Re: guided/interactive/scripted tutorials

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 January 2014 23:02, Richard Fearn richardfe...@gmail.com wrote: You may have used this kind of thing - it tells you 'click this next' and waits until you do. As you might expect, googling for anything along these lines without having a very precise set of keywords only returns pages of

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 January 2014 23:07, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote: On 01/29/2014 07:10 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I consider myself

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 January 2014 22:44, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 January 2014 15:01, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29,

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 January 2014 23:58, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I consider myself squarely in the middle of those two camps. I think they have value to people. I think they fill a niche, however large or small it might be. I also think they can be done by the people wishing to

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 January 2014 00:01, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Two thoughts: 1. Is there scope for a spin to be a particular sub-focus of a product? Desktop (all) . desktop gnome . desktop kde . desktop twm (maybe not) Server (all) . server web . server fileserver (or whatever might make

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 January 2014 06:48, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 11:52 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 27 January 2014 05:36, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 January 2014 07:05, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 22:48 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 11:52 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 27 January 2014 05:36, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 23 January 2014 21:57, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:54 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 13:48 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: To be honest my concerns are more with

Re: icecat or/and firefox?

2014-01-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 January 2014 05:36, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: Hi, Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a more free version firefox. I'd argue it's *less* free since it seeks to restrict what you can do: Finally, we need to

Re: Fedora.next in 2014 -- Big Picture and Themes

2014-01-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 January 2014 13:06, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/27/2014 05:36 AM, Ian Malone wrote: does this mean there will be things unavailable on some 'products' that are not on others? No. The Products will be defining an environment and a standard install set

guided/interactive/scripted tutorials

2014-01-26 Thread Ian Malone
I'm looking for something and not quite sure what it's called. In thinking about what the music SIG can do to add value I've hit on wondering whether it's possible to write desktop-based guided tutorials without having to interfere in the application in question itself (otherwise you have to

Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

2014-01-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 January 2014 20:13, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Am 24.01.2014 19:31, schrieb Reindl Harald: and try the however named option, keep in mind some people own only one machine and can't google for help I doubt that. Most people do have multiple ways to access the internet (multiple

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 January 2014 15:13, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2014 6:26 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com said: nod Just have yum drop a config file in there that protects the kernel rather than protecting the

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 January 2014 13:06, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: I don't even remember I ever needed yum remove kernel. Does it mean that yum remove kernel should not work at all no matter if it leaves running kernel on the system or not? Or should it be completely prohibited? Why we keep 3

Re: [pkgdb2] call for testers, bug reports and RFE

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 November 2013 16:59, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 04:57:38PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:52:27 +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: The development instance of pkgdb2 is at: http://209.132.184.188/ That page says

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-17 Thread Ian Malone
On 17 November 2013 04:33, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:50:11PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Oh, hey, look. That place is rapidly becoming the 'crap, we don't know where to put this' dumping ground for GNOME 3, isn't it? It has been there since 3.0 AFAIK, so

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 November 2013 15:06, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 01:35:41 +, Ian Malone wrote: Please don't let it install applications, which cannot be started via the graphical desktop user interface (such as a menu system or a list of installed Applications

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 November 2013 20:55, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:02:46 +, Ian Malone wrote: You are arguing that system management should only be possible through a GUI where the affected components are themselves graphical. No, not at all. Please take some

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 November 2013 21:47, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: Hi, The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-08 Thread Ian Malone
On 8 November 2013 00:11, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: HI On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Honestly, I don't think Software is really aimed at your use case, and you may as well just keep using yum. It's meant to be a cool way to find

Re: F20 KDE session login options

2013-09-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 September 2013 08:34, Martin Briza mbr...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:17:48 +0200, Michael Catanzaro mike.catanz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 00:13 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: 1. This is the case for the KDE live CD install too. 2. Where the custom session

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 September 2013 08:05, Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/10/2013 08:25 AM, Dan Horák wrote: I did a TC5 minimal install last night, which omitted mc, my most used cmdline tool. So: # yum install mc ... installing for dependencies: gpm-libs (which I never ever use) perl*

F20 KDE session login options

2013-09-11 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, Looking at the installed login session options from SDDM on F20 Alpha TC5 for Fedora Jam x86_64 there is a session listed 'custom' alongside failsafe, KDE and KDE failsafe. This option doesn't log in to anything and kicks the user back to the login screen, it also seems to be the default

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-09-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 September 2013 06:45, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:54 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Thank you for the put down. However, firstly I'm not referring to the fqdn issue, but the mention of dropping user name and secondly I'm not the administrator of all

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-09-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 August 2013 15:50, Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 08:21 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said: - The user@ is mostly useless; if you su/sudo to root, the character at the end of the prompt changes from

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-09-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 September 2013 20:53, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2013 07:53 PM, Ian Malone wrote: I'd like to add myself as another datapoint for 'uses different users', and often via ssh. In any case, that bash prompt trick surely only works if applied to all user profiles

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 August 2013 01:53, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Just to follow up, thanks, your instructions for building worked fine (I'd worried it wouldn't be so straightforward). Thought I'd best mention koji

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 August 2013 13:32, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Strange. The source is definitely still on that machine. I'll look into why it's not showing up on the webpage. Ok, you can clone it with: git

Re: [RFC] Easiest making kernel rpms from upstream git

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 28 August 2013 14:53, Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com wrote: Today I've wrote article w/ many notes about bisecting kernel [0], but I've used make bzImage, make install and the same commands bypassing RPM and I have IMHO good idea to write utility, that will be build rpm w/o/

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-28 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: That shouldn't really be an issue for the most part. It would only impact you if you're hitting issues in an area where the config options differ between releases, and those are fairly uncommon. You can try using koji

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 August 2013 16:38, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Friday, August 23, 2013 08:34 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013,

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 August 2013 19:29, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Each approved spin MUST have at least 1 person fill in a basic spin test matrix for at least 1 TC or RC in order to be shipped with Alpha. If the image fails or there are no test results maintainers can try again at the next

bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-20 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora kernel packages? I found a koji bisect thing, but the last known good kernel is prior to the fedora release the machine is currently running, so not sure that

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-20 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora kernel packages

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-30 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 July 2013 03:32, Subhendu Ghosh sghosh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: In the OS/App differentiation, you are expecting each is coming from a different source. Apps are either boxed, or coming from a project. The

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-03 Thread Ian Malone
On 3 July 2013 08:47, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le mercredi 03 juillet 2013 à 09:44 +0200, Johannes Lips a écrit : On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-03 Thread Ian Malone
On 3 July 2013 20:48, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On 2013-07-03 2:28, Ian Malone wrote: Tooling issues aside (and it is undesireable that bugs should get marked fixed if they haven't been) I think this rule is wrong under a strict reading. If an update claims to fix two bugs

Re: What to move to?

2013-05-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 May 2013 11:21, Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/18/2013 01:08 AM, Björn Persson wrote: Florian Weimer wrote: Yes, Ada has some nice features. At least there are real arrays, but they are somewhat cumbersome to work with, compared to Java, Python or, well, C pointers.

timeliness Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 May 2013 05:44, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2013-05-09 00:02 (GMT-0400) Adam Williamson composed: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 22:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-05-08 10:09 (GMT+0200) Pierre-Yves Chibon composed: you are replying to a 4 days old email on a thread

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 May 2013 23:42, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 15:22:01 -0700 Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI?decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 May 2013 19:23, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Another opinion. It is possible to study such things, and even give caveats and error bounds to show uncertainty. Yes and no. It's possible it a tightly defined setting with specified outcomes. Since a crucial factors here

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 March 2013 08:04, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism. snip If we have to compromise on just papering it

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí m...@marcdeop.com wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: Fixing an apostrophe – no Umlaut, not apostrophe. Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes The issue here is not only about the Fedora's release name rather

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a bit silly. The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a triviality that should be worked on at some

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 March 2013 11:41, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Le Mar 19 mars 2013 12:27, Ian Malone a écrit : On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit : and holding up the release for what

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Malone
On 19 March 2013 12:20, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 19.3.2013 12:23, Ian Malone napsal(a): On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí m...@marcdeop.com wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote: Fixing an apostrophe – no Umlaut, not apostrophe

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 March 2013 22:13, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: Why should the default configuration be ugly, slow, and biased toward handling the odd case when things break ? I confess I've only been lightly skimming this entire deeply interesting thread, on which more man hours have almost

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 March 2013 12:46, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 03/13/2013 12:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: - (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to less-knowledgeable users. I'd call this to be

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 March 2013 15:07, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 13.3.2013 14:23, Ian Malone napsal(a): Are teens and pre-teens fedora's main target audience now? I'm really not sure what it is anymore. Are you suggesting that we should exclude them? Yes okay, that's what I'm suggesting

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 March 2013 20:43, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: If some text like Press Esc now to choose which operating system to boot. would be displayed, then the pause would need to be

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-06 Thread Ian Malone
On 5 March 2013 17:52, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:44:39 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: This is local testing that has been done in concert with the feature to add enterprise login support to Anaconda/firstboot. There's currently no way to

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 21 February 2013 18:24, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 08:04 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 19 February 2013 12:13, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote: Question: does a python segfault from a broken script indicate a python bug as well? The scripting

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 February 2013 10:37, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: I'm trying to collect feedback, I'd expect some respect instead of one liners. Loads of people working in Fedora don't follow devel@ because of the attitude displayed here. I often get questioned wtf I spend the time to proceed

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 February 2013 12:57, Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 02/18/2013 07:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 18 February 2013 10:37, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: I'm trying to collect feedback, I'd expect some respect instead of one liners. Loads of people working

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 February 2013 22:24, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: On record? Is there going to be a trial? What frustrates me is it's such an uphill battle. Step 1: Everything changes. Step 2: Users protest, some leave. Step 3: Supporters respond there's nothing wrong

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 February 2013 12:52, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 09 février 2013 à 11:34 +, Ian Malone a écrit : On 9 February 2013 00:37, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote: * Gnome 3's target

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 February 2013 12:25, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: * Gnome 3 is going the I-know-better-then-you-what's-good-for-you way. Sure by giving you an extension system that allows you to do whatever you want

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 February 2013 07:15, Casey Dahlin cdah...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:34:34AM +, Ian Malone wrote: Gnome 2 slowly returned to the old behaviour in many ways. Gnome 3 is starting to do this. As someone who, I presume, does not like Gnome 3, and as someone who, I

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 February 2013 00:37, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote: * Gnome 3's target audience does not enclose majority of Gnome 2's target audience, though it *does* have some intersection. Many of those are

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-05 Thread Ian Malone
On 5 February 2013 20:10, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't say Fedora follows blindly but rather chooses an upstream from some alternatives (their ability to handle feedback from us beeing one ot the criterias). Gnome has been the default, unless I'm misremebering since

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is to set LC_ALL to a known-good locale, but then your users get no benefit from the

Re: Command line arguments depend on locale

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Malone
On 31 January 2013 15:04, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 January 2013 09:07, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Benny Amorsen wrote: This makes it difficult to call system commands. The only workaround is to set LC_ALL to a known

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 January 2013 01:19, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/17/2013 07:00 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Yes, I'd veto btrfs as the default as well. I lost a huge chunk of data on a btrfs partition a while back, with *no* diagnostics, recovery tools, help from Google, etc.

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

2013-01-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 January 2013 17:19, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/18/2013 10:50 AM, Ian Malone wrote: I suggest sdfs as the new default filesystem, you cannot veto it, but highlighting critical bugs will be beneficial. Please post bugzilla links rather than descriptions of the issues

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 January 2013 19:07, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:01:03 + Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: KDE favourites: For a spin (or formula) it makes sense that the favourites should reflect the spin (or formula) focus. The kickstart updates this through

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 January 2013 17:02, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: KDE favourites: For a spin (or formula) it makes sense that the favourites should reflect the spin (or formula) focus. The kickstart updates this through /etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc and /etc/rc.d

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 January 2013 23:51, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Brendan Jones wrote: The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned by other packages. This is just plain impossible anyway

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 January 2013 04:10, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 January 2013 12:23, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You could only try out the formula on an installed system. It looks though like people are already suggesting overlaying a formula somehow to create traditional

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2012 15:25, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:20:55 -0500 (EST), Jaroslav Reznik wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve

Re: Am I the only one who missed the election?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2012 16:02, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:28:22 +, Ian Malone wrote: I think this is not good - every contributor should be subscribed to announce list (with cla_done). So you're blaming people who didn't recieve the email

Re: Nvidia driver in F18?

2012-11-30 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 November 2012 10:58, Erwin Waterlander water...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi, Has the Nvidia driver been improved in f18? I have an Nvidia GeForce GT220. When I upgraded from f14 to f16 and then to f17 I had to go through a lot of trouble, because Anaconda gave me a black screen every time

Re: Problem with jack update

2012-11-16 Thread Ian Malone
On 15 November 2012 23:20, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 November 2012 04:40, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A few months ago earlier in the F-17 release cycle, we had a problem with jackd turning verbose, flooding the stdout, even when its verbosity

Re: Problem with jack update

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 15 November 2012 04:40, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A few months ago earlier in the F-17 release cycle, we had a problem with jackd turning verbose, flooding the stdout, even when its verbosity was turned off. This was a bug [1] in the compiler, specifically in the

pulseaudio issue, any dbus exports?

2012-11-06 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, I'm trying to sort out a pulseaudio issue. It's failing to acknowledge a request (from Jack) to release a device. I've tried the pulseaudio list but haven't had any answers. The full thread is here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2012-November/015210.html This is

Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

2012-11-02 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 November 2012 17:33, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: I didn't want to throw this grenade into the debate, but now someone else has, I'll just note that I was in favour of this before and I'm still in favour of it now. :) Rolling release is a model that

Re: [FYI] Motif finally opened under LGPL

2012-10-25 Thread Ian Malone
On 25 October 2012 14:43, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at this point? It's been a few years I looked at this, but the lesstif implementation was incomlete/buggy and

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 September 2012 13:13, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com Bugzilla goes by .src.rpm name not binary rpm name. rpm -qi can tell you the .src.rpm from which any binary package was built. I used to get tripped up on this too and I've been doing Linux

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-26 Thread Ian Malone
On 26 September 2012 01:04, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 01:25 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: All official Fedora composes are done using spin-kickstarts git, not the packaged spin-kickstarts. The packaged spin-kickstarts tends to lag behind git rather a lot

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-26 Thread Ian Malone
On 26 September 2012 22:42, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-26 at 10:42 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: Okay, thanks. That seems to have fixed a number of issues for me. The wodim/genisoimage problem I originally reported has stopped complaining, though that seems

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-25 Thread Ian Malone
On 25 September 2012 01:25, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 September 2012 00:27, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 23:17, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: On 09/24/2012 03:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: The command is this: livecd-creator --config

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 September 2012 18:35, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2012 02:26 AM, Ian Malone wrote: There's also a: Skipping missing group 'base' at the start of the livecd-creator process. What repository are you pointing the install at? The base group should exist

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 24 September 2012 23:17, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: On 09/24/2012 03:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: The command is this: livecd-creator --config=/fedora-jam/fedora-live-jam-kde-raw.ks --fslabel=Fedora18-Jam --cache=/var/cache/live --releasever=18 $ grep id /var/cache/live

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 25 September 2012 00:27, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2012 23:17, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: On 09/24/2012 03:00 PM, Ian Malone wrote: The command is this: livecd-creator --config=/fedora-jam/fedora-live-jam-kde-raw.ks --fslabel=Fedora18-Jam

dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-02 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, think this is a dependency bug, though thought I'd check here before filing it. I'm building a F18 compose in a F18 mock root and getting these two errors, I've added coreutils explicitly to the kickstart, but it doesn't get installed till later in the process. readlink: Installing:

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 August 2012 15:13, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 August 2012 14:33, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/14/2012 03:49 AM, Ian Malone wrote: I'm trying to build a spin on F16 against F17 (specifically the fedora-jam spin, ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git/music

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 August 2012 15:10, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 August 2012 15:02, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/14/2012 12:45 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 14 August 2012 08:49, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, have you go the latest version

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 15 August 2012 17:44, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build a spin on F16 against F17 (specifically the fedora-jam spin, ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git/music-creation spin-kickstarts/fedora-jam/fedora-live

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 15 August 2012 17:52, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote: On 08/15/2012 10:44 AM, Brian C. Lane wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build a spin on F16 against F17 (specifically the fedora-jam spin, ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git

building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, I'm trying to build a spin on F16 against F17 (specifically the fedora-jam spin, ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git/music-creation spin-kickstarts/fedora-jam/fedora-live-jam-kde.ks, with the mono-bristol package removed). I'm using the command: # setenforce 0 # livecd-creator

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 August 2012 08:49, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build a spin on F16 against F17 (specifically the fedora-jam spin, ssh://git.fedorahosted.org/git/music-creation spin-kickstarts/fedora-jam/fedora-live-jam-kde.ks, with the mono-bristol package removed). I'm

Re: building compose, selinux problems

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 August 2012 15:02, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/14/2012 12:45 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 14 August 2012 08:49, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, have you go the latest version? There was an missing EOF tag in one of the cat statements which could

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 June 2012 13:31, Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Roman Kennke rken...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:15:14 PM Subject: Re: Important kernel

Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-03 Thread Ian Malone
On 3 May 2012 00:16, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2012 10:16, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 12:00 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: However, one pre-upgrade bug that may prevent you installing and is not on the blockers list: The blocker list

Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-02 Thread Ian Malone
On 2 May 2012 10:16, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 12:00 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: However, one pre-upgrade bug that may prevent you installing and is not on the blockers list: The blocker list is specifically intended to be open to nominations. We still

Re: Fedora 17 Change Freeze

2012-05-01 Thread Ian Malone
On 1 May 2012 19:30, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, the fedora 17 schedule http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule lists the final change freeze as 2012-05-07 this means that you need to make sure that any changes you

Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 April 2012 01:05, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-04-26 10:50 AM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, W dniu 9 kwietnia 2012 17:46 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17

Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

2012-04-24 Thread Ian Malone
On 23 April 2012 14:06, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I'm not against release names because some people are supposed to have been offended by the words 'Beefy Miracle' I don't know about offended, it just sounds silly. Maybe it's a UK/US thing, or that it started as a RedHat

Re: plug software for fender mustang

2012-04-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 April 2012 10:42, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: Is it acceptable to repackage the tarball too? The prep stage seems to expect a particular structure within it. %setup takes some arguments to deal with strange tarballs. That looks like the thing, thanks

Re: plug software for fender mustang

2012-04-03 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 March 2012 00:25, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote: IM == Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com writes: IM So, what's the next step? If necessary I can volunteer to maintain IM it myself (and would have to volunteer as a maintainer), but would IM be more than happy for someone else

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