As I hope most of you have heard by now the Fedora Board and many
community members have been discussing changes to the Fedora
governance model at its highest level. I think it is fair for me to
say the primary motivation in doing this is to create a system of
governance that includes a much more
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
Lately, I've been thinking a lot about Fedora's Foundations: “Freedom,
Friends, Features, First, particularly in relation to some very
sticky questions about where certain things fit (such as third-party
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
On 04/21/2014 11:56 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 08:36:55AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
...I'd like to suggest a fifth Foundation, one to ultimately
supersede all the rest: Functional.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
To boil it down:
Is the Freedom Foundation too strict? (Alternately, are we reading it
too strictly?) In other words, is our hard-line on only displaying
FOSS solutions ultimately accomplishing our Mission to
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
So let's not start by putting too much sacred value on the term
Spin. Rather, let's think about what specific technical and
community-building problems are caused by using Remixes, how to solve
them, and then consider
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM, H. Guémar hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
I think we should keep spins as long as we don't have a formal process to
accept new products.
Something like = proposal = crop (aka product-to-be) = validation =
product
When we'll have that, drop the whole
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM, H. Guémar hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi,
I think we should keep spins as long as we don't have a formal process
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:01 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
So I am being pulled in both directions on this. One of the goals of
agility is to facilitate more things being made from Fedora (at least
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jon jdisn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com
wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make sure
that this gets read by the
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 January 2014 15:49, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jon jdisn...@gmail.com wrote:
Putting on my rel-eng hat I can say that any spin that fails to
compose will be dropped.
I
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Nobrakal nobra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry for the double-post, but I think it's necessary.
Recently, some Working Groups has been created [1]. In the most of
case (except in the Server WG with Truong Anh. Tuan), we don't have
any representant of the
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 19:56 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
It is up to each WG to determine their product requirements. That
includes which architectures and target users they are trying to
produce a product for.
We've
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com wrote:
A fresh idea came up in #fedora-apps:
What if we nix fedmsg for voting all together, but we supply a link in
each election page: Claim the badge for voting that you can click to,
well, get the badge.
This way no tracking
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 09:23:44PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Sep 11, 2013 6:02 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
What if we made this like the I voted stickers -- you can get one by
checking a box in
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Eric H. Christensen
spa...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 03:50:58PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
No. In what election where the votes cast are secret is the fact of
voting public? I can't recall ever participating in such an election
but maybe my
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com wrote:
A question has come up in #fedora-apps as to whether or not we should
publish fedmsg messages for voting. In particular, we're looking
now at the new nuancier webapp[0] that will be used to vote on
supplemental wallpapers.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 03:24:28PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
What is under question is that it publishes a message for each set of
votes cast by users[3]. It includes the number of votes cast, the fas
username
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
I never considered this until today. In the US elections I attend,
they have my name on a list at the voting precinct. When I come in to
vote I sign my name and they mark that I've come in. Until today I'd
never
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 03:50:58PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
No. In what election where the votes cast are secret is the fact of
voting public? I can't recall ever participating in such an election
but maybe my head
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:53:59PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
But anyway, if people feel really strongly about this, I think the opt out
of badge tracking is an okay approach. (Even if it makes more checkboxes.)
I find
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 05:06:58PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
FWIW, if you log in to https://badges.fedoraproject.org/ and visit
your profile,
I got Internal Server Error when I tried this... and now I'm on the
home page,
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:21:30PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
For example, in most elections in the United States. I'm sure the
particulars vary by state, but it is the general case. For example, here's
Iowa: http
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 05:13:03PM -0500, inode0 wrote:
How shallow are Fedora contributors if a badge is what it takes to tip
them over from being non-voters to being voters? If doing this
increases our turnout
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
That begs the question: what if the elected word has received a very low
score compared to the maximum possible?
Doesn't matter.
That would mean that it received a very small support from our community,
and in
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 August 2013 10:55, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
If None was an option, which I think is a terrible idea, the only
thing you could conclude from it winning is the we preferred to not
have a release name
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 August 2013 12:35, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
If you don't want to deal with names, just don't get in the emails or
vote..
because it isn't worth getting worked up over.
No point saying that because
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think it's been hatred (or passionate fighting, or else he would
have tried to reach a decision at the FPB level), but indeed, he has been
one of those who think the release name process is a waste of time and
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:04 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Brendan Jones
brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/25/2013 12:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 16:50 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 07/24/2013 12:15 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:50:11AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
snip
Obvious we cannot have
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
My understanding is that Fedora is registered as a non-profit
organization in the United States which I believe allows for anyone to
donate to it *today* if they so chose. The fact that the only
donations we see are
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 09:05:40AM -0500, inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
We would need
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/24/2013 02:13 PM, inode0 wrote:
Fedora is not any sort of legally recognized entity as far as I know.
And the fact that the vast majority of contributions are time rather
than money is because in order
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
I as a donor donating $20 would like those to run to
$20? It's going to be a long road!
25,000 to 50,000 of those could get us
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/24/2013 04:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:55:41PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 07/24/2013 03:47 PM, inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
The entire budget is not public so you won't get a definitive answer
for a large portion
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 22:48 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 05:01 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
The appropriate place to discuss deliberate design decisions is a
forum where said decisions are
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Markus Mayer lotharl...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
I have started developing for embedded devices (aka microcontrollers) lately
(mainly ARM cortex-M3 devices). Although fedora provides some of the needed
tools, there are still some bits missing to provide a good
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/07/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I don't know for sure, but I'm not aware of any, sadly. A lot of the
discussion happened in a big free-for-all that ensued from the flaming
wreckage of spot's talk on a
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:06 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
You don't see the point of MATE or Cinnamon? How long did you play with
them 5 minutes?
Do you remember the GNOME 1.x = 2.x transition? Similarly to how there
are forks of
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with
something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a
fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten
into a
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk wrote:
There is really no reason why the election messages couldn't go to all
of FAS, and just have a note explaining that you need cla_done to vote.
There is equally no reason, aside from it being more admin work, why you
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
inode0 wrote:
People working on the elections certainly try to make the community
aware of the elections. Unfortunately we never seem to be able to get
everyone's attention.
One issue is that the voting period
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote:
I just saw the Fedora election results, and was surprised to learn there
had been an election. After some digging I figured out what happened.
Robyn sends her announce emails to: announce@, devel-announce@,
test-announce@
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:59:03 -0600, inode0 wrote:
Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html
417 messages in December so far! Too
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:33:33 -0600, inode0 wrote:
Looks like it was sent to the devel list as well.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/174779.html
417 messages in December so far
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
This IS a rant. And this includes a few analogies. Some good, some bad.
This is one of the reasons why I chose to run for board.
Nobody really knows where Fedora is going. It's like a too many chefs problem.
We might not
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 09:43:41AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Anyway, I'd like to hear what FESCo members have to say about this,
because it would strongly influence who I would vote for.
Yeah, I too came up
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Henrique Junior henrique...@gmail.com wrote:
Fedora multi-arch [1] is a
good idea that is not receiving the emphasis it should. In fact, most
people do not even know it exists and I
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
inode0 wrote:
The quota for these would need to be much higher already as the
Multi-Desktop is now 6.1GB
The Multi Desktop Live DVD is dual-layer, it's not expected to fit 4.7 GB.
But dual-layer DVDs also have
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Andre Robatino wrote:
Would it be possible for QA to get access to the Multi Desktops before
release and test those directly against a media-determined hard limit?
That makes sense, though the problem then is which
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 21:30 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
El Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:18:17 -0400
Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com escribió:
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
The only Freedom you've lost
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:18:17PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
Hmm, will the package maintainers have the freedom to not support
users who have the secureboot enabled? How are we going to detect
this?
Any piece of
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
On 4/3/12 9:44 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Anyway, we can easily arrange things so that the installer does not get
autostarted anymore once you tick the 'No thanks, just playing'
checkbox.
Instead of
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Scott Doty sc...@ponzo.net wrote:
On 02/10/2012 10:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 10:39 -0800, Scott Doty wrote:
On 02/10/2012 10:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
You're not supposed to be running Fedora on production servers. That is
not
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote:
I'd like to remove:
ddate - converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates
command from rawhide (F17). IMHO this crazy command is used by very
very small minority of Fedora users.
Comments?
That would make me very sad.
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:41:36 -0600
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
I welcome posts back on the technical topic of trusted boot. ;)
Right.
So can we have specifics about what it's good for? Not how it is
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 22:46 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Right. I'm not saying Jarod should issue Fedora Arrest Warrants (FAWs?)
I like this. We also need black helicopters.
Those are in the hangars at the secret desert
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:09 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
That's a good point, but I would hope that someone elected to serve on a
body in Fedora would actually *want* to vote, and the measures above are
just ideas meant
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com wrote:
1) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in
http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one?
NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an
applied search engine for the
On Saturday, August 14, 2010, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
I'm still looking for an android email client that allows me to place
the reply below the quoted text. I guess an alternative is to delete
the entire quoted text...
While not very convenient the web browser let's you do
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 20:51 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, inode0 wrote:
Sadly they don't have categories like the best linux distribution for
developers there.
Is that what we're doing? If so would
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
Adam Miller said the following on 02/03/2010 08:02 AM Pacific Time:
I'm not on some crusade to undermine the Board if that's what you
think, I'm honestly looking for clarification but not only from those
involved in the
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:54 -0600, inode0 wrote:
I believe that what fundamentally makes the Fedora Project a great
place to be is that it is an open community where the participants
share a group of core values
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote:
I really don't know what our users are a measure of. I don't think it's
marketing as inode0 suggests, because the people using Fedora already know
about it. But if we step back
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, inode0 wrote:
Sadly they don't have categories like the best linux distribution for
developers there.
Is that what we're doing? If so would we win it?
One thing I know that I am not doing
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
And to answer your question about what isnt' broken. I suggest you look
at our http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics page. We've only seen
growth in 2 of our last 6 releases. Think about that.
While I don't see that
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Robyn Bergeron
robyn.berge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
And to answer your question about what isnt' broken. I suggest you look
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
Unless you were misquoted the question you asked was:
Isn't it amazing how thousands of contributors doing whatever they want
created such a spectacular OS? [1]
That was a rhetorical answer to the question, Does
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