On 6/12/20 7:10 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
* Ty Young [12/06/2020 05:50] :
So, could anything be done about any of this?
I would propose that we keep discussions not related to the development
of Fedora off the devel@ mailing-list.
Hi,
Some of the comments mentioned in my article took
On 6/12/20 6:33 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2020-06-12 at 05:50 -0500, Ty Young via desktop-devel-list
wrote:
So, could anything be done about any of this?
You said you were leaving 8 months ago:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/1661#note_609870
I think it might
Hi all,
Gnome recently has stirred up controversy lately and aren't taking other
people's opinions very well, to say the least. So far they've locked
three threads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/gz6fks/we_must_all_speak_up/
On 5/20/20 9:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology.
Hi Ty. Thank you for this. When we're passionate about something, it's easy
to get frustrated and upset, and easy for that to get out
Hi,
I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology.
I feel like some good people where caught in the crossfire who were
never intended to be with my words. I do not believe it to be true nor
was it intended to be taken as "all Linux distros and their software
maintainers are evil". I
On 5/18/20 8:24 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Dude, chill out. We're not going to go back to running X as root. The
Nvidia overclocking tool is just not important at all (seriously, who
cares?). If you're upset their proprietary software doesn't work
anymore, you can ask them nicely to fix
On 5/18/20 7:08 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 06:03:16PM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
Willing to bet you or anyone else here won't.
FYI, this applies to you as well.
You just proved my point:
>If it was Open Source and we were having this discussion, people like
yours
On 5/18/20 2:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/18/20 7:27 AM, Ty Young wrote:
The application was an Nvidia GPU overclocking utility written in
Java. When Fedora decided to disable running X. Org as root, it
resulted in the application no longer being able to adjust GPU/Memory
clocks, among
On 5/18/20 9:14 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:34 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 5/18/20 7:35 AM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote:
My software didn't magically break just for Fedora because of some bug
in my software. It broke because Fedora decided they wanted to do
something
On 5/18/20 8:34 AM, Ty Young wrote:
...and there are plenty of Open Source projects that don't have
packages yet people contribute to them. This isn't the early 2000 when
barely anyone has internet and sites like Github didn't exist. Sure, a
distro package increases visibility still
On 5/18/20 7:35 AM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote:
Le lundi 18 mai 2020 à 14:12 +0200, Michal Srb a écrit :
Hello,
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 11:24 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Le vendredi 15 mai 2020 à 08:30 -0700, stan via devel a écrit :
On Fri, 15
On 5/14/20 7:37 AM, Igor Raits wrote:
*big snip*
I feel like the context of that whole email has been lost. It was merely
a long list of reasons why "just package software for dozens of distros"
isn't an viable answer in response to the other person's claim. Fedora
is a bit of an exception
On 5/14/20 6:42 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 06:33:47AM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
Whichever you choose. Large projects like Gnome and Fedora refer to
themselves as one large organization one minute and then as individuals the
next. It reminds me of how everyone says "
On 5/13/20 4:58 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 04:04:50PM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
Anyway, I'm just asking that Fedora not repeat what Debian did. While
I find it to be a bit paranoid, I understand the concerns regarding
someone sneaking in malware into pre-build binaries. I'm
On 5/14/20 4:53 AM, Michal Srb wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:57 PM Felix Schwarz
mailto:fschw...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:
> Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I
suppose I
> should ha
On 5/13/20 4:16 PM, James Cassell wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Ty Young wrote:
On 5/13/20 12:04 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
Ty Young writes:
On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:
Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up
On 5/13/20 12:04 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
Ty Young writes:
On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:
Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I
suppose I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any
confusion, it was aimed
On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:
Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I suppose I
should have been more clear there. Sorry for any confusion, it was aimed at
the Fedora project as a whole as this is a Fedora issue
On 5/12/20 5:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:34 PM Ty Young wrote:
Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I suppose
I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any confusion, it was
aimed at the Fedora project as a whole as this is a Fedora
On 5/12/20 3:48 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 12.05.20 um 10:35 schrieb Ty Young:
JUST PACKAGE THE PRE-COMPILED BUILDS!!!
Don't take me as rude but this is not possible.
This is documented in Fedora's packaging policies:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/what-can
On 5/12/20 2:50 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
What about packaging gradle instead? (In the cases I looked into,
porting from gradle to maven would be rewriting the build system from
scratch. Assuming that we have tens and will have hundreds of packages
with gradle, in the long term it seems better
On 4/30/20 7:37 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:42 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 4/29/20 8:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
Sure, that's valid. Although for installations contained to just
Fedora content, the upgrade from release to release has been downright
boring (that's a good thing
On 4/29/20 8:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
Sure, that's valid. Although for installations contained to just
Fedora content, the upgrade from release to release has been downright
boring (that's a good thing). It's almost equivalent to a reboot.
Perhaps there are other reasons, like some third
On 4/23/20 12:00 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 05:22:01PM +0100, Stephen Coady wrote:
Hi,
Development work has begun on the API which will give applications access
to the new AAA solution. As part of our effort to migrate to this new AAA
solution we need to identify
On 4/2/20 2:30 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:23 PM Ty Young <mailto:youngty1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
rpm-ostree first gave some error about fedora-release(31) and the
RPMFusion repos. Why does Fedora not attempt to bump the RPMFusion
repo
version auto
On 3/30/20 3:37 AM, Daniel Smith wrote:
You will likely need to reset any mutations you have performed
$ rpm-ostree reset
I decided to just download and install Fedora 31 and upgrade to Fedora
32 as I would as if I was using it(AKA installing Nvidia drivers).
It was a bit rocky, to say
On 3/29/20 3:01 PM, Ty Young wrote:
On 3/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:
"ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm for kernel
5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc33.x86_64"
You're using fc33 kernels which are Rawhide. You'll need to rebase d
On 3/29/20 3:25 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 22:20, Ty Young wrote:
On 3/29/20 3:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote:
RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and
those just worked. (Well
On 3/29/20 3:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote:
RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just
worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as
proprietary drivers work to begin with, but that was no
On 3/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:
"ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm for kernel
5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc33.x86_64"
You're using fc33 kernels which are Rawhide. You'll need to rebase down to F32
or F31.
rpm-ostree rebase
On 3/29/20 2:29 PM, Daniel Smith wrote:
Both F31 and F32 have non-debug kernels that work with the Nvidia drivers from
rpmfusion.
Source: Using F32 Silverblue with the Nvidia akmods.
OK, so why aren't they installing?
___
devel mailing list --
On 3/29/20 1:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:31:13AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:46:17 -, you wrote:
Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused:
rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
You need to use the nodebug kernel
On 3/29/20 1:46 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused:
rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
You need to use the nodebug kernel
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
Wiki doesn't say how to install nondebug on Silverblue. How do
>Interesting. I’ve used Fedora 30 Silverblue before and it worked(yes, using
>AKMod). Maybe this is a >regression?
>Anyway, when I looked up the error I got a result from Nvidia’s forum wherein
>a user pointed to a >kernel issue. Apologies if that isn’t the case.
Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod,
>Okay, no. This is actually a fundamental technical flaw with
>RPM-OSTree. In fact, *zero* DKMS or AKMod based packages will work
>with RPM-OSTree based systems, and has been known for at least three
>years: https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/1091
>It has nothing to do with any
Either no one is testing Fedora 32 on Nvidia hardware or Fedora has
entered an entirely new level of salt. Attempting to install from
RPMFusion results in:
Mar 28 22:32:44 localhost.localdomain
rpm-ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building
/usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm
ecifically, the "be respectful" section at the top.
Anyway, not the same person. I'd jump off a cliff before having anything
to do with or use Debian. Anyone who knows me from Reddit could probably
tell you that.
m
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:37 PM Ty Young <mailto:youngty1...@gmail.com&
On 3/19/20 2:43 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:37 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 3/19/20 2:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 12/03/2020 22:34, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 11:33:04PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
It is very, very wrong and I don't feel I should have
On 3/19/20 2:18 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 12/03/2020 22:34, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 11:33:04PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
It is very, very wrong and I don't feel I should have to make a public
request like this. Nonetheless, there is a certain type of person who
On 1/25/20 7:30 PM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
Hello Ty,
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 1:42 AM Ty Young wrote:
The unfortunate reality is that none of what you describe will likely
change in any significant way, at least not with the standard Linux
distros(Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Arch) etc. Too
On 1/25/20 7:12 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:42 PM Ty Young wrote:
You miss the point of how FOSS projects work. Read up on some history
and get some understanding of the cultural background before you
blithely say that ideology and passion are what is killing Linux
distros
Hi Bill,
Not an average Fedora user but I've used several Linux
distributions(including Fedora and versions there of) over the years.
What you are bringing up is 100% valid and isn't new or specific to
Fedora. It's been a known and valid complaint that there isn't enough
software in distro
On 10/15/19 10:59 PM, Leigh Scott wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM, John M. Harris Jr
Don't waste your time answering this troll, he isn't listening.
This is gold. Red Hat and Fedora will happily enforce a ridiculous Code
of Conduct on non Red Hat and Fedora members but Red Hat and
On 9/23/19 5:12 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 04:20:37PM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
Then you also understand the entire thread was made *because* Fedora was
being in inconsiderate and disrespectful to both Nvidia, myself, and other
developers, right?
So far, you are the only
On 9/23/19 3:22 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
Ty,
I understand your frustration, but please consider whether your
approach is constructive. "Friends" is one of the four foundations of
the Fedora community and starting the thread with insults goes beyond
the bounds of healthy disagreement. Please keep
On 9/23/19 3:16 PM, Markus Larsson wrote:
On 23 September 2019 21:58:02 CEST, Ty Young
wrote:
>
>On 9/23/19 1:53 PM, Markus Larsson wrote:
>> You already have a solution. Use the solution you have.
>
>
>Not a solution, it's a bandaid to a much larger problem.
Y
, and no one has
experience.
Make any sense? I know it doesn't perfectly loop back at the end but 1-4
does.
Br
M
On 23 September 2019 20:38:13 CEST, Ty Young
wrote:
On 9/23/19 10:00 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:50 am, Michael Catanzaro
wrote
On 9/23/19 2:02 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:38:13PM -0500, Ty Young wrote:
...among a whole lot else I'm probably forgetting.
You're forgetten one very important thing:
https://web.archive.org/save/_embed/http://safr.kingfeatures.com/idn/ck3/email/zone.php?r
On 9/23/19 12:55 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:49 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/23/19 9:56 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 11:03 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/22/19 9:09 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 7:25 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/22/19 5:51 PM, Samuel
On 9/23/19 10:00 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:50 am, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
You're wasting your time. We're not going to run the X server as root
just so you can overclock your GPU. Not a chance.
It isn't just to overclock my GPU, you're *BREAKING PEOPLE'S
On 9/23/19 9:56 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 11:03 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/22/19 9:09 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 7:25 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/22/19 5:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/22/19 3:10 PM, Ty Young wrote:
I couldn't actually install the drivers
On 9/22/19 9:09 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 7:25 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/22/19 5:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/22/19 3:10 PM, Ty Young wrote:
I couldn't actually install the drivers because the update GUI in the
cinnamon spin is broken and/or the repo/update servers
On 9/22/19 5:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/22/19 3:10 PM, Ty Young wrote:
I couldn't actually install the drivers because the update GUI in the
cinnamon spin is broken and/or the repo/update servers are down. Again.
I don't know why you're having so much trouble with updates. But just
On 9/22/19 3:08 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:33 PM Ty Young
Do you mean 'Support non-root X'? if so some DM's still don't support it.
https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/18
This is Nvidia's fault. It was hidden from you because sometimes the
packaging
On 9/22/19 3:32 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase.
Rawhide with Nvidia drivers because of debug kernel. There is a lack of
software compared to other Linux distros like Ubuntu or Arch(no
Vivaldi!?!?). Fedora developers tend to be hostile towards proprietary
software. etc.
I
On 9/22/19 3:08 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:33 PM Ty Young
Do you mean 'Support non-root X'? if so some DM's still don't support it.
https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/18
...and it's Open Source. Ironic.
Anyway, I did a google search and apparently running X
On 9/22/19 2:40 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:32:37 PM MST Ty Young wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase.
About 2-3 months ago I filed a bug report that overclocking on Nvidia
hardware wasn't working on Fedora.
I then later sent an email about this issue wherein
On 9/22/19 1:57 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/21/19 11:46 PM, Ty Young wrote:
That's a load of bull dung if there ever was one. There are *MANY*
bugs in Intel/AMD's drivers and MESA that have yet to be fixed(which
affect everyone) despite being Open Source. You can't fix those bugs
On 9/22/19 12:48 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/21/19 6:31 PM, Ty Young wrote:
Really? It's Nvidia's fault that noone can agree on anything and keep
fragmenting the ecosystem in incredibly stupid ways?
No, it's NVidia's fault because they refuse to open-source their
driver. That means
On 9/21/19 9:24 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 9:32 PM Ty Young wrote:
On 9/21/19 7:51 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:33 PM Ty Young wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase.
About 2-3 months ago I filed a bug report that overclocking on Nvidia hardware
wasn't
On 9/21/19 7:51 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:33 PM Ty Young wrote:
I'll just cut to the chase.
About 2-3 months ago I filed a bug report that overclocking on Nvidia hardware
wasn't working on Fedora. I observed this bug while trying out Fedora
Silverblue 30's release
I'll just cut to the chase.
About 2-3 months ago I filed a bug report that overclocking on Nvidia
hardware wasn't working on Fedora. I observed this bug while trying out
Fedora Silverblue 30's release but not in beta. I then later sent an
email about this issue wherein Nvidia was immediately
of space. The output doesn't make
a whole lot of sense...
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:07 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/8/19 11:46 PM, Ty Young wrote:
> > rpm-ostree install akmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia = core working driver
> > rpm-ostree install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
e driver package itself or libs
right?
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 4:22 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le mar. 9 juil. 2019 à 09:42, Ty Young a écrit :
>
> For more clarity, please answer in bugzilla (either as new RFE or the
> current report).
>
> > > With that said, the appr
On 7/8/19 3:59 PM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
Le lun. 8 juil. 2019 à 21:29, Ty Young a écrit :
Bug filed: https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5307
The driver itself seems perfectly fine in that the system boots and OpenGL
works perfectly fine. Games are playable.
How do I output
2019 at 10:37 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le lun. 8 juil. 2019 à 16:30, Ty Young a écrit :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > To whoever is packaging the Nvidia GPU driver in Fedora / RPM Fusion,
> > overclocking support is currently broken. Not even nvidia-settings i
Hi,
To whoever is packaging the Nvidia GPU driver in Fedora / RPM Fusion,
overclocking support is currently broken. Not even nvidia-settings is
able to set a GPU core offset value via GUI despite a correct coolbits
value being set. This use to work some updates ago. Wayland is not being
Hi,
Does Fedora Silverblue Rawhide not support the nodebug kernel at all?
Currently attempting to override the default DEBUG kernel from the
nodebug repo fails when attempting to switch out the RC5 kernel with the
RC6 kernel with a forbidden base package message. Is this just because
On 4/12/19 10:40 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Ty Young wrote:
Which it does but no alternatives show up even when downloading from
Fedora's repos. Is there no post installation scripts that properly
registers everything? If not, then how are there symbolic links in
/etc/alternatives? What
On 4/12/19 12:16 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Ty Young wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking of switching to Fedora 30 Silverblue(once it comes out of
beta anyway) from Arch linux. One of the requirements is to be able to
install, compile from source and easily switch between
On 4/11/19 11:30 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Ty Young wrote:
alternatives(see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Java), which is supposed
to allow you to switch between Java versions, flat out doesn't work.
This is probably due to limitations in Silverblue. The Fedora Java packaging
was designed
>firstly i recommend to use Fedora toolbox [0] for this kind of things on
Silverblue (it's part of Silverblue already).
Not everything can easily be done in a containerized environment. The game
"Minecraft" for example needs a system JRE in order to run as it is written
in Java and is installed
>Java is not "just" a system directory, it's a set of coordinated
commands, some of those shared between the jre and the jdk, with the set
varying slightly between Java versions, JDK provider, etc.
What you are (primarily) describing is the path export variable to the java
binary which is located
Hi,
I'm thinking of switching to Fedora 30 Silverblue(once it comes out of beta
anyway) from Arch linux. One of the requirements is to be able to install,
compile from source and easily switch between JDK builds. However, Fedora
fails to meet these requirements so badly I'm fairly certain whoever
Hi,
I didn't see a Silverblue specific mailing list and Fedora 30 is a beta
so hopefully this is right. If it isn't, where is the appropriate place?
Firstly I'd like to just say that the idea behind Fedora Silverblue is
really amazing. My understanding it's more orientated for containers
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