Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:41:53PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 02:48:22PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > > If you don't have the time to make a new build once every year, you > > shouldn't be a packager, full stop. > > I think that's a fair point, but not at all the issu

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, 18:32 Kamil Paral, wrote: > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:43 PM Aleksandra Fedorova > wrote: > >> I wonder, how I as a user going to be informed about the >> earlyoom-event? I assume abrt will recognize the crash? Will it be >> easily visible from the abrt report that it was the

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Damian Ivanov
I am not using a swap partition at all, the system always hangs when OOM but sometimes also at just less than 20% On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:43 AM Peter Hutterer wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 12:15:20PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Let's keep this desktop-focused, since the proposal doe

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 12:15:20PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Let's keep this desktop-focused, since the proposal does not affect Server > edition. > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:48 pm, drago01 wrote: > > As for the desktop case the running web browers in a cgroup to keep them > > in check

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Otaris
> For now, kernel developers have made it clear they do not care about > user space responsiveness. At all. Their concern with kernel > oom-killer is strictly with keeping the kernel functioning. This is false. The stated purpose of the OOM killer is not only to keep the kernel alive. Nor does the

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Artem Tim
Seems like this bug: **Kills multiple processes at once** https://github.com/rfjakob/earlyoom/issues/121 but according to github it's fixed now. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.f

Trouble creating modular metadata for local repo

2020-01-06 Thread Digimer
Hi all, I'm trying to create a local repo of an offline collection of systems. When I try to install, I get: No available modular metadata for modular package 'foo.arch', it cannot be installed on the system Googling leads me to: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/hosti

Re: Upgrading libffi

2020-01-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:02 PM Anthony Green wrote: > > Guido Aulisi writes: > > If you know all depending packages will get updated in an acceptable > > time to the new ABI, you can wait for this to happen, and then rebuild > > all in rawhide. > > The API is mostly the same. Virtually everythi

Re: Upgrading libffi

2020-01-06 Thread Anthony Green
Guido Aulisi writes: > If you know all depending packages will get updated in an acceptable > time to the new ABI, you can wait for this to happen, and then rebuild > all in rawhide. The API is mostly the same. Virtually everything should already build with the new version (Debian has tested thi

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:26 AM Dan Čermák wrote: > That is correct, however I will probably orphan ocaml-deriving and > ocaml-sexplib very soon because we only need ocaml-bin-prot for infer > and I have no need for the other two packages. Sorry, I was on the road and my memory played tricks on me

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Team (weekly)

2020-01-06 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Team (weekly) on 2020-01-07 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Team. More information available at: [Modularity Team Docs](https://docs.pagure.o

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-01-06 at 17:27 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:58 PM Peter Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies > > > and no enforcement makes no sense. Eith

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:43 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:38:51PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > In support of that, I'd like to also have that page steer people into > > > tooling for creating new spins —- and I'd like to see us invest in and > > > rebuild the spin cr

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:38:51PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > In support of that, I'd like to also have that page steer people into > > tooling for creating new spins —- and I'd like to see us invest in and > > rebuild the spin creation processes. (Particularly, I'd like spin releases > > to b

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:19:30PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > In support of that, I'd like to also have that page steer people into > tooling for creating new spins —- and I'd like to see us invest in and > rebuild the spin creation processes. (Particularly, I'd like spin releases > to be deco

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-06 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:08:07AM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > I've pretty much concluded Fedora is best off dropping the nested ext4 > in favor of plain squashfs, and using zstd. It's not required to do > both, but the benefit is additive and significant. The work in dracut > and lorax to support

Re: ssl3_get_record:wrong version number

2020-01-06 Thread David Muse
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 15:19:28 -0800 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:53:53PM -0500, David Muse wrote: > > I keep getting "ssl3_get_record:wrong version number" errors when I try to > > run "fedpkg build", usually during checkout. Searching the archives, it > > looks like the last

Re: Upgrading libffi

2020-01-06 Thread Guido Aulisi
Il giorno lun, 06/01/2020 alle 18.11 -0500, Anthony Green ha scritto: > I released a new version of libffi a month or so ago, the first one > in 5 > years. There's an ABI change that was unavoidable in order to > accommodate the aarch64 port, and the sonumber was bumped. > > I am also the Fedora

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 01. 20 23:27, Ben Cotton wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:58 PM Peter Jones wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too aggressi

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 01. 20 22:57, Peter Jones wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too aggressive and we need to change them, or they are not and w

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:41:53PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 02:48:22PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > > If you don't have the time to make a new build once every year, you > > shouldn't be a packager, full stop. > > I think that's a fair point, but not at all the issu

Re: ssl3_get_record:wrong version number

2020-01-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:53:53PM -0500, David Muse wrote: > I keep getting "ssl3_get_record:wrong version number" errors when I try to > run "fedpkg build", usually during checkout. Searching the archives, it > looks like the last time someone reported this, it was during a planned > outage,

Upgrading libffi

2020-01-06 Thread Anthony Green
I released a new version of libffi a month or so ago, the first one in 5 years. There's an ABI change that was unavoidable in order to accommodate the aarch64 port, and the sonumber was bumped. I am also the Fedora package maintainer for libffi, but admit that I don't have the time or expertise

Re: ssl3_get_record:wrong version number

2020-01-06 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
I'm seeing this running fedscm-admin as well. Sometimes. --  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, January 6,

ssl3_get_record:wrong version number

2020-01-06 Thread David Muse
I keep getting "ssl3_get_record:wrong version number" errors when I try to run "fedpkg build", usually during checkout. Searching the archives, it looks like the last time someone reported this, it was during a planned outage, but I don't see anything down on the fedora infrastructure status pa

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Jones
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 02:48:22PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > If you don't have the time to make a new build once every year, you > shouldn't be a packager, full stop. I think that's a fair point, but not at all the issue here. I specifically want not to rebuild this, which is why I *have* r

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:58 PM Peter Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies > > and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too > > aggressive and we need to change th

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:57:16PM -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > > Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies > > and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too > > aggressive and we need to change them, or they are not and we need to > > enforce them. > Tha

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 06.01.20 um 20:48 schrieb Robbie Harwood: To actually get removed from your package in Fedora typically takes at least three months during which you have to be mostly non-responsive. I only package a few things in Fedora, but it's far more frustrating to me as a maintainer when a non-respons

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Jones
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 12:54:58PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Regardless of different opinions about aggressiveness, having policies > and no enforcement makes no sense. Either the polices are too > aggressive and we need to change them, or they are not and we need to > enforce them. That seems

Big change to free maxmind GeoLite2 databases, limiting distribution

2020-01-06 Thread Dave Dykstra
I see that currently Fedora rawhide gets new geolite2-*-YYYMMDD packages (e.g. geolite2-city-20191217) each month in order to distribute the free maxmind geo IP databases. Unfortunately, Maxmind just greatly tightened down on the license for these data distributions and I think that Fedora will no

Re: Self Introduction: Breno B. Fernandes

2020-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:22:57PM -0500, Breno Brand Fernandes wrote: > I expect to consistently contribute to the Fedora community. > It is very nice to get to know such a community with so many brilliant > people. Hi Breno! Welcome to Fedora! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Self Introduction: Breno B. Fernandes

2020-01-06 Thread Breno Brand Fernandes
Hi all, I am ~33 years old and I've been using (and working with?) Linux since I was 16-ish. I've been using Centos/RedHat/Fedora for a while and am now interested in getting more involved. I talk to some of you at #epel@freenode. People are always very helpful and friendly. I expect to consiste

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:09 pm, Lennart Poettering wrote: - facebook is working on making oomd something that just works for everyone, they are in the final rounds of canonicalizing the configuration so that it can just work for all workloads without tuning. The last bits for this to be de

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:14 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Chris Murphy writes: > > As for swap size options including no swap, and maybe swap-on-ZRAM: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/120 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1731978 > > > > There are all kinds of useful a

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Chris Murphy writes: > Robbie Harwood wrote: >> "John M. Harris Jr" writes: >>> On Friday, January 3, 2020 1:51:00 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote: Robbie Harwood writes: > Ben Cotton writes: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom >> >> == Summary == >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-01-06 at 14:48 -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Miro Hrončok writes: > > > On 06. 01. 20 12:44, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > As said in the e-mail, if you think the policy needs to be adapted, > > > > please discuss - I have made sure the recent changes in the policy > > > > are

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:11 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > "John M. Harris Jr" writes: > > > On Friday, January 3, 2020 1:51:00 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote: > >> Robbie Harwood writes: > >>> Ben Cotton writes: > >>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > == Su

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 2020-01-06 18:31, Kamil Paral wrote: FWIW, the behavior on Android is very close to what is proposed here. If your application exceeds the amount of available memory, it simply closes right in front of your eyes. No explanation, nothing, it's just gone (might be different on latest Android

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Miro Hrončok writes: > On 06. 01. 20 12:44, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>> As said in the e-mail, if you think the policy needs to be adapted, >>> please discuss - I have made sure the recent changes in the policy >>> are discussed with the community, especially since you were so angry >>> when I fo

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:53 am, Chris Murphy wrote: And yes the idea is to go a little faster. Earlyoom is easy to take out. And I have no problem with it coming out in fc33 if oomd or (more likely) lmm are ready by then. Brainstorming: if a systemd-level solution were to be ready in the F33

Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: retire python34

2020-01-06 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetirePython34 == Summary == The {{package|python34}} package will be retired without replacement from [[Releases/33|Fedora 33]]. Python 3.4 has been End of Life since March 2019 and was kept around only to test software targeting EPEL 6 and Debian 8 “Jessie”

Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: retire python26

2020-01-06 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetirePython26 == Summary == The {{package|python26}} package will be retired without replacement from [[Releases/33|Fedora 33]]. Python 2.6 has been End of Life since October 2013 and was kept around only to test software targeting RHEL/EPEL 6. The removal i

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
"John M. Harris Jr" writes: > On Friday, January 3, 2020 1:51:00 PM MST Robbie Harwood wrote: >> Robbie Harwood writes: >>> Ben Cotton writes: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom == Summary == Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This wi

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:09 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 06.01.20 11:22, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote: > > So I talked to Tejun Heo about this (kernel cgroups maintainer, > working for facebook with the people who did the PSI stuff, kernel mm > guy). Here's the gist:

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:24 PM Bohdan Khomutskyi wrote: > Summary > > Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation media. > Hi Bohdan, as a member of QA, I'll happily support any proposal that improves the installation speed (the image size is not that important from my P

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:10 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > - going down to 100ms poll intervals is a bad idea, 1s is sufficient, > maybe higher. > According to the project readme, the query interval is 100ms only if the lack or free RAM starts to get severe. Otherwise the interval is claimed t

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 06.01.20 11:22, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote: So I talked to Tejun Heo about this (kernel cgroups maintainer, working for facebook with the people who did the PSI stuff, kernel mm guy). Here's the gist: - earlyoom might be OK as short time stopgap if people really want to

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2020-01-06 19:05, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : Handling those checks is where the packaging toil is (that is, as long as Fedora is a deployment project). It is not something the packaging format makes harder. However, because our packaging format streamlines those checks, and forces to apply

poppler soname bump in rawhide

2020-01-06 Thread Marek Kasik
Hi, I'm going to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.84.0 at the beginning of next week. There are several API changes and soname bump of the base library libpoppler.so.*. Here is scratch-build of poppler-0.84.0: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=40194709 Btw, if your

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le 2020-01-06 18:19, Matthew Miller a écrit : Hi, Second, we need to figure out how to work with language-native packaging formats and more directly with code that's distributed in git repos rather than as tarball releases. We're not adding meaningful end-user value by manually repackaging t

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-01-06)

2020-01-06 Thread Petr Šabata
= #fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2020-01-06) = Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-01-06/fesco.2020-01-06-15.00.log.html Meeting summary

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:20 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > == Summary == > Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause > the kernel oomkiller to trigger sooner, but will not affect which > process it chooses to kill off. Th

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:43 PM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > I wonder, how I as a user going to be informed about the > earlyoom-event? I assume abrt will recognize the crash? Will it be > easily visible from the abrt report that it was the OOM? > > The concern is: if we enable such a service, wi

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:47 pm, Lennart Poettering wrote: Yes, l-m-m is great. If we can deploy l-m-m today already, why isn't it good enoug for earlyoom? GMemoryMonitor is the GLib API that's implemented using low-memory-monitor's D-Bus API. In practice, using it for OOM killing is not th

Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
Hi everyone! Since it's a new year and a new decade [*], it seems like a good time to look forward and talk about what we want the Fedora Project to be in the next five and even ten years. How do we take the awesome foundation we have now and build and grow and make something that continues to thri

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 06.01.20 10:09, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote: > Is there a way to check memory usage without periodic wakeups? PSI. It measures latency though. Which is the right thing to measure here... You can configure thresholds there and it wakes you up when those are hit. Thus user

Review requests: various perl modules (for licensecheck and perl-Regexp-Pattern-License update)

2020-01-06 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi To update licensecheck and perl-Regexp-Pattern-License, I need a number of new dependencies packaged: For updating perl-Regexp-Pattern-License (dependency chain in this order, leaf first): * perl-String-Trim-More - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1788157 * perl-Hash-DefHash

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: iptables-nft-default

2020-01-06 Thread Phil Sutter
Hi Kevin, I just noticed we didn't finish discussing the package rename proposal in related releng issue[1]: On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 05:02:08PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: [...] > To change the status quo, two measures are planned: > > === Raise priority of nft-variants in alternatives === > > Cur

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 06.01.20 17:47, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > On Mo, 06.01.20 08:51, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:08 AM Lennart Poettering > > wrote: > > >> > > > Looking at the sources very superficially I see a couple of problems: > >

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-06 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:22 PM drago01 wrote: > What does windows do? Is it the equivalent of the discard mount option or is > it more like fstrim? Well, as I understand it(*), it's complicated, and there are a lot of various tuning knobs one can use to change behavior. But typically, with volu

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 06.01.20 08:51, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:08 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > >> > > Looking at the sources very superficially I see a couple of problems: > > > > 1. Waking up all the time in 100ms intervals? We generally try to > >avoid

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-06 Thread drago01
On Monday, January 6, 2020, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer >> >> == Summary == >> Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly, >> which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 am, Lennart Poettering wrote: Hmm, are we sure this is something we want to have in the default install? Is the code really good enough for that? Looking at the sources very superficially I see a couple of problems: 1. Waking up all the time in 100ms intervals? W

Re: koji / bodhi issues status update

2020-01-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 11:57:21AM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Koji is misbehaving ("again"|"still?"). > > If you search for a package, the search result is available fast. > If you searched for a build around 8-9 am CET (~3h ago) today, the > search did not return in a reason

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:57 AM Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > On 1/5/20 12:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:51 AM Aleksandra Fedorova > > wrote: > > > >> Since in the Change we are not introducing just the earlyoom tool but > >> enable it with a specific profile I would add th

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 3:08 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > Looking at the sources very superficially I see a couple of problems: > > 1. Waking up all the time in 100ms intervals? We generally try to >avoid waking the CPU up all the time if nothing happens. Saving >power and things. I a

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Golang 1.14

2020-01-06 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Thursday, 2 January 2020 16:24:44 CET Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Do we really need to rebuild all thousand of packages given that most > of them are providing only noarch devel packages with sources? Don't > we need to rebuild only those which provide binaries? > We need rebuild to re-run the test

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:08 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > I mean, yes, the OOM killer might not be that great currently, but > this sounds like something to fix in kernel land, and if that doesn't > work out for some reason because kernel devs can't agree, then do it > as fallback in userspace

Re: wdune/white is available for fedora 32

2020-01-06 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Sunday, 5 January 2020 02:54:54 CET J. Scheurich wrote: > Hi, > > After 13 months, wdune/white_dune is avaliable for fedora 32 8-) > > I want to say thanks for anyońe, who gave tips, especially Petr Menšík > (the reviewer) and > Robert-André Mauchin (the sponsor). > > > so long > MUFTI > >

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Enable fstrim.timer by default

2020-01-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer > > == Summary == > Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly, > which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim --fstab --verbose --quiet` > > > == Owner == > * Name: [[

Re: Self Introduction: Michael Hrechyn

2020-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 01:00:42PM -, Michael Hrechyn wrote: > Hi! I'm Michael Hrechyn, 17 years old school boy, who lives in Belarus. > In addition to studying at school, I study programming in Rust and > administration of Linux systems because I like it. > I have few simple open-source proje

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-06 Thread Ben Cotton
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 7:24 AM Bohdan Khomutskyi wrote: > > I was unable to create an article in Fedora wiki system. > Since you don't have any non-CLA groups in FAS, I have added you to the wikiedit group. Please add this to the wiki ASAP. This proposal is past the deadline for Fedora 32 System-W

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:25:19PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: > "Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0800, Jerry James wrote: > >> Pardon the top posting. I am on the road with only my phone, no Fedora > >> devices anywhere. I have been thinking about trying to get

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Firewalld Default to nftables

2020-01-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:45 AM Eric Garver wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 09:58:50AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/firewalld_default_to_nftables > > > > > > == Summary == > > > This change will

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Firewalld Default to nftables

2020-01-06 Thread Eric Garver
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 09:58:50AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:32 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/firewalld_default_to_nftables > > > > == Summary == > > This change will toggle the default firewalld backend from iptables to > > nftables.

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le lun. 23 déc. 2019 à 11:03, Miro Hrončok a écrit : > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedorapro

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-01-06)

2020-01-06 Thread Petr Šabata
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-01-06 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Fedora-Rawhide-20200106.n.0 compose check report

2020-01-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 2 of 43 required tests failed openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 20/155 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200105.

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200106.n.0 changes

2020-01-06 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200105.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200106.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 60 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Dan Čermák
"Richard W.M. Jones" writes: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0800, Jerry James wrote: >> Pardon the top posting. I am on the road with only my phone, no Fedora >> devices anywhere. I have been thinking about trying to get Facebook's Infer >> tool into Fedora. Several of its dependencies are

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 11:10:18PM +0100, Dan Čermák wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > Jerry James writes: > > > Pardon the top posting. I am on the road with only my phone, no Fedora > > devices anywhere. I have been thinking about trying to get Facebook's Infer > > tool into Fedora. Several of its depend

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-01-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0800, Jerry James wrote: > Pardon the top posting. I am on the road with only my phone, no Fedora > devices anywhere. I have been thinking about trying to get Facebook's Infer > tool into Fedora. Several of its dependencies are on this list, but I won't > be able

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 1/5/20 12:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:51 AM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: Since in the Change we are not introducing just the earlyoom tool but enable it with a specific profile I would add those details here. Smth like: "earlyoom service will choose the offending pro

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 01. 20 12:44, Peter Robinson wrote: As said in the e-mail, if you think the policy needs to be adapted, please discuss - I have made sure the recent changes in the policy are discussed with the community, especially since you were so angry when I followed the previous one. Unfortunately, t

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:34 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 06. 01. 20 12:17, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:35 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> Dear maintainers. > >> > >> Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following > >> packages > >> will be retired

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 01. 20 12:17, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:35 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: Dear maintainers. Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching (February 2020). Policy: https:

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Peter Robinson wrote on 2020/01/06 20:17: On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:35 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: Dear maintainers. Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching (February 2020). Policy: https:/

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:35 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Dear maintainers. > > Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages > will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching > (February > 2020). > > Policy: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-

Re: koji / bodhi issues status update

2020-01-06 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi Kevin, Koji is misbehaving ("again"|"still?"). If you search for a package, the search result is available fast. If you searched for a build around 8-9 am CET (~3h ago) today, the search did not return in a reasonable timeframe, to be exact: it did not return at all. Now, the same search ret

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi, it does not look you follow the formal "Changes policy". The process for submitting change proposals is described here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/changes_policy/ Vít Dne 05. 01. 20 v 13:23 Bohdan Khomutskyi napsal(a): > > > Summary > > Improve compression r

List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2020-01-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dear maintainers. Based on the latest fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedora 32 approximately one week before branching (February 2020). Policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ The packages

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-06 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 03.01.20 14:18, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableEarlyoom > > == Summary == > Install earlyoom package, and enable it by default. This will cause > the kernel oomkiller to trigger sooner, but will not affect which > process it chooses to

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: binutils 2.34

2020-01-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 04. 01. 20 v 11:52 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 02:28:29PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BINUTILS234 >> >> == Summary == >> Rebase the binutils package from version 2.33 to version 2.34. >> >> == Owner == >> * Name: Nick

Re: perl-Filesys-Df orphaned

2020-01-06 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:16:55AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Hi, > I just orphaned perl-Filesys-Df. Feel free to take it. > > This is basically nothing-happening-here package. It needs EPEL8 build: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1785649 > I took it. I will build it for EPEL8.

perl-Filesys-Df orphaned

2020-01-06 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Hi, I just orphaned perl-Filesys-Df. Feel free to take it. This is basically nothing-happening-here package. It needs EPEL8 build: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1785649 I do not use this package for long time and I do not even code in Perl for long time. This package is dependen