Proposal to modify release criteria for fwraid

At yesterday's F29 Go/No-Go meeting, we discussed the blocker status of BZ #1628192 - Fedora 29 installation cannot see a firmware RAID device. While the blocker criteria clearly states that this should be a blocker for Beta, many of the people present at the meeting disagreed, for a variety of

Re: [modularity] Removing obsolete github repositories with module definitions

Go ahead On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 3:04 PM Adam Samalik wrote: > We have some obsolete github repositories [1] from the f26 and f27 period > we are no longer using. I feel like it might be confusing to people. So I'd > like to remove them all. Any objections? > > [1]

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

Could you try to explain what you mean in greater depth, please? > On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 22:05 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM Przemek Klosowski < >> przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: >> >>> On 09/05/2018 02:

Re: openssl 1.1 development conflicts with compat-openssl (1.0)

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 09/05/2018 02:01 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > On 09/05/2018 01:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 12:17 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > >>> Recent updates on f27 are blocked because openssl-devel (1.1)

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 12:56 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:15:26PM +0530, Parag Nemade wrote: > > > > > > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME > > > mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please > plan to > > > land the

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember wrote: > Hi all, > > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since > Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :) > > We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still > at 3.28.x or at various

Re: New policy for orphaning/retiring packages with open security bugs

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:00 AM Christian Stadelmann < genodeft...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > How does one mark a bug as CRITICAL or IMPORTANT? > These are CVE classifications and are usually assigned by the security team. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Automating Package Review (Was: fedora-review -- do we have a maintainer?)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:08 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > While I agree that this is a good idea, I have one note of caution: > What's to stop someone adding a malicious package which did something > like ‘Provides: glibc’ and subsequently infects everyone's machine? > I think we'd want to

Automating Package Review (Was: fedora-review -- do we have a maintainer?)

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:30 AM Michal Novotny wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:49 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > >> f-r currently fails to build (#1603956), it has a bunch of bugs open [1] >> and many issues and unhandled pull requests in the upstream repo [2,

Re: poppler soname bump in rawhide

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:53 AM Marek Kasik wrote: > > > On 08/14/2018 01:29 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:32 PM Marek Kasik wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm going to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.6

Re: poppler soname bump in rawhide

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 8:32 PM Marek Kasik wrote: > Hi, > > I'm going to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.67.0 now. > > There are several API changes and soname bump of the base library > libpoppler.so.*. > > I've checked all packages which depend on the libpoppler.so.* and have >

Re: Proposal: Reduce *-devel packages dependencies on other unneeded *-devel packages

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 4:39 AM Robert Marcano wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:07 PM Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Robert Marcano wrote: >> >> > For example, someone developing against krb5-devel for a GSSAPI client, >> > probably doesn't need openssl-devel installed, that they are linking >> >

Re: RFC: Pass --auto-features=enabled in meson

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:28 PM wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Josh Boyer > wrote: > > My biggest objection here is that it blindly enables things, which > > continues to make our package set a web of inter-dependencies and > > makes any attempts at minimization harder. I don't

License clarification of libmodulemd - MIT

I recently released libmodulemd 1.6.x into Fedora. It was always labeled as MIT license in the spec file and intended that way, but due to an incorrect copy-paste, most of the files in the tarball had actually been indicating that they were MITNFA instead. I fixed that upstream and 1.6.x is

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Remove Excessive Linking

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM Jan Kurik wrote: > Note from Change Wrangler: This Change Proposal requires mass rebuild. > However, two weeks ago (June 19th), we have already passed the > deadline for Change proposals requiring mass rebuild. I will leave the > decision whether this Change

Re: installing glibc-minimal-langpack in buildroots

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 5:07 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 07/06/2018 10:48 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> Either you need to change mock to set C.UTF-8, or change your proposal > to > >> install glibc-langpack-en instead of glibc-minimal-langpack. Otherwise > various > >> programs

Re: installing glibc-minimal-langpack in buildroots

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:25 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > Hi, > > Right now glibc-all-langpacks is installed in buildroots (mock, koji, …). > It is 24 MB, out of the total of 145 MB. Replacing it with > glibc-minimal-langpack, > which has negligible size, would

Re: Change DNF to use Zchunk for F29

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:09 PM Igor Gnatenko < ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 5:04 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Igor Gnatenko < >> ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 15:54 Gerald B. Cox

Re: In the OpenShift Origin/CRI-O/Kubernetes effort we have a dilemma.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:42 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM Daniel Walsh wrote: > >> Users of OpenSHift Origin require CRI-O 1.10 right now. But Kubernetes >> users want to try out the latest packages for kubernetes 1.11 which >> would req

Re: In the OpenShift Origin/CRI-O/Kubernetes effort we have a dilemma.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM Daniel Walsh wrote: > Users of OpenSHift Origin require CRI-O 1.10 right now. But Kubernetes > users want to try out the latest packages for kubernetes 1.11 which > would require CRI-O 1.11. Origin might not be ready to move to > Kubernetes 1.11 for a while. > >

Re: Semi-orphaning pysvn

CCing the maintainers of pyCXX. On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM Jerry James wrote: > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 1:25 PM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > I've been keeping the lights on in this package for years since the > maintainer (ravenoak) vanished from Fedora. However, i

Semi-orphaning pysvn

I've been keeping the lights on in this package for years since the maintainer (ravenoak) vanished from Fedora. However, it doesn't build against Python 3.7 (works fine with 3.6) and I don't have the cycles to dig into it. If someone steps up to fix the FTBFS, I'm willing to hang on as a

Re: streamlining fedora-release (again)

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:19 PM Dennis Gilmore wrote: > El mié, 27-06-2018 a las 11:58 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > escribió: > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to pick up the process of converting fedora-release from a > > split "upstream"/"downstream" model into a single repo in src.fp.o. > > >

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-06-29)

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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-06-25)

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Re: [Modularity] Module streams with two different, non-overlapping, package sets?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:56 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 06/20/2018 04:15 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:06 AM Mikolaj Izdebski > > wrote: > > > >> On 06/20/2018 02:30 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > >>> Parallel install

Re: Services that shouldn't be started in the first place: Was F29... hide.. grub

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:03 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > >> >> >> >>> I believe we're missing something fundamental here. If a >>> program/service etc. requires specific

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:43 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 21 June 2018 at 09:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > >> > >> On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> > On Thu,

Re: Services that shouldn't be started in the first place: Was F29... hide.. grub

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:54 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Adam Williamson < > adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 2018-06-20 at 13:15 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:34 PM Gerald B. Co

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler > wrote: > >> Will the repositories be enabled or disabled by default? > >> > > > > Enabled by default.

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jan Kurik wrote: > > In Fedora 28, the Server Edition debuted new modular functionality, > > allowing end-users access to alternative versions of popular software. > Due > > to technical limitations with package-management software, it was

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:50 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > Correct, this is about ensuring that all Fedora installations have > > > access to the modules we build, but there's no change to how > > > they're stored on mirrors, etc. >

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:49 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:14 PM Jan Kurik wrote: > > > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModulesForEveryone > > > > > > Owner(s): > >

Re: Services that shouldn't be started in the first place: Was F29... hide.. grub

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:34 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > This isn't related to a service, but is throwing out an spurious error > message. There is a patch but it hasn't made it's way > yet into the Fedora kernel: > > rt_cmos registration error: rhbz#1568276 > Basically an error is being thrown

Re: [Modularity] Module streams with two different, non-overlapping, package sets?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:06 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 06/20/2018 02:30 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > > Parallel installation of streams on a single system indeed > > isn't supported at this point and isn't planned anytime in the > > near future. In general it's a more complicated problem

Re: F29 Self Contained Change: Origin 3.10

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:21 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:07 AM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:02 AM Jan Kurik wrote: > >> > >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Origin 3.10 = > &

Re: F29 Self Contained Change: Origin 3.10

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:02 AM Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Origin 3.10 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/origin3.10 > > > Owner(s): > * Jakub Čajka > > > Rebase of the Openshift Origin package to the latest upstream version, > along with introduction of

[Action Required] Node.js 10.x and the Fedora 29 schedule

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[Action Required] Node.js 10.x and the Fedora 29 schedule

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New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

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New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

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Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 10:42 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > > > > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess

Re: Proposal: Abandon v8 package

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:43 AM Tom Callaway wrote: > Background: > > I made the original v8 Fedora package many moons ago, when I was more > optimistic about the possibility of separating the useful components > inside of chromium. Since that point, it has become clear that while v8 > is

Re: Release criteria proposal: drop kickstart package criterion

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:13 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:13 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:26:25AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Adam Williamson > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, folks! > > > > > > > >

Re: dnf and deltarpm (Was: Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180529.n.0 changes)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:41 PM Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 31 May 2018 at 18:40, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 06:24:49PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: >> > > * Fri May 25 2018 Martin Hatina - 2.7.5-13 >> > > - Rebase to dnf from dnf-2-modularity-6 release. >> > It is

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I wonder are there any other single RPM modules? I'm only > used to large multi-package modules like virt. > > Node.js's 8.x stream, for example: https://src.fedoraproject.org/modules/nodejs/blob/8/f/nodejs.yaml

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 1:33 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:49 AM Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 08:53:25AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > Are these packages parallel-installable (and do they need to be?) &

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:49 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 08:53:25AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Are these packages parallel-installable (and do they need to be?) > > In theory, although practically it probably wouldn't be the end of the >

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:07 AM Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 08:53:25AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Are these packages parallel-installable (and do they need to be?) It > seems > > Yes and yes, otherwise one could not synchronise between olde

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:32 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Previously discussed several times, most recently: > > * 2015 > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KQ523Z3S3VUATKU6V2NASAPGBKR5EJWC/ > * 2011 >

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:53 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 31-05-18 12:36, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:24 AM Hans de Goede <mailto:hdego...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > >

Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:24 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm working on improving the Fedora boot experience, with the > end goal being a user pressing the on button and then going > to the graphical login manager without him seeing any > text messages / menus filled with technical

Re: What services / tools still require NIS domain?

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:03 AM David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: > Hello people, > > I would like to know if you know about any service / tool / application > that still relies on NIS domain to be set in Fedora? > > So far, I know only about SSSD/FreeIPA relying on it. Does

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Let's Label Our Variants!

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:29 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:21 PM Jan Kurik wrote: > > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Let's Label Our Variants! = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Label_Our_Variants > > > > Owner(s): >

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-05-11)

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Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-05-11)

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Re: F29 Self Contained Change: MySQL 8

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:04 AM Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: MySQL 8 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MySQL_8 > > > Owner(s): > * Michal Schorm > > > Update of MySQL ( community-mysql package) in Fedora from 5.7 to 8.0 > version. > > > > ==

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 2.5.2018 15:30, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over > /usr/bin? > > > > > > Yes, if a user's account is compromised (or an

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:24 AM Tomas Orsava wrote: > Hi! > I'd like to propose putting the ~/.local/bin in front of the /usr/bin on > the PATH. > > Currently /usr/bin has priority over ~/.local/bin, which causes a [bug] > where the old system-installed executable written in

Re: I would like to propose that we turn on XFS Reflink in Fedora 29 by default

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 11:37 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > On 4/28/18 9:21 AM, Steven Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > On 28/04/18 14:55, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Walsh > wrote: > >>> We are adding some

Re: Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2018-04-03)

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:09 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > >> > * Feedback: Easy "home media server" would be nice

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:07 PM Przemek Klosowski < przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > On 04/04/2018 02:53 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On F28 > > `dnf install php:8/server` (Assuming there's a profile called "server" > > with the packages one woul

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-04-06)

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Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-04-06)

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Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:53 PM James Hogarth <james.hoga...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 19:54 Stephen Gallagher, <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> >> On F28 >> `dnf install php:8/server` (Assuming there's a profile called "server"

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:36 PM Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > On 04/04/2018 01:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > The short version is that Modules *are* distribution packages. They're > > just distribution packages that allow you to pick which maj

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: > > > Am 04.04.2018 um 17:36 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > > Hopefully this will become easier once we get the PHP maintainers to > > move over to building Fedora Modules. Then we can decoup

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:05 PM James Hogarth <james.hoga...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:37 Stephen Gallagher, <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth <james.hoga...@gmail.com> >> wrote:

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: > >> >> >> Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James Hogarth: >> > Last bit to debug before I can start testing an update of OC and NC is >> >

Re: [Help Needed] Fedora Server's Mission and Goals

thoughts, I'd really like to hear them. On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:04 AM Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > Quick reminder to please send me your thoughts on this; I'll be collating > them tonight and sending them out for us to discuss tomorrow. > > > On Tue, Ma

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek wrote: > I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped > in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, > it is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM Christian Glombek wrote: > Hello! > > I'd be happy to maintain NextCloud! > I have already done the packaging work for NC v13 and v13.0.1, and various > dependencies. > Unfortunately there is no upgrade path from the EOL'd v10 rpm that is

Re: Node.js 6.14.1, 8.11.1 and 9.10.1 will *not* be built for Fedora or EPEL

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:41 AM Robert Van Voorhees wrote: > While on the topic of Node.js versions, do we plan on moving Fedora 28 to > Node 10, since their release dates coincide, or will Node 10 be pushed > until Fedora 29? > > For those not aware, Node 10 is the next LTS,

Node.js 6.14.1, 8.11.1 and 9.10.1 will *not* be built for Fedora or EPEL

Just a general notice to anyone using Node.js in Fedora. We're not going to be rebuilding for the releases in the Subject because there's no need. The X.Y.1 releases were created because of a compilation mistake made by the upstream binary release process and contain no additional commits. Since

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28: Noto CJK Fonts

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:12 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and > we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts! > > CJK fonts are by far the largest of all fonts due to the

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kof...@chello.at> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live >>

Re: Unacceptable size increase to ALL live images in F28 (caused by Annobin?)

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live > image: > F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes > F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes > F28 KDE Beta: 2069889024 <(206)%20988-9024> bytes > > It

Re: Node.js: Would anyone be interested in a Node.js/JavaScript SIG?

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:06 AM Tom Hughes wrote: > On 09/03/18 11:56, Elliott Pardee wrote: > > The goal I have in mind for such a SIG would be to: > > > > * Maintain the Node.js packages (npm/nodejs) > > * Promote Node.js usage in Fedora! > > * Establish a community of

Re: systemd 238 and sysusers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:50 AM Simo Sorce <s...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Wed, 2018-03-07 at 14:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 02:00:03PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > On 03/07/2018 01:55 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >

Re: systemd 238 and sysusers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:56 AM Tom Hughes wrote: > On 07/03/18 10:46, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 10:28:58AM +, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/03/18 10:10, Florian Weimer wrote: > >>> On 03/06/2018 03:24 PM, Zbigniew JÄ™drzejewski-Szmek

Re: Frequently broken Rawhide/Branched composes

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:54 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 03:33:44PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 07:35:00PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > >> So please let us just repeal that "Rawhide

Re: Fedora 28 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline & Beta Freeze

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jan Kurik wrote: > > " Beta and Final freezes are in effect from 00:00 UTC of the freeze day." > > I always find this very misleading. IMHO, the freeze date announced should > be the day before (i.e., this needs no

Re: systemd 238 and sysusers

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:24 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 01:03:30PM +0100, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 23:11:12 + > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > - somewhat independently,

Re: systemd 238 and sysusers

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 6:28 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 05:16:36PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > > > > ZJ> - various transfiletriggers have been ported from

libmodulemd: SOname bump coming to released Fedora

I'm going to be submitting an update for libmodulemd today for all released branches of Fedora. This is *technically* in conflict with the Stable Updates Policy, but it is both necessary and should be safe to accomplish. 1) The teams that were planning to switch to it from the previous

libmodulemd: SOname bump coming to released Fedora

I'm going to be submitting an update for libmodulemd today for all released branches of Fedora. This is *technically* in conflict with the Stable Updates Policy, but it is both necessary and should be safe to accomplish. 1) The teams that were planning to switch to it from the previous

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-02-02)

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Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-02-02)

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Re: Python3 will be in next major RHEL release, please adjust %if statements accordingly

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 01/17/2018 12:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 01:02:32PM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote: > >> Hello, > >> Python3 will be in the next major RHEL release. I don't mean RHEL > >> 7.6, but with

Re: Exploring the idea of CentOS/RHEL branches in dist-git [was Re: Python3 will be in next major RHEL release, please adjust %if statements accordingly]

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:20 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Neal Gompa > > It's interesting that you bring this up, because SUSE elected to do > > this for the SLE 15 development[1]. All the sources are public, and > > while only a few things

Re: Get stubby into Fedora to provide safe DNS resolution via DNS-over-TLS

> > > > Maybe you could suggest the package maintainer to add a "Provides: > stubby" so > > it can be found directly. CCing Paul Wouters in that regard. > > That's a good idea! I'll fire of some new builds with that later today > when I fixup > the libidn2 handling as well. > > If people are

Re: F28 System Wide Change: GCC8

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:58 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 18:45 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:39:41AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The timing on this looks a bit awkward when compared with the current > > >

Modularity is Dead, Long Live Modularity!

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Re: MASS CHANGE announcement: python2- prefix renaming, part 2

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > Dear fellow Fedora developers, > > I plan to execute part 2 of the renaming. First part was announced and > discussed here [1]. Recently, Iryna Shcherbina announced [2] plans for > a follow up: changing the

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:42 PM Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 06:36:56PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > OK, the impact on the Workstation netinstall will have to be > > > > considered. Changing the

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Reduce Initial Setup Redundancy

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:09 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 11:06:06AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > OK, the impact on the Workstation netinstall will have to be > > considered. Changing the netinstall would make this harder, as it > > means we

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of obsolete /bin/* Provides from coreutils

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:05 AM Karel Zak wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:49:34PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > After removal[0] of other ancient Provides from coreutils, it is time[1] > to > > remove next legacy part, /bin/* Provides. > > Do you plan do the same cleanup

Re: streamlining fedora-release

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > >> wrote: > >>>

Re: streamlining fedora-release

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:23:37PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > But why? _Any_ package can completely

Re: streamlining fedora-release

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > I propose simplifying this and opening fedora-release releases to more > > contributors: > > > > 1. Let's drop "upstream" at

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