Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 05:40:39PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? +1 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 06:19:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 27.07.11 17:40, Roman Rakus (rra...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi all, from the discussion here, I'm tempted to revert the change. Any objections? Yes. I am for keeping it in, and have prepped a patch for XDG basedir

F16 not ready to accept builds?

2011-07-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
fedpkg build says ... Could not initiate build: Unknown build target: dist-f16-updates-candidate Is this just a taking-time-to-set-it-up issue, or am I doing something wrong? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog:

Re: F16 not ready to accept builds?

2011-07-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:39:56AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:36:00 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: fedpkg build says ... Could not initiate build: Unknown build target: dist-f16-updates-candidate Is this just a taking-time-to-set-it-up

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:35:29AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/30/2011 06:49 PM, Dan Williams wrote: What's unique about the method described there is that the Mac configures the interface with the same IP address it

Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Below are two packages. The first one is installed, the second one is built for Koji. Yum refuses to upgrade the installed package to the second one, saying: Examining qemu-0.15.0-0.2.2011072859fadcc.fc17.x86_64.rpm: 2:qemu-0.15.0-0.2.2011072859fadcc.fc17.x86_64

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 02:20:53PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: You can't bring a policy to FESCO, fail to turn up to any of the meetings and then be surprised if the enacted proposal doesn't perfectly match yours. The ticket was flagged meeting up until the point where it was closed which

Re: Need input for creating new icon

2011-08-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:21:17AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Of course with this method SVG is not an option If you _did_ have an SVG, then I can tell you that this is the only format you need. GNOME and XFCE appear to be happy to generate all the required icons and sizes needed from a

Re: RFC: Fedora-medical comps patch

2011-08-20 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:28:38AM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hello, You may have noticed a lot of packaging activity on the fedora-medical front[1]. There are still quite a few packages in the review queue. Some have been approved, and we'd like to get started with the comps group. I've

Re: Orphaning techtalk-pse

2011-08-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:29:54AM -0500, Ian Weller wrote: I am orphaning the techtalk-pse package because the Gtk2::MozEmbed perl module will no longer be maintained in Fedora because gtkmozembed support has been removed from xulrunner. If upstream (or anybody) has the time to work on

Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:47:37PM -0500, David Lehman wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 23:13 -0700, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I have tried installing Fedora 16 alpha (i386 version) on VMWare player and it dies starting up the installer. It also dies trying to install on my CTL 2GO pad.

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 08:08:20AM +, Andre Robatino wrote: Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com writes: 768 MB!!! When I want to stuff as many VMs onto a virtual machine as possible, RAM usage really matters. Particularly since RAM is currently cheap up to about 8 GB

Re: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide

2011-08-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 08:32:01AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:42:18 +0300, KL (Kalev) wrote: On 08/29/2011 02:54 PM, Karel Zak wrote: I'd like to remove: ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this

Orphaned: vpnc

2011-08-30 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/vpnc vpnc is a VPN client compatible with Cisco EasyVPN. Although I use vpnc daily, I only need/use the old version in RHEL 5, and I don't have a machine on which I can conveniently study Fedora bug reports. Therefore I have released ownership of

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:36:52PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700, Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not

Re: Zombies!

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:43:15PM +0300, Kalev Lember wrote: On 08/31/2011 12:20 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Attached is the output of 'ps afx' on my Fedora 16(-ish) laptop. Scroll down to the bottom and the subject line of this email will make more sense. I can't find anything

Re: Zombies!

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 02:21:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 31.08.11 12:43, Kalev Lember (kalevlem...@gmail.com) wrote: On 08/31/2011 12:20 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Attached is the output of 'ps afx' on my Fedora 16(-ish) laptop. Scroll down to the bottom

Re: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Yes, it was a joke and off-topic for this list. (Not on my blog though ..) Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen

Re: [HEADS UP] Fedora OCaml link down

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 01:17:44PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I was looking for stuff on your website and noticed that the Fedora OCaml project link is down: http://www.cocan.org/getting_started_with_ocaml_on_red_hat_and_fedora Yes, this has unfortunately been broken for a while. It

Re: What's the best way to compare dotted version strings from a script?

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 06:20:35PM +0100, David Howells wrote: Is there a program or script installed/installable by Fedora that can be used to compare dotted version strings (eg. 1.5.2) from a shell script? For non-RPM version strings, try 'sort -V'. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 10:28:19PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:20:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Is there a specific reason glibc does this? Yes. Can it not have a set of patches, one per change, as is usual practice? Fedora glibc sources are from git,

What is Error: Protected multilib versions: ...?

2011-09-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I get this error all the time, but I can't find a coherent explanation for what it means. What is the precise meaning of the protected multilib versions error? # yum install /lib/ld-linux.so.2 [...] Error: Protected multilib versions: glibc-2.14.90-4.i686 != glibc-2.14.90-1.x86_64 # yum

Re: FYI, rawhide makes /usr/bin/install (matchpathcon) segfault

2011-09-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:44:36PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: ... $ touch a $ env -i /usr/bin/install a b zsh: segmentation fault env -i /usr/bin/install a b [Exit 139 (SEGV)] Rich Jones found that updating to libselinux-2.1.5-2.fc17.x86_64 made it so

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 03:27:15PM -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Well, yes, that parallel came up in my mind too, but really, the two aren't particularly similar. I don't think there's any intent to obfuscate in the

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:18:51PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On 11/09/11 09:33, Jim Meyering wrote: darrell pfeifer wrote: Fails for me too, with the same error. Thanks for confirming that. I don't mean to be rude or inflammatory, but do have to wonder how such

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:11:50AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: Is not rawhide the sanity check, Yes. even if used productively by many? That's the problem then. Rawhide is explicitly labeled as NOT being intended nor suitable for any sort of production use. This

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 01:02:26AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 08:56 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I thought AutoQA was going to do this, but it's been disappointing. AutoQA is under active development, still. It's a complex project. I hope I can make

Re: What do rawhide testers want and expect?

2011-09-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:57:34AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level of pain does

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:03:04AM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi 2011/9/13 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com: (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd files.) I used this service file on F15 and it

grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
This is about: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737261 F16 TC2 DVD grub/grub2 conflict The grub package in F16 has a Conflicts: grub2 line. There are no actual file conflicts, but this was added in order to workaround some bugs in grubby, including: -

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:31:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead. No. It is not sane to have multiple bootloaders installed on one machine. There's

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:46:34AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead. We certainly can't do that without at least first fixing other problems. Could you explain (preferably with a full

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: We're talking about guest creation, aren't we? No, we're talking about fixing and resizing existing guests, where grub-install needs to be run to fix the bootloader. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I will simply say that this is not my view of what happened. In any case I hope we can be more excellent about this now. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:46:34AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: On 09/15/2011 10:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: libguestfs, as I guess is well known, uses tools from the host in order to manage guests. Honestly I don't think this is that well known, and looking at it I'm amazed this passed

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:25:41PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 04:21:36PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:59:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: We're talking about guest creation, aren't we? No, we're talking about fixing

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:16:29AM +0200, Jan F. Chadima wrote: It amazes me how much energy people spend on it to save 3 seconds a day. Of course, if the computer being turned daily. In the case of a server time saving is even more amazing. Virtualization changes things. The way _I_ use

Re: When are Qemu SPARC/PPC coming back?

2011-09-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 07:29:09PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: The context for this question can be found here: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/virt-maint/2011-March/002289.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679179 So the summary is that openbios needs to be

Re: Virtualization Test Day for F16 and Xen

2011-09-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:14:23PM +0300, Myroslav Opyr wrote: Hi, What Xen implementation is considered supported for FC16 DomU? Any commonly available upstream Xen releases. Fedora itself (ie. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0). Also Xen in RHEL 5, although that's more

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 01:43:53PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:31 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2011 17:36, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Here is how yum does

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 03:01:06PM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: Of course, if you are doing all this, it does beg the question of why libguestfs couldn't simply mount both the root and boot partitions of the guest vm, chroot into the root fs, then issue all the above grub commands using the

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 02:52:58AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: seth vidal wrote: That you've implemented a depsolver for use with PK that does not match yum nor anaconda is pretty bad. You've chosen intentional incompatibility. That's neither helpful nor really embodying the goals I like

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 08:08:24AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2011 07:21, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: ... and no way to access yum information from anything other than Python, which makes it harder to use more professional programming languages and yum data

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I meant to add this link to the current Python-subprocess code: http://git.annexia.org/?p=febootstrap.git;a=blob;f=src/febootstrap_yum_rpm.ml;h=028492a0d3c894e7cb2c85b446f6bff272217147;hb=HEAD#l35 Note the extra backslashes and double %%'s are because the Python code is contained in a

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:54:35AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2011 10:38, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Yeah, it looks possible. The very fact that you're exposing a C API and a library is a promising start, even if it didn't yet do specifically what I needed

FYI: ocamlnet in Rawhide updated to (incompatible) upstream version 3.4

2011-09-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
ocamlnet 2.x and 3.x are not compatible. I stuck with ocamlnet 2.x for quite a long time because some other packages dependended on the old API. However ocamlnet 3.x has now been around for well over a year, so it's time to follow upstream. There may be some breakage from this change, but I'll

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:05:47AM -0500, Matyas Selmeci wrote: Matthew Garrett wrote on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 05:00:28PM +0100: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:51:26AM -0500, Matyas Selmeci wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 01:02:26PM +0200: Michael Schroeder wrote:

Re: rawhide report: 20110921 changes

2011-09-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 01:43:16PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: cduce-0.5.3-8.fc15.x86_64 requires ocaml(Unixqueue) = 0:5f2882e466b57c733efe14816d08229e All these ocaml broken deps are because of the update to ocamlnet noted on this list a couple of days ago. I will attempt to push new

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 03:54:28PM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: Yes, but this will hardly help the situation, which right now is that the distro pulls in grub 2, because that's what we've collectively chosen to do, and libguestfs pulls in grub on the host, even though it isn't really using it

Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 09:05:19PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Given the grub1/grub2 discussion that is going on, I could use some info about the state of grubby's support for grub1. The virtual machine images that the Cloud SIG publishes on Amazon EC2 do not require bootloaders, but

Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 09:58:53AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: (In short, pvgrub! I thought that was dead and buried a long time ago ..) Of course I'm confusing this with PyGrub, that was the old horrible thing. PvGrub is the shiny new thing. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:37:39PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:18:09PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:00 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: grub provides no mechanism for you to know that, which means you can't reliably know that. Which

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:18:48PM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: On 09/22/2011 02:02 PM, David Airlie wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:18:09PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:00 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: grub provides no mechanism for you to know that, which means

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:38:26AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:18 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: You described yourself how libguestfs could check it. And failing libguestfs doing it, the user could be warned to check it. 'check' it? And what's the user expected

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:45:11AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 09/22/2011 02:02 PM, David Airlie wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 05:18:09PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:00 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: grub

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:51:40PM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: Oh, my mistake. That being beside the point, it pretty much means any VM created in a previous OS release won't work. In any case I totally disagree with your idea of security, as I mentioned at the time. It makes things worse, not

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:58:35PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:44:00PM -0400, David Airlie wrote: Nicely editing out of the other use-case I supplied. grub and grub2 *packages* don't install into the same few bytes. I thought you were good at backing up

Re: GitPython 0.3.2 RC1 and consumers

2011-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:54:35PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: I'm upgrading GitPython from 0.2x to 0.3 in rawhide. There are some changes that require consumers to do some minor porting, briefly outlined at http://packages.python.org/GitPython/0.3.2/whatsnew.html#guided-upgrade I don't

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 05:13:46PM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: Hi, Anyone want to review this one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734531 I'm sure a lot of Fedora users are awaiting this update. Questions ... Are we going to obsolete these packages:

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:55:43AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 09/27/2011 07:46 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison213 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison227 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:10:32PM -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2011 10:20 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The problem here is that upstream has no desire to keep a common protocol, so you need the exact version on both ends. (If I recall

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. Anyone who wants to fiddle with large ext4 filesystems, have at it please! Is there any background information to this change that I can read? I created a 2**60

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 11:32:18AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:22:28 +0200 Gregor Tätzner gre...@freenet.de wrote: Any news from the FESCO team? What's the conclusion of this discussion? No one has officially asked fesco... Please file a ticket what you actually

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:10:43PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 10/3/11 1:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 02:51:33PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: Another little heads up - a newer snapshot is built in rawhide now. Anyone who wants to fiddle with large ext4

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:11:28PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: testing something more real-world (20T ... 500T?) might still be interesting. Here's my test script: qemu-img create -f qcow2 test1.img 500T \ guestfish -a test1.img \ memsize 4096 : run : \ part-disk /dev/vda gpt

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 05:33:47PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 10/3/11 5:13 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: At 100T it doesn't run out of memory, but the man behind the curtain starts to show. The underlying qcow2 file grows to several gigs and I had to kill it. I need to play

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
100T seems to work for light use. I can create the filesystem, mount it, write files and directories and read them back, and fsck doesn't report any problems. Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/vda199T 129M 94T 1% /sysroot Linux (none)

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 09:58:59AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: right; for large ext4 fs use (or testing), try # mkfs.ext4 -E lazy_itable_init=1 /dev/blah this will cause it to skip inode table initialization, and speed up mkfs a LOT. It'll also keep sparse test images smaller. IMHO this

Re: Heads up: e2fsprogs-1.42-WIP-0702 pushed to rawhide

2011-10-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:42:37AM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 10/5/11 9:58 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 10/4/11 6:53 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: ... Note that ext4 has a new feature that allows inodes to be initialized in the background, so you will see much quicker mkfs.ext4 times as

Re: Dealing with circular BuildRequires?

2011-10-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 12:02:33PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com writes: On 2011-10-05, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: For example, cairo BuildRequires: librsvg2-devel, and librsvg2 BuildRequires: cairo-devel, so there is no order in which I can rebuild them. How

Re: tcplay: BSD-licensed alternative to TrueCrypt

2011-10-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:51:26PM -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: On 10/06/2011 04:54 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:28 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:48:57PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Sure. However, if you have multiple keys with multiple passphrases, then it's extra work to compromise each key. Not true at all. If I keep my key(s) in a single location (a secure machine at my home), then either all keys in

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:59:31PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: 2) We've found PRIVATE keys on our servers By all means educate these users with a large clue-stick. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog:

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:18:20PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:13:11 +0200 Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote: OK, but then you should not penalize also the people who keep their SSH private keys only on safe private computers. We're sorry if it's causing you

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: cryptsetup-luks name was old relict, so I decided to rename it back to cryptsetup (as in upstream and all other distros). With this change comes also update to 1.4.0 version which removes old API (not used for years) and it requires

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: libguestfs (this should require only binaries, not cryptsetup library, seems like a bug) It really needs the library, so not a bug. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-df

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:57:20PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: libguestfs (this should require only binaries, not cryptsetup library, seems like a bug) It really needs the library, so not a bug. Actually there is a bug here

Re: F16: user's secondary groups ignored

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:36:13AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 17:19 +1100, Masood wrote: Hi On a fresh install of F16, I have added wheel as a secondary group for a user using # usermod -a -G wheel masood. I have verified that /etc/group has the

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:56:40PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: cryptsetup-luks name was old relict, so I decided to rename it back to cryptsetup (as in upstream and all other distros). With this change comes also update

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 03:28:47PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: On 10/14/2011 01:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: libguestfs (this should require only binaries, not cryptsetup library, seems like a bug) It really needs

Re: PackageKit vice shell

2011-10-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 06:00:44PM +, JB wrote: Hi, this is what PackageKit does to shell: $ dmesh --help Usage: pk-command-not-found [OPTION...] PackageKit Command Not Found Help Options: -h, --help Show help options $ # yum remove PackageKit-command-not-found

Re: [HEADS UP] rename cryptsetup-luks to cryptsetup and libcrypsetup version bump

2011-10-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 05:54:45AM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: On 10/18/2011 06:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote: So I did discover a weird problem with this update. When running the libguestfs test suite, cryptsetup sometimes hangs

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 05:04:48PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: So, any suggestions, if any, to prevent any similar series of events? Do the development in Rawhide and cherry pick only well-tested bug fix commits to the stable branch (F16 in this case). Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:46:31AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 18:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: We have lots of suggestions. As I've said at least fifty times, it's pointless going too far with the slapping of band-aids on the current

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:34:46PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Jim Meyering wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: ... The only breakage in one which was approved was to do with compiling things - which, sure, is a pain in the ass, but it's not the kind of problem critpath was introduced to deal

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:56:19AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 10/25/2011 09:33 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote: On 10/25/2011 09:30 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 10/25/2011 09:15 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: It's not only an aesthetic issue. This enables possibilities, which were not doable before.

Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
It's rather too complex to explain the change here, so I suggest you go and read these first: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/184205 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/184209 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=747377#c22

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:33:28PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I strongly object to this

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:39:25PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/10/25 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:33:28PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I

Re: Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-10-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:17:54PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 18:54 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It's rather too complex to explain the change here, so I suggest you go and read these first: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/184205

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:36:57PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: [...] but /bin/mount won't mount it even if I own both the image and the mount point. You can mount things that the administrator has set up for you in /etc/fstab. Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly

Re: Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-10-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any package that was compiled against the -13 glibc package. Strictly speaking, any package that uses a function that is defined with __THROW or __NTH in the glibc header files, but it's probably easier to compile every package. Is

Re: Another glibc change that nearly got pushed into F16

2011-10-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 09:30:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 10:48 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote: On 10/26/2011 10:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I forgot to add that it's probably a good idea to recompile any package that was compiled against the -13 glibc

Re: Unreachable maintainer: Adam Miller

2011-11-01 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 05:51:10PM +0400, Dmitry Butskoy wrote: Last three months I cannot reach Adam Miller (aka maxamillion), neither by emails nor by bugzilla ticket (#733030), whereas it seems that during this period he appears sometimes here. Could anybody contact him? I had a chat

libguestfs 1.14 update for Fedora 16

2011-11-09 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I would like to put libguestfs 1.14 (the next stable branch) into Fedora 16. There should be no changes required in other packages at all, since libguestfs is API and ABI compatible for all releases, forever. Nor should users know the difference (except new features). But it's software, and we

Re: gdbm license change

2011-11-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 07:21:52PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:57:20PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 18:18 +0100, Honza Horak wrote: Hi, GNU database indexing library (gdbm) has changed its license to GPLv3+. A quick scan says

Re: rawhide report: 20111117 changes

2011-11-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:36:36PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: 1:libguestfs-1.15.3-3.fc17.i686 requires /usr/lib/libkdb5.so.5 1:libguestfs-1.15.3-3.fc17.x86_64 requires /usr/lib64/libkdb5.so.5 Should be fixed now. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
What's the story with this VirtualBox driver ... why can't it go upstream? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc.

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:20:50AM -0500, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: On 11/23/2011 10:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 11/23/2011 07:57 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: I can build glusterfs fine on real RHEL6.1 using rpmbuild, both x86_64 and i686 with `rpmbuild -bb ...` and `rpmbuild -bb

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 03:01:03PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: http://marc.info/?l=pptpclient-develm=132102054518031 This is indeed rather unexpected behaviour of make! BTW I think your patch is incomplete, since it will create an incomplete config.h if the disk runs out of space. I think this

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