Re: F35 Change: Drop the the "Allow SSH root login with password" option from the installer GUI (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-05-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 5/14/21 2:50 PM, Martin Kolman wrote: On Thu, 2021-05-13 at 20:09 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: We discussed that in the Fedora Server Edition Working Group and opted to leave it as is for the Server installation iso. A lot of servers are running in a protected environment. And there are situatio

Re: Intention to dropping the the "Allow SSH root login with password" option from the installer GUI

2021-05-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 4/30/21 3:21 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:09:12PM +0200, Martin Kolman wrote: Now fast forward to today, it's 2021, any use cases that needed password based root login via SSH had 2 more years to migrate while the amount of password guessing attacks certainly didn'

Re: What do we think about always autoreconfing? (was: Re: Fedora 35 Change: Autoconf-2.71 (Self-Contained Change proposal))

2021-04-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 4/13/21 12:26 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Hijacking this thread originally about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Autoconf_271 What is the current thinking in Fedora about always running "autoreconf -i" during builds that use autotools? IMO, it's naive wishful thinking, applicable t

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/9/20 12:33 PM, Jaroslav Prokop wrote: Hello, On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote: Hello! On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote: How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) affect Fedora? I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS. At least I was plan

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/20/20 5:26 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: The pulseaudio package will be uninstalled and pipewire-pulse will be installed. > pipewire-pulse does not yet implement all the features of pulseaudio but it is expected that comparable functionality will be implemented later. Most notable features that

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-10-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/19/20 6:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: The issue is that while 'moore's' law was no longer doubling every 18months it was still working and tasks had to be rewritten to work with more cores/threads/etc. As that happened the software's need for more CPU power has increased to the point w

Re: s390x/fedora33 build job hangs

2020-08-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 8/13/20 3:17 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 3:15 PM Ralf Corsepius wrote: Hi, A f33 build job, I launched a couple of hours ago, seems to hang on s390 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=49204466 What am I supposed to do? Ralf Wait. It'

s390x/fedora33 build job hangs

2020-08-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, A f33 build job, I launched a couple of hours ago, seems to hang on s390 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=49204466 What am I supposed to do? Ralf ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 7/1/20 6:10 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:19:01PM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: I'm currently using BIOS, grub, grub2 basically everywhere, even on fresh new machines, This won't be the case for much longer; Intel will finally drop CSM ("BIOS") support this year. Even

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 6/30/20 3:34 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which has been available on any common in

Re: [Test-Announce] New Release Freeze Times

2020-02-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 2/20/20 8:04 PM, Mohan Boddu wrote: Hi all, It has been brought to our attention that release freezes starting at 00:00 UTC has been confusing for a lot of people. So, we decided to change it to 14:00 UTC. This longs for an explanation. I fail to understand why 14:00 UTC should be less con

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/17/19 5:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 10:43 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:31 AM Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 16:52 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: I've offered to take on responsibility for these tests in this thread, and I'm

Re: List of Python 2 packages to be removed mid-November (= in a week)

2019-11-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/7/19 2:34 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 07. 11. 19 13:59, Felix Schwarz wrote: Am 07.11.19 um 13:01 schrieb Petr Viktorin: If this took you by surprise, don't panic. It's possible to change the default. Let us know and we'll work things out. Somehow I feel like I don't understand the repo

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/5/19 9:41 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: IMO, without a resolution in Fedora we'll never get one in RHEL. And? Why should Fedora care about RHEL? I for one consider RHEL not to be its partner, but it to be an initiative to gradually push Fedora out of this planet. Ralf __

Re: FreeCAD required updates (PySide2 & Coin4)

2019-10-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/8/19 8:03 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:34:28PM -0400, Scott Talbert wrote: On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Richard Shaw wrote: I am in the midst of updating the freecad package in two major ways: Qt4 -> Qt5 (via PySide -> PySide2, which also facilitates moving fr

Re: FreeCAD required updates (PySide2 & Coin4)

2019-10-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/7/19 10:23 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I am in the midst of updating the freecad package in two major ways: Qt4 -> Qt5 (via PySide -> PySide2, which also facilitates moving from Python 2 to 3) and Coin3 -> Coin4 (Which requires several other packages move to Coin4) I have been working with th

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Release Announcement

2019-09-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 9/18/19 12:11 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 9/18/19 10:29, Petr Pisar wrote: On 2019-09-18, Ralf Corsepius wrote:     - package perl-libs-4:5.28.2-439.module_f31+6019+b24e098f.x86_64 is excluded Funnily DNF finds out that you could actually get that package satisfied if you enabled a

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Release Announcement

2019-09-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 9/17/19 4:04 PM, Mohan Boddu wrote: Since this is a Beta release, we expect that you may encounter bugs or missing features. To report issues encountered during testing, contact the Fedora QA team via the mailing list or in #fedora-qa on Freenode. Some not so pleasant results: # dnf system

Re: mock -r fedora-31-i386 broken

2019-09-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 9/13/19 1:34 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Just FTR, this was brought up already: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/2V2RRTT7DTHWANFHL6YBVM7RILCWDGGT/ Understood - Give me a ping when Fedora has a usable infrastructure again. I'll suspend all Fedor

mock -r fedora-31-i386 broken

2019-09-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Apparently mock-build roots for fedora-31-i386 currently are broken: # mock -r fedora-31-i386 --init INFO: mock.py version 1.4.16 starting (python version = 3.7.4)... Start: init plugins INFO: selinux disabled Finish: init plugins Start: run Start: clean chroot Finish: clean chroot Start: ch

Re: fedora-gpg-keys not updated yet again

2019-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 8/19/19 10:50 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: This seems to repeat every 6 months: rawhide mock is broken on stable Fedora, people are scrambling to install the right gpg keys, dnf reports unsigned packages. The same applies to f31. The f31 repos are not in place, the mock-configs fo

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 7/22/19 8:51 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/x86-64_micro-architecture_update After preliminary discussions with CPU vendors, we propose AVX2 as the new baseline. AVX2 support was introduced into CPUs from 2013 to 2015. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advan

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: No More i686 Kernels

2019-06-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 6/21/19 7:26 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels == Summary == Stop building i686 kernels, reduce the i686 package to a kernel-headers package that can be used to build 32bit versions of everything else. How does this affect the i386 as se

Re: Stale packages in Fedora 30

2019-06-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 6/3/19 7:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Some people don't see any problem with this, personally it drives me crazy and I wish it were policy that *every* retired package must be obsoleted. But it isn't. I am quite shocked to hear this from you. I wouldn't have expected this attitude from you.

Re: How to install a mountpoint directory from an rpm?

2019-05-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 5/1/19 2:24 AM, Ian Kent wrote: On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 17:29 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 01:12:43PM -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: On 4/30/19 11:45 AM, David Howells wrote: Hi, I need to install a directory (/afs) that will be a mountpoint that a systemd

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-04-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. And who is guilty for this? I thin

Re: More than 10% of all Fedora spec files are not POSIX sh compliant

2019-03-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 3/26/19 5:44 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: $ rpm --showrc | egrep -e "popd|pushd" This scriptlet of yours isn't posix compliant, either. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: modular repositories in mock configs: please don't

2019-03-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 3/5/19 9:08 AM, Adam Samalik wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:26 PM Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 3/4/19 3:04 AM, Petr Šabata wrote: You can view them as virtual repositories with dependencies. I think that might be the simplest way to put it. You can try playing with fedmod to generate

tracebacks while "git push"ing to Fedora's git

2019-03-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, when "git push"ing updates to Fedora's git, I am currently encountering this kind of tracebacks: $ git push Total 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) remote: Emitting a message to the fedmsg bus. remote: * Publishing information for 1 commits remote: Traceback (most recent call last): remote:

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F29 to F30

2019-02-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 2/28/19 6:55 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 2/28/19 18:05, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 28. 02. 19 16:55, Adam Williamson wrote: More generally, the *flood* of Python 2 dep issues here is something I was definitely concerned about with the Python 2 retirement policy explicitly deciding not to say anyt

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 2/12/19 8:22 AM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:19 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: I'm curious: What happens to modules when a package's master branch gets retired? Nothing. Modules will continue to exist and will continue to be delivered to users. Actually, I consider ant

Can't set initial passwd

2018-11-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I am facing a weird problem with creating a new user account: Create a new user: # adduser -m tester Trying to change his passwd: # passwd tester Changing password for user tester. At this point, passwd hangs and doesn't do anything. I am not getting the "usual" passwd-prompt. What's goin

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/28/18 4:37 PM, Robert Marcano wrote: On 11/28/18 11:20 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: # ls -l /etc/nsswitch.conf lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 29 Nov 18 04:58 /etc/nsswitch.conf -> /etc/authselect/nsswitch.conf My clean F29 installation had no such symbolic link, has to "authselect

Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?

2018-11-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/28/18 3:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Richard W. M. Jones: Trying to track down a bug in IPP printing (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1653276). We're down a rabbit hole where it seems that in Fedora 29 /etc/nssswitch.conf ought to be a symlink. This machine has been upgrad

Re: Proposal: Move to an annual platform release starting at F30

2018-11-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/27/18 9:16 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Because if we keep "no breaking updates in stable" policy, then Fedora won't be "first anymore". Users perceive your "first" as unstable and unreliable. There are plenty of examples of how e.g. FC30 was broken and still is. One such example is you pe

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/14/18 4:08 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 06:12:11 +0100, you wrote: We, as a distro, just take a different approach. To be bleeding edge requires to have releases often. Such a bleeding edge distro that it took 4 years for Swift to arrive, or still trying to get rid of

Re: Buildroot broken in Rawhide

2018-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/23/2018 08:01 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: I got several FTBFS bug reports, the logs of which look like this: + make 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong -grecord-gcc-switches -specs=/usr/lib/rp

Re: Auto-filing of FTBFS bugs gone wild

2018-07-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/20/2018 03:58 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 15:27 Kevin Kofler wrote: Igor Gnatenko wrote: No one promised that I'm going to fix 100% of packages, I've fixed around 2k packages. What my regex couldn't catch -- please send me list of packages, I will analyze them and try

Re: Auto-filing of FTBFS bugs gone wild

2018-07-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/21/2018 11:02 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:28 AM Julian Sikorski wrote: This means that build failed on checking for gcc. There are some packages where it checks for both gcc and g++ and then fails, but there are packages where it fails after first. Unfortunatel

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

2018-06-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/14/2018 03:02 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is really low, even for us:( Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and the turnout is around 100. Disa

Re: F29 System Wide Change: i686 Is For x86-64

2018-06-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/04/2018 11:28 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 06/04/2018 10:50 AM, Guido Aulisi wrote: It should, because -march=x86-64 implies just SSE2 and FXSR, and Xeon MP supports both.  But the intent is what the subject says: i686 binaries are for running legacy software on x86-64 systems, and noth

Re: What services / tools still require NIS domain?

2018-05-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/16/2018 05:02 PM, David Kaspar [Dee'Kej] wrote: Hello people, I would like to know if you know about any service / tool / application that still relies on NIS domain to be set in Fedora? So far, I know only about SSSD/FreeIPA relying on it. Does anybody know anything else? All replies

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-03-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/23/2018 12:23 PM, Petr Viktorin wrote: tl;dr: Unless someone steps up to maintain Python 2 after 2020, we need to start dropping python2 packages now. Bummer - I am speechless. Python 2.7 will reach end of upstream support on 1st of January, 2020, after almost 10 years (!) of volunteer m

Re: josm orphaned

2018-03-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/22/2018 11:32 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: On 2018-03-22, 06:51 GMT, Till Maas wrote: I orphaned josm (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/josm), the java openstreetmap editor on request by the original maintainer. Please adopt it. It needs to be updated regularly to follow the current openstreetm

Re: Broken dependencies: FreeSOLID

2018-03-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/03/2018 12:19 PM, Christian Dersch wrote: Hi, try qhull-devel instead of pkgconfig(qhull), afaik there was a change in qhull package some days ago. No. The change you are referring to happened in April 2016! Ralf (Fedora qhull packager) ___ de

Re: Unannounced soname bump (Rawhide): qpdf (libqpdf.so.18 -> libqpdf.so.21)

2018-03-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/28/2018 05:43 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 12:14 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/27/2018 07:27 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Adam Williamson mailto:adamw...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Once again, folks, *please* announc

Re: Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/28/2018 11:28 AM, Rafal Luzynski wrote: 28.02.2018 09:33 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mercredi 28 février 2018 à 00:11 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil a écrit : Shouldn't we consider having -devel packages Require gcc or gcc-c++? What good is a header package without a compiler anyway? This would al

Re: Unannounced soname bump (Rawhide): qpdf (libqpdf.so.18 -> libqpdf.so.21)

2018-02-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/28/2018 12:21 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 28.2.2018 v 12:14 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): On 02/27/2018 07:27 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Adam Williamson mailto:adamw...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:     Once again, folks, *please* announce your soname

Re: Unannounced soname bump (Rawhide): qpdf (libqpdf.so.18 -> libqpdf.so.21)

2018-02-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/28/2018 02:41 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Kevin Kofler > wrote: Richard Shaw wrote: > Is it time to update the packaging guidelines to enforce setting a > "%global sover " and using it in %files? > > If nothing

Re: Unannounced soname bump (Rawhide): qpdf (libqpdf.so.18 -> libqpdf.so.21)

2018-02-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/27/2018 07:27 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Adam Williamson mailto:adamw...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Once again, folks, *please* announce your soname bumps, and co-ordinate rebuilds. (In fact it looks like Zdenek is the maintainer of both package

Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/19/2018 11:27 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2018-02-19 at 09:02 +, Tom Hughes wrote: On 19/02/18 08:30, Igor Gnatenko wrote: On Mon, 2018-02-19 at 09:12 +0100, Guido Aulisi wrote: amsynth has been fixed in all supported branches.

Re: to batch or not to batch?

2018-02-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/17/2018 11:15 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Bodhi currently provides "batched updates" [1] which lump updates of packages that are not marked urgent into a single batch, released once per week. This means that after an update has graduated from testing, it may be delayed up to a we

Re: Removal of BuildRoot

2018-02-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
IMO, bikesheding and stylishness with any actual usefulness. If you really want to enforce this, make it a feature request for f30 and have FESCO vote on it. Ralf ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: RANT: Packaging is changing too fast and is not well documented

2018-02-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/11/2018 08:40 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Richard Shaw wrote: $ fedpkg request-branch Could not execute request_branch: The "token" value must be set under the "fedpkg.pagure" section in your "fedpkg" user configuration WTF?! So, instead of going to a web interface and making the change (ol

Re: [HEADS UP] Mass-macro-escape in %changelog

2018-02-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/09/2018 09:18 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I've went and fixed 493 packages (listed below). If it broke something, please let me know. I checked diff briefly and don't think that I broke anything… Did you ask FESCO? If not you, have abused your

Re: binutils 2.30

2018-02-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/06/2018 09:05 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 02/06/2018 09:02 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 08:49:53AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: On 02/06/2018 08:38 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: binutils 2.30 has been out for about a week.  Will we get it in Rawhide soon?  It ha

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/30/2018 11:16 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:11:02AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/30/2018 10:00 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/30/2018 09:54 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: annobin.spec now uses:    %undefine _annotated_build so at least the circular dependency

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/30/2018 10:00 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/30/2018 09:54 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: annobin.spec now uses:    %undefine _annotated_build so at least the circular dependency is no longer there.  You still have to remember to rebuild it when a new version of GCC comes out however

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/29/2018 04:45 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:55:53PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/29/2018 03:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin (no user-visible improvements, only yet another global distrowide size increase) really

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/26/2018 08:13 AM, Philip Kovacs wrote: I'm getting: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables This is exactly what I get. Having a look into the corresponing config.log gives the error related annobin, I was referring to. Ralf ___

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/26/2018 08:05 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 01/25/2018 10:50 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Digging into details led me to this error: ... cc1: error: fail to initialize plugin /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/7/plugin/annobin.so annobin: conftest.c: Error: plugin built for compiler version

GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, ATM all rawhide builds are failing for me, because autoconf's tests for CC are failing. Digging into details led me to this error: ... cc1: error: fail to initialize plugin /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/7/plugin/annobin.so annobin: conftest.c: Error: plugin built for compiler version (

Re: Firefox "Looking Glass" fiasco

2017-12-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/18/2017 09:42 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: Mozilla has already admitted they made a mistake and removed Looking Glass from the Fx Studies.  I believe they understand the situation quite well.  It's not helpful to beat a dead horse. Do you think it's a dead horse? I don't. Actually, I thin

Re: Which Fedora/EPEL is targeted by packaging guidelines?

2017-12-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/02/2017 02:35 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Vít Ondruch wrote: This is big and old-school hammer. If you did "git cherry-pick" instead, you could get most of the changes you did in master without the branches. Also, merging means that you get into older (or EPEL) branches stuff like changelogs f

Re: Package naming question

2017-12-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/04/2017 10:33 AM, Giovanni wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:20:13AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote: * rust-parallel * parallel-rust * parallel-rs I vote parallel-rust. It's very clear where it comes from. This choice is probably an interesting one: it would mark some sort of best practice

Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?

2017-10-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/13/2017 07:11 PM, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Which all means our release planning is too focused on Gnome and not enough thought is put into the roadmap of major non-Gnome desktop apps such as Firefox or Libreoffice. I'd argue that this kind of Firefox change is way more impacti

Re: How to chainbuild in a build override?

2017-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2017 01:07 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On 2017-09-22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: How to build a sub tree of packages in fc27, when the root of this tree changed SONAME? In rawhide, if you want a longer time isolation, you ask relengs for a sige tag, you do all builds there without affecting

Re: How to chainbuild in a build override?

2017-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/22/2017 09:32 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 22/09/17 08:03, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I am trying to build a chain of packages in a build override? I.e. a series of packages: A->B->C I set up a build override for A, and B built successfully. Now, I would have expect building C to pickup

How to chainbuild in a build override?

2017-09-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I am trying to build a chain of packages in a build override? I.e. a series of packages: A->B->C I set up a build override for A, and B built successfully. Now, I would have expect building C to pickup B from the A-override. This does not seem to apply. C fails to build, apparently becau

SONAME bump: Update OpenSceneGraph to 3.4.1

2017-09-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I am going to update OpenSceneGraph from 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 on rawhide (for now). This will be accompanied with SONAME bumps of various shared libs supplied by OpenSceneGraph and thus will require rebuilds of several packages depending on these libs. I intend to take care of these and to re

Re: rawhide packages not getting pushed?

2017-09-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/20/2017 10:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: I just ran: koji untag-pkg f28-pending k3d-0.8.0.6-9.fc28; koji tag-pkg f28-pending k3d-0.8.0.6-9.fc28 >> and you'll see now it's tagged into f28 Thanks, this seems to have done it. Though *-9.fc28 doesn't seem to have landed in rawhide, I see i

rawhide packages not getting pushed?

2017-09-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, For ca. 3 weeks (or more) buildsys nags me with warning mails on k3d: ... k3d has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: k3d-0.8.0.6-8.fc28.x86_64 requires libMagick++-7.Q16HDRI.so.3()(64bit) ... Due to these, I bumped k3d's NEVR to k3d-0.8.0.6-9 and built it for rawhide on

Re: Urgent attention required; ImageMagick update breakage

2017-09-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/02/2017 12:14 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 09/01/2017 01:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: FESCo decided at today's meeting that 7 should not go to F27 (unless it can be made parallel installable and not used by anything release- blocking by default), and to go into F28 there must be a sy

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-08-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/28/2017 04:35 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1482798 (Bug 1482798 - Illegal instruction in SHA1_Update() when used by chronyd) That's definitely a bug for F27. nss-softok is broken in similar ways on fedora-26-i686 Ralf ___

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-08-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2017 03:44 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:44:02AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 01:20:58PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: The fact that i686 kernels continue to work in general is basically luck. You probably will deny this, but

Re: Golang packages snapshot versionning

2017-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/19/2017 01:36 PM, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: Hello, When packaging Golang librairies we often use development snapshots instead of releases. In such case there is two conflicting guidelines regarding versionning: - the "main" Guidelines that says the version should be MMDD Cf:

Re: Fedora Elections to FESCo & FAmSCo - Voting period is in progress

2017-08-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/18/2017 08:23 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Benson Muite wrote: Is it possible for the people who are running and have not answered interview questions for the blog or have an informative profile to do so? Voting is not limited to relevant group, so some informatio

Re: Council Elections - July/August 2017 - Result announcement

2017-08-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/16/2017 05:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 16 August 2017 at 03:38, Till Maas > wrote: Am 15. August 2017 15:47:49 MESZ schrieb Jan Kurik mailto:jku...@redhat.com>>: >I am personally not convinced this will help as the set of questions

Re: Broken dependencies messages

2017-08-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/06/2017 05:38 PM, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am 06.08.2017 um 17:28 schrieb mcatanz...@gnome.org: Hi, Since yesterday I'm getting a huge number of messages about broken dependencies in packages that I don't care about. Anybody else experiencing this? Seems I'm being aliased to, at

Re: fedpkg new-sources broken?

2017-07-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/21/2017 11:09 AM, Patrick マルタインアンドレアス Uiterwijk wrote: Hi, I seem to be unable to upload a new tarball for freefem++: $ fedpkg new-sources freefem++-3.56.tar.gz /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedora/client/bodhi.py:48: DeprecationWarning: fedora.client.bodhi has been deprecated. Plea

fedpkg new-sources broken?

2017-07-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I seem to be unable to upload a new tarball for freefem++: $ fedpkg new-sources freefem++-3.56.tar.gz /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/fedora/client/bodhi.py:48: DeprecationWarning: fedora.client.bodhi has been deprecated. Please use bodhi.client.bindings instead. DeprecationWarning) U

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/11/2017 11:03 PM, Justin Forbes wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels If this is accepted, all

Re: rawhide, dnf can not load RPM file *.fc26.x86_64.rpm

2017-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2017 06:30 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 07/12/2017 09:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: -rw-rw-r--. 1 chris chris unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 53190 Jul 12 19:26 kernel-4.11.1

Re: rawhide, dnf can not load RPM file *.fc26.x86_64.rpm

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2017 06:14 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: -rw-rw-r--. 1 chris chris unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 53190 Jul 12 19:26 kernel-4.11.10-300.fc26.x86_64.rpm kernel-4.11.10-300.fc26.x86_64.rpm: data I downloaded the same

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2017 01:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.07.2017 um 13:24 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SS

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/11/2017 10:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:26:03PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels If this is accepted, all x86 hardware on which Fedora can run will support SSE2,

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2017 12:16 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: I still have my N270 netbook, but I guess even more people still have Z6xx-based devices. Still, they're over 7 years old at this point. The N270s are still supported by Windows 10. Furthermore: Linux (thus Fedora) has always one o

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2017 11:57 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 at 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Considering that SSE2 was introduced by Intel in 2001 and AMD caught up with it in 2003, I'd be +1 (with my FESCo hat on) to requiring SSE

Re: No i686 kernel: Can we require SSE2 for i686?

2017-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/11/2017 10:57 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 at 22:26, Florian Weimer wrote: I ran into this unannounced change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_Building_i686_Kernels I noticed this i

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

2017-07-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/03/2017 04:02 PM, Michal Schorm wrote: Nope. MariaDB is a drop-in replacement. In version 5.5. What you wrote is an API change => MariaDB is not a drop-in replacement for MySQL anymore. The "many ṕackages requiring changes" you mentioned furtherly manifest this. Ralf __

Re: [SONAME change] MySQL, MariaDB

2017-07-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/03/2017 03:12 PM, Michal Schorm wrote: Hello everybody! Since MariaDB 10.2 is finally stable and I resolved all issues that blocked it for Fedora, I'd like to propose an update for Rawhide. Current version of MariaDB: 10.1.24 Update planned to: 10.2.6 (or newer) *This change introduces

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 26 Candidate Beta-1.4 Available Now!

2017-06-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/01/2017 08:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/01/2017 06:28 AM, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: According to the schedule [1], Fedora 26 Candidate Beta-1.4 is now available for testing. Trying Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26_Beta-1.4.iso on an older i686-netbook fails with this

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 26 Candidate Beta-1.4 Available Now!

2017-06-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/01/2017 08:30 AM, Christian Dersch wrote: What is "an older i686-netbook"? It's a 2008's Medion Akoya E1210 (To Germans, aka "The Aldi-Netbook"), a rebranded variant of the MSI Wind U100 in a grub/BIOS-multiboot configuration: With Fedora 25: # cat /proc/cpuinfo model name : Inte

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 26 Candidate Beta-1.4 Available Now!

2017-05-31 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/01/2017 06:28 AM, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: According to the schedule [1], Fedora 26 Candidate Beta-1.4 is now available for testing. Trying Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26_Beta-1.4.iso on an older i686-netbook fails with this: ... [Failed] Failed to start Switch Root See 'sys

Re: Killing koji buildjobs

2017-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/28/2017 01:32 PM, Milan Crha wrote: On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 12:33 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: These 2 build jobs (launched by me) seem to be hanging and don't seem to be wanting to finish (or fail) for 3 days (for reasons unknown to me): Hi, it looks like it got stuck af

Re: Killing koji buildjobs

2017-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/28/2017 12:48 PM, Dan Horák wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:33:11 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: Hi, Is there a way to kill hanging koji-buildjobs? These 2 build jobs (launched by me) seem to be hanging and don't seem to be wanting to finish (or fail) for 3 days (for reasons unknown

Killing koji buildjobs

2017-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Is there a way to kill hanging koji-buildjobs? These 2 build jobs (launched by me) seem to be hanging and don't seem to be wanting to finish (or fail) for 3 days (for reasons unknown to me): - A f27 real-build: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=883086 - A f26 scratch

Re: how to handle source code from github

2017-04-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/23/2017 06:40 PM, Globe Trotter wrote: Thanks! Would you know how to make upstream provide the tarball? Is it something as simple as creating a tarball and dumping it to git? github creates them on demand. Ralf ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/29/2017 02:26 PM, Nikolai Kondrashov wrote: I would say using env in the shebang line is useful. Particularly for portability. As a developer, I wouldn't like removing it from my programs. FPC repeated discussed this and we decided to ban env, years ago. Moreover, if your PATH is compro

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/25/2017 01:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much of a big deal? And vice-versa? Well, I don't want to get the EPEL bugs assigne

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