Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 11:40:40AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 04. 19 11:35, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 06:44:14PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>PyMca orphan 4 weeks > >>ago > >Claimed in

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 04. 19 11:35, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 06:44:14PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: PyMca orphan 4 weeks ago Claimed in https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8318. See also https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/PyMca

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 06:44:14PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > PyMca orphan 4 weeks ago Claimed in https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8318. Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-30 Thread Jan Staněk
On 29. 04. 19 18:44, Miro Hrončok wrote: > jstanek: nodejs-formatio, nodejs-sinon, nodejs-lolex, nodejs-util, > nodejs-samsam Claimed: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8317 -- Jan Staněk Associate Software Engineer, Core Services Red Hat Czech jsta...@redhat.com IM: jstanek signature.asc

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-29 Thread Rex Dieter
Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they ... > Request package ownership via releng ticket: > https://pagure.io/releng/issues > lightdm-gtk cwickert, dbenoit, orphan, 3 weeks https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8315 -- Rex

Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages need new maintainers (lot of nodejs deps will be retired next week)

2019-04-29 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-29 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 11:47 Jan Staněk wrote: > On 27. 04. 19 10:51, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Zuzka, Jan, I've seen you requested soem nodejs packages recently. Would > > you be able to take some more? > > If needed to keep them from orphaning, yes; but I cannot promise any > really active

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-29 Thread Jan Staněk
On 27. 04. 19 10:51, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Zuzka, Jan, I've seen you requested soem nodejs packages recently. Would > you be able to take some more? If needed to keep them from orphaning, yes; but I cannot promise any really active maintenance. The best I can promise is that I will *try* to keep

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 04. 19 9:29, Jan De Luyck wrote: What's the status of those next to my name that my package notepadqq is depending on? (namely nodejs-archiver-utils, nodejs-crc32-stream, nodejs-compress-commons, nodejs-tar-stream, nodejs-archiver, nodejs-zip-stream) (I have little time at the moment

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-27 Thread Jan De Luyck
What's the status of those next to my name that my package notepadqq is depending on? (namely nodejs-archiver-utils, nodejs-crc32-stream, nodejs-compress-commons, nodejs-tar-stream, nodejs-archiver, nodejs-zip-stream) (I have little time at the moment to keep track of packages - just wondering,

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-26 Thread Jan Staněk
On 26. 04. 19 16:24, Zuzana Svetlikova wrote: > I'll take them. Already mine (announced in the js-jquery orphaning thread) ;) -- Jan Staněk Associate Software Engineer, Core Services Red Hat Czech jsta...@redhat.com IM: jstanek signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-26 Thread Zuzana Svetlikova
I'll take them. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:56 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 15. 04. 19 18:52, Christopher wrote: > > If nobody picks up the ones by my name (nodejs-path-exists, > > nodejs-bluebird, nodejs-grunt-known-options), then I will probably > > have to orphan js-jquery, because it probably

Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-23 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-23 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 04. 19 18:52, Christopher wrote: If nobody picks up the ones by my name (nodejs-path-exists, nodejs-bluebird, nodejs-grunt-known-options), then I will probably have to orphan js-jquery, because it probably needs those for its build (I can't think of any other reason my name would be

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-04-15 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:06 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman >> wrote: >> >> >> >> * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : >> >>> >> >>> I

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-04-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman > wrote: > >> > >> * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > >>> > >>> I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages > >> > >>

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-04-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. And who is guilty for this? I

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-15 Thread Christopher
If nobody picks up the ones by my name (nodejs-path-exists, nodejs-bluebird, nodejs-grunt-known-options), then I will probably have to orphan js-jquery, because it probably needs those for its build (I can't think of any other reason my name would be listed next to those). On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at

Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-15 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:30:27 +0200 Miro Hrončok wrote: astyleorphan 0 weeks ago codeblocksorphan, sharkcz 0 weeks ago I'll take over these - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8283 Dan

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15. 04. 19 v 13:30 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > rubygem-capybara  mmorsi, orphan, ruby-    0 > weeks ago >   packagers-sig > rubygem-childprocess  ggillies, mmorsi, orphan,    0 > weeks ago >  

Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-09 Thread Raphael Groner
> Sorry, but I'm afraid I don't quite get this. Could you please rephrase? > The script uses source repos to fetch build-dependencies. Thanks. That answers my question. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-08 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 19:20 Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for > sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-08 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 09. 04. 19 0:03, Raphael Groner wrote: Hopefully, it's sufficient to rebuild in rawhide only. It is. No idea why the original try to unbundle failed and your script cares about other as just looking into really generated dependencies of binary rpm instead of analysis done in spec file.

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-08 Thread Raphael Groner
Hi Miro, volumeicon should be fixed in rawhide. It turns out that the BuildRequires line wasn't needed at all in volumeicon.spec because upstream bundles partly its own copy of the needed functions with code obviously copied from keybinder. Therefore I dropped this BR and added a new Provides

Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-08 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-08 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-02 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 02. 04. 19 8:41, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Miro, > > Could you please also send a list of retired packages after you pull the > trigger? The information was included in my e-mail (I guess a bit hidden): >> Packages already retired today: >>SimplyHTML aether-connector-okhttp antlr3

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-02 Thread Vít Ondruch
Miro, Could you please also send a list of retired packages after you pull the trigger? Thx Vít Dne 01. 04. 19 v 23:17 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > for sure

Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-04-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-27 Thread Richard Shaw
I considered taking xcdroast but it needs to be patched to work with wodim because it's only designed to be used with real cdrecord... Probably best just to retire it. There are several other lightweight graphical CD/DVD writer tools. Thanks, Richard

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2019-03-27 at 18:48 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 27. 03. 19 18:18, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > sergiomb: nodejs-array-union > > > > why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me > > thescript have a bug ... > >

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 03. 19 18:18, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: sergiomb: nodejs-array-union why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me thescript have a bug ... What bug? Read the full report and grep your FAS name, follow the crumbs:

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > sergiomb: nodejs-array-union why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me thescript have a bug ... Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list --

ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

2019-03-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-19 Thread Stelian Iancu
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > > > > I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages > > Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. > I think the bigger question here is what is going to happen with the

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > > I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2019-03-18 at 19:06 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:45:49 +, you wrote: > > > > > After thinking , my suggestion is do not retire any java package. > > > > These package should be take by java sig . > > That's nice, who exactly is this Java sig you have

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 18. 03. 19 22:58, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: The actual effect of this is that I'm going to disable Java bindings for all the affected packages. Java loses, Fedora loses. Everybody looses :( -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-18 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:45:49 +, you wrote: > >After thinking , my suggestion is do not retire any java package. > >These package should be take by java sig . That's nice, who exactly is this Java sig you have kindly decided should take on this significant undertaking? My (limited)

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:34:23AM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: > On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > > > Yes, that's

[Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
ct.org, Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:55:11 +0100 The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know fo

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 05:35, Jakub Jelen wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > > > Yes, that's what we

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-18 Thread Jakub Jelen
On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > Yes, that's what we were warned about months ago. > > Don't think so. > > Nothing has

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: >* Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : >> Is Java being dropped from the distro? > >Yes, that's what we were warned about months ago. Don't think so. Nothing has been said about dropping Java, and if anything the OpenJDK packagers have been

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > These are very important packages. What do we have to do here? I'm going to repeat this until it sinks in... If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the distribution, you need to step up and ask for

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:40:00PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, > >> xmvn, plexus-utils > > > > I'm unclear what if anything I

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, >> xmvn, plexus-utils > > I'm unclear what if anything I could do (apart from maintaining loads > of Java packages which isn't going to

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, > xmvn, plexus-utils I'm unclear what if anything I could do (apart from maintaining loads of Java packages which isn't going to happen). Is the email saying that

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 06:53, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > You can build Java apps as modules, yes. > If we remove the mentioned packages from rawhide, it will be the only way to > build Java packages. How are the Java applications that come with C (JNI) extensions handled in the modules model? How do

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 13. 03. 19 18:05, Christopher wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Randy Barlow wrote: On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost all of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build anything".

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:23 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:21 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Can you give us a minimal set of packages that is required to make sure > > libreoffice etc. aren't caught up in the mass retirement? > > The minimal package set is the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: > > Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost > > all > > of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build > > anything". > > How much worse could it

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: > Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost > all > of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build > anything". > How much worse could it get than that? Fair. I don't think we anticipated the large

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski: > > >> As far as I understand it, under the Koji model, one of the tags wins, > >> and which one determines whether you get the Python 2 subpackage or the > >> Python 3 subpackage. You cannot get both. You will need

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mikolaj Izdebski: >> As far as I understand it, under the Koji model, one of the tags wins, >> and which one determines whether you get the Python 2 subpackage or the >> Python 3 subpackage. You cannot get both. You will need two or more >> buildroots for that. > > That used to be the case,

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:59 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> Alternative sum up: > >> * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use > >> modular repos. > > > > Incorrect. Koji (the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mikolaj Izdebski: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> Alternative sum up: >> * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use >> modular repos. > > Incorrect. Koji (the software) *can* use modular repos. I know of more > than one installation of

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:21 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Can you give us a minimal set of packages that is required to make sure > libreoffice etc. aren't caught up in the mass retirement? The minimal package set is the contents of javapackages-tools module, stream 201801. There are about 185

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 3/13/19 9:45 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Hans de Goede [13/03/2019 08:51] : A solution for this needs to be found and be in place *before* dropping these packages not the otherway around. We've known the solution for months, now. If you (this is the generic you, not you

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Jakub Jelen
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 21:24 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM Jakub Jelen > wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > > Hmm, > > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Hans de Goede [13/03/2019 08:51] : > > A solution for this needs to be found and be in place *before* dropping > these packages not the otherway around. We've known the solution for months, now. If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 12-03-19 11:38, Miro Hrončok wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
t; >> > non-event for everyone concerned except you. Instead of helping with > >> > that (or just waiting), you are about to cause the retirement of > quite a > >> > few packages whose maintainers want nothing to do with Modularity. > >> > That's not e

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
g with > that (or just waiting), you are about to cause the retirement of quite a > few packages whose maintainers want nothing to do with Modularity. > That's not excellent. I am not forcing anyone to do anything. If I followed your thinking then I colud say that by not adopting orphaned pa

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
-event for everyone concerned except you. Instead of helping with > > that (or just waiting), you are about to cause the retirement of quite a > > few packages whose maintainers want nothing to do with Modularity. > > That's not excellent. > > I am not forcing anyone to do

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:03 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > As Miro said in another post, it's not that FESCo doesn't want to use > modules in Koji, it's that we want to make sure that the packager > experience is as good as it was pre-modularity, and in particular that > packagers can build locally as

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 22:18 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > It's Fedora developers (represented by > elected body of FESCo) that don't want to use modules in Fedoras' > Koji > installation. As Miro said in another post, it's not that FESCo doesn't want to use modules in Koji, it's that we want

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12. 03. 19 22:11, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: I hope FESCo will finally realize how important it is to allow building any package against modules and change the policy, allowing modules to be used as build dependencies for non-modular packages. Oh we do realize. Especially since everything will

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
ose maintainers want nothing to do with Modularity. > That's not excellent. I am not forcing anyone to do anything. If I followed your thinking then I colud say that by not adopting orphaned packages you are forcing others to do the same things you accuse me of forcing people to. &

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Alternative sum up: > * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use > modular repos. Incorrect. Koji (the software) *can* use modular repos. I know of more than one installation of Koji that successfully builds

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:20 PM Christopher wrote: > Addendum: some of us part-time packagers, which depended on these > packages to build our own Java packages don't know how to convert to > modular packaging. I'm still trying to learn in my spare time, but I > don't know where to look and have

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Hmm, > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/java-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/MQMRQVENBLDRS67WLNQ7EOCMSDI5WIET/ > > seems that people had a lot of time to

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 12. 03. 19 v 12:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > > didn't know how to ask for help > > * Now it's

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 12. 03. 19 v 12:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > didn't know how to ask for help > * Now it's too late because he orphaned nearly 1700 packages to force >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 12:16 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Maybe, but it will cause the removal of other packages that depend on > their regular (non-modular) builds. You are forcing the hands of > their > maintainers before the infrastructure to make modular packages > available >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Jakub Jelen
On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:36 PM Neal Gompa > wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov < > > akurt...@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Neal Gompa
not orphan that many packages. I orphaned about 250 packages only. > Sorry, you're right, it affects nearly that many though. > It is not too late for anything. Orphaned packages can still be > adopted. That's the whole point of this thread. > > > We could have avoided the bad ending if at

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
he orphaned nearly 1700 packages to force > modularization I did not orphan that many packages. I orphaned about 250 packages only. It is not too late for anything. Orphaned packages can still be adopted. That's the whole point of this thread. > We could have avoided the bad endi

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > >> >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: >> > > >> > > Is there already a way

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or > > we will really remove all these package from Fedora? > > Most of Java packages listed in this thread

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or > we will really remove all these package from Fedora? Most of Java packages listed in this thread are already packaged as modules. Their retirement in rawhide won't

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12. 03. 19 11:48, Jakub Jelen wrote: Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or we will really remove all these package from Fedora? You can build Java apps as modules, yes. If we remove the mentioned packages from rawhide, it will be the only way to build Java

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Jakub Jelen
Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or we will really remove all these package from Fedora? I am really not interested in maintaining a whole java frameworks stack, but some guidance (not these weekly emails) from java maintainers team that took this decision would

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-12 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-28 Thread François Cami
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:03 PM Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > On to, 28 helmi 2019, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 06:11, Ingo Hoffmann wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> First time here and concerned Java citizen. Who or how can I contact > >> regarding the maven package

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-28 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 28 helmi 2019, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 06:11, Ingo Hoffmann wrote: Hi, First time here and concerned Java citizen. Who or how can I contact regarding the maven package maintenance? I want to either maintain or co-maintain it if there's someone already

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 06:11, Ingo Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > First time here and concerned Java citizen. Who or how can I contact > regarding the maven package maintenance? I want to either maintain or > co-maintain it if there's someone already doing it. > Note there are 2 different

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired

2019-02-28 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:00 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > To try and make this clearer: The script is looking for chains of > orphans. If X is orphaned and your package currently (build)requires > it.. your package will be affected when it gets dropped. Either you > have to help someone take

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired

2019-02-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 14:35, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 27. 02. 19 15:34, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > On lundi 25 février 2019 21:49:32 CET you wrote: > >> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > >> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If

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