[rpms/perl-Bit-Vector] PR #2: Tests

2022-12-21 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
jplesnik merged a pull-request against the project: `perl-Bit-Vector` that you are following. Merged pull-request: `` Tests `` https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Bit-Vector/pull-request/2 ___ perl-devel mailing list --

[Bug 2155733] New: perl-Data-Printer-1.001000 is available

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155733 Bug ID: 2155733 Summary: perl-Data-Printer-1.001000 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Data-Printer Keywords: FutureFeature,

Re: F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/21/22 21:08, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 4:49 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XServerProhibitsByteSwappedClients >> >> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes >> process, proposals are publicly announced in order

[Bug 2155727] perl-Perl-Critic-1.146 is available

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155727 --- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- the-new-hotness/release-monitoring.org's scratch build of perl-Perl-Critic-1.146-1.fc36.src.rpm for rawhide completed http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=95609124 -- You

[Bug 2155727] perl-Perl-Critic-1.146 is available

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155727 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Created attachment 1934073 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1934073=edit Update to 1.146 (#2155727) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for

[Bug 2155727] New: perl-Perl-Critic-1.146 is available

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155727 Bug ID: 2155727 Summary: perl-Perl-Critic-1.146 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Perl-Critic Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

Re: Scripts to rebuild dependencies in copr

2022-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 09:15:10PM -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > I've been using an old review_pr.py script produced by the Fedora > Stewardship SIG to rebuild the depedencies of a package in COPR to test > changes/updates to packages. It's been incredibly useful. However, it > seems that the

Scripts to rebuild dependencies in copr

2022-12-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
I've been using an old review_pr.py script produced by the Fedora Stewardship SIG to rebuild the depedencies of a package in COPR to test changes/updates to packages. It's been incredibly useful. However, it seems that the github repo has disappeared. Is there anything else out there in use

Re: Self Introduction: Hussein K.

2022-12-21 Thread David Kirwan
Welcome Hussein! On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 01:23, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi > > I'd like to mentor Hussein (FAS: blinxen) in learning to become a > packager. He is a work colleague of mine. In particular, he's helping me > getting libimagequant updated, which some time ago was ported to rust. > As

Re: F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 4:49 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XServerProhibitsByteSwappedClients > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2022-12-21 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 5 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-5d08436b7d davix-0.8.3-1.el8 5 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2022-49c3f833e1 libptytty-2.0-2.el8 rxvt-unicode-9.30-3.el8 1

F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XServerProhibitsByteSwappedClients This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora

F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XServerProhibitsByteSwappedClients This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora

[EPEL-devel] Re: claws-mail for EPEL-9

2022-12-21 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 19:09:48 +0100 Dan Horák wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:56:40 -0800 > Troy Dawson wrote: > > > Packages do not automatically get transferred over from epel7 to a newer > > epel. People have to request them. > > Nobody has requested it for epel9. > >

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Iñaki Ucar
From the point of view of the workstation experience (with a laptop), I see no discussion on how this may impact hibernation. Currently, I have secure boot disabled essentially because I want my laptop to automatically hibernate (and recover from that state) whenever it is suspended for a number

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 20.12.22 17:11, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > SecureBoot may not be to your liking but is what is installed on 99% of > > modern hardware sold, so it is a good idea to first show you can > > support it. Then if you have interested you can propose "something > > better". > > We

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Mark Olesen via devel
To answer the first question about 'domain decomposition'.. I don't think it is something that 'most' or 'many' customers deal with. Fair enough, but for HPC scientific applications it is definitely a go-to functionality. In that case, the usual method is 'build it yourself' or 'work with

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 20.12.22 21:32, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > As someone whose day job involves working with teams who develop both > Windows and Linux drivers (and in the past, even macOS drivers!), I > can categorically say that Windows driver engineering processes are > way friendlier than

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 20.12.22 11:28, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > I think UKIs are fundamentally flawed and are an idea that came out of > a group that doesn't really interact with real users enough to > understand how much of a problem they actually are. I presume this is supposed to be a comment

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 12:32, Mark Olesen wrote: > Yup, scotch doesn't seem to be in CBR either. > Doesn't even seem to be a metis library anymore either. This all seems > to be a bit odd - how do people manage domain decomposition without > metis, or scotch (and ptscotch)? Or is it expected

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Dennis Gilmore via devel
In my case, I have Network Manager config files included in my initrd and bootargs to bring up the network so that I get automatic disk decryption while on my home network, and prompted for a password when I am not at home. I think this a reasonable enough use case it should be considered in the

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:38, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > sd-boot implements boot counting by stashing the counter inside the > > UKI (or bootspec type #1 conf file) file name, so that the counter is > > impossible to ever get lost, pile up or so. > > Because the ESP is intended to be

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 04:31:20PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > > And if you chose your HW carefully you may even be able to register > > your own public keys, generate and sign your own built UKIs and re- > > enable SecureBoot after that... your choice! > > And when your

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > > Switching the whole distro over to unified kernels quickly is not > > > realistic though. Too many features are depending on the current > > > workflow with a host-specific initrd (and host-specific kernel

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:35, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > And similar for server/embedded stuff. If fedora wants to be deployed > > in such worlds, it's kinda nice if we can automatically recover from > > hosed updates. > > None of those things require us to write data to /boot. Even in

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 18:31 +0100, Mark Olesen via devel wrote: > Yup, scotch doesn't seem to be in CBR either. > Doesn't even seem to be a metis library anymore either. This all > seems > to be a bit odd - how do people manage domain decomposition without > metis, or scotch (and ptscotch)? Or

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 01:32:10PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 at 12:31, Vít Ondruch wrote: > [...] > > Let me put together a few points to sum this up: > > > > 1) DNF name is well established, keep the DNF name (and forget about YUM). > > > > 2)

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:28:48AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:22 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_Kernel_Support_Phase_1 > I think UKIs are fundamentally flawed and are an idea that came out of > a group that doesn't really

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 21.12.22 07:40, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to > > > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for > > > the journal.

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:29 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 21.12.22 12:21, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > > > > is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is > > > > > already going to

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 07:40, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to > > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for > > the journal. Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice because /boot > > is rarely

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Mark Olesen via devel
Yup, scotch doesn't seem to be in CBR either. Doesn't even seem to be a metis library anymore either. This all seems to be a bit odd - how do people manage domain decomposition without metis, or scotch (and ptscotch)? Or is it expected that we should be rolling this thirdparty software into

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:21, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > > > is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is > > > > already going to use FAT. > > > > > > Doesn't support links, lournaling and ACLs. > > > >

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 12:11 -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 12:03, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 17:58 +0100, Mark Olesen via devel wrote: > > > Checking my copr log, it seems that centos-stream-8 (and epel-8) > > has > > > this: > > > > > >

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:15 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 21.12.22 12:53, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) > wrote: > > > On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > > is used for the same

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/21/22 12:17, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 21.12.22 12:12, Demi Marie Obenour (demioben...@gmail.com) wrote: > >>> At least for the systemd stuff, we carefully made sure that our access >>> patterns to the ESP both from sd-boot/sd-stub and from userspace are >>> by default as minimal

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 14:00, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to > > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for > > the journal. Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:12, Demi Marie Obenour (demioben...@gmail.com) wrote: > > At least for the systemd stuff, we carefully made sure that our access > > patterns to the ESP both from sd-boot/sd-stub and from userspace are > > by default as minimal and robust as we can make them, to minimize > >

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:53, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is > > already going to use FAT. > >

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/21/22 12:00, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 21.12.22 10:03, Gerd Hoffmann (kra...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> For the general case we need some other option. Could be just stick to >> grub2 for those cases (we'll continue to need grub2 anyway for bios boot >> and ppc64le). Or drop an ext4

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 12:03, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 17:58 +0100, Mark Olesen via devel wrote: > > Checking my copr log, it seems that centos-stream-8 (and epel-8) has > > this: > > > > ptscotch-openmpi-devel x86_64 6.0.5-3.el8 powertools > > scotch-devel

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 12/20/22 16:34, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2022-12-20 at 14:56 -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> How do you plan to handle system recovery?  For VMs this is much >> less of a concern, but on bare metal there needs to be a way for >> a local, authenticated administrator to obtain a root shell

Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi Simo, On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 18:28:01 +0200, Simo Sorce wrote: > At this time, as far as I know, there is no OpenPGP work of any kind on > supporting PQC algorithms. Furthermore the way we use signatures in RPM > really has no resemblance to the scenarios OpenPGP was built for. > > So we should

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 06:27, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:23 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 20/12/2022 19:56, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Great. The gotcha though is this in effect requires a change in the file > > > system currently mounted at

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 12:22, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On 20/12/2022 19:56, Chris Murphy wrote: > Great. The gotcha though > is this in effect requires a change in the file system currently > mounted at /boot, which is ext4. And ext4 isn't supported by sd-boot > or

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 17:58 +0100, Mark Olesen via devel wrote: > Checking my copr log, it seems that centos-stream-8 (and epel-8) has > this: > > ptscotch-openmpi-devel   x86_64   6.0.5-3.el8 powertools > scotch-devel x86_64   6.0.5-3.el8 powertools > > I was mistaken about it

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 10:03, Gerd Hoffmann (kra...@redhat.com) wrote: > For the general case we need some other option. Could be just stick to > grub2 for those cases (we'll continue to need grub2 anyway for bios boot > and ppc64le). Or drop an ext4 driver to /boot/efi/EFI/systemd/drivers, > for

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Mark Olesen via devel
Checking my copr log, it seems that centos-stream-8 (and epel-8) has this: ptscotch-openmpi-devel x86_64 6.0.5-3.el8 powertools scotch-devel x86_64 6.0.5-3.el8 powertools I was mistaken about it working with epel-9. It also fails to load there. So I guess my question has now

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 21.12.22 10:16, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > Without an initrd we immediately have the following limitations: > > - all kernel modules needed to mount root must be compiled in > > - all that code is always loaded and

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:16:58AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > Without an initrd we immediately have the following limitations: > > - all kernel modules needed to mount root must be compiled in > > - all that code is always loaded and

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 20.12.22 13:56, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > * Better secure boot support (specifically the initrd is covered by > > the signature). > > We need to solve the glaring hole that is the initrd. There's no > question about it. I can't really assess if this feature is the

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:16:58AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > Without an initrd we immediately have the following limitations: > > - all kernel modules needed to mount root must be compiled in > > - all that code is always loaded and

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 11:05, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > The devel package are not included in CentOS repositories unless > requested > > Yes, but Mark reports that his package builds "with EPEL, but not with > CentOS". As for as I know, we have the following in copr: > > chroot "epel 9" has

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 20.12.22 20:42, Björn Persson (Bjorn@rombobjörn.se) wrote: > The root filesystem is also relevant for troubleshooting, when I take a > storage device out of a broken computer and connect it to another > computer to inspect it. Suddenly there are two "discoverable" root > partitions, and

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > Without an initrd we immediately have the following limitations: > - all kernel modules needed to mount root must be compiled in > - all that code is always loaded and remains in unswappable memory > - root= syntax is limited to what the

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Michael J Gruber
> The devel package are not included in CentOS repositories unless requested Yes, but Mark reports that his package builds "with EPEL, but not with CentOS". As for as I know, we have the following in copr: chroot "epel 9" has base RHEL9 and repos base+AppStream+CRB+Extras+EPEL chroot "centos

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 07:22:34PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 01:56:57PM -0500, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Or if we could do enough strict standardization in > > the boot chain with a possibly larger kernel to avoid > > needing an initrd, i.e. get to sysroot mount

Re: copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 21. 12. 22 v 16:14 Mark Olesen via devel napsal(a): I'm using copr for https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/openfoam/openfoam/ and now finally also enabled for building on epel9 and centos-stream-9 (both x86_64). With the centos-stream-9 I get these messages: Updating Subscription

Re: Can we retire glib, gtk+, bubblemon, manedit and xconvers ?

2022-12-21 Thread Paul Howarth
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 14:47:38 + Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi, > > Dependencies on glib1 and gtk1 are only bubblemon manedit xconvers , > I propose retire it on F38, it's one less burden that we have . As I've always said when this has come up before, I'll be happy to retire glib1 and gtk+1

copr and centos9 ?

2022-12-21 Thread Mark Olesen via devel
I'm using copr for https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/openfoam/openfoam/ and now finally also enabled for building on epel9 and centos-stream-9 (both x86_64). With the centos-stream-9 I get these messages: Updating Subscription Management repositories. Unable to read consumer identity

Re: Can we retire glib, gtk+, bubblemon, manedit and xconvers ?

2022-12-21 Thread Artur Frenszek-Iwicki
fpc (the Free Pascal Compiler) also ships with units for developing stuff with gtk1 - so should we retire gtk+, we'll probably want to patch fpc so said units are not shipped. A.FI. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

(Late) HEADS UP: qwt-6.2.0 landed in rawhide with soname bump

2022-12-21 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I built qwt-6.2.0 two days ago but missed the fact that the Provides changed from to libqwt-qt5.so.6() to libqwt-qt5.so.6.2(). I'll proceed with rebuilding the following packages to fix the resulting broken dependencies: COPASI gazebo gnuradio qgis qsstv Apologies for the disruption.

Can we retire glib, gtk+, bubblemon, manedit and xconvers ?

2022-12-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, Dependencies on glib1 and gtk1 are only bubblemon manedit xconvers , I propose retire it on F38, it's one less burden that we have . After start working on GConf2 and after maybe gtk2 Best regards, -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list --

[rpms/perl-Bit-Vector] PR #2: Tests

2022-12-21 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
jplesnik opened a new pull-request against the project: `perl-Bit-Vector` that you are following: `` Tests `` To reply, visit the link below https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Bit-Vector/pull-request/2 ___ perl-devel mailing list --

HEADS UP: update to leptonica-1.83.0 in rawhide

2022-12-21 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi I'll be updating to leptonica-1.83.0, which brings a soname bump. I'll perform the build in the side tag f38-build-side-61349, rebuilding also the following dependencies: mupdf python-PyMuPDF tesseract zathura-pdf-mupdf Thanks Sandro ___

[Bug 2155545] Branch and build perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle for EPEL 9

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155545 Richard Shaw changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||2120957 Referenced Bugs:

[Bug 2155539] Branch and build perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect for EPEL 9

2022-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155539 Richard Shaw changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||2120957 Referenced Bugs:

Re: Going from %autosetup -S git backwards

2022-12-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miro Hrončok: > On 21. 12. 22 11:02, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Is there a lightweight tool to take the repository generated by >> %autosetup -S, with some new commits on to top, and turn that into a >> spec file update? That is, generated the new patches, and make a >> conservative change to

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:53:05PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is > > already going to use FAT. > > Doesn't

[Bug 2155545] New: Branch and build perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle for EPEL 9

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[Bug 2155539] New: Branch and build perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect for EPEL 9

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[Bug 2155345] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20221220 is available

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Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 21/12/2022 13:17, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Is that something you need in /boot? Yes. And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for the journal. Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice because

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 7:17 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:53:05PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > > is used for the same functional pupose as

Re: Going from %autosetup -S git backwards

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:48 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:02 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > Is there a lightweight tool to take the repository generated by > > %autosetup -S, with some new commits on to top, and turn that into a > > spec file update? That is,

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 at 12:31, Vít Ondruch wrote: [...] > Let me put together a few points to sum this up: > > 1) DNF name is well established, keep the DNF name (and forget about YUM). > > 2) Keep the compatibility on reasonable level. 100% compatibility is myth > (even between the

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:53:05PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot > > is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is > > already going to use FAT. > > Doesn't

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2022-12-19 at 19:45 +, Smith, Stewart via devel wrote: > > > On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Miro Hrončok > > wrote: > > > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > > for sure > > that

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 21/12/2022 12:38, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: Why shouldn't FAT be used for /boot. In an EFI world, /boot is used for the same functional pupose as the ESP, which is already going to use FAT. Doesn't support links, lournaling and ACLs. Everyone can do whatever they want with the files, and

Re: Going from %autosetup -S git backwards

2022-12-21 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:02 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > Is there a lightweight tool to take the repository generated by > %autosetup -S, with some new commits on to top, and turn that into a > spec file update? That is, generated the new patches, and make a > conservative change to the spec

Re: Going from %autosetup -S git backwards

2022-12-21 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 21. 12. 22 11:02, Florian Weimer wrote: Is there a lightweight tool to take the repository generated by %autosetup -S, with some new commits on to top, and turn that into a spec file update? That is, generated the new patches, and make a conservative change to the spec file? We have this

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:22:25PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 20/12/2022 19:56, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Great. The gotcha though is this in effect requires a change in the file > > system currently mounted at /boot, which is ext4. And ext4 isn't supported > > by sd-boot or UEFI

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 21/12/2022 12:27, Neal Gompa wrote: We should not endeavor to create more problems by putting more stuff in the ESP. These drivers must be located in firmware-readable location, i.e. ESP. No matter what boot manager we use, we should not be required to give that up. We already have

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21. 12. 22 v 11:40 Jaroslav Mracek napsal(a): I am really sorry, but could we start the discussion from beginning? We use many personal opinion but we provide very limited set of facts. I will try to summary some facts related to the naming topic. We developed a new software management

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:23 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 20/12/2022 19:56, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Great. The gotcha though is this in effect requires a change in the file > > system currently mounted at /boot, which is ext4. And ext4 isn't supported > > by sd-boot or UEFI

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20/12/2022 19:56, Chris Murphy wrote: Great. The gotcha though is this in effect requires a change in the file system currently mounted at /boot, which is ext4. And ext4 isn't supported by sd-boot or UEFI firmware. So if you're going to support sd-boot, the installer needs to be aware that

[EPEL-devel] Re: Updating tox to 4 in EPEL 9

2022-12-21 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 21. 12. 22 5:44, Carl George wrote: I would prefer using the incompat process [0] to upgrade epel9's python-tox to version 4, and introducing a python-tox3 compat package. We could use the same naming scheme in Fedora if it makes any sense to keep tox 3 around there for some period of time.

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
I am really sorry, but could we start the discussion from beginning? We use many personal opinion but we provide very limited set of facts. I will try to summary some facts related to the naming topic. We developed a new software management tool to replace DNF, MICRODNF, DNF libraries and

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > Main motivation for this move is to make the distro more robust and more > > secure. > > Improving security would be great, but it must be done in a way that > allows the sysadmin to configure and repair the system and authorize

[rpms/perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP] PR #1: Package tests and update license to SPDX format

2022-12-21 Thread Michal Josef Špaček
mspacek merged a pull-request against the project: `perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP` that you are following. Merged pull-request: `` Package tests and update license to SPDX format `` https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP/pull-request/1

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > But why start doing UKI without first fixing the need of host specific > initrd and commandline. We are trying to tackle that in parallel. At least when generating virtual machine images we can temporarily workaround that with short %post scripts in kickstart files. > I am sure even

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 05:11:57PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 4:27 PM Simo Sorce wrote: > > > On Tue, 2022-12-20 at 14:29 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > Yeah, I seriously doubt this. Linux's model for supporting > > > confidential computing is not user-friendly, so I expect

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 02:29:22PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:02 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > In the Fedora case, things are simpler right up until we hit graphics > > > drivers. This is also a problem for VMs too, because GPU passthrough > > > is a common case

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 04:31:20PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2022-12-20 at 20:42 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > I note that taking away the kernel command line is indeed a clearly > > stated goal, which will limit Fedora to simple, appliance-like uses. > > And if you chose your HW

Going from %autosetup -S git backwards

2022-12-21 Thread Florian Weimer
Is there a lightweight tool to take the repository generated by %autosetup -S, with some new commits on to top, and turn that into a spec file update? That is, generated the new patches, and make a conservative change to the spec file? Thanks, Florian

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > Main motivation for this move is to make the distro more robust and more > > secure. > > Improving security would be great, but it must be done in a way that > allows the sysadmin to configure and repair the system and authorize

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 03:31:10AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > PS (adding to my previous reply): > > Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > The immediate need for UKIs is indeed related to SecureBoot and > > TPMs. These are a core technology foundation of the confidential > > virtual machine

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 02:56:41PM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 12/20/22 10:22, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_Kernel_Support_Phase_1 > > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > > process, proposals are publicly

[rpms/perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP] PR #1: Package tests and update license to SPDX format

2022-12-21 Thread Michal Josef Špaček
mspacek opened a new pull-request against the project: `perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP` that you are following: `` Package tests and update license to SPDX format `` To reply, visit the link below https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Test-POE-Server-TCP/pull-request/1

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > * Enhance parted/libparted to support arbitrary GUIDs and enhance blivet to > understand the full listing of GUIDs? Or parted is done, blivet still todo. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1075288#c7 > the CLI tool seems not to support it but maybe fdisk does. sfdisk supports

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