This thread is over.
I'd like to ask everyone to take a few minutes to re-read:
http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
and get some away time from the discussion and think about things and
how to approach discussions more constructively.
Thanks,
kevin
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:32 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Then Rahul how about a wiki page about all the RH employees that are
maintaining components in the distribution that have to vs >those that want
to.
If you want to, go ahead. Noone is stopping you.
Rahul
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On 02/02/2013 08:38 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 08:19:29AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:57 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:24:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02,
On 02/02/2013 08:41 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le samedi 02 février 2013 à 06:29 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a
écrit :
On 02/02/2013 02:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.02.2013 03:08, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to talk t
On 02/02/2013 08:31 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:43:48AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:06:12AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02,
Le samedi 02 février 2013 à 06:29 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a
écrit :
> On 02/02/2013 02:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> > Am 02.02.2013 03:08, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
> >> When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to talk
> >> to my manager first" before upgr
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 08:19:29AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 07:57 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:24:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >>>On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:43:48AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:06:12AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >>>On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, "Jóhann B
On 02/02/2013 07:57 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:24:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
If you can't han
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:24:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >>>If you can't handle that, then Fedora development mi
On 02/02/2013 07:33 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:06:12AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 07:24 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >>> If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:06:12AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to
> >>talk to my manager first" b
On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might not be the right
place for you.
Get the fuck out before you get in my busines
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might not be the right
> >place for you.
> >
> Get the fuck out before you get in my business. If you want to test
> me here I a
On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to
talk to my manager first" before upgrading his "component" that
rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the fee
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to
> talk to my manager first" before upgrading his "component" that
> rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the feel that they are
> maintaining their compo
On 02/02/2013 02:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Either RH employees are participating in the project by their own
free will or not. I have personally meet both sides which has
gotten me confused and conflicted.
Empl
On 02/02/2013 02:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.02.2013 03:08, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson:
When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me "I have to talk to my
manager first" before upgrading his
"component" that rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the feel that they are
m
On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA.
Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein
of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA communi
On 02/02/2013 02:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:25 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA.
Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein
of error effectively killed 2 thriving pro
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA.
> Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein
> of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA community. Do
> you really want to head down
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:25 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA.
> Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein
> of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA community. Do
> you really
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Either RH employees are participating in the project by their own free
> will or not. I have personally meet both sides which has gotten me confused
> and conflicted.
>
Employees can have assigned duties as well as projects of
On 02/02/2013 01:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
mailto:johan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I know few RH employees who would beg the differ, many of which go
above and beyond their "corporate" duties but I'll remember your
remarks
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
>
> I know few RH employees who would beg the differ, many of which go above
> and beyond their "corporate" duties but I'll remember your remarks.
>
> It's good to know there exist that corporate line...
>
You don't seem to have
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:36:20PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> 3) introduce compatibility
> The cron and at interfaces aren't complex at all. It shouldn't be
> too hard to have a generator that reads crontab and cron.*, and
> the at queue, and creates the approprate timer files for systemd,
> i
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 01:25:09 +,
"\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" wrote:
community. Do you really want to head down this road with me? Go
ahead big man make my day!
This is not appropriate behavior for a Fedora contributor.
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On 02/02/2013 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 19:38 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 19:38 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmun
On 02/01/2013 11:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 1 February 2013 15:57, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what':
For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the
argument
On 02/01/2013 08:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
You can go yourself through the community working log meetings to
find my reference.
I would expect RH employee ( and other corporation's employee )
sitting at the same tab
On 1 February 2013 15:57, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what':
>
> For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the
> arguments and work, and continue using existing files.
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what':
For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the
arguments and work, and continue using existing files.
Is there actually a noticeable benefit in migrating? W
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said:
> On 01/31/2013 03:51 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >I would be tempted to say:
> > "Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate
> >cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing
> >else f
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
>
> You can go yourself through the community working log meetings to find my
> reference.
>
> I would expect RH employee ( and other corporation's employee ) sitting at
> the same table as their community brethren's and not having to wor
On 02/01/2013 08:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Again, your complaint here seems very vague. Please provide
references. If there is a complaint about someone working in a
company that itself is involved in the project, it is not unexpected
it will get escalated to their manager to help resolv
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:42 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I dont know if that group actually is active and on one of the group when
it got formed it was proposed that Red Hat employees would > get *special*
treatment within the project and the CWG would speak with their *managers*
so m
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:39:48PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >I really don't understand how it hurts to have multiple people look at the
> >information.
> The plan was to gather that information and give people something to
> actually look at.
So... more information is good, right?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
>>>
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Gu
On 02/01/2013 07:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I dont mind everyone else opinions and criticism or help staying
in and out of my works and what not except Bill's after the
treatment he has given me over the years.
On 02/01/2013 07:35 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:28:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I personally would have preferred people waiting and giving me the
chance to go through all the cron jobs and make my presentation and
findings to fesco then afterwards discuss
On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill
N
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> I dont mind everyone else opinions and criticism or help staying in and
> out of my works and what not except Bill's after the treatment he has given
> me over the years.
>
I have no idea what treatment you are talking about.
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:28:56PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I personally would have preferred people waiting and giving me the
> chance to go through all the cron jobs and make my presentation and
> findings to fesco then afterwards discuss the merits of making the
> switch for the c
On 02/01/2013 07:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> And Bills behavior towards me has been so civilized through out the
years.
> If he leaves me and my work alone and general stays away from me
maybe I will...
You are just proving Dav
Hi
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> And Bills behavior towards me has been so civilized through out the
years.
> If he leaves me and my work alone and general stays away from me maybe I
will...
You are just proving David Tardon's point here. You have no monopoly on
i
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill
> >> Notting butting into my work ( and I
On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill
Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying
to come up with his own list instead of simply a
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill
> Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying
> to come up with his own list instead of simply asking me for the one
> I was looking at [
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreasonable request
> nor this being a public mailinglist has anything to do with that request
> after you stated you had no proposal.
>
> I guess I must still be confused...
On 02/01/2013 12:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Then stay out of this.
I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public
mailing list after all.
I'm not seeing asking you to stay out of this is an unreaso
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> Then stay out of this.
>
I don't think that is a reasonable request. This is a public mailing
list after all.
Rahul
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On 01/31/2013 07:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix
the cron migration up with the timer units ( which has been there
from the get go )...
You seem confu
On 01/31/2013 07:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> Have fun with your proposals and implementing them just dont mix the cron
> migration up with the timer units ( which has been there from the get go
> )...
>
You seem confused. I don't have any proposals
Rahul
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On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:03 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit :
> > it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be
> > updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion,
>
> esp. since users want their keyboard to
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:32 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which
> > component and of which
On 01/31/2013 05:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which
component and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to
>systemd timer units and that's totally irrele
Hi
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> I'm the one that has been looking into the benefit from which component
and of which cron job it would be useful for migrating to >systemd timer
units and that's totally irrelevant to that feature as I mentioned to FESCO
but
On 01/31/2013 04:23 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500,
Bill Nottingham wrote:
I would be tempted to say:
"Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a
separate
cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and
nothing
el
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:51:45 -0500,
Bill Nottingham wrote:
I would be tempted to say:
"Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate
cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing
else for now until we have a clearer perspective on t
On 01/31/2013 03:51 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
I would be tempted to say:
"Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate
cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing
else for now until we have a clearer perspective on the future."
Give
Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) said:
> On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> > This is interesting, in that it's a feature that's occasionally requested
> > by various users and administrators. However, this is rather limited in
> > that only systemd stuff is using it
Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said:
> I would say that work even before. If I should say according to
> number of bugs, not many users were using specific SElinux contexts
> for cronjob tasks.
>
> No objection to this feature, it might be very powerful for some
> use-cases. I'm afraid o
Le Mer 30 janvier 2013 19:07, Bill Nottingham a écrit :
> it's wasteful in terms of builds and updates for users to be
> updating all of systemd just to add a new French keymap conversion,
esp. since users want their keyboard to work the same in gui and the
console, so putting the keymaps in sys
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 07:18:40PM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> > The point is, we've done this in the past where we shipped the data with
> > the tools, and we very quickly moved to shipping the data separate - it's
> > cleaner, allows for just updating the data when necessary, and it forces
> > peo
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:18:40 +0100
Tomas Mraz wrote:
> +1 million - another data point - ca-certificates package - it was
> much cleaner to split it out of openssl.
+1 a lot from me too. Adding to churn of a core system component to
simply update data files is bad.
kevin
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On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 13:07 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> > > Either you're intending for the lifetime of your OS to be shipping systemd
> > > updates that update the base data set,
> >
> > I don't intend to ship update packages in the context of systemd, we
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> > Either you're intending for the lifetime of your OS to be shipping systemd
> > updates that update the base data set,
>
> I don't intend to ship update packages in the context of systemd, we
> can just update the data in the package like we add patches for ot
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> And because a major part of the data the hwdb will carry in the future
> will be the equivalent of udev rules, and should not be shipped by a
> different package, because it it might carry specifics needed for a
> certain functionality, just li
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 01/30/13 11:55, Kay Sievers wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> Still looks pointless.
>>>
>>> You convert the old-format into new-format, then compile new-format into
>>> the database. It's not obvious why you don't go straight from
>>> old-format to
On 01/30/13 11:55, Kay Sievers wrote:
Hi,
>> Still looks pointless.
>>
>> You convert the old-format into new-format, then compile new-format into
>> the database. It's not obvious why you don't go straight from
>> old-format to the database. hwdata package updates would directly show
>> up in
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 01/30/13 01:08, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
> are then compiled
On 01/30/13 01:08, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
intermed
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
>> > Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
>> > are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
>> > intermediate step of a second textual format, but
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> > Realistically, it's new textual files, replacing old textual files, which
> > are then compiled into a binary file. I'm not sure why there's the
> > intermediate step of a second textual format, but there is.
>
> Because the original text file is a hack and a
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
>> The hwdb is drop-in directory based, which means:
>> - additionally installed data overwrites shipped data
>> - stuff with the same file name in /etc/ disables stuff in /usr/lib/
>>
>> Users can just
Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) said:
> The hwdb is drop-in directory based, which means:
> - additionally installed data overwrites shipped data
> - stuff with the same file name in /etc/ disables stuff in /usr/lib/
>
> Users can just install update packages, or add their own files, which
> will
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
>>
>> Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
>>
>> The udevd service has a long histo
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:30 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> This is interesting, in that it's a feature that's occasionally requested
> by various users and administrators. However, this is rather limited in
> that only systemd stuff is using it now, and it's tied to the journal API.
Actually, we
On Tue, 29.01.13 14:30, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> > = Features/SystemdMessageCatalog =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdMessageCatalog
> >
> > Feature owner(s): Lennart Poettering
> >
> > Logging is essential fo
On Tue, 29.01.13 20:07, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
> >
> > Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
> >
> > The udevd service has
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> = Features/SystemdMessageCatalog =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdMessageCatalog
>
> Feature owner(s): Lennart Poettering
>
> Logging is essential for finding and tracking down system problems. Just
> finding
> and tracking them d
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
> Some years ago all hardware data was moved out of various separate
> packages into the "hwdata" package (even if it meant moving it out of
> the original upstream source). The feature page doesn't even mention
> the hwdata package. AFAICS this
>
> 1) Dupli
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdHardwareDatabase
>
> Feature owner(s): Kay Sievers
>
> The udevd service has a long history of managing kernel devices. Besides
> generating events when
t;Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:01:40 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features
On 01/28/2013 02:56 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
On 01/27/2013 04:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2013 à 0
On 01/28/2013 02:56 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
On 01/27/2013 04:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2013 à 09:49 -0500, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Jaroslav Reznik writes:
Announcing various systemd features in one announcement, see bellow:
= Features/SystemdCalendarTimers =
On 01/27/2013 04:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2013 à 09:49 -0500, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Jaroslav Reznik writes:
Announcing various systemd features in one announcement, see bellow:
= Features/SystemdCalendarTimers =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCa
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik writes:
>
>> Announcing various systemd features in one announcement, see bellow:
>>
>> = Features/SystemdCalendarTimers =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers
>>
>> Feature owner(s): Lennart Poet
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2013 à 09:49 -0500, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
> Jaroslav Reznik writes:
>
> > Announcing various systemd features in one announcement, see bellow:
> >
> > = Features/SystemdCalendarTimers =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers
> >
> > Feature own
Jaroslav Reznik writes:
Announcing various systemd features in one announcement, see bellow:
= Features/SystemdCalendarTimers =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdCalendarTimers
Feature owner(s): Lennart Poettering
systemd has supported timer units for activating services based o
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