentials – or prove their identity in some way that does not rely on > > ownership of the email address – and se

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-15 Thread Björn Persson
nd set a new email address in their account. Entering the old email address again would be allowed, in case they have recovered the domain, but they would have to prove that they can receive a confirmation message regardless of whether the new address is the same as the old address. B

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-11 Thread Björn Persson
Ben Cotton wrote: > I would support removing the 113 who don't exist in Koji. If they have been that way for a long time, I suppose. Don't cause additional hurdles for newcomers just because their first review takes a while. Björn Persson pgp11SGC3hJR2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signa

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-11 Thread Björn Persson
. Thus an open Bugzilla ticket is no indication that the package is unmaintained. You need to check what version is actually in Rawhide. If the Bugzilla tickets should in fact not be left open, then they should be automatically closed just like they're automatically opened. Björn Persson pgpBscep

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-17 Thread Björn Persson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2041667 Björn Persson pgpaayNBpxRq6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

Re: New tool - license-validate

2021-12-27 Thread Björn Persson
Miroslav Suchý wrote: > $ license-validate-v'GPL or (MIT and BSD)' >     No terminal defined for 'G' at line 1 col 1 Approximately nobody will understand "No terminal defined for 'G'". Can the error message be improved? Björn Persson pgp5AIXhmHYUH.pgp Description: OpenPGP

Re: new systemd in rawhide

2021-12-10 Thread Björn Persson
or similar, please make sure that you install those libraries too if > appropriate. Was "not" supposed to be "now"? Otherwise these statements don't make sense together. Björn Persson pgpz2V_ix2CZt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur __

Re: F36 Change: Make Rescue Mode Work With Locked Root (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-09 Thread Björn Persson
ue mode, then maybe Grub could be programmed to require a passphrase before it will boot that entry? Björn Persson pgp1LnefA7iK9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: F36 Change: Make Rescue Mode Work With Locked Root (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-09 Thread Björn Persson
uld also by default require root's or a wheel user's passphrase before boot parameters can be changed. That is consistent. Björn Persson pgpcT9reGtFmi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: F36 Change: Make Rescue Mode Work With Locked Root (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-08 Thread Björn Persson
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Björn Persson said: > > Chris Adams wrote: > > > If the admin has done one thing to lock down the system, then they can > > > do another (removing the sulogin --force addition). > > > > How do you propose

Re: F36 Change: Make Rescue Mode Work With Locked Root (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-07 Thread Björn Persson
is new release of this particular distribution they need to run this special command to prevent boot problems from granting root access to whoever can type on the keyboard. Björn Persson pgpUpKi2TnP15.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-04 Thread Björn Persson
rized? Do I disable FS-verity for that specific file? Disable FS-verity globally? Add my own key to the kernel's keyring? Build and sign my own RPM package? What prevents an attacker from doing the same? Will files under /etc be covered, or will local configuration still be possible? Björn Persson pgp

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